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Jobs you're too good for....

Smunkeeville
22-01-2009, 00:01
What are they?

Do you treat people doing those jobs as they are less than you? Are they?
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 00:05
Well considering that the economy is basically in the E.R. I don't think any job should be below anyone to do. Hell I applied for jobs at Mc. Donald and Wal-Mart.
Exilia and Colonies
22-01-2009, 00:06
Full Time ones. I got learning to do.
Saige Dragon
22-01-2009, 00:08
Office jobs and stuff. Where I'd have to wear a tie to work and tuck my shirt in.

EDIT: Any of the 9 to 5 bullshit really.
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 00:11
Office jobs and stuff. Where I'd have to wear a tie to work and tuck my shirt in.

EDIT: Any of the 9 to 5 bullshit really.

It's actually 8 to 5 now.
Sdaeriji
22-01-2009, 00:14
Fast food. I've worked as a janitor at a high school, but I will not do fast food.
Saige Dragon
22-01-2009, 00:15
Fast food. I've worked as a janitor at a high school, but I will not do fast food.

That to. I won't do fast food or any of that crap.
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 00:16
That to. I won't do fast food or any of that crap.

So umm...what will you do?
Katganistan
22-01-2009, 00:18
I don't think I'd enjoy being the poor sap who has to clean the shit out of zoo habitats. But no, I don't look down on them. They do a job most people can't/won't do, and I don't have to worry about being eaten alive by my students if they come into my classroom unexpectedly.
Intestinal fluids
22-01-2009, 00:19
All of them, im happily retired.
Saige Dragon
22-01-2009, 00:21
So umm...what will you do?

From the looks of things, probably go back to driving a truck.
VirginiaCooper
22-01-2009, 00:21
Anything that Mike Rowe has done. I'd sure do his job though!
Gauntleted Fist
22-01-2009, 00:27
I'm not "too good" for anything. I'd do anything Mike Rowe has done.

Didn't see your post, VC. :p
Katganistan
22-01-2009, 00:30
Mike Rowe ROCKS. Love his voice, love how he looks, love his willingness to do ANYTHING.

I swear, he's been crapped on by every domesticated critter going. ;)
Sarkhaan
22-01-2009, 00:32
Generally, there's little I would absolutly flat out refuse to do. I've done some jobs many refuse to do (ditch digging, for example) as volunteer work
Maineiacs
22-01-2009, 00:32
I would only do jobs that are commonly given to the disabled such as stock boy, Wal-Mart greeter, etc. if forced by extreme circumstance. I don't really look down at the people who do those jobs, but I didn't get a degree to do a job I could have gotten without even finishing High School. I'd be bored out of my mind, and consider it a personal failure if I had to take such a job.
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 00:36
I would only do jobs that are commonly given to the disabled such as stock boy, Wal-Mart greeter, etc. if forced by extreme circumstance. I don't really look down at the people who do those jobs, but I didn't get a degree to do a job I could have gotten without even finishing High School. I'd be bored out of my mind, and consider it a personal failure if I had to take such a job.

Yea, but there's not many people hiring right now. I got a B.A. myself, and I'm applying at jobs that I also could've gotten out of H.S. A job is a job, and sometimes you need to take a job in order to pay the bills, even if you do think taking it would be a "personal failure".
Londim
22-01-2009, 00:36
Hmm I hated working in a supermarket but if current trends continue then it look likes I'm going back there. I don't look down on people who work in supermarkets but the amount of customers I encountered who treated me and my ex coworkers like crap was almost unbelievable.
Maineiacs
22-01-2009, 00:38
Yea, but there's not many people hiring right now. I got a B.A. myself, and I'm applying at jobs that I also could've gotten out of H.S. A job is a job, and sometimes you need to take a job in order to pay the bills, even if you do think taking it would be a "personal failure".

Thus the conundrum. My temporary solution is to try to get into grad school. I'm also hampered in the job search by the fact that there are jobs I cannot phyiscally do.
One-O-One
22-01-2009, 00:39
Yea, but there's not many people hiring right now. I got a B.A. myself, and I'm applying at jobs that I also could've gotten out of H.S. A job is a job, and sometimes you need to take a job in order to pay the bills, even if you do think taking it would be a "personal failure".

Lol. American depression fail.
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 00:40
Lol. American depression fail.

Which will soon be a Global Depression. Which is also phail. :(
Call to power
22-01-2009, 00:41
used to look down on bar staff then I had to work as one
used to look down on Infantry then I had to work as one
used to look down on call centre staff then I had to work as one
used to look down on telemarketers then I had to work as one
used to look down on Nursery teachers then I had to work as one
used to look down on factory workers now I currently work in a factory

currently I'm looking down on millionaire playboys :)

Well considering that the economy is basically in the E.R. I don't think any job should be below anyone to do. Hell I applied for jobs at Mc. Donald and Wal-Mart.

wilgrove the Nursery assistant!

Office jobs and stuff. Where I'd have to wear a tie to work and tuck my shirt in.

EDIT: Any of the 9 to 5 bullshit really.

*looks down on the peasant*

I would only do jobs that are commonly given to the disabled such as stock boy, Wal-Mart greeter, etc. if forced by extreme circumstance. I don't really look down at the people who do those jobs, but I didn't get a degree to do a job I could have gotten without even finishing High School. I'd be bored out of my mind, and consider it a personal failure if I had to take such a job.

and they wonder why everyone hates students...
Katganistan
22-01-2009, 00:44
Hmm I hated working in a supermarket but if current trends continue then it look likes I'm going back there. I don't look down on people who work in supermarkets but the amount of customers I encountered who treated me and my ex coworkers like crap was almost unbelievable.
People tend to be nicer to retail sales people if they've ever had to do the job themselves. I was a cashier at Macy's for eight months till I got an office job -- consequently I try to be patient and pleasant with salespeople or service people.
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 00:45
wilgrove the Nursery assistant!

Where I have a permanent case of Postpartum depression :D

Lotsa dead babies....
Kryozerkia
22-01-2009, 00:45
There are some jobs I find are "below" some people, not because of any elitist reason but because of education. One has to dumb down their credentials for certain jobs in tough times because a employer may overlook a resume if you appear to be over qualified.

As for "looking down", I don't if the person is hard working. Yes, I probably wouldn't want their job, but if they choose to do it then good for them. If the person is a slacker and has a general disregard for the job and any potential customers or clients they have to serve, then yes, I would look down on them for not being able to do their job.
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 00:47
People tend to be nicer to retail sales people if they've ever had to do the job themselves. I was a cashier at Macy's for eight months till I got an office job -- consequently I try to be patient and pleasant with salespeople or service people.

I actually am waiting to hear from a book store.

Oh wow...with my umm demeanor, that'd probably be the worse job for me ever.

"Well you know what, I don't care if your babies are in the car and they're burning up, I'm trying to ring up your book on "Postpartum depression" so if you can just give me a fucking minute..."
Londim
22-01-2009, 00:47
People tend to be nicer to retail sales people if they've ever had to do the job themselves. I was a cashier at Macy's for eight months till I got an office job -- consequently I try to be patient and pleasant with salespeople or service people.

The worst was being blamed for things you could not control like:

The customer forgetting to pick something up, somehow my fault.
When waiting for a supervisor to get the customer something and yet it was the cashiers fault the supervisor was taking a bit too long.
Or the generally angry customers.
Or those who believe all cashiers to be stupid.

The nice customers were rare and they made my day.
United Dependencies
22-01-2009, 00:48
Well considering that the economy is basically in the E.R. I don't think any job should be below anyone to do. Hell I applied for jobs at Mc. Donald and Wal-Mart.

I've always been raised to believe that there was no job that I was to good for. I think that is part of the problem with unemployment being so high now.
Call to power
22-01-2009, 00:49
Where I have a permanent case of Postpartum depression :D

Lotsa dead babies....

O_o

...wilgrove the care assistant!

If the person is a slacker and has a general disregard for the job and any potential customers or clients they have to serve, then yes, I would look down on them for not being able to do their job.

it must get lonely up there >.>
Kryozerkia
22-01-2009, 01:07
it must get lonely up there >.>

What? Because I don't like slackers? :tongue:
United Anacreon
22-01-2009, 01:11
President of Burkina Faso, need I say more?
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 01:13
President of Burkina Faso, need I say more?

Yes you do.
United Anacreon
22-01-2009, 01:15
Yes you do.

No, not I don't. *drinks whiskey while sobbing*
Deefiki Ahno States
22-01-2009, 01:35
I don't know about too good for me to do, but I do look down on the following:

Lawyer--Arrogant know-it-alls focused on billable hours, their cut of the final judgment and their own self aggrandizement.

Insurance Claims Adjuster -- the "sorry for your devastating loss, now how little can we pay you?" people

Whatever it is that Paris Hilton does -- for giving a bad name to porno actresses everywhere
Anti-Social Darwinism
22-01-2009, 01:38
There are a lot of jobs I wouldn't do - not because I'm too good, but because I'm too lazy, too squeamish, too scared.

And Kat, are you absolutely certain that your students won't eat you alive? Teacher (below college level) is one job I wouldn't do, just because the kids these days are so undisciplined. It takes a special breed of Kat to do it.
Kryozerkia
22-01-2009, 01:47
Lawyer--Arrogant know-it-alls focused on billable hours, their cut of the final judgment and their own self aggrandizement.

Such a short sighted, and a brutal assessment of the profession. Yes there are a few bad apples, but it doesn't sully the entire profession.

"Billable hours" refers to the amount of time spent on the case, and billable hours doesn't just apply to the lawyer, it also applies to his/her law clerk who does a large amount of the paperwork that will eventually be filed with the court. A strong case just doesn't fall out of thin air; it takes hours of preparation and it's not just of the lawyer's time, it's also of the law clerk's time. The "cut" of the final judgement only exist if the lawyer is working on a contingency basis, though they may request a small retainer fee in order to cover the disbursement fees. So, if a lawyer works on a contingency basis, it means he/she only gets paid if the action is successful, and it's a percentage. So, if the case loses, you don't owe your lawyer anything, though you may incur partial or substantial indemnity costs.

And no, I'm not a lawyer; I'm studying to be a law clerk and your narrow assessment I dare say is quite unfounded in many respects. Not all lawyers charge through the nose.

There are other costs related to the operation of the firm, such as the salary of those working for the firm, since a lawyer may employ many people, especially if it's a larger firm; i.e.: receptionists, law clerks. Aside from salary there is also the cost of maintenance and utilities; the money to pay for that doesn't come out of thin air. There are also legal fees that have to be paid to the court.

Sure some lawyers work quid pro quo, but it doesn't mean there aren't any who aren't pro bono.
Khadgar
22-01-2009, 01:54
I don't think I'd enjoy being the poor sap who has to clean the shit out of zoo habitats. But no, I don't look down on them. They do a job most people can't/won't do, and I don't have to worry about being eaten alive by my students if they come into my classroom unexpectedly.

Hehe, I used to work sanitation at a turkey plant. It's worse than poo cleanup.
The blessed Chris
22-01-2009, 01:54
Honestly, there are any number of jobs I believe my education, intelligence and qualifications render "below me" as a career. At present, given that I work only in academic holidays to supplement or replace my student loan, I'm prepared to do nigh on anything; last summer I worked in a supermarket, as a chocolateer (for the small form the supplies parliament), whilst I worked on a bar this year at university until I displocated my knee cap.

As a career, I wouldn't be fulfilling my ambitions, potential, or the investment of my parents and teachers, in accepting anything other than best. Whether that corresponds to arrogance, I wouldn't guess at.
One-O-One
22-01-2009, 02:03
All of them!

That's why I'm unemployed.
Ashmoria
22-01-2009, 02:06
i sure would hate to be in a position where i needed a job and the only one i could get was chambermaid in a local motel.

no i dont look down on anyone who does an honest days work.
Truly Blessed
22-01-2009, 02:12
Anything illegal

Anything in the porn industry or border legal escort services, massage parlors. For the record not the real medically helpful one those other ones at the back of the NY Post. Not that I am qualified or anything

I prefer job where you actually build things or help people. I would not look down on anyone in those jobs. Even fast food is or can be a stepping stone to somewhere better.
Lord Tothe
22-01-2009, 02:14
Well, I'm a draftsman (White collar, I guess), but I have worked at a theme park, a greenhouse wholesaler, and a grocery store deli. Manual labor and service sector/retail are not dishonorable. The only sort of job I wouldn't want to do would be something along the lines of plumbing. My gag reflex wouldn't allow me to do some of those jobs.
Suvyamarah
22-01-2009, 02:25
As someone who has hasn't had a steady job in a year and can't find anything at all that I could physically do (which leaves out heavy lifting and such) I'd say no job is too good for me. Unfortunately, nobody will even give me the crappy ones. This week I've been turned down for 3 telemarketing jobs, grocery store clerk, convenience store clerk, scrap yard worker, and a couple others. And it's only Wednesday. Been like this for the last year. Going to lose my house and be homeless in a couple weeks. So, no, I'd have to say I'm not too good for any job.
Yootopia
22-01-2009, 02:41
All of them, which is why I'm a student :)
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 02:42
No, not I don't. *drinks whiskey while sobbing*

Yay I made someone cry! :D
Neo Art
22-01-2009, 02:45
Such a short sighted, and a brutal assessment of the profession. Yes there are a few bad apples, but it doesn't sully the entire profession.

"Billable hours" refers to the amount of time spent on the case, and billable hours doesn't just apply to the lawyer, it also applies to his/her law clerk who does a large amount of the paperwork that will eventually be filed with the court. A strong case just doesn't fall out of thin air; it takes hours of preparation and it's not just of the lawyer's time, it's also of the law clerk's time. The "cut" of the final judgement only exist if the lawyer is working on a contingency basis, though they may request a small retainer fee in order to cover the disbursement fees. So, if a lawyer works on a contingency basis, it means he/she only gets paid if the action is successful, and it's a percentage. So, if the case loses, you don't owe your lawyer anything, though you may incur partial or substantial indemnity costs.

And no, I'm not a lawyer; I'm studying to be a law clerk and your narrow assessment I dare say is quite unfounded in many respects. Not all lawyers charge through the nose.

There are other costs related to the operation of the firm, such as the salary of those working for the firm, since a lawyer may employ many people, especially if it's a larger firm; i.e.: receptionists, law clerks. Aside from salary there is also the cost of maintenance and utilities; the money to pay for that doesn't come out of thin air. There are also legal fees that have to be paid to the court.

Sure some lawyers work quid pro quo, but it doesn't mean there aren't any who aren't pro bono.

Don't worry, everybody hates lawyers, until they need one.
Dondolastan
22-01-2009, 02:46
Yay I made someone cry! :D

Making people cry is NOT a job I'm too good for... Heheheh.
Deefiki Ahno States
22-01-2009, 02:46
Such a short sighted, and a brutal assessment of the profession. Yes there are a few bad apples, but it doesn't sully the entire profession.

Not just a few. Turn on a TV lately? At least in the states its hard to channel surf without coming across at least one "Have you been hurt, bitten by a dog, or inadvertently sniffed glue without a warning label? Call 1-800-ILL SU 4 U"

The U.S. tops the world with 1 lawyer for every 265 people and its mainly due to the fact that they make tons of money by milking a bad situation. IMO it also has let to the marketability of victim hood and the decline of personal responsibility.

There are other costs related to the operation of the firm, such as the salary of those working for the firm, since a lawyer may employ many people, especially if it's a larger firm; i.e.: receptionists, law clerks. Aside from salary there is also the cost of maintenance and utilities; the money to pay for that doesn't come out of thin air. There are also legal fees that have to be paid to the court.


Every business has similar operational costs but people still seem to manage to charge based on true value. My practical experience with attorney's has shown me that even a 1 minute phone call costs .25 hours at $250- 400/hr. The same lawyer even tried to charge me for donuts supplied at a deposition. I would be out of business if I ripped off my clients like that, but since a lawyer's client is usually in desperate need of their services, they have little choice.

I will concede that I should have specified Civil Trial Lawyers and that I was too broad initially. I guess it would be akin to labeling all doctors based on what plastic surgeons do.
Wilgrove
22-01-2009, 02:46
Making people cry is NOT a job I'm too good for... Heheheh.

Well it's perfect for me...which is why the malls ban me from being Santa. :(
Poliwanacraca
22-01-2009, 02:50
I don't know that there is any job I'm "too good for." There are certainly jobs that I'd really prefer not to do because I would absolutely hate them - for example, flipping burgers at McDonalds or scrubbing toilets at...anywhere. I definitely don't look down on people working crappy jobs, given that I can't even get hired at most of those crappy jobs of late.
Truly Blessed
22-01-2009, 02:51
As someone who has hasn't had a steady job in a year and can't find anything at all that I could physically do (which leaves out heavy lifting and such) I'd say no job is too good for me. Unfortunately, nobody will even give me the crappy ones. This week I've been turned down for 3 telemarketing jobs, grocery store clerk, convenience store clerk, scrap yard worker, and a couple others. And it's only Wednesday. Been like this for the last year. Going to lose my house and be homeless in a couple weeks. So, no, I'd have to say I'm not too good for any job.

For what it is worth hang in there it will turn around. Best of luck. Walk into the next one like you own the place and they would be lucky to have you. Walk into the next one like "You are the Man". Channel it, picture it in your head, for example you are your favorite superhero for the day. For a day bullets bounce off of you. It works.
Deefiki Ahno States
22-01-2009, 02:52
Don't worry, everybody hates lawyers, until they need one.

Actually, people only hate lawyers after they've needed one.

Except for the guy that gets me out of my speeding tickets. That guy is awesome.;)
Dondolastan
22-01-2009, 02:52
Well it's perfect for me...which is why the malls ban me from being Santa. :(

Wanna see my "R. Lee Ermy as Santa" impression?
Nova Magna Germania
22-01-2009, 03:12
What are they?

Do you treat people doing those jobs as they are less than you? Are they?

None.
Jenrak
22-01-2009, 03:15
None.

I second this opinion.
Dondolastan
22-01-2009, 03:17
None.

I can't think of anything either.
Amor Pulchritudo
22-01-2009, 03:33
I don't think of it as a matter of being "too good" on a socio-economic or class scale. If I had to support myself and my family, I would do almost any job. However, that's only in a dire financial situation. In an ideal world I'd prefer a job that I was qualified for, I enjoy and is challenging. In that sense, I'd consider myself too "good" for jobs such as cleaning, 9-5 office work etc. But "good" isn't really the right word. It's more so that I'd be wasting my education, skill and passion.

& No, I don't look down on people who work certain jobs such as flipping burgers, cleaning toilets or even prostitutes. I do, however, look down on people who have no work ethic. I look down on people who work halfheartedly and don't strive for anything better. If you're the best damn burger flipper, you're better - in my mind - than that jerk of an accountant who barely works but is on 100 grand a year.
Kryozerkia
22-01-2009, 03:35
Not just a few. Turn on a TV lately? At least in the states its hard to channel surf without coming across at least one "Have you been hurt, bitten by a dog, or inadvertently sniffed glue without a warning label? Call 1-800-ILL SU 4 U"

The U.S. tops the world with 1 lawyer for every 265 people and its mainly due to the fact that they make tons of money by milking a bad situation. IMO it also has let to the marketability of victim hood and the decline of personal responsibility.

Firstly, I haven't turned on a TV in over a year and quite some time. Secondly, I never watch American TV if I ever do, and thirdly, yes unlike the US, in Canada, such advertising is not permitted by a code of conduct that binds all lawyers.

Now then, that still doesn't mean that it's a predominant thing. Those with the means to will; not are all the scavengers of misery your words are painting them as.

Also, people milk a bad situation because the media paints it as glamorous and profitable.

Every business has similar operational costs but people still seem to manage to charge based on true value. My practical experience with attorney's has shown me that even a 1 minute phone call costs .25 hours at $250- 400/hr. The same lawyer even tried to charge me for donuts supplied at a deposition. I would be out of business if I ripped off my clients like that, but since a lawyer's client is usually in desperate need of their services, they have little choice.

Most lawyers are overwhelmed so they charge for that time in order to ensure that the time is spent productively. As for the charge for the doughnuts, I wouldn't know how to reply to that but that doesn't appear to be a typical business expense that can be added to the bill.

So you had a bad lawyer. That's why you don't pull some random name out of a phone book.

And yes, 250-400 an hour seems about right. I won't deny that it's a lot.

I will concede that I should have specified Civil Trial Lawyers and that I was too broad initially. I guess it would be akin to labeling all doctors based on what plastic surgeons do.

And even then that's still painting a group with a tar brush. Civil Litigation is a messy and convoluted process. Yes there is a lot involved but the amount of paperwork, research, documentation and discovery that goes on would baffle the average person, and that is just the highly condensed version. There is more to civil litigation than just saying, "I'm suing the pants off you", going to court and winning.

What you seem to imply is that there is little time spent on much else other than finding someone desperate, taking their case and digging into the deepest pockets of whoever the defendant is.
Nova Magna Germania
22-01-2009, 03:37
I second this opinion.

I can't think of anything either.

Wait, I found 1. Dictator. Theres simply no challenge and fun when everyones obeying u w/o questioning.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
22-01-2009, 03:38
Don't worry, everybody hates lawyers, until they need one.
They still hate you, hence all the complaints about fees. Even when someone needs a lawyer, it is generally (50%+) to counter someone else's lawyer, so you people are like nuclear weapons in that the world would be much better off if no one felt the need to throw lawyers across the Atlantic Ocean.
And, yeah, I look down on lawyers. I'm too good for that, because I've got a soul, or at least a piece of clay that sort of resembles a soul when twisted in loops and such. Right now it resembles a spermatozoa, but that's 'cuz it was supposed to be a mermaid, then I got distracted.
There are a few other jobs I'd never do, fortunately, they're not the sort of jobs you can get without a lot of asskissing and wasted youth, so my chances of accidentally becoming management, or whatever, are rather minimal.
Dondolastan
22-01-2009, 03:38
Wait, I found 1. Dictator. Theres simply no challenge and fun when everyones obeying u w/o questioning.

I think I could do some real good with the position. It's resplonsablility.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
22-01-2009, 03:40
Also, as someone who has used public restrooms, I have no end of respect for those in the janitorial field. My hat is off to you fine gentlemen and gentlewomen and child-slave-laborers.
Christmahanikwanzikah
22-01-2009, 03:53
Fast food/janitorial.
Dondolastan
22-01-2009, 03:55
Fast food/janitorial.

I bet you don't like bus drivers, either. Jeez.
Smunkeeville
22-01-2009, 03:58
There are some jobs I find are "below" some people, not because of any elitist reason but because of education.
Isn't that an elitist reason though?
Carrick Anam
22-01-2009, 04:00
I could never be a nurse, they take such slack from doctors and often they know about as much as the doctors do and have a better bedside manner, they get paid less and they have to clean up every bodily secretion known to man. I admire nurses but could NEVER be one
the other job I will never do is one I saw on Dirty Jobs where he was the guy who held the condom for a horse to stud into, so basically his job was horse wanker? NO thank you!
Jenrak
22-01-2009, 04:03
I bet you don't like bus drivers, either. Jeez.

I would have no problem sitting on my ass and drive a bus all day. Possibly give people dirty stares for not having passes or enough change.
South Lorenya
22-01-2009, 04:05
I will not do anything based on physical labor. I do, however, respect those who do those jobs (with some exceptions, such as people who smuggle bags of sand by hand).
Sarzonia
22-01-2009, 04:27
At this point, none are too good for me.

And I usually try to treat people the way I think they'd want to be treated no matter what their station is in life.
Marrakech II
22-01-2009, 04:47
It all has to do with circumstance really. My current situation I don't really have to worry and can choose what I do to support my family. If I had to I could probably do many jobs. As for looking down on people. I don't do that at all. I try to treat people with common courtesy and common respect. After all they are just trying to support themselves and a family.
[NS]Fergi America
22-01-2009, 04:56
All employment. Obeying the orders of others, who are no better than me...ecch. Note that the CEO (or some other highly-qualified type) isn't the one who'd be giving me any orders. Rather, it's some putz low-level manager.

That's not to say I haven't done any employment. I've done plenty--more than enough to know that if it falls under the common meaning of the word "job" (ie, a thing that an "employer" gives you) I don't want anything to do with it!

As for particular tasks, as long as nobody's ordering me to do it, I find I'm not bothered by a lot of the types of work which I absolutely hated doing as an employee.

Things I wouldn't want to do...child care, nursing, cleaning up poo, stuff like that. I don't "look down on" those jobs, but I wouldn't be any good at them. Same with jobs that require a lot of physical activity.

Wait, I found 1. Dictator. Theres simply no challenge and fun when everyones obeying u w/o questioning.
As Dictator, if you piss off the wrong person, you don't get voted out, you get killed. Same if you piss off a whole bunch of people and they successfully revolt on you.

Personally, that's what I'd call hardcore.

Also, it's a lot more political than it seems. Most dictators (if not all) have to maintain the support of the military in order to stay in power. Keeping the army happy, without losing control to it, would be take a lot of political skill. And, you also have to avoid the aforementioned people's revolution.

Doing all that would be something I'd consider challenging. Whether it would be "fun" or not, I'm not sure. I suspect that in many cases, The People have to be listened to (or made to feel they are being listened to) a lot more than pro-democracy propaganda lets on. Either that and/or the dictator has to kiss up to the army.

Despite all that, if there's an opening for "Dictator" somewhere, I'll be there with bells on. If it sux I can always abdicate.
Muravyets
22-01-2009, 05:16
What are they?

Do you treat people doing those jobs as they are less than you? Are they?
There is pride in every job. There is no such thing as unskilled labor. Every kind of work requires some kind of skill and thought. Inasmuch as all people are equal, there is no job that would cause me to look down on someone. I do not consider a waitress, a store clerk, a taxi driver, a roofer, etc, to be less valuable to society than an executive or a teacher or doctor, etc.

There are, however, specific employers who I personally think are "beneath" the people who work for them, and are, generally, not worth working for unless one has no other options.
Eofaerwic
22-01-2009, 15:26
If necessary I would do any and all jobs to support myself. I have actually done a wide range of low-skilled employment to work through university and though I hated every minute of it, I'd rather be doing some sort of job than be on the dole. As such, I try and be as nice as possible to people in minimum wage jobs, as I've been there. But I do get annoyed at people who clearly aren't even making an effort, you have to try and be good at whatever job you do, no matter how crap it is.

However, I have also spent a lot of time, effort and very hard work getting my qualifications (ok, still finishing one off), so I would consider it to be a personal failure not to try and persue a career that uses them and employment taken that doesn't use them would be seen as a stop-gap measure while I look for a better job.

Luckily I now have a great (and relatively secure) job lined up for when I graduate so luckily it shouldn't come to that :D
greed and death
22-01-2009, 15:30
Fast food. I've worked as a janitor at a high school, but I will not do fast food.

/agree fast food is disgusting.
the pay is crap too.
Cabra West
22-01-2009, 15:36
What are they?

Do you treat people doing those jobs as they are less than you? Are they?

Preacher. Soldier. One of those guys doing telephone surveys.

That's about it... anything where I would have to unduly inconvenience or hurt others for no other reason than it being in the job description.
Nodinia
22-01-2009, 15:42
That's about it... anything where I would have to unduly inconvenience or hurt others for no other reason than it being in the job description.

Professional Dominatrix?
Mad hatters in jeans
22-01-2009, 15:48
Has anyone said politician yet? (just kidding they're really lovely people deep down ;)).
I worked as a sales assistant, and have a very strong (how can i put it?) hatred of store jobs, i have empathy for the poor souls who have to work in shops, soo soo boring. And the manager gets antsy if there aren't enough customers and the staff can't do anything. I know i should look for a job, but i hate hate hate low paid work.
I'd consider voluntary work, unfortunately i can't pay bills with that.
Got pretty low morale on the work front at the moment.
Londim
22-01-2009, 15:51
Has anyone said politician yet? (just kidding they're really lovely people deep down ;)).
I worked as a sales assistant, and have a very strong (how can i put it?) hatred of store jobs, i have empathy for the poor souls who have to work in shops, soo soo boring. And the manager gets antsy if there aren't enough customers and the staff can't do anything. I know i should look for a job, but i hate hate hate low paid work.
I'd consider voluntary work, unfortunately i can't pay bills with that.
Got pretty low morale on the work front at the moment.

You're not the only one. I've spent the last two weeks looking for a job. All I ask is that it is in a 30 -45 minute commute and the hours are more weekend based. Nothing is going. I just want an income. Student grants only get you so far.
Cabra West
22-01-2009, 15:51
Professional Dominatrix?

I would have to fall on really hard times for that. ;)
But that being a case of people actually enjoying the hurt and not being the least bit inconvenienced, I might consider it.
Mad hatters in jeans
22-01-2009, 15:52
you're not the only one. I've spent the last two weeks looking for a job. All i ask is that it is in a 30 -45 minute commute and the hours are more weekend based. Nothing is going. I just want an income. Student grants only get you so far.

get out of my head!
Muravyets
22-01-2009, 15:58
Has anyone said politician yet? (just kidding they're really lovely people deep down ;)).
I worked as a sales assistant, and have a very strong (how can i put it?) hatred of store jobs, i have empathy for the poor souls who have to work in shops, soo soo boring. And the manager gets antsy if there aren't enough customers and the staff can't do anything. I know i should look for a job, but i hate hate hate low paid work.
I'd consider voluntary work, unfortunately i can't pay bills with that.
Got pretty low morale on the work front at the moment.
Same here. While I don't look down on any kind of work, I do violently hate having a job and avoid it as much as possible. That's all kinds of jobs, even the cushy ones. I just detest having to put my time at the disposal of someone who, in my opinion, is just going to waste it. Whenever I get a job, the clock haunts me, and I keep having to remind myself (like 5 times a day) that I'm getting paid to do whatever it is. But then I start calculating the amount of the pay against the degree of my loathing, and it doesn't balance out.

I've worked retail and office jobs. They both suck, in my opinion. Personally, I would not want to work in any job connected to food service, medicine, clothes, or anything directly to do with the human body, because my work experience has taught me that people are whiny little babies, especially when it comes to stuff like that, and I just don't have the necessary customer service personality traits for that. I admire people who can put up with the shit customers pull in restaurants, clothing stores, etc. I can't do it.

I did work retail in a food store once -- some chi-chi gourmet place -- and I would not want to do that again because of the behind-the-scenes filth. I can still remember the smells. And the rat traps. Working with food can put you right off eating. But I won't say I would never do it again, because you never know what circumstances might demand.
Muravyets
22-01-2009, 16:00
You're not the only one. I've spent the last two weeks looking for a job. All I ask is that it is in a 30 -45 minute commute and the hours are more weekend based. Nothing is going. I just want an income. Student grants only get you so far.
There's nothing out there. Or, rather, where I am, there are some job listings, but so many people out of work, the chances of getting an interview are depressingly low. I really don't know what I'm going to do if the job market doesn't improve soonishly.
Aschenhyrst
22-01-2009, 16:04
Lots of valid points in this thread. The main one is the economy is in the crapper, everyone must get of their high horse and take what there is for jobs. Being from a rural area, I don`t think there are many jobs that I`m too good for. Ther are plenty I don`t want to do again but might have to if the bottom falls out of the economy.

Some of my favorites that I wouldn`t want to repeat:
1) Farm-hand, I just love smelling like animal excrement all day!
2) Grain Elevator laborer, most of the working conditions were outlawed by the Geneva Convention!
3)Municipal laborer, The roadkill pick-up guy!
4) Plumbers apprentice, the only thing better than smelling like animal feces is smelling like human feces!

Jobs I`d love to have but the waiting list is too damn long:
1) Taste tester in a brewery, no need to explain!
2) Porn Stud, again no need to explain!
3) High explosives expert, blow up sh*t and get paid!
4) World leader, I know as little as the guys in charge now!
Desperate Measures
22-01-2009, 16:08
I work as a 411 operator. Basically the only job I can look down on is People Regurgitation Assistant on the 9th circle of hell.
Cabra West
22-01-2009, 16:10
Lots of valid points in this thread. The main one is the economy is in the crapper, everyone must get of their high horse and take what there is for jobs. Being from a rural area, I don`t think there are many jobs that I`m too good for. Ther are plenty I don`t want to do again but might have to if the bottom falls out of the economy.

Some of my favorites that I wouldn`t want to repeat:
1) Farm-hand, I just love smelling like animal excrement all day!
2) Grain Elevator laborer, most of the working conditions were outlawed by the Geneva Convention!
3)Municipal laborer, The roadkill pick-up guy!
4) Plumbers apprentice, the only thing better than smelling like animal feces is smelling like human feces!

Jobs I`d love to have but the waiting list is too damn long:
1) Taste tester in a brewery, no need to explain!
2) Porn Stud, again no need to explain!
3) High explosives expert, blow up sh*t and get paid!
4) World leader, I know as little as the guys in charge now!

I notice there's little or no qualification required for any of those...
Gauntleted Fist
22-01-2009, 16:26
I notice there's little or no qualification required for any of those...High explosives expert with little or no qualification...?

Er, right, get back to me on how that goes, mmkay? :D
Cabra West
22-01-2009, 16:32
High explosives expert with little or no qualification...?

Er, right, get back to me on how that goes, mmkay? :D

Well, he said all he wanted to do was blow up things and get away with it.
Thousands of people do that every year.
Muravyets
22-01-2009, 16:35
Well, he said all he wanted to do was blow up things and get away with it.
Thousands of people do that every year.
Yeah, but not twice, as they usually blow themselves up, too.

Unless they are properly qualified, that is. :p
Gauntleted Fist
22-01-2009, 16:39
Well, he said all he wanted to do was blow up things and get away with it.
Thousands of people do that every year.And get paid. Kinda have to live through stuff to get paid for blowing it up, yeah? o_0;

Yeah, but not twice, as they usually blow themselves up, too.

Unless they are properly qualified, that is. :p'Xactly.
Risottia
22-01-2009, 16:44
What are they? Do you treat people doing those jobs as they are less than you? Are they?

I'm overqualified for a lot of jobs. Anyway, this doesn't give me any right to frown upon ANY worker, WTF!

(anyway I hate taxi drivers - for their driving style, bloody criminals 999 out of 1000).
Cabra West
22-01-2009, 16:45
And get paid. Kinda have to live through stuff to get paid for blowing it up, yeah? o_0;

'Xactly.

I can't imagine all those IRA knackers were exceedingly qualified for anything, really.
Or those ETA guys.
Or the RAF guys in Germany.

The list is long ;)
Gauntleted Fist
22-01-2009, 16:49
I can't imagine all those IRA knackers were exceedingly qualified for anything, really.
Or those ETA guys.
Or the RAF guys in Germany.

The list is long ;)http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00HUfPK1El5m8/340x.jpg
Bet you that guy is an expert, and he's getting paid. (And probably still nervous as hell. :D)
Suvyamarah
22-01-2009, 17:07
For what it is worth hang in there it will turn around. Best of luck. Walk into the next one like you own the place and they would be lucky to have you. Walk into the next one like "You are the Man". Channel it, picture it in your head, for example you are your favorite superhero for the day. For a day bullets bounce off of you. It works.

Thanks for the concern.
Londim
22-01-2009, 17:14
get out of my head!

But it's so comfortable!
JuNii
22-01-2009, 17:38
What are they?

Do you treat people doing those jobs as they are less than you? Are they?

...

er...

hmmm...

indentured servant?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
22-01-2009, 17:44
...

er...

hmmm...

indentured servant?

Watashi no shimobe, JuNii-kun!!
Neesika
22-01-2009, 17:54
Jobs I'm too good for?

How about jobs I simply object to on a philosophical basis?

I would not join the military. I would not enter conventional politics. I would not work for a company involved in extracting oil, precious stones or metals, or any company extracting natural resources in a unsustainable, environmentally damaging manner. I would not work for a company, on any level, that uses sweat-shop labour, or that has a history of treating its employees very badly.

There are any number of jobs I would not take based on ethical issues. Are there any jobs I'm just 'too good for' aside from that? Not really. If I needed money, I don't care if I had to make it slinging hash at some greasy spoon, or filling in potholes, or taking my clothes off at a strip bar. That's right. I don't put stripping in the same category as the morally objectionable professions I listed above.
JuNii
22-01-2009, 17:55
Watashi no shimobe, JuNii-kun!!

HAIIII!*
*since I don't owe you money and you asked... it's not being an indentured servant.
:p
Mirkana
22-01-2009, 18:33
Mindless jobs like flipping burgers, because they are mindless. If I needed a job like that, I would look into working at a bookstore, museum, or game shop, where my intellect can come in handy.

I don't look down on people in such jobs.
Vault 10
22-01-2009, 18:36
What are they?
PotUS.

Do you treat people doing those jobs as they are less than you? Are they?
Slightly. No, they aren't.
Hydesland
22-01-2009, 18:37
I don't think any job is below a student.
Kryozerkia
22-01-2009, 20:42
Isn't that an elitist reason though?

Not if you look at it this way:

Two people are applying for the same job. One person only has a high school diploma, the other is a senior in university studying business accounting. The job is a minimum wage job. The person with a university education is close to graduating, and they put on their resume the amount of education they have. During the interview, they're honest about it and say that they're going to graduate at the end of the year.

The place with the minimum wage job that's hiring will likely pick the person with less education because the person with just a high school diploma won't be as likely to leave for greener pastures as the one with a post-secondary education.

It's not that the job is beneath them, it's that the employer will see the person as "above" the job (read: overqualified) and not make a move to hire that person because they believe that the person would not be an asset to the organization. In other words, it's "below" the person because that person is seen as someone who won't stay around and the time spent investing in that person as an employee would be time wasted in the view of the employer.