NationStates Jolt Archive


Ayers Refused Entry Into Canada

Hotwife
19-01-2009, 21:38
Must have been all that stuff about putting 40 pounds of rug nails in with 40 sticks of dynamite, and blowing it up...

"I didn't mean to hurt anyone, I was just making a political statement".

Um, yeah. So what were the rug nails in there for?

Looks like Canadian officials have a clear indication of your intent.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/19/ayers-turned-away-canada-immigration-officials/

William Ayers, the 1960s radical whose ties to President-elect Barack Obama caused trouble for his campaign, was turned away from Canada Sunday night as he tried to enter the country for a series of educational events.

Jeffrey Kugler, the executive director for the Center for Urban Schooling at the University of Toronto, said Ayers was deemed not admissible after being pulled aside by Canadian immigration officials while trying to clear customs at the Toronto airport.

Ayers had been invited to speak before the center. He was also scheduled to meet with the Toronto District School Board and do interviews with Canadian television and radio stations, Kugler said.

Kugler said the center sent e-mails notifying guests who planned to attend Ayers' talk that he had been turned back. Kugler said the center will try to reschedule Ayers.

Ayers, a co-founder of the violent Weather Underground group and current education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, told the Toronto Star that he didn't know why he had been turned away.

According to Kugler, Ayers was told he could request a hearing but that would mean some sort of detention and a possible two week wait. Ayers opted to return to Chicago.
Knights of Liberty
19-01-2009, 21:40
The elections over, and the right is still screaming about this guy?
Katganistan
19-01-2009, 21:41
Wow. They deny a speaker entry for crimes he committed twenty years ago, and you're acting like he's trying to blow Canada up.
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 21:42
The elections over, and the right is still screaming about this guy?

Oh, I am only upset about Ayers because the press made him out to be some harmless wonk.

When it's obvious he was a homicidal maniac, who personally and publicly admits he didn't do enough damage.

I could care less about the Obama connection - and I'm sure Obama wishes he never met the man.
No Names Left Damn It
19-01-2009, 21:42
The elections over, and the right is still screaming about this guy?

The election's over, and the left is still screaming about Joe the Plumber?
Exilia and Colonies
19-01-2009, 21:43
The election's over, and the left is still screaming about Joe the Plumber?

Running for senator is a bit more interestworthy than someone failing to get into Canada
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 21:43
Funny, I didn't read anything about nails or dynamite in the article you linked to. And I tend to think that if he had a bomb in his luggage as you imply, they'd do more than refuse him entry... you know, like, arrest his ass?

You need to read more about the man. Where did I say the nail reference was in the article I linked? Here's a hint - I didn't.

He's probably on a terrorist watch list - because of his previous actions and his public statements that he "didn't do enough" even though he admits involvement in many blasts and admits publicly to putting nails in the bombs.
Knights of Liberty
19-01-2009, 21:44
The election's over, and the left is still screaming about Joe the Plumber?

Screaming? No. Lolzing at his stupid antics? Yes. He keeps forcing himself into the media. Of course we're going to laugh at him.
Chumblywumbly
19-01-2009, 21:44
The elections over, and the right is still screaming about this guy?
I didn't realise Canadian immigration officials constituted "the right".


The election's over, and the left is still screaming about Joe the Plumber?
I lol'd.
Knights of Liberty
19-01-2009, 21:47
I didn't realise Canadian immigration officials constituted "the right".


I was refering to Hotwife and Fox News.
One-O-One
19-01-2009, 23:15
Who needs a Weatherman to know which way the wind blows?
Tmutarakhan
19-01-2009, 23:54
it's obvious he was a homicidal maniac, who personally and publicly admits he didn't do enough damage.
That is the opposite of what he said. He said he regretted the bombings, which were useless; but he regrets that he didn't do enough to stop the killing in Vietnam. He wishes he had done more good.
Skallvia
20-01-2009, 00:06
I didn't realise Canadian immigration officials constituted "the right".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Empire_Loyalist

Our most Traditional and Conservative people live in Canada, duh, :p...
The_pantless_hero
20-01-2009, 00:08
Must have been all that stuff about putting 40 pounds of rug nails in with 40 sticks of dynamite, and blowing it up...

"I didn't mean to hurt anyone, I was just making a political statement".

Um, yeah. So what were the rug nails in there for?

Looks like Canadian officials have a clear indication of your intent.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/01/19/ayers-turned-away-canada-immigration-officials/

Have you been taking your meds? You know when you don't take your meds you become delusional and confuse the past with the present.
FreeSatania
20-01-2009, 01:14
I didn't realise Canadian immigration officials constituted "the right".


Unless you consider coset facists with guns to be right wing ... oh wait.
Trostia
20-01-2009, 01:18
Indication of intent? My ass.

It said Ayers was refused entry because of a 1969 conviction during an anti-war demonstration.

The release also said Ayers was not allowed an opportunity to meet with his lawyer. A call to Ayers' lawyer was not immediately returned Monday.

Ayers told Canada's Globe and Mail newspaper that he has traveled to Canada more than a dozen times in the past.

"It seems very arbitrary," he said. "The border agent said I had a conviction for a felony from 1969. I have several arrests for misdemeanors, but not for felonies."

So they don't have a very "clear" idea at all if they are saying that he's being denied (now) for a supposed felony that happened forty years ago. This felony that apparently was just OK with them several times previously.

And they don't have any idea at all about "intent" since they are clearly stating it's for something that allegedly happened in the past, not something he intended to do in the future.

Honestly you aren't even trying.
Copiosa Scotia
20-01-2009, 01:21
When it's obvious he was a homicidal maniac, who personally and publicly admits he didn't do enough damage.

Oh, bullshit.

When I say, "We didn't do enough," a lot of people rush to think, "That must mean, 'We didn't bomb enough shit.'" But that's not the point at all. It's not a tactical statement, it's an obvious political and ethical statement. In this context, "we" means "everyone."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/in-a-not-remote.html
FreeSatania
20-01-2009, 01:23
Are you supporting terrorisim? You must be one of them muslims I heard tell about on de telly ...
Zilam
20-01-2009, 02:09
Oh that's nice. What is newsworthy about this?
The Black Forrest
20-01-2009, 02:14
Meh.
Knights of Liberty
20-01-2009, 03:23
Oh that's nice. What is newsworthy about this?

Obama pals around with terrorists.
Veblenia
20-01-2009, 04:56
Looks like Canadian officials have a clear indication of your intent.



Canadian border guards are morons; few if any of them have a clear indication of what they had for lunch. My brother-in-law, with no criminal record, barely gets through the border these days because his name shows up in a Google search about the anti-FTAA demonstrations in Quebec City.
Gauthier
20-01-2009, 05:37
Obama pals around with terrorists.

Which translate to the following for Real Americans™:

Obama is a closet Ebil Mozlem
Obama will chill out with his homies Hugo and Mahmoud
Obama will THROW ISRAEL UNDER THE BUS
Obama will turn America into Teh Caliphate


So on and so forth.
Dylsexic Untied
20-01-2009, 05:40
Which translate to the following for Real Americans™:

Obama is a closet Ebil Mozlem
Obama will chill out with his homies Hugo and Mahmoud
Obama will THROW ISRAEL UNDER THE BUS
Obama will turn America into Teh Caliphate


So on and so forth.
OH NOES! Get tha' guns, Martha, they're gonna ban them all agin!!!