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So I was watching Blazing Saddles last night on DVD (I don't watch it on TV since the censors tend to take out all the fun words). I realized something. 1. Mel Brooks is, and always will be The King when it comes to comedy/satire movies. 2. No one in Hollywood (not even Mr. Brooks) would dare make another film like Blazing Saddles today, which is a damn shame. Whatever happen to films that make us laugh, and think at the same time? Whatever happen to films that gives the middle finger and goes "I'm going to make fun of you, you, you, you..."? If Hollywood ever made another "Blazing Saddles", I would watch that film over and over and over. But no, they don't want to because the world is filled with wimps and pussies. Gone are the days of innovative films, now we get cookie cutter Romantic Comedies, film about black culture that borders on blackface (and some of it IS blackface, IE "Soul Plane"), and comedies that has jokes so bland and overdone, it makes me yawn.

Who's with me?!

errrrr, what was the question?

If only someone would release a movie that was expressly insulting to as many people as it could be at once. And if only that movie could be wildly successful, grossing over $250 million worldwide. Oh, but no one has made a movie like that in 30 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borat:_Cultural_Learnings_of_America_for_Make_Benefit_Glorious_Nation_of_Kazakhstan

No one's with you.

errrrr, what was the question?

Am I the only one who's tired of seeing the same crap on the big screen and what something that was as bold and amazing as Blazing Saddles was?

Am I the only one who's tired of seeing the same crap on the big screen and what something that was as bold and amazing as Blazing Saddles was?

You're just being nostalgic. The proportion of quality to crap is much the same as it ever was imho.

If there's one thing that seems to have changed, it's that the major motion picture studios have realized that you can't pile all of the good stuff into a trailer and expect people to simply ignore the critics.

Whether this has resulted in more solid films or more vapid trailers, however, is a matter of personal opinion. :D

and in my day, we walked up hill both ways!

If only someone would release a movie that was expressly insulting to as many people as it could be at once. And if only that movie could be wildly successful, grossing over $250 million worldwide. Oh, but no one has made a movie like that in 30 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borat:_Cultural_Learnings_of_America_for_Make_Benefit_Glorious_Nation_of_Kazakhstan

No one's with you.

I know, and like, who would have the balls to make a movie about two GAY COWBOYS, huh? Like that would ever make $180 million globally..

So I was watching Blazing Saddles last night on DVD (I don't watch it on TV since the censors tend to take out all the fun words). I realized something. 1. Mel Brooks is, and always will be The King when it comes to comedy/satire movies. 2. No one in Hollywood (not even Mr. Brooks) would dare make another film like Blazing Saddles today, which is a damn shame. Whatever happen to films that make us laugh, and think at the same time? Whatever happen to films that gives the middle finger and goes "I'm going to make fun of you, you, you, you..."? If Hollywood ever made another "Blazing Saddles", I would watch that film over and over and over. But no, they don't want to because the world is filled with wimps and pussies. Gone are the days of innovative films, now we get cookie cutter Romantic Comedies, film about black culture that borders on blackface (and some of it IS blackface, IE "Soul Plane"), and comedies that has jokes so bland and overdone, it makes me yawn.

Who's with me?!

The only 'kings' of comedy or satire are British, such as William Shakespeare.

It will be okay once this fad for talkies has passed.

Meh...Blazing Saddles wasn't that great of a film anyways.

*ducks thrown vegetables*

It will be okay once this fad for talkies has passed.
Mmm, yes, yes, quite and rather.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go polish my monocle collection.

I'd tend to agree that movies are too repetative these days. I guess a prequel/remake/sequel/adaptation of something known to be successful is a safer business proposition than a new idea.

Spaceballs > Blazing Saddles

comedy films in general seemed better in the 80's, so i'm kinda with you

Spaceballs > Blazing Saddles

comedy films in general seemed better in the 80's, so i'm kinda with you

I don't watch much comedies, but sci-fi and action were doing damn good in the eighties. That decade gave us the end of the first Star Wars trilogy, some of the best of Star Trek, Terminator, and, I believe Alien as well. I have a lot of appreciation for the eighties when it comes to movies.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go polish my monocle collection.

Don't you have a man to do that

I don't watch much comedies, but sci-fi and action were doing damn good in the eighties. That decade gave us the end of the first Star Wars trilogy, some of the best of Star Trek, Terminator, and, I believe Alien as well. I have a lot of appreciation for the eighties when it comes to movies.

You missed one of the greatest movies ever - The Princess Bride!

Maybe you should frequent more film festivals.

Spaceballs > Blazing Saddles

comedy films in general seemed better in the 80's, so i'm kinda with you

Spaceballs was horrible. Maybe you haven't been watching the right comedy films. Go watch 40 year-old Virgin.

Mel Brooks has style. He made many funny ones. Everyone need to loosen up first. It is the Politically Correct took over, if you ask me. I never like the PC movement. I think it is false and condescending. The jokes have to flow both way.

Spaceballs > Blazing Saddles

comedy films in general seemed better in the 80's, so i'm kinda with you

Spaceballs and Blazing Saddles are both from Mel Brooks. The OP's point stands.

Re the OP, my opinion is as follows:

1) Mel Brooks is DA MAN!! :hail: Anyone who says otherwise can bite me. :p

2) I agree with someone else's point that the ratio of shitty movies to good ones is most probably constant over time, so that there are not actually MORE shitty movies being produced now than before.

3) HOWEVER, I do believe that there has been an upgrade in shittiness, meaning that, qualitatively, although there is not more shit, the shit we get is way shittier now than it was before the 90s. I am not exactly sure why this is, but I suspect it has to do with film technology allowing for greater polishing and buffing and gold-plating of worthless turds. Perhaps it is the dressing up that makes them look all the worse than they might if they were made for $50k rather than $50mil.

4) Sadly, whatever it is that is upping the crap factor is not having the same effect for the non-crap factor. Bad seems to be gaining strength, while good remains constant.

Spaceballs and Blazing Saddles are both from Mel Brooks. The OP's point stands.

Re the OP, my opinion is as follows:

1) Mel Brooks is DA MAN!! :hail: Anyone who says otherwise can bite me. :p

2) I agree with someone else's point that the ratio of shitty movies to good ones is most probably constant over time, so that there are not actually MORE shitty movies being produced now than before.

3) HOWEVER, I do believe that there has been an upgrade in shittiness, meaning that, qualitatively, although there is not more shit, the shit we get is way shittier now than it was before the 90s. I am not exactly sure why this is, but I suspect it has to do with film technology allowing for greater polishing and buffing and gold-plating of worthless turds. Perhaps it is the dressing up that makes them look all the worse than they might if they were made for $50k rather than $50mil.

4) Sadly, whatever it is that is upping the crap factor is not having the same effect for the non-crap factor. Bad seems to be gaining strength, while good remains constant.

Just look at the thing, great horror movie, and all of the special effects where more or less Jello and latex...

A lot of really good movies have been made recently.

Spaceballs and Blazing Saddles are both from Mel Brooks. The OP's point stands.


i know that - that's why i mentioned it. i'm just saying spaceballs is a better and funnier movie to me. nothing really to do with the OPs actual point

Spaceballs was horrible. Maybe you haven't been watching the right comedy films. Go watch 40 year-old Virgin.

meh, pretty funny... certainly makes me laugh, but its no classic like Caddyshack 2.

If there's one thing that seems to have changed, it's that the major motion picture studios have realized that you can't pile all of the good stuff into a trailer and expect people to simply ignore the critics.

Whether this has resulted in more solid films or more vapid trailers, however, is a matter of personal opinion. :D

people ignored the critics because there has been a disconnect between critics and the general movie going population for years. I attribute it to Critics trying to 1 predict awards and 2 trying to make themselves sound educated.

I prefer Airplane!.

Don't you have a man to do that
And let another man handle my lenses!? You must be speaking in jest, and I certainly hope you are not so ... strange ... as to find such ideas pleasurable.

Just look at the thing, great horror movie, and all of the special effects where more or less Jello and latex...
You are referring to The Thing with Kurt Russel. I hated that movie. I preferred the 1950s cold war version, with James Arness as the man-eating space-carrot, in which the effects were just him with a box on his head, dramatically back-lit.

Yes, yes, I know the later version was truer to the short story, but we're talking good movies here, not good story adaptations. It is my view that the 1950s The Thing, which had no effects to speak of, told the story via the actors and script and managed to maintain a much stronger, though more subtle, feeling of tension and threat throughout the length of the film.

I'm not anti-effects. I love special effects. Special effects are kind of the whole point of movie-making, and were the thing that set motion pictures apart from other artforms. The very first movies were full of special effects. But when the special effects become the story, then I think we see that movies lose something. I think a lot of effects-heavy shitty movies are really just exercises in "Hey, look what the effects lab can do!"

Of course, this doesn't apply to shitty movies that suck because of bad writing, bad acting, bad direction, and bad ideas at the root of it all (Uwe Boll).

Mel Brooks is very good, but John Cleese is better.

Mel Brooks is very good, but John Cleese is better.
Not the same kind of comedian, making the comparison pointless.

Clever dialog is what most movies are lacking nowadays.

Take Get Shorty and Be Cool for example. Those movies are smart, funny, entertaining and virtually live off their protagonists delivering well written lines.

Don't get me wrong, I like an action movie as well, but movies like those mentioned above tend to have more impact.

So basically, a bunch of hand picked movies from a period of over several years are more entertaining than the average movie from a single year. That's quite the groundbreaking thesis you've got there.

So basically, a bunch of hand picked movies from a period of over several years are more entertaining than the average movie from a single year. That's quite the groundbreaking thesis you've got there.

Circle gets the square.

the quality of movies has gone downhill.

mainly, I blame special effects. take the James Bond films.

during the early years, Sean Connery and Roger Moore. they had to go out and find out what the villian was up to. An Agent is killed and JB is sent to figure out why. a shuttle is stolen and JB is sent to figure out why. a British spy sub sinks and JB is sent to retrieve the decoding machine... etc...

but the end of Roger Moore to Pierce Brosnen, it was all about the chase, the gadgets, and the fights. Heck, in Tomorrow Never Dies, he's told who his target is and what he's doing that JB must stop.

the latest ones, are trying to go back to the old formula. but again, gratuitus car chases and fights can be a bit too much.

yes, not too much new stuff in movies, which is why I like the older stuff or the low budget stuff.

I'm not yet elderly enough (nor enough of a film connoisseur) to state this with absolute certainty, but I'm willing to bet the quality of movies has stayed pretty much constant.

The thing is, when we compare the past to the present, we generally don't do it fairly. We compare the particularly memorable and exceptional parts of the past to the entirety of the present. There's no doubt "Blazing Saddles" is better than most movies made today. Of course, "Little Miss Sunshine" (to pick a random good recent comedy) is also better than most movies made today - or, for that matter, most movies made in the eighties, or the fifties, or any other era. We just don't hear as much about the movies from 1982 that sucked horribly as we do about the movies from 2008 that sucked horribly, for stupendously obvious reasons.

Wait, Blazing Sadles made you laugh and think?

There are loads of good movies around. You just have to go and see them.

Although if you consider Blazing Saddles to be the peak of cinema then you probably shouldn't bother.

I'm not yet elderly enough (nor enough of a film connoisseur) to state this with absolute certainty, but I'm willing to bet the quality of movies has stayed pretty much constant.

The thing is, when we compare the past to the present, we generally don't do it fairly. We compare the particularly memorable and exceptional parts of the past to the entirety of the present. There's no doubt "Blazing Saddles" is better than most movies made today. Of course, "Little Miss Sunshine" (to pick a random good recent comedy) is also better than most movies made today - or, for that matter, most movies made in the eighties, or the fifties, or any other era. We just don't hear as much about the movies from 1982 that sucked horribly as we do about the movies from 2008 that sucked horribly, for stupendously obvious reasons.
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Kids, the 80's sucked. I was there, it sucked. Blue screened action heroes, formulaic 'trend' based movies where with climaxes centered around the youth interrupting the city planning meeting to prevent the mean ol' developer from tearing down the youth center, or scheming kids using opulence trappings to score chicks...I could go on. Time is a great filter, don't substitute it for what really was.

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...is it bad that I kinda want to see this now?

I mean, it's a guy beating up ninjas with the power of cartwheels! How can that not be awesome?!

I'm not yet elderly enough (nor enough of a film connoisseur) to state this with absolute certainty, but I'm willing to bet the quality of movies has stayed pretty much constant.

The thing is, when we compare the past to the present, we generally don't do it fairly. We compare the particularly memorable and exceptional parts of the past to the entirety of the present. There's no doubt "Blazing Saddles" is better than most movies made today. Of course, "Little Miss Sunshine" (to pick a random good recent comedy) is also better than most movies made today - or, for that matter, most movies made in the eighties, or the fifties, or any other era. We just don't hear as much about the movies from 1982 that sucked horribly as we do about the movies from 2008 that sucked horribly, for stupendously obvious reasons.

I'm pretty sure I had a similar post in a thread lamenting the decline in music.

...is it bad that I kinda want to see this now?

I mean, it's a guy beating up ninjas with the power of cartwheels! How can that not be awesome?!

The best part is the uneven bars that are in the middle of the forest for some reason.

For those who don't know, that's Olympic medalist Kurt Thomas riding the wave of gymnastic popularity after the 1984 Olympics and, of course, the popularity of crappy cookie cutter ninja movies like American Ninja, Enter the Ninja, and Ninja Turf.

That's the decade that's being lionized. All hail.

I'm pretty sure I had a similar post in a thread lamenting the decline in music.
A post like that has to be made in every thread of these kinds. Because they're stupid for that reason.

The best part is the uneven bars that are in the middle of the forest for some reason.
This idea or concept seems plausible to me. I think I will accept it.

...is it bad that I kinda want to see this now?

I mean, it's a guy beating up ninjas with the power of cartwheels! How can that not be awesome?!

Gymkata was freakin' AWESOME, as long as you were about ten or so when it came out.

There's a scene where he's surrounded, and there just happens to be a stone well in the middle of a little town square, and it just happens to have exactly the dimensions of a pommel horse....you can see where this is going.

The best part is the uneven bars that are in the middle of the forest for some reason.

For those who don't know, that's Olympic medalist Kurt Thomas riding the wave of gymnastic popularity after the 1984 Olympics and, of course, the popularity of crappy cookie cutter ninja movies like American Ninja, Enter the Ninja, and Ninja Turf.

That's the decade that's being lionized. All hail.
No, it isn't. I mean, okay, yeah, a couple of people said they thought some movies or some kinds of movies were better in the 80s than now, but this has hardly been an all-hail-the-80s thread. There's close to a century of filmmaking for us to compare, you know. It wasn't all big hair and pegged jeans.

This idea or concept seems plausible to me. I think I will accept it.

Now just apply that to Objectivism, and you'll understand why a nation would have an entire town full of the violently insane...and make passage through it part of the national sport!

No, it isn't. I mean, okay, yeah, a couple of people said they thought some movies or some kinds of movies were better in the 80s than now, but this has hardly been an all-hail-the-80s thread. There's close to a century of filmmaking for us to compare, you know. It wasn't all big hair and pegged jeans.

I was responding to the ones that were, ms. everythingsaboutme ;p

And pick a decade and I'll do the same. We remember the good ones and the hundreds of others rot in studio libraries.

No, it isn't. I mean, okay, yeah, a couple of people said they thought some movies or some kinds of movies were better in the 80s than now, but this has hardly been an all-hail-the-80s thread. There's close to a century of filmmaking for us to compare, you know. It wasn't all big hair and pegged jeans.
Don't make me bring up the Catalina Caper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalina_Caper) (or beach films in general), because I will do it.

The best part is the uneven bars that are in the middle of the forest for some reason.

For those who don't know, that's Olympic medalist Kurt Thomas riding the wave of gymnastic popularity after the 1984 Olympics and, of course, the popularity of crappy cookie cutter ninja movies like American Ninja, Enter the Ninja, and Ninja Turf.

That's the decade that's being lionized. All hail.

and there was that movie, damn it what was it called, with the evil black afro man ninja and his red glowing hands!

and there was that movie, damn it what was it called, with the evil black afro man ninja and his red glowing hands!

DO NOT DISS The Last Dragon!!!

Do I need to get Sho' Nuff on yo ass?
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Okay, yeah, that was a crap movie, but god help me I loved it.

DO NOT DISS The Last Dragon!!!

Do I need to get Sho' Nuff on yo ass?
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa269/farbar2007/shonuff.jpg



Okay, yeah, that was a crap movie, but god help me I loved it.

THANK YOU, that was pissing me off.

1) Mel Brooks is DA MAN!! :hail: Anyone who says otherwise can bite me. :p


*bites Murav*

THANK YOU, that was pissing me off.

Its out on DVD you know.

And its got Bowler from Brisco County Jr.

The best part is the uneven bars that are in the middle of the forest for some reason.

For those who don't know, that's Olympic medalist Kurt Thomas riding the wave of gymnastic popularity after the 1984 Olympics and, of course, the popularity of crappy cookie cutter ninja movies like American Ninja, Enter the Ninja, and Ninja Turf.

That's the decade that's being lionized. All hail.
yet, can you think of any movie before or after Gymkata that was close to the premise? ;)

Don't make me bring up the Catalina Caper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalina_Caper) (or beach films in general), because I will do it.
Catalina Caper is the only movie I was never able to sit through on MST3K. It's that bad.

I know, and like, who would have the balls to make a movie about two GAY COWBOYS, huh? Like that would ever make $180 million globally..
Or a movie that is extremely critical of daily office life, while being quite funny (Office Space)
Okay, yeah, that was a crap movie, but god help me I loved it.
I seem to remember hearing that it is being remade...

The only 'kings' of comedy or satire are British, such as William Shakespeare.

Ambrose Bierce was American.

So I was watching Blazing Saddles last night on DVD (I don't watch it on TV since the censors tend to take out all the fun words). I realized something. 1. Mel Brooks is, and always will be The King when it comes to comedy/satire movies. 2. No one in Hollywood (not even Mr. Brooks) would dare make another film like Blazing Saddles today, which is a damn shame. Whatever happen to films that make us laugh, and think at the same time? Whatever happen to films that gives the middle finger and goes "I'm going to make fun of you, you, you, you..."? If Hollywood ever made another "Blazing Saddles", I would watch that film over and over and over. But no, they don't want to because the world is filled with wimps and pussies. Gone are the days of innovative films, now we get cookie cutter Romantic Comedies, film about black culture that borders on blackface (and some of it IS blackface, IE "Soul Plane"), and comedies that has jokes so bland and overdone, it makes me yawn.

Who's with me?!

"Blazing Saddles" was shit.

If movies are no longer comparable to it... that's a good thing.

"Blazing Saddles" was shit.

If movies are no longer comparable to it... that's a good thing.

So, what you're really trying to say is that Spaceballs was much better?

I seem to remember hearing that it is being remade...

With Samual L. Jackson as Sho' Nuff (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/samuel-l-jackson-resurrects-sho-nuff-julius-carry-still-dead-but-rolls-over-anyway.php), no less...a development page on IMDb and everything.

There's still time for this to wither on the vine...

EDIT It's not as far along as The Warriors remake (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423512/).

So, what you're really trying to say is that Spaceballs was much better?

Since, in any infinite series of infinitely tiny divisions, it is certain that everything must have some position relative to every other, yes.

In as much as it's unlikely you'll break out sunscreen and swimtrunks when the temperature increase from 0 kelvin to 1 kelvin, however...

Catalina Caper is the only movie I was never able to sit through on MST3K. It's that bad.

There's no way. Worse than Manos?

Since, in any infinite series of infinitely tiny divisions, it is certain that everything must have some position relative to every other, yes.

In as much as it's unlikely you'll break out sunscreen and swimtrunks when the temperature increase from 0 kelvin to 1 kelvin, however...

I'm personally of the opinion that one could not have arrived at 0 Kelvin in a finite number of iterations to begin with. Its the 3rd tenet of my philosophical system, Objectivism.

Besides, if you make Blazing Saddles 0 K, you leave no place to put "Life Stinks".

With Samual L. Jackson as Sho' Nuff (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/samuel-l-jackson-resurrects-sho-nuff-julius-carry-still-dead-but-rolls-over-anyway.php), no less...a development page on IMDb and everything.

There's still time for this to wither on the vine...
as much as I know I'm going to hate it, and as much as I know it's going to be awful, I kinda really want to see it.


Alot.

as much as I know I'm going to hate it, and as much as I know it's going to be awful, I kinda really want to see it.


Alot.

Bet Ernie Reyes (was that his name) gets recast somewhere in there.

as much as I know I'm going to hate it, and as much as I know it's going to be awful, I kinda really want to see it.


Alot.

It's that kind of thinking that had me in the theater for Ghost Rider...fight it, for your own good, fight it.

I'm personally of the opinion that one could not have arrived at 0 Kelvin in a finite number of iterations to begin with. Its the 3rd tenet of my philosophical system, Objectivism.

Besides, if you make Blazing Saddles 0 K, you leave no place to put "Life Stinks".

I'm guessing I am lucky, since "Life Stinks" means nothing to me.

It's that kind of thinking that had me in the theater for Ghost Rider...fight it, for your own good, fight it.
There's gotta be some amount of booze or other mind-altering substances that would make it tolerable...

Though, considering how rare it is that I go see a movie in the theaters, I suppose I shouldn't waste it on this...

I'm guessing I am lucky, since "Life Stinks" means nothing to me.

Dude, if you didn't like "Blazing Saddles", and if you aren't such a Mel Brooks fan that when you shook his hand after the Vegas opening of "The Producers" you creeped him out a little by calling him "Mr. Kaminsky", like I did, then you REALLY REALLY won't like "Life Stinks".

It would be like if you were a big fan of Sarah McLachlan, and you watched her do a duet with Ashlee Simpson...of something written by Ashlee Simpson.

Dude, if you didn't like "Blazing Saddles", and if you aren't such a Mel Brooks fan that when you shook his hand after the Vegas opening of "The Producers" you creeped him out a little by calling him "Mr. Kaminsky", like I did, then you REALLY REALLY won't like "Life Stinks".

It would be like if you were a big fan of Sarah McLachlan, and you watched her do a duet with Ashlee Simpson...of something written by Ashlee Simpson.

Ah. As a much bigger fan of Sarah McLachlan than I am of Mel Brooks (which is to say, I quite like Sarah McLachlan) I feel the pain of the Ashlee Simpson cover.

*makes a list of movies not to watch. Puts "Life Stinks" at the top*

Ah. As a much bigger fan of Sarah McLachlan than I am of Mel Brooks (which is to say, I quite like Sarah McLachlan) I feel the pain of the Ashlee Simpson cover.

*makes a list of movies not to watch. Puts "Life Stinks" at the top*

Its not that bad, really.

There is an international treaty to which all nations were willing and emphatic signators to, that basically makes it unlawful to broadcast "Life Stinks", for fear of reprisal from any extra-terrestrial species that might receive it accidently in space before we have a chance to explain and apologize. The treaty is enforced by unilateral nuclear response.

But its not that bad.

So, what you're really trying to say is that Spaceballs was much better?

I don't speak for GnI here but they're both crap.

Its not that bad, really.

There is an international treaty to which all nations were willing and emphatic signators to, that basically makes it unlawful to broadcast "Life Stinks", for fear of reprisal from any extra-terrestrial species that might receive it accidently in space before we have a chance to explain and apologize. The treaty is enforced by unilateral nuclear response.

But its not that bad.

That episode of Spongebob, where Patrick writes the horripulant "Twinkle Twinkle, Patrick Star" song, and the session band get handed it by a guy who says it made his eyes throw up?

That bad?

I don't speak for GnI here but they're both crap.

Then you do speak for me. :)

There's no way. Worse than Manos?
Yes. Worse than Manos, Hands of Fate. Manos actually had some cult-pop-culture-reference value. Catalina Caper has none. Nobody -- not the nerdiest of nerds -- makes any jokes about Catalina Caper the way they do about Manos and Torgo. Why? Because nobody has ever seen enough of it to get any references out of it. It's literally unwatchable. Your eyes will refuse to stay focussed on it.

Or a movie that is extremely critical of daily office life, while being quite funny (Office Space)
Office Space was so white bread, I can't think of anything else to say about it.

Office Space was so white bread, I can't think of anything else to say about it.

Are you saying David Herman isn't "street" enough for you?

Because he shanked a guy in the liver in a New Orleans jail 2 years ago for dissing him.

Are you saying David Herman isn't "street" enough for you?
I'm saying that the movie was bland, mainstream and dull. That it dragged. That it's satire was toothless. That the main character was annoying and whiny and white as all fucking ...
Yeah, I guess you were right. As usual.
Because he shanked a guy in the liver in a New Orleans jail 2 years ago for dissing him.
Now a shanking, that would have improved Office Space by at least 4.2 APUs (Arbitrary Preference Units).

I'm saying that the movie was bland, mainstream and dull. That it dragged. That it's satire was toothless. That the main character was annoying and whiny and white as all fucking ...
Yeah, I guess you were right. As usual.

Now a shanking, that would have improved Office Space by at least 4.2 APUs (Arbitrary Preference Units).

office space would have been perfect had the movie been compressed into 30 minutes.

So I was watching Blazing Saddles last night on DVD (I don't watch it on TV since the censors tend to take out all the fun words). I realized something. 1. Mel Brooks is, and always will be The King when it comes to comedy/satire movies. 2. No one in Hollywood (not even Mr. Brooks) would dare make another film like Blazing Saddles today, which is a damn shame. Whatever happen to films that make us laugh, and think at the same time? Whatever happen to films that gives the middle finger and goes "I'm going to make fun of you, you, you, you..."? If Hollywood ever made another "Blazing Saddles", I would watch that film over and over and over. But no, they don't want to because the world is filled with wimps and pussies. Gone are the days of innovative films, now we get cookie cutter Romantic Comedies, film about black culture that borders on blackface (and some of it IS blackface, IE "Soul Plane"), and comedies that has jokes so bland and overdone, it makes me yawn.

Who's with me?!
Wilgrove, if you'd bother to actually look at the various movies released over time, you'd notice that the amount of crap versus quality is more or less the same no matter what year you look at.

It's just that we usually don't remember the crap. Why should we? It's crap. So we don't remember it, and we only remember the good stuff.

It's the nostalgia filter, basically. The idea that everything was better before--only that's not true, it's just that you don't remember all the crap.

But no, they don't want to because the world is filled with wimps and pussies.

Showing your true side once more there, Wil. Personally speaking I live for the day that the world be filled with pussy.
But not you, oh no! You appear to absolutely hate the thought!
I know the closet is nice and cosy, Wil but it's time to leave it.

Showing your true side once more there, Wil. Personally speaking I live for the day that the world be filled with pussy.
But not you, oh no! You appear to absolutely hate the thought!
I know the closet is nice and cosy, Wil but it's time to leave it.

Don't judge too hastily.

I frequently attended the college campus groups that support my philosophy, and many virile young heterosexual males exhibited no sexual response to me at all, despite me being the eminent founder of the philosophical construct upon which they based their lives.

Sometimes young men are just occupied with other things.

Don't judge too hastily.

I frequently attended the college campus groups that support my philosophy, and many virile young heterosexual males exhibited no sexual response to me at all, despite me being the eminent founder of the philosophical construct upon which they based their lives.

Sometimes young men are just occupied with other things.
But you're a ghost. How would you even ...
I mean you're not really ...
I don't want to hurt your feelings or anything, because then you might come through my TV screen and chase me into a closet while reciting monologues from your totally fascinating novels, but you haven't really got a working vagina, right now. Have you?

But you're a ghost. How would you even ...
I mean you're not really ...
I don't want to hurt your feelings or anything, because then you might come through my TV screen and chase me into a closet while reciting monologues from your totally fascinating novels, but you haven't really got a working vagina, right now. Have you?

Vaginas don't work. Men work, to build and create the world, to master nature, to leave their mark!

You'd know that if you familiarized yourself with the works of Eminent Russian American Philsopher Ayn Rand.







When I was alive, it itched a lot.

But you're a ghost. How would you even ...
I mean you're not really ...
I don't want to hurt your feelings or anything, because then you might come through my TV screen and chase me into a closet while reciting monologues from your totally fascinating novels, but you haven't really got a working vagina, right now. Have you?

Have you seen Poltergeist? If you think the ghost there was rocking the house, think of how much she could rock your world.

When I was alive, it itched a lot.
Oh. I'm sorry, I have a toe that does that. The toe itches, I don't mean that the toe has an itchy vagina.

Oh. I'm sorry, I have a toe that does that. The toe itches, I don't mean that the toe has an itchy vagina.

That kind of stilted prose is what prevents your novels from being the basis of a Philosophy, like mine.

You should read my novela, "Little-Johnny-Gets-Sold-Into-A-Child-Trafficking-Ring-Because-His-Parents-Lacked-Ego-And-Purpose".

That kind of stilted prose is what prevents your novels from being the basis of a Philosophy, like mine.

You should read my novela, "Little-Johnny-Gets-Sold-Into-A-Child-Trafficking-Ring-Because-His-Parents-Lacked-Ego-And-Purpose".
Wait, so you're making up words now? Or do those hyphens serve some other, more fiendish purpose?

Wait, so you're making up words now? Or do those hyphens serve some other, more fiendish purpose?

I can make up words. I'm Eminent.

In Russian, there's one word for all of that. I'm transliterating.

Stop asking questions.

See, this is why you don't have your own philosophy!

You're just being nostalgic. The proportion of quality to crap is much the same as it ever was imho.

Nostalgia Filter + Sturgeon's Law?

Then you do speak for me. :)

Man, I thought you guys had taste.

I can make up words. I'm Eminent.
Preeminent. PRE-fucking-eminent. Meaning, before eminence. As opposed to post-eminent, meaning "eminence that is twice as long as it needs to be and has had all the original aspects of eminence that attracted people removed and replaced with synthesizers."
Stop asking questions.
But isn't it the role of the individual ego to ask questions about the Universe, and to seek out those answers for one's own self?

But isn't it the role of the individual ego to ask questions about the Universe, and to seek out those answers for one's own self?

Only by using one's senses to read my books.

Other excercise of reason which contradicts Objectivism denies that A=A. It is therefore insanity.

Only by using one's senses to read my books.

Other excercise of reason which contradicts Objectivism denies that A=A. It is therefore insanity.
Senses? You don't mean ...
They've finally made a version of The Fountainhead that is "scratch & sniff!" OH MY GOD, I'VE NEVER BEEN HAPPIER THAN THIS MOMENT!!

Man, I thought you guys had taste.

And knowledge is the enemy of faith, I understand.

Senses? You don't mean ...
They've finally made a version of The Fountainhead that is "scratch & sniff!" OH MY GOD, I'VE NEVER BEEN HAPPIER THAN THIS MOMENT!!

Well, we tried that, but I told the publisher I only wanted to use scents that clearly conveyed the tenets of Objectivism in the book, and they told me that scent can actually be a medium of subtlety and complexity, and I told them I don't know what those words mean.

Well, we tried that, but I told the publisher I only wanted to use scents that clearly conveyed the tenets of Objectivism in the book, and they told me that scent can actually be a medium of subtlety and complexity, and I told them I don't know what those words mean.
You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, sir. Bravo!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/Fiddlebottoms/256px-Tinny_Tim.jpg

You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly, sir. Bravo!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/Fiddlebottoms/256px-Tinny_Tim.jpg

I guess you'll have to join a mainstream philosophy, "like Oprah-ism or Voodoo".

If you want a Futurama example of Objectivism, consider the flying brains. They have self-esteem, purpose, and reason. Their desire to understand the universe is total. What could possibly go wrong?

EDIT It's not as far along as The Warriors remake (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0423512/).

Christ, NO!

...and why in the hell can't the remake be set in NYC? *shakes fist at Hollywood*

Yes. Worse than Manos, Hands of Fate. Manos actually had some cult-pop-culture-reference value. Catalina Caper has none. Nobody -- not the nerdiest of nerds -- makes any jokes about Catalina Caper the way they do about Manos and Torgo. Why? Because nobody has ever seen enough of it to get any references out of it. It's literally unwatchable. Your eyes will refuse to stay focussed on it.

It can't be that bad. There's no way.

(Downloads MST3K episode)

I'll get back to you.