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Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

Poll coming.

Keep it you law breaker!

Stop right there criminal scum!

Drink the milk and get rid of the evidence!

I work at a place that could be labeled as a supermarket. Don't worry about it, more items get damaged in one day than items get stolen in one week. :p

Pay for it next time you go to the store. Don't waste calories going out of your way to pay bills of which the debtor's not aware.

That's a gateway crime you know. Today a gallon of milk, tomorrow you'll be beating up old ladies and stealing their purses.

Dont waste your time.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/brokein2/scum.jpg

Dont waste your time.

Yeah, there's nothing you can do now, just lay down on the floor with your hands on your head, and pray that when the special forces arrive, they treat you gently.

Yeah, there's nothing you can do now, just lay down on the floor with your hands on your head, and pray that when the special forces arrive, they treat you gently.

Lucky I wasn't riding the BART when I realised it was stolen goods.

Lucky I wasn't riding the BART when I realised it was stolen goods.

I lol'd.

I lol'd.

Good for you.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/brokein2/scum.jpg

I lol'd :D

*saves this thread for future blackmailing purposes*

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

Poll coming.

Stop! You violated the law. Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence. Your stolen goods are now forfeit. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_2Jduxc2P8)

Exchange it for some vegan oat-based milk. That way you'll do two moral things at once.

my rule on these things is that if im still at the store--including in the parking lot--i return it. otherwise i keep it and strive to not make the mistake again.

Pay for it next time you go to the store.

This should be good enough. Just swipe your next gallon of milk twice.

Incidentally, the fact that you seem unable to make a decision on this matter on your own, without asking a bunch of strangers on the Internet for advice, is a pretty good case as to why kids such as yourself should not be voting.

This should be good enough. Just swipe your next gallon of milk twice.

Incidentally, the fact that you seem unable to make a decision on this matter on your own, without asking a bunch of strangers on the Internet for advice, is a pretty good case as to why kids such as yourself should not be voting.

:rolleyes: Keep on topic please.

Especially as I already decided I wouldn't make the 3 KM round-trip which I'd have to walk, and try to explain and pay for it awkwardly. I thought it'd make a nice novelty thread.

Exchange it for some vegan oat-based milk. That way you'll do two moral things at once.

I'm pretty sure oats don't have nipples.

I'm pretty sure oats don't have nipples.

That's what they want you to think.

Exchange it for some vegan oat-based milk. That way you'll do two moral things at once.
That such things exist is a vile stain on humanity.

Anyway, keep the milk. Enjoy the milk. 75% of adults admit to shoplifting at some point in their lives, at least you've got an excuse.

Maybe I'm the wrong one to ask. When I found a package of lamb chops in my groceries that I hadn't paid for, I drove back to the store, tracked down the head cashier and made him ring them up. He kept looking at me as if I were an alien.

Maybe I'm the wrong one to ask. When I found a package of lamb chops in my groceries that I hadn't paid for, I drove back to the store, tracked down the head cashier and made him ring them up. He kept looking at me as if I were an alien.
He was probably just surprised that a cat was buying groceries at all.

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

Poll coming.

Dude, every time you go through that damn self checkout you better miss-swipe something otherwise the supermarket is just using you as an unpayed lackey in their scheme to cut costs.

Exchange it for some vegan oat-based milk. That way you'll do two moral things at once.

Lewis Black on Vegan Milk:

"There's no such thing as soy milk. It's soy juice. But they couldn't sell soy juice, so they called it soy milk. Because anytime you say soy juice, you actually... start to gag. Know how come I know there's no such thing as soy milk? Because there's no soy titty, is there?"

That's what they want you to think.

:eek:

Dude, every time you go through that damn self checkout you better miss-swipe something otherwise the supermarket is just using you as an unpayed lackey in their scheme to cut costs.

I trade that for convience though, I love not having to wait 5 minutes in line. I like being able to grab a bottle of Coke from the shelf, turn around, swipe, swipe EFTPOS card, and get the hell out of there in a couple of minutes.

I trade that for convience though, I love not having to wait 5 minutes in line. I like being able to grab a bottle of Coke from the shelf, turn around, swipe, swipe EFTPOS card, and get the hell out of there in a couple of minutes.

What about the old people in front of you? You know, who can't figure the machine out and have to scan that full cart of groceries three times and then wonder why nobody is bagging them. And once all that is said and done, now they've got to figure out how feed the machine bills even though they pressed the debit button instead.

What about the old people in front of you? You know, who can't figure the machine out and have to scan that full cart of groceries three times and then wonder why nobody is bagging them. And once all that is said and done, now they've got to figure out how feed the machine bills even though they pressed the debit button instead.

Ah, they have a person on staff frantically going around and being generally overbearing. Actually, I don't think they even got rid of anybody, they all just help out at the self-check out.

I'm pretty sure oats don't have nipples.

That's OK, a lot of us have weaned ourselves off mummy's teat so do not need to suckle any more. Also, oat-based milk substitute is healthier than regular milk and is completely lactose-free, so is suitable for the majority of humanity on this planet, which just happens to be lactose-intolerant.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/LacIntol-World2.png/800px-LacIntol-World2.png

That's OK, a lot of us have weaned ourselves off mummy's teat so do not need to suckle any more. Also, oat-based milk-substitute is healthier than regular milk and is completely lactose-free, so is suitable for the majority of humanaity on this planet, which just happens to be lactose-intolerant.

There is of course the pastuerisation thing, which aparently destroys some milk components which could possibly help us digest milk. The complication of bacteria, however, makes this iffy.

That's OK, a lot of us have weaned ourselves off mummy's teat so do not need to suckle any more. Also, oat-based milk substitute is healthier than regular milk and is completely lactose-free, so is suitable for the majority of humanity on this planet, which just happens to be lactose-intolerant.

But can you make ice cream out of it?

That's OK, a lot of us have weaned ourselves off mummy's teat so do not need to suckle any more. Also, oat-based milk-substitute is healthier than regular milk and is completely lactose-free, so is suitable for the majority of humanaity on this planet, which just happens to be lactose-intolerant.

Great...But it doesnt make it milk...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk

There is of course the pastuerisation thing, which aparently destroys some milk components which could possibly help us digest milk.

Pasteurisation does not change the concentration of lactose in milk (unless it is treated with an exogenous lactase, the heat increasing the enzyme's activity).

But can you make ice cream out of it?

Yes, yes you can. (http://www.oatly.com/webit/Websidor/visaSida.asp?idnr=L0CQYIBj8GBHrozEN94s1O9NcZWXL6PtNdsDMWT4G4XFuCQv2bPL7rDM7qWr)

Great...But it doesnt make it milk...

That's why it's better.

i dont see why anyone would drink oat juice, hemp juice, rice juice, soy juice, or any other milk substitute. if you dont want to drink real milk, DONT. whats the point of drinking milky colored substitutes?

Yes, yes you can. (http://www.oatly.com/webit/Websidor/visaSida.asp?idnr=L0CQYIBj8GBHrozEN94s1O9NcZWXL6PtNdsDMWT4G4XFuCQv2bPL7rDM7qWr)

Wow. So now I can have a big bowl of... oatmeal... for dessert.

i dont see why anyone would drink oat juice, hemp juice, rice juice, soy juice, or any other milk substitute. if you dont want to drink real milk, DONT. whats the point of drinking milky colored substitutes?

What's the point of drinking milk, at all? Usually, one cooks with the substitutes and can drink them if one likes.

Don't feel bad about it. So you stole some milk from the supermarket, but they stole it from a farmer who stole it from a cow.

If you'd paid for it, you would actually be financing the brutal practice of ... uh, dairy farming?

Now you should go steal a brand-new car, because by making car manufacture less profitable you will help the planet.

:confused:

Fuck it, everyone's done stuff like this before. If you're feeling honest enough and you think it will assuage your screaming conscience, then go and return the milk. You didn't nick it, it was a genuine accident. I'd personally chalk it up to that and get on with my day. But then I've not got the best sense of morals, so you may not wish to take my advice, as worthless as it is.

Wow. So now I can have a big bowl of... oatmeal... for dessert.

If your oatmeal is like that, you're making it in the wrong fashion. Rendering it liquid before you freeze it must also be murder on your elbows.

If your oatmeal is like that, you're making it in the wrong fashion.
You should see what happens when he tries to make waffles.

Pasteurisation does not change the concentration of lactose in milk (unless it is treated with an exogenous lactase, the heat increasing the enzyme's activity).

I meant biological components, not the carbohydrates. I'll check with Google.

YES. If you're lactose intolerant, you may have better luck with raw milk since its bacteria creates an enzyme called lactase that breaks down lactose. We did a survey of about 3,000 people, including 200 diagnosed with lactose intolerance, and 90 percent of that group had no problems drinking raw milk. Also, the rapid heating during pasteurization damages milk's very complex proteins, so when pasteurized milk is ingested, the body thinks the altered proteins are foreign, which may cause an allergic response.

Linky (http://www.naturalhealthmag.com/milk/expert_advice/37) - though, then again, looking at the sites name "Natural Health Mag" makes me think it may've bias.

If you don't take it back, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell :)

You should see what happens when he tries to make waffles.

Fuck, you should see what happens when I turn the lights on in the kitchen.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/brokein2/scum.jpg
Awesome, awesome, awesome.

This totally makes up for all those botched pickpoketing attempts in Oblivion.

Linky (http://www.naturalhealthmag.com/milk/expert_advice/37) - though, then again, looking at the sites name "Natural Health Mag" makes me think it may've bias.

http://www.fda.gov/consumer/updates/lactose032508.html

FDA warns consumers not to drink raw, or unpasteurized, milk. "Raw milk advocates claim that pasteurized milk causes lactose intolerance," says John Sheehan, Director of FDA's Division of Plant and Dairy Food Safety. "This is simply not true. All milk, whether raw or pasteurized, contains lactose, and pasteurization does not change the concentration of lactose nor does it convert lactose from one form into another."

Raw milk advocates also claim that raw milk prevents or cures the symptoms of lactose intolerance. Arguing that raw milk contains Bifidobacteria, they claim these microorganisms are beneficial (probiotic) and create their own lactase, which helps people digest the milk.

"This is not true, either," says Sheehan. "Raw milk can contain Bifidobacteria, but when it does, the bacteria come from fecal matter (animal manure) and are not considered probiotic, but instead are regarded as contaminants."

Drinking raw milk will still cause uncomfortable symptoms in people who are correctly diagnosed as being lactose intolerant. But worse than this discomfort are the dangers of raw milk, which can harbor a host of disease-causing germs, says Sheehan. "These microorganisms can cause very serious, and sometimes even fatal, disease conditions in humans."

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

Poll coming.
We don't have self-check out here, so I'm confused - what's to keep people from not properly swiping things all the time?

If it was the OP's intention to steal, they would certainly have stolen something more expensive and also smaller than a gallon of milk.

Nonetheless, they should defend themself against any such accusation by taking the actual carton (with or without milk in it) and the receipt from the things that they DID pay for, and at least attempt to pay now that the mistake is recognized.

Another approach would be to adamantly deny knowing about the mistake. But this thread exists, so that's out.

We don't have self-check out here, so I'm confused - what's to keep people from not properly swiping things all the time?
The one at my nearest Tesco has a set of scales you put everything on at the start, and it screeches at you if you take things off too quickly, etc. But if you were to pocket an item before the self-service, I don't know what could stop you from taking it; beyond security guards, CCTV, and the like.

We don't have self-check out here, so I'm confused - what's to keep people from not properly swiping things all the time?

Presumably, the same thing which stops them pocketing small packets of vitamin B12 and not presenting them to the cashier.

Store detectives and video surveillance.

What's the point of drinking milk, at all? Usually, one cooks with the substitutes and can drink them if one likes.

I suppose my problem with it is the need to sell them as 'milk' substitutes. Why call soy milk, rice milk, or any other of these non-milks milk? Are they not capable of standing as beverages on their own merits?

Keep it.

The one at my nearest Tesco has a set of scales you put everything on at the start, and it screeches at you if you take things off too quickly, etc. But if you were to pocket an item before the self-service, I don't know what could stop you from taking it; beyond security guards, CCTV, and the like.

Where the attendant stands, there is a monitor, which I assume shows everything thats going on, and if they give that much of a damn attention should be paid. I was doing suspicious behaviour though, because I was paying for half the stuff using my eftpos card, and then I bought the other stuff with my brothers cash, in a completely seperate transactions, should've raised eyebrows since I was the only person there.

Where the attendant stands, there is a monitor, which I assume shows everything thats going on, and if they give that much of a damn attention should be paid. I was doing suspicious behaviour though, because I was paying for half the stuff using my eftpos card, and then I bought the other stuff with my brothers cash, in a completely seperate transactions, should've raised eyebrows since I was the only person there.

Not really. If you had been buying condoms and pop candy to build an Infernal Terrorist Device™, you would have paid everything in cash.

Using someone else's card for your condoms and pool chlorine, well that would be suspicious. But using your own, to buy your brother's dairy atrocity supplies ... well, that's just dumb.

And "dumb" is the target demographic of capitalism worldwide. Seems to be working too.

I suppose my problem with it is the need to sell them as 'milk' substitutes. Why call soy milk, rice milk, or any other of these non-milks milk? Are they not capable of standing as beverages on their own merits?

You're right, if only in a paper-thin semantic way.

The ox, goat, sheep, cat -etc-milk industries should stand up for themselves, and defend the "milk" description of food from these peddlers of (possibly superior) vegetable derivatives.

It comes from a mammary gland ... or it isn't milk. End of.

Not really. If you had been buying condoms and pop candy to build an Infernal Terrorist Device™, you would have paid everything in cash.

Using someone else's card for your condoms and pool chlorine, well that would be suspicious. But using your own, to buy your brother's dairy atrocity supplies ... well, that's just dumb.

And "dumb" is the target demographic of capitalism worldwide. Seems to be working too.

Hush you, leave my bomb plans alone.

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

Poll coming.

Well, the solution to such a situation is obvious: Steal more stuff.

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

Poll coming.Sure, if that suits you. I've accidentally taken things before, but then realised it later and walked back with the item ... and was told not to worry about it.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/brokein2/scum.jpg

Brilliant.

http://www.fda.gov/consumer/updates/lactose032508.html

As someone who actually IS lactose intolerant, I can vouch for this. So-called raw milk didn't do squat for me, just gave me horrible cramps for a few days.

THIEF! THIEF!

*pounces on One-O-One, savagely beats him*

Yes, yes you can. (http://www.oatly.com/webit/Websidor/visaSida.asp?idnr=L0CQYIBj8GBHrozEN94s1O9NcZWXL6PtNdsDMWT4G4XFuCQv2bPL7rDM7qWr)

That ain't real ice cream.

On stuff like this, where the "theft" is a result in what must be a routine failure of the self-check-out system, I consider the following:

1) In any automated system, imperfection is factored into the cost, or at least should be in any realistic design scheme.

2) Unless you're a truly devout receipt examiner, electronic/mechanical errors have likely cost you at least the price of a gallon of milk over the years.

In short, unless you're doing it on purpose, or getting the same error in your favor more than once in a blue moon, I would consider it a wash, both financially and karmically.

If you wanted my opinion, and the OP suggests you do, I wouldn't sweat it unless it happened again soon. Even then, you might be thanked for doing the store a favor by showing them exactly what you're doing when the error occurs so that they might properly address the problem.

I suppose my problem with it is the need to sell them as 'milk' substitutes. Why call soy milk, rice milk, or any other of these non-milks milk? Are they not capable of standing as beverages on their own merits?

LEWIS BLACK: "There's no such thing a soy milk. You know how I know this? 'Cause there's no soy titty, is there? It's not soy milk, it's soy juice. But the marketing guys knew that would never sell...."

Short answer: intended substitute use + marketing/euphemism = soy milk.

That's OK, a lot of us have weaned ourselves off mummy's teat so do not need to suckle any more. Also, oat-based milk substitute is healthier than regular milk and is completely lactose-free, so is suitable for the majority of humanity on this planet, which just happens to be lactose-intolerant.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9a/LacIntol-World2.png/800px-LacIntol-World2.png

It seems like the lactose intolerant people should hurry up and become tolerant of it.

Intolerance isn't very PC.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j35/brokein2/scum.jpg

This is made of so much win...

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

I wouldn't say you've stolen it at all, as there was no dishonesty at the time you took it.

Keep it, but keep an ear out for police sirens and dispose of the evidence as soon as you can.

Meh, who cares? They put people out of work by installing the self-checkouts in the first place. Perhaps this wouldn't have happened if a human had been scanning everything.

That's why it's better.

Ugh... I've tried the stuff and it had the worst after-taste.

Better for you? Maybe.

Better tasting? If you don't have functioning tastebuds.

Meh, who cares? They put people out of work by installing the self-checkouts in the first place. Perhaps this wouldn't have happened if a human had been scanning everything.

The last of the Luddites.

Personally, I'd take it back and pay for it, but I can understand why someone wouldn't.

Exchange it for some vegan oat-based milk.

That's rather a harsher punishment than I think the crime deserves. You know why vegan food isn't more popular? Because it tastes like sawdust. That, and vegans tend to be kind of snotty. Until you come up with some kind of soy-substitute that smells and tastes as good as a rare steak that's all fat and bloody, people aren't going to budge.

It seems like the lactose intolerant people should hurry up and become tolerant of it. Intolerance isn't very PC.

Best suggestion so far.

That's rather a harsher punishment than I think the crime deserves. You know why vegan food isn't more popular? Because it tastes like sawdust. That, and vegans tend to be kind of snotty. Until you come up with some kind of soy-substitute that smells and tastes as good as a rare steak that's all fat and bloody, people aren't going to budge.

Besides those who have already budged, you mean.

Besides those who have already budged, you mean.

That goes without saying. Well, you'd think it did, but apparently not.

It seems like the lactose intolerant people should hurry up and become tolerant of it.

Intolerance isn't very PC.
:D

Also, it's amusing to see how many people have gone for the "Proletariat" option on the poll. I defy the person who actually sets out to have a sensible poll on NSG.

And that Imperial Watch-dog thingy is fucking hilarious.

I'll call on chuck norris on your ass, you be dead man ain't nothing left for you...make for mexico and start a living making boats on the pacific coast.
trust no one...
>.>
<.<

That's OK, a lot of us have weaned ourselves off mummy's teat so do not need to suckle any more.

Fass, this kind of post I keep seeing you make is why I have to ask:

How are your bedside manners?

Fass, this kind of post I keep seeing you make is why I have to ask:

How are your bedside manners?
Dr Cox-esque, probably.

Dr Cox-esque, probably.

Actually, Dr. Cox at the very least waits for someone to screw up badly, whether regarding their own health or regarding discourse. I have yet to see an episode in which Cox goes "So, you don't live exactly like me. That makes you a moron."

Actually, Dr. Cox at the very least waits for someone to screw up badly, whether regarding their own health or regarding discourse. I have yet to see an episode in which Cox goes "So, you don't live exactly like me. That makes you a moron."
True.

But at least the general, acerbic style.

Now you've started on this slope, might as well just hold them up wearing a balaclava and toting an illegal submachine-gun tbqh. You're a disgrace.

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!
What do I do? Return it?

1.It's "dilemma", not "dilemmia".
2.ARE YOU NUTS? Keep it.

It's not like the supermarkets are generally the examples of moral behaviour (like when they're selling products after the date of expiry, etc).
You made a bona fide attempt to pay; if their system sucks, it's their fault, and you don't have to waste your time for them (or even risk being over-checked by the security next time you go there).

Meh, who cares? They put people out of work by installing the self-checkouts in the first place. Perhaps this wouldn't have happened if a human had been scanning everything.

Actually the exact same thing happened to me when I took my stuff through a proper check-out ages ago. True story.

Also, everyone, its a litre of milk. I have no idea what your "gallons" are. Dirty freaking Imperial system. They should rename the Metric system the Rebels, so you know which one to root for.

Meh, who cares? They put people out of work by installing the self-checkouts in the first place. Perhaps this wouldn't have happened if a human had been scanning everything.

trust me, it wouldnt. I work as a cashier in a supermarket and the number of things that don't get scanned through is amazing. We just failed a stocktake by hundreds.


And to address the OP: just forget about it, they wont expect you to come back and when you do it will just create more work for them because they will have to process your payment again. lol I would be ticked if someone came back but maybe thats cos Im lazy lol!

interesting, the persons own moral dilemmiaaaaa makes things awkward for store attendants. (i know i've been one)
To take it back and cause hassle for staff there, yet at the same time put his own mind at rest, or keep it and let the staff off but know he did something wrong...most perturbatory.

Fass, this kind of post I keep seeing you make is why I have to ask:

How are your bedside manners?

I have been lauded for them by mentors and patients alike. Not that I see why you "have to" ask something like this, other than by assuming that you honestly think that humorously pointed postings on Internet fora can be used to form an opinion of someone in any other respect than that very one. Sad that you'd think that, even sadder if you thought I'd care one whit about someone's poor and misdirected judging of character on-line.

I have been lauded for them by mentors and patients alike.

Good, then I'd rather be your patient than talk to you in a forum.

Auf wieder sehn.

Dirty freaking Imperial system. They should rename the Metric system the Rebels, so you know which one to root for.


Well I got a new sig. :D

Good, then I'd rather be your patient than talk to you in a forum.

I'd rather you not be anyone's patient - cherish your health.

Auf wieder sehn.

That's "auf Wiedersehen". Tschüß!

I have been lauded for them by mentors and patients alike. Not that I see why you "have to" ask something like this, other than by assuming that you honestly think that humorously pointed postings on Internet fora can be used to form an opinion of someone in any other respect than that very one. Sad that you'd think that, even sadder if you thought I'd care one whit about someone's poor and misdirected judging of character on-line.
Stig Helmer... is that you?

Dansk Jävlarna!!

That goes without saying. Well, you'd think it did, but apparently not.

Obviously, it needed saying, since you seem to think "nobody will budge", despite the fact that plenty have, and more continue to do so despite your pronouncement.

Obviously, it needed saying, since you seem to think "nobody will budge", despite the fact that plenty have, and more continue to do so despite your pronouncement.

Do you take everything everybody says to you excessively literally, or is this something special just for me? You got nothing better to do? How about you step off my nuts and go find a hobby or something.

Do you take everything everybody says to you excessively literally, or is this something special just for me? You got nothing better to do? How about you step off my nuts and go find a hobby or something.

You reply to me, I reply to your reply. This is known as conversation. If you wish to stop speaking, well, I think the instruction is within the wish.

-snip-
Oh. That's what "bedside manners" refers to. *inserts new item of vocab into appropriate brain slot* There goes me waiting for intimate recounts of your post-coital manners. Hrmpf.

That's "auf Wiedersehen". Tschüß!

You're a good student. *awards an A*

Stig Helmer... is that you?
Dansk Jävlarna!!

That would be "danskjävlar!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlTukY9fV9Y)

*sings*Kalla den änglamarken eller himlajorden om du vill" ("Call it the angel ground or heaven on Earth if you want" - old Swedish ditty sung on Midsummer's Eve mostly)

"Thank you, you Swedish watchtowers. With plutonium we force the Dane to his knees. Here, Denmark - shit out of lime and water. And there, Sweden - cut into granite. Danish bastards. Fucking Danish bastards!"

Riget and Ernst Hugo are iconic. :)

Oh. That's what "bedside manners" refers to. *inserts new item of vocab into appropriate brain slot* There goes me waiting for intimate recounts of your post-coital manners. Hrmpf.

Why you'd wait for those in written form, I have no idea...

You're a good student. *awards an A*

I always get As.

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

Poll coming.

Interesting coincidence. I was being served at a till the other day, and the guy didn't swipe the bottle of vodka. And for all I know, it could have been deliberate, given the wide smile on his face, and my gaydar going off all over the place. Needless to say, I is drinkin vodkaz nowz.

That would be "danskjävlar!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlTukY9fV9Y)
Thanks. I suspected I would get it wrong... though I blame whoever subbed my copy of Riget.

Riget and Ernst Hugo are iconic. :)
Quite, and that speech is exactly the one I'd highlight.

Riget is undoubtedly one of the best TV series ever made; even more so that it inspired Garth Merenghi's Dark Place (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nNfQ0ORwSDM).

I trust you get few baby-demon-man-things in your hospital ward?

I'd rather you not be anyone's patient - cherish your health.

...that was actually pretty noble of you to say.

However, given my 80-kg, 163 cm physique at 27, and with a family history of thrombosis and diabetes... :p

(I don't fear so much DYING from it as getting RETARDED from it... For that matter, how does one know it's a thrombosis?)

Anyways. No more threadjacks.

...that was actually pretty noble of you to say.

However, given my 80-kg, 163 cm physique at 27, and with a family history of thrombosis and diabetes... :p

(I don't fear so much DYING from it as getting RETARDED from it... For that matter, how does one know it's a thrombosis?)

Anyways. No more threadjacks.

But, but, threadjacking makes me look like I've got something to say! Until, of course people make it through a few pages of injokes and Ayn Rand.

Well I got a new sig. :D

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Why you'd wait for those in written form, I have no idea...
I was hoping for a quick'n'easy amusement fix.
I always get As.

Not from me you don't.

live with the embarassment and slip the casheer a fiver next time.

does anyone besides me realize, that if no one ever intentionally stole anything, we wouldn't NEED keep out signs, let alone locks? image all the exploration you could gratify without them, if each of us, along with everyone else, were self diciplined enough not to ever mess with each other's stuff, if we should happen to accidentally come upon it.

in my dreams there are no locks, and almost no fences or keep out signs. this is possible because everyone in them is self diciplined to near absolute mutual considerateness.

i guess that's why they're called dreams. but i HAVE seen myself situations that worked that way, and it can and does work. there have been whole cultures, that believe it or not, DID work that way. even when i was growing up, out in the boonies, people were mostly like that too.

Keep it, she'll be right.

Dunsterdam = Dunedin?

Keep it, she'll be right.

Dunsterdam = Dunedin?

Indeed, in fact, my mum and brother go to Otago University. You may know my of brother in connection with the infamous Jo Moore. That is, I'm assuming you go to Otago?

live with the embarassment and slip the casheer a fiver next time.

does anyone besides me realize, that if no one ever intentionally stole anything, we wouldn't NEED keep out signs, let alone locks? image all the exploration you could gratify without them, if each of us, along with everyone else, were self diciplined enough not to ever mess with each other's stuff, if we should happen to accidentally come upon it.

in my dreams there are no locks, and almost no fences or keep out signs. this is possible because everyone in them is self diciplined to near absolute mutual considerateness.

i guess that's why they're called dreams. but i HAVE seen myself situations that worked that way, and it can and does work. there have been whole cultures, that believe it or not, DID work that way. even when i was growing up, out in the boonies, people were mostly like that too.

Ah, there's a folk festival I go to every year and it's exactly like that. The only time I can think of anything happening tothe bad was years back when drunk teenagers went rooting through tents for alcohol. It's quite laid back.

Maybe I'm the wrong one to ask. When I found a package of lamb chops in my groceries that I hadn't paid for, I drove back to the store, tracked down the head cashier and made him ring them up. He kept looking at me as if I were an alien.

I had a similar response from a bank once. Their automatic teller machine spat out $60 more than I requested (and it hadn't been deducted from my account). When I went inside to give it back they acted as if they were afraid of being infected by honesty.

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?Next time swipe the milk twice.

Indeed, in fact, my mum and brother go to Otago University. You may know my of brother in connection with the infamous Jo Moore. That is, I'm assuming you go to Otago?

Yep, go to Otago. Can't say I know the name though. I can't wait to get back down there ay. Good times.

If it bothers you the next time scan your milk twice.
there you have balanced out Karma in the universe.

Yep, go to Otago. Can't say I know the name though. I can't wait to get back down there ay. Good times.

Who wanted to be OUSA President? Unless of course you don't read the beautifully written magazine that is the Critic.

Moral dilemmia, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

Poll coming.
If you have to ask, I really do fear for you and your ability to survive in more complex common sense situations.

If you have to ask, I really do fear for you and your ability to survive in more complex common sense situations.

http://vogons.zetafleet.com/files/orly.jpg

As I've already said earlier in this thread, I knew what I was going to do (or not do), and I'm curious what others would do in the same situation. Open my mind up a bit to other peoples point of view.

Moral dilemma, I was using the self-check out at the local supermarket, and when I got home, my brother was checking out the docket, and it appears I didn't properly swipe the milk ($1.96) and it wasn't registered!

What do I do? Return it?

Poll coming.
First of all, it's their own damn fault for installing those self-check outs.

Whether you should return the milk depends on whether it's regular 3.5% fat milk or that low-fat watery stuff. Keep the former, return the latter.
Drink the milk and get rid of the evidence!
Drink all of it at once and post the video!!!
That's a gateway crime you know. Today a gallon of milk, tomorrow you'll be beating up old ladies and stealing their purses.
Stealing their money to pay for milk, I venture.
Exchange it for some vegan oat-based milk.
That's like drinking piss.
Also, oat-based milk substitute is healthier than regular milk and is completely lactose-free, so is suitable for the majority of humanity on this planet, which just happens to be lactose-intolerant.
And? Those who ain't and enjoy drinking real milk still should.
We don't have self-check out here, so I'm confused - what's to keep people from not properly swiping things all the time?
Our real,- has installed one of those. Four registers with a supervisor person in overall charge. There's always something wrong with the machines, and I'd rather be served by a human, thus saving their job.
I suppose my problem with it is the need to sell them as 'milk' substitutes. Why call soy milk, rice milk, or any other of these non-milks milk? Are they not capable of standing as beverages on their own merits?
Nope. Besides, there's nothing that compares to a glass of cold milk when you feel like one.
Meh, who cares? They put people out of work by installing the self-checkouts in the first place. Perhaps this wouldn't have happened if a human had been scanning everything.
My thoughts exactly!