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SaintB
19-01-2009, 16:54
and disappear for an extended period of time within the next week its because I got pushed over the edge and committed a homicide, I'll either be on the run or incarcerated and on my way to serving life in prison.

There are some very racist members of my family and Martin Luther King Day week is already a bad week, plus we are inaugurating our first not white president. Its not even halfway through MLK Day and I already am sick of the word ******, but no matter how many times I ask or tell them to quit they persist. *urge to kill rising*

To keep this thread from being bloggy spam:

Who else has to deal with this kind of thing year in and year out?

Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?
The Romulan Republic
19-01-2009, 16:57
Calm yourself with the knowledge that no matter how much they rant and rave, their's going to be a black President sworn in and their's nothing they can do about it.
Pure Metal
19-01-2009, 17:00
nope, never really have to deal with racism as nobody i know is a racist (as far as i know...)
one bloke at a conference we organised got drunk and started shouting racist things at indian members of staff, but that was about it, and he's a twat anyway.

i got a 'white supremacy' style letter through from the BNP the other day. fuck knows why they sent me a letter :p
Dumb Ideologies
19-01-2009, 17:00
My Grandparents are comedy racists, in that they don't mean to be, but in trying to preempt any accusations they just try a little bit too hard.

For example "Oh, I went to the doctor. He was an Indian man. Nice though"...as if this is characteristic is somehow surprising. They don't mean it, so its not too irritating.
Smunkeeville
19-01-2009, 17:03
I was worried by the thread title.....but then I read and now I'm not so scared. LOL

Please don't kill the racists.....it'll only make a mess.

I have a neighbor who is racist, he'll die soon anyway...because he's old.

He's also a sexist and if he tries to make comment about my ass in front of my kids again he might die of something other than old age......
Yootopia
19-01-2009, 17:04
Who else has to deal with this kind of thing year in and year out?
Don't live with them.
Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?
Dunno mate.
Sarzonia
19-01-2009, 17:06
I might simply respond to their use of the n-word by saying, "well one ****** is about to be sworn in as president, so shut the fuck up."

But I second Yootopia's suggestion. Move. out. now.
Dylsexic Untied
19-01-2009, 17:13
and disappear for an extended period of time within the next week its because I got pushed over the edge and committed a homicide, I'll either be on the run or incarcerated and on my way to serving life in prison.

There are some very racist members of my family and Martin Luther King Day week is already a bad week, plus we are inaugurating our first not white president. Its not even halfway through MLK Day and I already am sick of the word ******, but no matter how many times I ask or tell them to quit they persist. *urge to kill rising*

To keep this thread from being bloggy spam:

Who else has to deal with this kind of thing year in and year out?

Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?
Never seen Snatch?
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:13
Don't live with them.


I second Yootopia's suggestion. Move. out. now.

If only I had more money and less debts. Maybe I'll just go back to college.. hmmm
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:14
Never seen Snatch?

I don't have access to enough pigs.
Lunatic Goofballs
19-01-2009, 17:14
and disappear for an extended period of time within the next week its because I got pushed over the edge and committed a homicide, I'll either be on the run or incarcerated and on my way to serving life in prison.

There are some very racist members of my family and Martin Luther King Day week is already a bad week, plus we are inaugurating our first not white president. Its not even halfway through MLK Day and I already am sick of the word ******, but no matter how many times I ask or tell them to quit they persist. *urge to kill rising*

To keep this thread from being bloggy spam:

Who else has to deal with this kind of thing year in and year out?

Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?

The best way to dispose of a human body is out to sea past the Continental Shelf. Bar none, that's top notch. That may not be doable for you. It's not quite as difficult as shooting one into space or tossing one into an active volcano, but it's still pretty tricky for some.

Might I also suggest that attempting to hide the corpse confirms you knew the difference between right and wrong. If you intend to plead temporary insanity, it might kill two birds with one stone to kill one and display his or her head on a pike to discourage others from pissing you off.

:)
Exilia and Colonies
19-01-2009, 17:14
If only I had more money and less debts. Maybe I'll just go back to college.. hmmm

Plan fail.
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 17:16
Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?

It's against the forum rules for us to give you this sort of advice.
Kryozerkia
19-01-2009, 17:16
You could just make a corpse pile, burn the bodies and pour the ashes into a river. A raging river is good.

....what? Why are you looking at me like that?

So... ok, maybe I have been playing a little too much Phoenix Wright... :$
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 17:17
You could just make a corpse pile, burn the bodies and pour the ashes into a river.

....what? Why are you looking at me like that?

because if I gave actual advice on the subject, you would hand me a yellow card...:p
Yootopia
19-01-2009, 17:18
Plan fail.
Quite. I thought US house prices had died on their knees. Get a cheap one when you can.
South Lorenya
19-01-2009, 17:18
and disappear for an extended period of time within the next week its because I got pushed over the edge and committed a homicide, I'll either be on the run or incarcerated and on my way to serving life in prison.

There are some very racist members of my family and Martin Luther King Day week is already a bad week, plus we are inaugurating our first not white president. Its not even halfway through MLK Day and I already am sick of the word ******, but no matter how many times I ask or tell them to quit they persist. *urge to kill rising*

To keep this thread from being bloggy spam:

Who else has to deal with this kind of thing year in and year out?

Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?

Homicide is going too far; just disown those sorry excuses for human beings. Aftre all, it's not like you WANT to be related to david duke wannabes...
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:19
You could just make a corpse pile, burn the bodies and pour the ashes into a river.

Hmm.. yes..

....what? Why are you looking at me like that?So... ok, maybe I have been playing a little too much Phoenix Wright... :$

Because I'm madly in love with you right this second. I won't hold playing too many games against anyone.
Kryozerkia
19-01-2009, 17:20
because if I gave actual advice on the subject, you would hand me a yellow card...:p

Here's the thing. We're talking in vague terms. It's a body. We know anything about it other than it's a body and the body once belonged to a person that pissed off SaintB. Also, if there was a problem, I would have shut the thread and not responded. :tongue:

Hmm.. yes..

Because I'm madly in love with you right this second. I won't hold playing too many games against anyone.

:D That's good because I enjoy the blood and guts in Age of Conan and it's the only reason I play it. I love killing the enemy using traditional weapons like bow and arrows; polearms... there's something satisfying about impaling a guy. Would I do it in real life? Nope, but it doesn't stop me in a virtual world.

reading a lot of fiction is another way to get a good idea of how to dispose a body. Some murder mystery writers have excellent ideas on the matter. :)
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:21
It's against the forum rules for us to give you this sort of advice.

No offense intended when I say: You probably already have experience with this rule?:p
Lunatic Goofballs
19-01-2009, 17:21
It's against the forum rules for us to give you this sort of advice.

You could just make a corpse pile, burn the bodies and pour the ashes into a river. A raging river is good.

....what? Why are you looking at me like that?

So... ok, maybe I have been playing a little too much Phoenix Wright... :$

Interesting,
Katganistan
19-01-2009, 17:22
How old are you, and how soon before you can get your own place?
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:23
The best way to dispose of a human body is out to sea past the Continental Shelf. Bar none, that's top notch. That may not be doable for you. It's not quite as difficult as shooting one into space or tossing one into an active volcano, but it's still pretty tricky for some.

I could test out the prototype for a mass driver I stole from that physicist...

Might I also suggest that attempting to hide the corpse confirms you knew the difference between right and wrong. If you intend to plead temporary insanity, it might kill two birds with one stone to kill one and display his or her head on a pike to discourage others from pissing you off.

:)

I've even got a sword, that just might work!
Katganistan
19-01-2009, 17:24
I was worried by the thread title.....but then I read and now I'm not so scared. LOL

Please don't kill the racists.....it'll only make a mess.

I have a neighbor who is racist, he'll die soon anyway...because he's old.

He's also a sexist and if he tries to make comment about my ass in front of my kids again he might die of something other than old age......
Just make one back about his shriveled little pickle and blueberries. I don't think he'll feel like making remarks about your ass any more.
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:25
How old are you, and how soon before you can get your own place?

24, I am forced to live with my parents because I can not sustain myself off my current income and pay my college loans off at the same time; I have already deferred them several times to.
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 17:26
No offense intended when I say: You probably already have experience with this rule?:p

No, but it was made clear a while back that encouraging or advising on illegal activity could get you banned. Since I've been bounced for virtually every other reason...

I would also make the point that you're not the kind to kill - and if you did, you would very likely be caught, because you would lack the ability to plan it out.

You need a certain lack of remorse, etc.
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:27
:D That's good because I enjoy the blood and guts in Age of Conan and it's the only reason I play it. I love killing the enemy using traditional weapons like bow and arrows; polearms... there's something satisfying about impaling a guy. Would I do it in real life? Nope, but it doesn't stop me in a virtual world.

reading a lot of fiction is another way to get a good idea of how to dispose a body. Some murder mystery writers have excellent ideas on the matter. :)

You might want to quit typing now before I really do fall madly in love :p.

But to be serious.. you should see my collection of video/tabletop/board/browser games and you will know why I can't hold it against anyone :p.
Katganistan
19-01-2009, 17:27
24, I am forced to live with my parents because I can not sustain myself off my current income and pay my college loans off at the same time; I have already deferred them several times to.
*nod* I know how that is.
Roommates, maybe? or retreat into your room with some headphones on until the end of 2012? ;)
Oh and watch Blazing Saddles. With the sound turned WAAAAAY up.

"THE PRESIDENT'S A..." BONNNNNNNNNNNNNG!!!!
"Where's all the white women at?"

They'll love it. ;)
Kryozerkia
19-01-2009, 17:30
You might want to quit typing now before I really do fall madly in love :p.

But to be serious.. you should see my collection of video/tabletop/board/browser games and you will know why I can't hold it against anyone :p.

Books - especially manga *cough*BattleRoyale*cough* - could have the same effect as any type of deliciously violent game. Of course, when I write, my preferred way of dealing with bodies is to leave it in a ditch. :D
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:30
No, but it was made clear a while back that encouraging or advising on illegal activity could get you banned. Since I've been bounced for virtually every other reason...

I would also make the point that you're not the kind to kill - and if you did, you would very likely be caught, because you would lack the ability to plan it out.

You need a certain lack of remorse, etc.

You're right, but what a lot of people don't know is I actually have anger management problems. Well.. at least I will develop them along with a case of psychosis brought on by stress (already diagnosed with stress related depression :cool:)
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:32
*nod* I know how that is.
Roommates, maybe? or retreat into your room with some headphones on until the end of 2012? ;)
Oh and watch Blazing Saddles. With the sound turned WAAAAAY up.

"THE PRESIDENT'S A..." BONNNNNNNNNNNNNG!!!!
"Where's all the white women at?"

They'll love it. ;)

I do so love that movie...
Sarzonia
19-01-2009, 17:37
Maybe you could qualify for Section 8 housing? Food stamps? Look into those. Lord knows I have to look into the latter because of my job situation...
Muravyets
19-01-2009, 17:38
Oh, ye gods, I so feel your pain. Sadly but fortunately, the real bigots in my family are dying off. The passage of time is a good thing.

My grandmother was one of those "I met a person. He/she was a <insert race, religion and/or ethnic group>, but a nice one." That became a joke between my mom and me.

My grandfather was a real piece of work. Not so much a racist as a raging anti-Semite and an even more raging sexist. I think he used to attack women at the dinner table more than Jews because he had this crazy notion that the women in the family (who outnumbered him) wouldn't talk back to him. How he got that notion, considering how many times in a night he got shot down, I have no idea. Crazy? Stupid? Both?

I agree with Kat. Put "Blazing Saddles" on a continuous loop for Inauguration Day, like TNT does with "A Christmas Story" on Christmas Eve. You can create a whole new presidential tradition. :D

"'Scuse me while I whip this out."
"Aaaaagh!...Oh."

:D
JuNii
19-01-2009, 17:38
just mentally laugh at them when they are forced to have their world view re-adjusted!
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:45
just mentally laugh at them when they are forced to have their world view re-adjusted!

Mandatory re socialization for all racists....

*Puts that on his things to do when I rule the world list*
SaintB
19-01-2009, 17:46
Oh, ye gods, I so feel your pain. Sadly but fortunately, the real bigots in my family are dying off. The passage of time is a good thing.

My grandmother was one of those "I met a person. He/she was a <insert race, religion and/or ethnic group>, but a nice one." That became a joke between my mom and me.

My grandfather was a real piece of work. Not so much a racist as a raging anti-Semite and an even more raging sexist. I think he used to attack women at the dinner table more than Jews because he had this crazy notion that the women in the family (who outnumbered him) wouldn't talk back to him. How he got that notion, considering how many times in a night he got shot down, I have no idea. Crazy? Stupid? Both?

I agree with Kat. Put "Blazing Saddles" on a continuous loop for Inauguration Day, like TNT does with "A Christmas Story" on Christmas Eve. You can create a whole new presidential tradition. :D

"'Scuse me while I whip this out."
"Aaaaagh!...Oh."

:D

Like TNT does with A Christmas Story, but enjoyable.
The Cat-Tribe
19-01-2009, 17:51
and disappear for an extended period of time within the next week its because I got pushed over the edge and committed a homicide, I'll either be on the run or incarcerated and on my way to serving life in prison.

There are some very racist members of my family and Martin Luther King Day week is already a bad week, plus we are inaugurating our first not white president. Its not even halfway through MLK Day and I already am sick of the word ******, but no matter how many times I ask or tell them to quit they persist. *urge to kill rising*

To keep this thread from being bloggy spam:

Who else has to deal with this kind of thing year in and year out?

Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?

What can you do?

Take the Skinheads Bowling! (video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDB9oCgVHGw), lyrics (http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/camper_van_beethoven/take_the_skinheads_bowling.html)) :wink:

Seriously, I have had this problem with relatives that I otherwise like, particulary when it comes to relations with Native American tribes. Other than politely stand up for human dignity and equality, you probably just have to grin and bear it.
JuNii
19-01-2009, 18:03
*nod* I know how that is.
Roommates, maybe? or retreat into your room with some headphones on until the end of 2012? ;)
Oh and watch Blazing Saddles. With the sound turned WAAAAAY up.

"THE PRESIDENT'S A..." BONNNNNNNNNNNNNG!!!!
"Where's all the white women at?"

They'll love it. ;)

^this^
Peepelonia
19-01-2009, 18:30
and disappear for an extended period of time within the next week its because I got pushed over the edge and committed a homicide, I'll either be on the run or incarcerated and on my way to serving life in prison.

There are some very racist members of my family and Martin Luther King Day week is already a bad week, plus we are inaugurating our first not white president. Its not even halfway through MLK Day and I already am sick of the word ******, but no matter how many times I ask or tell them to quit they persist. *urge to kill rising*

To keep this thread from being bloggy spam:

Who else has to deal with this kind of thing year in and year out?

Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?

Heh Saint, I used to have massive anger issues now days I don't.
SaintB
19-01-2009, 18:45
What can you do?

Take the Skinheads Bowling! (video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDB9oCgVHGw), lyrics (http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/c/camper_van_beethoven/take_the_skinheads_bowling.html)) :wink:

Seriously, I have had this problem with relatives that I otherwise like, particulary when it comes to relations with Native American tribes. Other than politely stand up for human dignity and equality, you probably just have to grin and bear it.

Yes, take the skinheads bowling and then leave them at the alley :p
Intangelon
19-01-2009, 19:21
I was worried by the thread title.....but then I read and now I'm not so scared. LOL

Please don't kill the racists.....it'll only make a mess.

I have a neighbor who is racist, he'll die soon anyway...because he's old.

He's also a sexist and if he tries to make comment about my ass in front of my kids again he might die of something other than old age......

Hey, you can't fault your neighbor for having good perception and excellent taste, can you? Just another way to look at it, though commenting on what surely must be a work of art in front of your kids is just plain juvenile. Teach your youngest to punch him in the junk. Tell the neighbor your grandfather was a boxer and you were watching video of some of his bouts from back in the day.
Anti-Social Darwinism
19-01-2009, 19:27
I was worried by the thread title.....but then I read and now I'm not so scared. LOL

Please don't kill the racists.....it'll only make a mess.

I have a neighbor who is racist, he'll die soon anyway...because he's old.

He's also a sexist and if he tries to make comment about my ass in front of my kids again he might die of something other than old age......

Just tell him that you're surprised he was still able to notice, much less do or say anything.
Mirkana
19-01-2009, 19:40
May I suggest thermite? A decent quantity of thermite should completely destroy the body, leaving only ashes which can be disposed of at your local landfill.

I'm fortunate that none of my family are raging racists. This probably has to do with my parents being ardent egalitarians. I'm similar, only more militant than they are.
Mad hatters in jeans
19-01-2009, 19:45
Well find target, get baseball bat, hit, pull away into bushes, make sure person is dead, chop up body into bits, bury parts in different areas in a number of abandoned fields, or drop off corpse in a desert. job done...
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 19:49
1. Go to Home Depot
2. Buy 1 x 50 pound sack of sulfur
3. Buy 1 x 50 pound sack of quicklime
4. Buy 1 x 5-gallon water container (empty)
5. Buy 1 pickaxe
6. Buy 1 shovel
7. Buy 1 package large garden trash bags
8. Buy 1 roll duct tape
9. Buy 1 pair of pliers

Wrap body thoroughly in trashbags, using duct tape to secure plastic bags.
Fill the 5 gallon water container with water.
Place body in trunk of car - drive to remote rural location far from any body of water

Dig hole 1 meter wide, 3 meters long, 2 meters deep.

Remove body from trunk. Unwrap and remove all plastic. Remove all clothing, jewelry, shoes, from body. Using pliers, pull all teeth. Set teeth aside.

Place naked body in the hole. Pour the contents of the sulfur and lime over the body.

Pour contents of water container over the body - then start filling in the hole with dirt.

In fairly short order, there won't be enough of the body or skeleton left to make a DNA analysis possible.

As to the teeth - dispose of in a nearby river, one tooth at a time, preferably dropping them from the center span of a bridge. It helps to smash them up with a hammer first.

Burn the remains of the plastic bags and duct tape.

In a remote place, set fire to the car, starting with the trunk.
Mad hatters in jeans
19-01-2009, 19:54
1. Go to Home Depot
2. Buy 1 x 50 pound sack of sulfur
3. Buy 1 x 50 pound sack of quicklime
4. Buy 1 x 5-gallon water container (empty)
5. Buy 1 pickaxe
6. Buy 1 shovel
7. Buy 1 package large garden trash bags
8. Buy 1 roll duct tape
9. Buy 1 pair of pliers

Wrap body thoroughly in trashbags, using duct tape to secure plastic bags.
Fill the 5 gallon water container with water.
Place body in trunk of car - drive to remote rural location far from any body of water

Dig hole 1 meter wide, 3 meters long, 2 meters deep.

Remove body from trunk. Unwrap and remove all plastic. Remove all clothing, jewelry, shoes, from body. Using pliers, pull all teeth. Set teeth aside.

Place naked body in the hole. Pour the contents of the sulfur and lime over the body.

Pour contents of water container over the body - then start filling in the hole with dirt.

In fairly short order, there won't be enough of the body or skeleton left to make a DNA analysis possible.

As to the teeth - dispose of in a nearby river, one tooth at a time, preferably dropping them from the center span of a bridge. It helps to smash them up with a hammer first.

Burn the remains of the plastic bags and duct tape.

In a remote place, set fire to the car, starting with the trunk.

The fire would alert the local law enforcement and how would you explain your car burning to a nosey policeman? that you forgot about the car? All they'd have to do is ask about for suspicious items bought at the stores...man this burying a dead body thing is really tricky.
Skallvia
19-01-2009, 19:58
You have no Idea........:rolleyes:..

As per the topic...Make sure you wear Latex Gloves and a Ski Mask, and cover all portions of your body, make sure to leave no trace anywhere near the crime scene or the victim him/herself, dont leave your gun, always a classic mistake...Throw the body in a Random Ditch outside your state...
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 19:59
The fire would alert the local law enforcement and how would you explain your car burning to a nosey policeman? that you forgot about the car? All they'd have to do is ask about for suspicious items bought at the stores...man this burying a dead body thing is really tricky.

If you're burning your car in the middle of nowhere like you're supposed to...

It's also not supposed to be your own car. Use some common sense.

Stolen, burned out car, found in a place like East St. Louis, or Anacostia, Maryland. The cops will really not give a shit.

Pay cash at the store. It looks like common gardening stuff.
Mad hatters in jeans
19-01-2009, 20:00
Okay i'm scared now.
Katganistan
19-01-2009, 20:03
Latex gloves bad. They leave fingerprints.
New Kereptica
19-01-2009, 20:04
Wear like 4 then.
Mirkana
19-01-2009, 20:10
Here's another idea: Place the remains in a large net. Firmly secure said net to the bottom of a murky river.
Anti-Social Darwinism
19-01-2009, 20:12
Are there any old, flooded mine shafts near you? The water in the shafts is full of chemicals which could cause some nice alterations to body chemistry, creating difficulties with determining time of death, and, in some cases, cause of death.

If so, do the following.

Buy a nondescript car in a name other than your own. Stock the car with non-perishable food, blankets and money. Hide it about a mile from the mineshaft.

Find a poison that mimics heart failure, metabolizes quickly and won't show on a regular tox-screen. There are a number of them, you can research them at the library (so it won't show up on your computer records). Administer said poison at a family meal. When all your family members finally succumb, do not call 911, load them in the largest vehicle you have, like a van (make sure the tires on the van are generic and not easily traced. Wait until dark. At full dark, get your previously procured bucket of pinon pine pitch (it's a particularly good accelerant, and not easily detected) and strew it about the house, particularly near the fireplace, light it on fire, thus destroying evidence. Make your way swiftly to the van and drive it to the mineshaft. Drive right up to the edge, put the van in neutral, crack the windows about an inch, exit, push the van into the shaft. Make your way to the hidden car, hide in car, wait until first light and drive to the next state, or, if possible to Mexico or Canada.

What!? I write mysteries, so far none have been published. Probably never will be.
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 20:13
Okay i'm scared now.

Of what?
Mirkana
19-01-2009, 20:16
We need to sticky this thread as a warning to trolls.
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 20:17
Okay i'm scared now.

I can't fuckin' believe you. Now, you're gonna dig the fuckin' thing now. You're gonna dig the hole. You're gonna do it. I got no fuckin' lime. You're gonna do it.
Kryozerkia
19-01-2009, 21:09
Hm... quite detailed. I gather you're well versed in the disposal of human carcases, eh? :tongue: Still... it's good to know... ;)
No Names Left Damn It
19-01-2009, 21:13
It's Martin Luther King Day? And you have a whole week in honour of him?
No Names Left Damn It
19-01-2009, 21:14
1. Go to Home Depot
2. Buy 1 x 50 pound sack of sulfur
3. Buy 1 x 50 pound sack of quicklime
4. Buy 1 x 5-gallon water container (empty)
5. Buy 1 pickaxe
6. Buy 1 shovel
7. Buy 1 package large garden trash bags
8. Buy 1 roll duct tape
9. Buy 1 pair of pliers

Wrap body thoroughly in trashbags, using duct tape to secure plastic bags.
Fill the 5 gallon water container with water.
Place body in trunk of car - drive to remote rural location far from any body of water

Dig hole 1 meter wide, 3 meters long, 2 meters deep.

Remove body from trunk. Unwrap and remove all plastic. Remove all clothing, jewelry, shoes, from body. Using pliers, pull all teeth. Set teeth aside.

Place naked body in the hole. Pour the contents of the sulfur and lime over the body.

Pour contents of water container over the body - then start filling in the hole with dirt.

In fairly short order, there won't be enough of the body or skeleton left to make a DNA analysis possible.

As to the teeth - dispose of in a nearby river, one tooth at a time, preferably dropping them from the center span of a bridge. It helps to smash them up with a hammer first.

Burn the remains of the plastic bags and duct tape.

In a remote place, set fire to the car, starting with the trunk.

Quicklime, when used on a dead body, slows down decomposition.
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 21:15
Quicklime, when used on a dead body, slows down decomposition.

That's why there's sulfur and water. It's a violent exothermic reaction.
Bokkiwokki
19-01-2009, 21:19
Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?

Eat it. There's plenty of nice recipes around.
Mad hatters in jeans
19-01-2009, 21:21
Are there any old, flooded mine shafts near you? The water in the shafts is full of chemicals which could cause some nice alterations to body chemistry, creating difficulties with determining time of death, and, in some cases, cause of death.

If so, do the following.

Buy a nondescript car in a name other than your own. Stock the car with non-perishable food, blankets and money. Hide it about a mile from the mineshaft.

Find a poison that mimics heart failure, metabolizes quickly and won't show on a regular tox-screen. There are a number of them, you can research them at the library (so it won't show up on your computer records). Administer said poison at a family meal. When all your family members finally succumb, do not call 911, load them in the largest vehicle you have, like a van (make sure the tires on the van are generic and not easily traced. Wait until dark. At full dark, get your previously procured bucket of pinon pine pitch (it's a particularly good accelerant, and not easily detected) and strew it about the house, particularly near the fireplace, light it on fire, thus destroying evidence. Make your way swiftly to the van and drive it to the mineshaft. Drive right up to the edge, put the van in neutral, crack the windows about an inch, exit, push the van into the shaft. Make your way to the hidden car, hide in car, wait until first light and drive to the next state, or, if possible to Mexico or Canada.

What!? I write mysteries, so far none have been published. Probably never will be.
Would a quarry do the trick? a number of those dotted around Scotland.

A family meal? That would make it pretty easy to trace to you, if you're going to off a whole family wouldn't you take them one by one to a tour of a mineshaft because you like the 'scenery', then knock them out and administer the poison, saves a lot of the whole making a meal thing.
Of what?
Oh just you know, the whole calculated killing people thing, planned out itinery, burn out abandoned car and such because it probably would work too.
I can't fuckin' believe you. Now, you're gonna dig the fuckin' thing now. You're gonna dig the hole. You're gonna do it. I got no fuckin' lime. You're gonna do it.
:eek:
Mirkana
19-01-2009, 21:22
Eat it. There's plenty of nice recipes around.

Better yet, feed them to the cops.
Anti-Social Darwinism
19-01-2009, 21:28
Would a quarry do the trick? a number of those dotted around Scotland.

A family meal? That would make it pretty easy to trace to you, if you're going to off a whole family wouldn't you take them one by one to a tour of a mineshaft because you like the 'scenery', then knock them out and administer the poison, saves a lot of the whole making a meal thing.

Oh just you know, the whole calculated killing people thing, planned out itinery, burn out abandoned car and such because it probably would work too.

:eek:

While a quarry might do if nothing else is available, they're open and easily accessible to wandering children and people looking for make-out space, so too public. Mineshafts are closed and deep.

I still like the family meal idea. For one thing, it gets it done all at once instead of dragging it out over a period of time - besides, how do you explain individuals going missing over time? After loading the bodies in the van (this is essential, the vehicle has weight which will keep the bodies from floating), you clean up the remains of the meal (garbage disposals are neat for this), set the fire to destroy the remaining evidence. People might question where a whole bunch of people (including you) went, but it would take time to track things down. Meantime, you, having changed your identity, are away, free and clear.
Mad hatters in jeans
19-01-2009, 21:36
While a quarry might do if nothing else is available, they're open and easily accessible to wandering children and people looking for make-out space, so too public. Mineshafts are closed and deep.

I still like the family meal idea. For one thing, it gets it done all at once instead of dragging it out over a period of time - besides, how do you explain individuals going missing over time? After loading the bodies in the van (this is essential, the vehicle has weight which will keep the bodies from floating), you clean up the remains of the meal (garbage disposals are neat for this), set the fire to destroy the remaining evidence. People might question where a whole bunch of people (including you) went, but it would take time to track things down. Meantime, you, having changed your identity, are away, free and clear.
But if you administer the poison individually you have more time to make sure it's done properly...You could explain people going missing over time by saying they wanted to go for a walk around for a while as you take more people with you, thus the suspence builds up for the killer to make sure their operations are hidden.
But if you have a biiig family you'd have to off maybe 5-15 people in one go, and what happens if the van just doesn't fit in the mine shaft?
And the police would soon figure out, after missing notices are brought out on a family except one person who has mysteriously vanished, would they not be able to track you down with ease? there's only so much you could do to affect your appearence and unless you have a tidy fortune saved away, it would take time to forge your new identity. where would you go?
Anti-Social Darwinism
19-01-2009, 21:39
But if you administer the poison individually you have more time to make sure it's done properly...You could explain people going missing over time by saying they wanted to go for a walk around for a while as you take more people with you, thus the suspence builds up for the killer to make sure their operations are hidden.
But if you have a biiig family you'd have to off maybe 5-15 people in one go, and what happens if the van just doesn't fit in the mine shaft?
And the police would soon figure out, after missing notices are brought out on a family except one person who has mysteriously vanished, would they not be able to track you down with ease? there's only so much you could do to affect your appearence and unless you have a tidy fortune saved away, it would take time to forge your new identity. where would you go?

These things take planning, that's why you do your research, set up your new identity, make sure of the dimensions of the mineshaft and plot your escape route well in advance. Besides, they have to find the bodies to prove anything.
Wilgrove
19-01-2009, 21:39
Ugh, my mom side of the family. I swear, the more time I spend with them, the more I feel like I'm on the set of Jerry Springer. I have one Uncle who is in his 30s or 40s all he talks about are the "niggers" that he meet while trucking. Then of course there's my grandparents who grew up in the Jim Crow era.

I also delt with religious bigotry and I think my mom side of the family would blow up in a rage of fury if they found out I support gay marriages.
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 21:39
But if you administer the poison individually you have more time to make sure it's done properly...You could explain people going missing over time by saying they wanted to go for a walk around for a while as you take more people with you, thus the suspence builds up for the killer to make sure their operations are hidden.
But if you have a biiig family you'd have to off maybe 5-15 people in one go, and what happens if the van just doesn't fit in the mine shaft?
And the police would soon figure out, after missing notices are brought out on a family except one person who has mysteriously vanished, would they not be able to track you down with ease? there's only so much you could do to affect your appearence and unless you have a tidy fortune saved away, it would take time to forge your new identity. where would you go?

You don't need poison. All you need is an icepick.
Fighter4u
19-01-2009, 21:40
I quote Sherlock Holmes here. The more complex the crime, the more clues that are lefted behind. The murders that NEVER get solved are the ramdom killings, the shootings on the street, just kill them on a deserted street one ramdom day or in a drive by at night. Such their no evidence and thats that.
Anti-Social Darwinism
19-01-2009, 21:42
I quote Sherlock Holmes here. The more complex the crime, the more clues that are lefted behind. The murders that NEVER get solved are the ramdom killings, the shootings on the street, just kill them on a deserted street one ramdom day or in a drive by at night. Such their no evidence and thats that.

Do you think that randomly killing members of the same family, leaving one alive, will go unnoticed?
Fighter4u
19-01-2009, 21:45
Do you think that randomly killing members of the same family, leaving one alive, will go unnoticed?

Yeah, that why I assuming you have a good friend to back up where you were when the murder took place. Besides I doubt the cops would ever guess SanitB motive....unless they look here of coruse....
JuNii
19-01-2009, 21:45
Do you think that randomly killing members of the same family, leaving one alive, will go unnoticed?

not unless the last familymember kills his assailant while dying...
Anti-Social Darwinism
19-01-2009, 21:46
Yeah, that why I assuming you have a good friend to back up where you were when the murder took place. Besides I doubt the cops would ever guess SanitB motive....unless they look here of coruse....

I suspect that if they look here, I'll have more problems than SaintB.
Gun Manufacturers
19-01-2009, 21:47
May I suggest thermite? A decent quantity of thermite should completely destroy the body, leaving only ashes which can be disposed of at your local landfill....

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!! :eek:




:tongue:
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 21:47
not unless the last familymember kills his assailant while dying...

Not likely if the assailant has one of these

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/DSC_0060.jpg
Gun Manufacturers
19-01-2009, 21:48
Well find target, get baseball bat, hit, pull away into bushes, make sure person is dead, chop up body into bits, bury parts in different areas in a number of abandoned fields, or drop off corpse in a desert. job done...

Haven't you ever watched NCIS or CSI? Meat puzzles and dropping them off in the desert never works.
Fighter4u
19-01-2009, 21:49
Well if your in Florida you can feel the body to the crocs.

Maybe a trip to Disney World is in order?
Anti-Social Darwinism
19-01-2009, 21:50
Haven't you ever watched NCIS or CSI? Meat puzzles and dropping them off in the desert never works.

You have to hide the bodies, with the realization that, eventually they will be found.

The issue is not to keep the bodies from being found, but to keep them from being found long enough to get away.
Gun Manufacturers
19-01-2009, 21:51
Here's another idea: Place the remains in a large net. Firmly secure said net to the bottom of a murky river.

Too risky. First time someone drops anchor near the net, you're risking it snagging the net.
Mad hatters in jeans
19-01-2009, 21:52
These things take planning, that's why you do your research, set up your new identity, make sure of the dimensions of the mineshaft and plot your escape route well in advance. Besides, they have to find the bodies to prove anything.
yes, but if the family have been missing for a time the police will soon start looking around and asking questions. I mean forging a new identity would be a mammoth task surely?
You don't need poison. All you need is an icepick.
Oh i was going along with Anti-Social Darwinism's method of murder.
I quote Sherlock Holmes here. The more complex the crime, the more clues that are lefted behind. The murders that NEVER get solved are the ramdom killings, the shootings on the street, just kill them on a deserted street one ramdom day or in a drive by at night. Such their no evidence and thats that.
Well except the murders that are unsolved because they're so complex or the detectives in charge have to drop the case too soon perhaps due to lack of leads, but with a little more time they could find them.
Do you think that randomly killing members of the same family, leaving one alive, will go unnoticed?
It could if you made it look as though they died of natural causes, in fact it would make their deaths seem more plausable, with different modes of death for each of them the police would be hard pressed to link them, with one method of execution all they have to do is link it to you and you're going to have to work harder.

Perhaps get to one after a vicious argument (who was arguing with someone else) then make it look like a suicide.
The person who argued with them you then hit in a drive by posing as another family member (with fake mask of someone you don't like, maybe a boss you hate or something).
As the funerals for these two poor souls occur drink a toast, poison the alcoholic drink and kill off the large congregation (bearing in mind a large number of family will be bound to make these funerals), fake your own suicide, and take up your new identity as a private detective, completely throwing the police off your tracks.
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 21:52
You have to hide the bodies, with the realization that, eventually they will be found.

The issue is not to keep the bodies from being found, but to keep them from being found long enough to get away.

If you're near a steel works, they have large tanks of 18 M sulfuric acid.

Drop the body into that, and there's not going to be a body.

Same with the sulfur/lime/water treatment - you're going to treat the body to something that eliminates it as a source of DNA or bone analysis.

Sure, someone will find a body - but whose? They'll never fucking know.
Fighter4u
19-01-2009, 21:54
Well except the murders that are unsolved because they're so complex or the detectives in charge have to drop the case too soon perhaps due to lack of leads, but with a little more time they could find them.




That why my method works better in some ramdom place when it just one person. A family is much tricker to kill.
Chumblywumbly
19-01-2009, 21:56
Sure, someone will find a body - but whose? They'll never fucking know.
Lester Freamon will find the body, and then you're screwed.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/images/2008/01/21/lester.jpg
Hotwife
19-01-2009, 21:59
Lester Freamon will find the body, and then you're screwed.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/images/2008/01/21/lester.jpg

Yeah, if only police had the success rates that you see on TV... nowhere close...
Chumblywumbly
19-01-2009, 22:01
Yeah, if only police had the success rates that you see on TV... nowhere close...
The various police in The Wire have fairly realistic (i.e. shitty) success rates.
JuNii
19-01-2009, 22:18
Not likely if the assailant has one of these

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b283/jtkwon/DSC_0060.jpg

*sigh*

if the second to last family member kills the "assailant" while dying, then chances are the police won't look further for a killer (which would probably be someone else.)
Fighter4u
19-01-2009, 22:32
*sigh*

if the second to last family member kills the "assailant" while dying, then chances are the police won't look further for a killer (which would probably be someone else.)

Wicked idea. Those then you have to get a homeless guy to be the assailant. Who really you pay five bucks to walk over to where the dead bodys are and killed him from the point on the ground the "second to last" family member body is. Then put the gun in their hands.

Now the details would have to be worked out. But I think you got a plan their.

JuNii & Fighter Murder Inco?
One-O-One
19-01-2009, 22:48
and disappear for an extended period of time within the next week its because I got pushed over the edge and committed a homicide, I'll either be on the run or incarcerated and on my way to serving life in prison.

There are some very racist members of my family and Martin Luther King Day week is already a bad week, plus we are inaugurating our first not white president. Its not even halfway through MLK Day and I already am sick of the word ******, but no matter how many times I ask or tell them to quit they persist. *urge to kill rising*

To keep this thread from being bloggy spam:

Who else has to deal with this kind of thing year in and year out?

Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?

I'm partial to sodium hydroxide myself, and use a "oxygen cleaner" (http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20026814.200-why-hair-bleach-is-a-murderers-best-friend.html) to get the blood, because apparently that gets rid of the evidence properly.
One-O-One
19-01-2009, 23:00
Well if your in Flordia you can feel the body to the crocs.

Maybe a trip to Disney World is in order?

That's in Florida right? Then you could make your way to Cuba. Awesome.
One-O-One
19-01-2009, 23:02
yes, but if the family have been missing for a time the police will soon start looking around and asking questions. I mean forging a new identity would be a mammoth task surely?

Oh i was going along with Anti-Social Darwinism's method of murder.

Well except the murders that are unsolved because they're so complex or the detectives in charge have to drop the case too soon perhaps due to lack of leads, but with a little more time they could find them.

It could if you made it look as though they died of natural causes, in fact it would make their deaths seem more plausable, with different modes of death for each of them the police would be hard pressed to link them, with one method of execution all they have to do is link it to you and you're going to have to work harder.

Perhaps get to one after a vicious argument (who was arguing with someone else) then make it look like a suicide.
The person who argued with them you then hit in a drive by posing as another family member (with fake mask of someone you don't like, maybe a boss you hate or something).
As the funerals for these two poor souls occur drink a toast, poison the alcoholic drink and kill off the large congregation (bearing in mind a large number of family will be bound to make these funerals), fake your own suicide, and take up your new identity as a private detective, completely throwing the police off your tracks.

Remember, not cynanide. The alcohol makes it not work, as per Rasputin.
Risottia
19-01-2009, 23:45
There are some very racist members of my family ...


Who else has to deal with this kind of thing year in and year out?

Whats a good way to dispose of a human body?

While I'm heading to work on the tram, I have to cope with Northerners complaining about the Southerners, Southerners complaining about "maroqui" and "niggers", Pilipinos complaining about Arabs and Turks, Arabs and Turks and Chinese complaining about something else (but I don't understand them)... "nice" housewives with kids telling "we've got to deport the gypsies outta here", the occasional neonazi youngsters telling "let's kill off the Jews AND the Palestinians" etc etc...

I merely focus my mind on a project. Like what I call "Il Grande Cannone" (the Big Gun). Calibre two - two meters, I mean. Aimed at idiots. Nice...

Anyway, the roman mobsters of the Banda della Magliana used to feed corpses to the pigs. Very little is left. And the sicilian mafia used acid.
Smunkeeville
19-01-2009, 23:57
You have to hide the bodies, with the realization that, eventually they will be found.

The issue is not to keep the bodies from being found, but to keep them from being found long enough to get away.

True, and left with very little evidence connecting them to you. Don't carve a message into their backs......handwriting analysis and all.
Marrakech II
19-01-2009, 23:57
Wow, you guys are getting elaborate. Just take them on a cruise in the Carib and push them overboard at night. Very simple.
JuNii
20-01-2009, 00:00
Wow, you guys are getting elaborate. Just take them on a cruise in the Carib and push them overboard at night. Very simple.

It would work if he had a family of say... two people. but I think it might be suspicious if 4 or more people started going over the railing...
Marrakech II
20-01-2009, 00:09
It would work if he had a family of say... two people. but I think it might be suspicious if 4 or more people started going over the railing...

Well he could at least get rid of half the problem.
German Nightmare
20-01-2009, 00:14
As Fargo and Bones have shown, this seems to be pretty effective.

http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/gore.gif

Time to feed the fishies some crackers!
Fighter4u
20-01-2009, 01:14
Wow, you guys are getting elaborate. Just take them on a cruise in the Carib and push them overboard at night. Very simple.

Thats NSG for ya! Plotting murder since 03!
SaintB
21-01-2009, 09:35
I like how people jumped straight to the velieris somes.