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Yes, tattoos! Nanatsu finally got one of the tattoos she wanted. And this tattoo is entrenched into who she is on NSG.

What am I called?

Here's the design.
http://img.printfection.com/14/67605/EO85U.jpg

Opinions on it? HAve any of you gotten a tattoo recently? Bicker? All's allowed.:D

Yes, tattoos! Nanatsu finally got one of the tattoos she wanted. And this tattoo is entrenched into who she is on NSG.

What am I called?

Here's the design.
http://img.printfection.com/14/67605/EO85U.jpg

Opinions on it? HAve any of you gotten a tattoo recently? Bicker? All's allowed.:D

Neat tattoo! Where did they stick that one on you?

I have no tattoos, but I've been planning for ages to get Tengwar Runes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengwar) tattooed around my left arm, I just don't know what I want them to say.

(Yes, I am a nerd.) :tongue:

Neat tattoo! Where did they stick that one on you?

I have no tattoos, but I've been planning for ages to get Tengwar Runes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengwar) tattooed around my left arm, I just don't know what I want them to say.

(Yes, I am a nerd.) :tongue:

On the left side of my lower back. I wanted it at the back of my neck but the type of work I do wouldn't allow it.

Those runes look like a neat design to have for a tattoo. Now, as for the message, just think about something meaningful to you, a certain quote or passage or phrase that speaks to you, write it with the runes and take it to the artist.

And no, you're not that much of a nerd. You just like unusual stuff.

I'm allergic to pain, I don't want tattoos.

I'm allergic to pain, I don't want tattoos.

I love the sensation of the needle on me. I actually liberate a lot of stress with it. I even fell asleep on the tattoo chair.

I love the sensation of the needle on me. I actually liberate a lot of stress with it. I even fell asleep on the tattoo chair.

I rarely let needles near my skin for medical purposes; not going to let someone draw on me with a needle that pokes me at 500 pokes per second or whatever it it. Call me a wimp but I won't.

On the left side of my lower back. I wanted it at the back of my neck but the type of work I do wouldn't allow it.

Yeah. Some people I know have ruined their employment prospects for life by getting tattoos in incredibly obvious places, like one guy who got a tribal pattern over his whole face.

Those runes look like a neat design to have for a tattoo. Now, as for the message, just think about something meaningful to you, a certain quote or passage or phrase that speaks to you, write it with the runes and take it to the artist.

That's the step that I've been stuck on for, oh, five years or so. I don't want regret my tattoo ten or twenty years in the future, so I'm quite indecisive regarding what it is exactly that I want.

And no, you're not that much of a nerd. You just like unusual stuff.

You don't know me very well, it seems. :tongue:

Yeah. Some people I know have ruined their employment prospects for life by getting tattoos in incredibly obvious places, like one guy who got a tribal pattern over his whole face.

Ouch. That's why all of my tattoos are on my back, in places my clothes cover and only those who see me in my undies can appreciate.

That's the step that I've been stuck on for, oh, five years or so. I don't want regret my tattoo ten or twenty years in the future, so I'm quite indecisive regarding what it is exactly that I want.

Yeah, I know what you mean. That's why I take my time too in deciding if and when I'm gonna get a tattoo. I already have 3. And these are designs I know I'll never regret because they speak to me.

You don't know me very well, it seems. :tongue:

Apparently I do not then.:D

Damn you, andalucian temptress....You're the only woman here who I feel compelled to ask for pics.....

I'd like a tattoo, but honestly haven't a clue what, where or how.

Damn you, andalucian temptress....You're the only woman here who I feel compelled to ask for pics.....

Asturian temptress, darling, Asturian.;)

good for you, so what does this mean for the rest of us?

If I'm having a needle near my skin for non-medical purposes, it better be on one of my two ears because I will only pierce my skin... tattooing sounds... painful. Piercing cartilage is painless. *says the mod with 11 ear piercings*

If I'm having a needle near my skin for non-medical purposes, it better be on one of my two ears because I will only pierce my skin... tattooing sounds... painful. Piercing cartilage is painless. *says the mod with 11 ear piercings*

<.<


Sigh... I have to


Pics?

If I'm having a needle near my skin for non-medical purposes, it better be on one of my two ears because I will only pierce my skin... tattooing sounds... painful. Piercing cartilage is painless. *says the mod with 11 ear piercings*

i hear ear piercing is really irritating to have done (no pun intended;)), if you let the skin heal over again you have to pierce it again right?

good for you, so what does this mean for the rest of us?

Does it need to have a meaning for you? Suffice it that it has a meaning for me. That's what matters. Those who post do so becaus they wish to offer an opinion nd because the thread's opened for that.

If I'm having a needle near my skin for non-medical purposes, it better be on one of my two ears because I will only pierce my skin... tattooing sounds... painful. Piercing cartilage is painless. *says the mod with 11 ear piercings*

Wow, 11 piercings. I pierced my left ear's cartilage one time. The piercing looked cool, until I started working with government. I was ordered to take it off.:(

Does it need to have a meaning for you? Suffice it that it has a meaning for me. That's what matters. Those who post do so becaus they wish to offer an opinion nd because the thread's opened for that.

and i have offered my opinion, everything has meaning at some level or another to people.
so there





:eek:

Pics or it didn't happen.

And, because these threads inevitably devolve into this, here are my tattoos:

Right bicep
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/maddillphatyo/Tattoos/tattoo1.jpg

Left bicep
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/maddillphatyo/Tattoos/tattoo2.jpg

Right shoulder
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/maddillphatyo/Tattoos/tattoo3.jpg

and i have offered my opinion, everything has meaning at some level or another to people.
so there





:eek:

Then that's the question you should have asked at the very beginning. The tattoo is the kanji (Japanese) symbol for neko (cat). A few of my friends here on NSG call me Neko-chan. And my fiancé calls me Kitty (Minina in Spanish) as an endearing term. That's the meaning of the tattoo.

Then that's the question you should have asked at the very beginning. The tattoo is the kanji (Japanese) symbol for neko (cat). A few of my friends here on NSG call me Neko-chan. And my fiancé calls me Kitty (Minina in Spanish) as an endearing term. That's the meaning of the tattoo.

ah so that's the meaning for you...but what do you think this means for other people on this thread?

Pics or it didn't happen.

And, because these threads inevitably devolve into this, here are my tattoos:

Right bicep
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/maddillphatyo/Tattoos/tattoo1.jpg

Left bicep
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/maddillphatyo/Tattoos/tattoo2.jpg

Right shoulder
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/maddillphatyo/Tattoos/tattoo3.jpg

I can show you the first 2 tattoos I have. I need to take a pic of the one I got yesterday.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/olgavelez/LlovioVinuEnOvieu/Sofa_Tatuaje.jpg
Broken mirror, back of left shoulder.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/olgavelez/LlovioVinuEnOvieu/IMG_0115.jpg
Annabelle, lower back, right side.

ah so that's the meaning for you...but what do you think this means for other people on this thread?

It doesn't need to have a meaning for anyone else. This may mean people will share their own tattoos and post images.

ah so that's the meaning for you...but what do you think this means for other people on this thread?

It means it's an opportunity to share tattoos, ideas about tattoos, where to get them, how much they hurt, etc., etc. Now, are you done with your immature trolling? Do you have anything of value to contribute to the thread?

It means it's an opportunity to share tattoos, ideas about tattoos, where to get them, how much they hurt, etc., etc. Now, are you done with your immature trolling? Do you have anything of value to contribute to the thread?

woah smokey.
i was talking an a questioning tone not an aggressive one. (trolling how?)

whatcha going to do if i don't contribute anything of value to this thread?

While there are exceptions, and not counting a single tattoo, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.

While there are exceptions, and not counting a single tattoo, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.

Sounds like well-researched science.

Sounds like well-researched science.

Does it now?

Sounds like well-researched science.

I look forward to your long list of Nobel Laureates with dragons crawling up thier arms and back.

I look forward to your long list of Nobel Laureates with dragons crawling up thier arms and back.

What does having a tattoo has to do with how intelligent someone is? That sounds ridiculous.

What does having a tattoo has to do with how intelligent someone is? That sounds ridiculous.

No it actually makes sense. Maybe not as much in the last 10-15 years but a significant % of tattoo wearers are gang members and prisoners and people in heavy metal bands, none of which are typically considered the brightest of the bunch. It brings down the IQ average significantly for everyone else.

I look forward to your long list of Nobel Laureates with dragons crawling up thier arms and back.

I look forward to your study on the inverse relation between number of tattoos and IQ. Unless you'd be willing to concede that such a claim is pure fabrication.

No it actually makes sense. Maybe not as much in the last 10-15 years but a significant % of tattoo wearers are gang members and prisoners and people in heavy metal bands, none of which are typically considered the brightest of the bunch. It brings down the IQ average significantly for everyone else.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation

Read, and absorb. That stupid people get tattoos does not imply that tattoos make people stupid.

No it actually makes sense. Maybe not as much in the last 10-15 years but a significant % of tattoo wearers are gang members and prisoners and people in heavy metal bands, none of which are typically considered the brightest of the bunch. It brings down the IQ average significantly for everyone else.

I take offense to this claim. Althoug I know certain demographics use tattoos for a reason, then your claim would also stipulate that a Maori or Polynesian warrior, who has to get a tattoo as a right of passage when becoming a man, has a lower IQ than a person who doesn't has tattoos. This is just a falacy you've been spoon-fed.

While there are exceptions, and not counting a single tattoo, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.

You did this before in a similar thread, if I remember correctly.

actually makes sense. Maybe not as much in the last 10-15 years but a significant % of tattoo wearers are gang members and prisoners and people in heavy metal bands, none of which are typically considered the brightest of the bunch.
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....absolutely positive now.

I take offense to this claim. Althoug I know certain demographics use tattoos for a reason, then your claim would also stipulate that a Maori or Polynesian warrior, who has to get a tattoo as a right of passage when becoming a man, has a lower IQ than a person who doesn't has tattoos. This is just a falacy you've been spoon-fed.

Oh please how many Polynesian warriors do you know? Your missing the obvious point to prove some obscure side issue.

You did this before in a similar thread, if I remember correctly.


....absolutely positive now.

And this means what?

This is just a falacy you've been spoon-fed.

The last time, one came to the conclusion that somebody with a tattoo had stiolen his lunch money/other half/given him a beating, and that he was hell bent on justifying his whining despite evidence to the contrary. He's full of it and just looking for an excuse to bleat.

Read, and absorb. That stupid people get tattoos does not imply that tattoos make people stupid.

Ok allow me to rephrase, alot of stupid people choose to get tattoos.

Oh please how many Polynesian warriors do you know? Your missing the obvious point to prove some obscure side issue.

Not at all. You're bunching in people that have tattoos (regardless) into a dumb and low IQ group. That's just ridiculous and you have no concrete evidence.

And this means what?

You're the one without the ink, O Great One. You work it out.

The last time, one came to the conclusion that somebody with a tattoo had stiolen his lunch money/other half/given him a beating, and that he was hell bent on justifying his whining despite evidence to the contrary. He's full of it and just looking for an excuse to bleat.

So it seems. He's one of those candidates for an Ignore list.

Ok allow me to rephrase, alot of stupid people choose to get tattoos.

A lot of stupid people make trollish unsupported arguments on internet forums, too. See what mistaking correlation with causation can get you?

The last time, one came to the conclusion that somebody with a tattoo had stiolen his lunch money/other half/given him a beating, and that he was hell bent on justifying his whining despite evidence to the contrary. He's full of it and just looking for an excuse to bleat.

What part of what i said was full of it? That Nobel Lauriates dont generally have tattoos? Or that they have virtual unanimous popularity among gang members, or that prisoners have them in a far far greater % then the non imprisoned populace? Or that most of that group isnt exactly renowned for their brilliance?

Ok allow me to rephrase, alot of stupid people choose to get tattoos.

While trailer trash rednecks and gangstas do seem to have a greater tendency toward getting ink than the rest of the population in general, the analysis that tattoos = stupid is not valid.

Although I like the idea that no ink means I'm automatically a genius if I twist your reasoning around :p

What part of what i said was full of it? That Nobel Lauriates dont generally have tattoos? Or that they have virtual unanimous popularity among gang members, or that prisoners have them in a far far greater % then the non imprisoned populace? Or that most of that group isnt exactly renowned for their brilliance?

You forget your own posts that quickly? Are you sure you don't have any tattoos that you're unaware of?

there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.

This is what you said that was full of it. Bullshit, specifically, is what this post is full of.

Blech. Tattoos are too long term. I don't wear the same clothes over and over again, so why should I wear the same skin? :D

What part of what i said was full of it?

O, about all of it. But we've been through this before, almost word for word.

At this stage, I'd suggest something like this (http://www.thewholechild.us/integrative_/therapy.gif) in a non-threatening enviroment.

A lot of stupid people make trollish unsupported arguments on internet forums, too. See what mistaking correlation with causation can get you?

Of course, in this case, causation would at least make sense.

But, on the topic-- it seems most probable that the reason many educated people do not have tattoos is not because of a direct connection with intelligence, but because educated people typically want to use that education to enter into certain careers, most of which have certain standards that, for no rational or valid reason, forbid tattoos. So they do not get them, not because they do not desire them, but because they realize that some people are stupid enough to judge somebody based on something so trivial. And so they either do not get them or get them in places that are easily concealed.

i hear ear piercing is really irritating to have done (no pun intended;)), if you let the skin heal over again you have to pierce it again right?
It does, especially cartilage. It might depend on the person but my first time through, I barely felt it, after letting it grow over because of a summer job, I nearly punched the guy from the pain. I've heard this varies a lot between people, though.
While there are exceptions, and not counting a single tattoo, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.
Absolute nonsense, especially as you later said, in the last decade or so. I've met a number of professors with tattoos and the like. In fact, most people you meet who have tattoos, single ones or multiple, you'll simply never know because the nice thing about them is that you can still look professional and have them, depending on placement.

I have a tattoo, on my chest, I plan to get a couple more on back, upper arm and other side of my chest...no one in a professional environment or academia is ever going to see these. This is not at all uncommon from my experiences.
Ok allow me to rephrase, alot of stupid people choose to get tattoos.
A lot of stupid people choose not to.

Blech. Tattoos are too long term. I don't wear the same clothes over and over again, so why should I wear the same skin? :D

You conservatives shed your skin?

Much is now confirmed.

You conservatives shed your skin?

Much is now confirmed.

LIZARDMEN!!!:eek:

I doubt I'd ever actually get a tattoo, but if I was going to get one, it'd be a small one, in the small of my back: a phoenix.

Absolute nonsense, especially as you later said, in the last decade or so. I've met a number of professors with tattoos and the like. In fact, most people you meet who have tattoos, single ones or multiple, you'll simply never know because the nice thing about them is that you can still look professional and have them, depending on placement.

I have a tattoo, on my chest, I plan to get a couple more on back, upper arm and other side of my chest...no one in a professional environment or academia is ever going to see these. This is not at all uncommon from my experiences.

Excatly. I have 3 tattoos and from looking at me at work, or anywhere, you wouldn't be able to tell I have them unless I told you or decided to show you. My fiancé works with the restaurant industry and when you look at him, you can't tell he has tattoos (he has 2). I have tons of friends with tattoos who are extremely intelligent, the tattoo artist who's my friend has a PhD in international law and does tattoos as a hobby, my best friend has several and he's a linguist, with a degree on the subject, and he's incredibly intelligent. The tattoos do not take off from these people being professionals.

Intestinal Fluids should just say he dislikes tattoos and people with them and be done with it. That would be more honest than just going around prattling about IQ and tattoo= dumb.

On a serious note I have three and a half tattoos. I just got more ink this past monday, but it's just an outline. I need to come up with more money to finish it off. All of them are hidden, and just by looking at me you wouldn't think I'd have as much ink as I do.

You conservatives shed your skin?

Much is now confirmed.

You see? Why does everyone call me a Conservative? IT'S BECAUSE OF THE NAME, ISN'T IT? *Quiet sobs*:tongue:

Oh, and watch out for the scales. Touching them can make you itch. *nod*

You see? Why does everyone call me a Conservative? IT'S BECAUSE OF THE NAME, ISN'T IT? *Quiet sobs*:tongue:

Oh, and watch out for the scales. Touching them can make you itch. *nod*

CM is a reptile?!:eek:

I have three tattoos, all of which I got last year after my divorce. A bass clef on one wrist, and a treble clef on the other, and a stylised raven (a design my Dene godfather gave me when I was a child) on my right shoulder (well more like on my back on the right side). I am trying to design something for my left arm...I'd actually like to get a full sleeve, but I want it to be something really unique, and that incorporates Cree syllabics.

What I don't understand is how people can go to a tattoo parlour and pick a tat from a book of pictures. I know it's hard to decide on something, or to design something yourself...but I know a lot of people who have gotten friends to design a tattoo for them. It just seems like such a big decision to leave to a set choice of catalogued designs.

I particularly dislike 'popular' tattoos...Japanese koi fish, or kanji symbols for example, if you aren't Japanese, or in any way connected with the culture. Then again, cultural appropriation annoys me for various reasons, but hey, it's not my skin, so I'm not really going to fault someone's decision.

Also, it felt freaking awesome.

CM is a reptile?!:eek:

Even worse, a politician! *Cue evil laughter*

Even worse, a politician! *Cue evil laughter*

Oh noes!!:eek2:

I particularly dislike 'popular' tattoos...Japanese koi fish, or kanji symbols for example, if you aren't Japanese, or in any way connected with the culture. Then again, cultural appropriation annoys me for various reasons, but hey, it's not my skin, so I'm not really going to fault someone's decision.

I myself got a kanji symbol. And the reason I got it is because my fiancé calls me ''neko'' as an endearing term and it means a lot to me. We are both studying Japanese, and, although I am not Japanese, I feel connected to the culture in many ways. Besides, kanji is an elegant and delicate writing system that I am deeply respectful of.

Also, it felt freaking awesome.

I agree. The vibration of the needle and the slight scratching feeling I get from the tattooing experience is something that I like a lot. Also, it helps me liberate tension and stress.

I particularly dislike 'popular' tattoos...Japanese koi fish, or kanji symbols for example, if you aren't Japanese, or in any way connected with the culture. Then again, cultural appropriation annoys me for various reasons, but hey, it's not my skin, so I'm not really going to fault someone's decision.

Also, it felt freaking awesome.

This bugs me, too. Especially "tribal armbands." I think tattoos are wonderful things, but the tattoo should have some kind of meaning to you. I cannot imagine, for the vast majority of those who wear them, that tribal armbands have any meaning whatsoever.

Especially for armbands, there are so many things you can get that it shouldn't be hard to find something actually meaningful to you. I hope to, eventually, get complementing armbands. I'm thinking knowledge, love and virtue in Hebrew and Arabic on my right and left arm, respectively. Hebrew for my Jewish heritage and Arabic for the absurd amount of time I've devoted to learning the language (which I've mostly forgotten after a year only :(). Still up in the air about it, though.

Tattoo removal is a big business for a reason.

Let's ask the expert: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9w4COa8Dp4

:D

I am currently a poor college student, so no, I have no tattoos. But, I already have two Im going to get the minute I have money planned out.

I mean, I could quit drinking and save up for one of them now...but the whole "quit drinking" part is not gonna happen.

I myself got a kanji symbol. And the reason I got it is because my fiancé calls me ''neko'' as an endearing term and it means a lot to me. We are both studying Japanese, and, although I am not Japanese, I feel connected to the culture in many ways. Besides, kanji is an elegant and delicate writing system that I am deeply respectful of.
My youngest brother has been a Japanophile since he was a little kid, and he wants to get some kanji tattooed down his side in a very cool, organic 'ink' fashion. It's not his culture either, but he's been fascinated with it for ages...in that case I really don't see it being an issue. It's more like these people who just think the symbols are 'cool' because they're 'asian', but really don't know much about the culture. Choosing kanji because they are popular seems rather flippant to me, when talking about a choice that is going to stay with you for life.

This bugs me, too. Especially "tribal armbands." I think tattoos are wonderful things, but the tattoo should have some kind of meaning to you. I cannot imagine, for the vast majority of those who wear them, that tribal armbands have any meaning whatsoever. I really, really have a thing for tribal tattoos on people who actually have tribal connections. Maori tattoos for example, on maori people and so forth. I think it's important to be culturally appropriate...you don't get tattoos in the Cree tradition willy nilly...they are given to you for specific reasons. So I would not unilaterally choose a Cree tribal tattoo. Integrating syllabics is a way I can still respect my heritage without commercialising it.

Then again, many 'tribal' tattoos are no such thing...they are just pleasing patterns in basic black that happen to look good on a lot of people. Those don't bother me. Someone stealing an actual tribal tattoo...that bothers me.

Then again, many 'tribal' tattoos are no such thing...they are just pleasing patterns in basic black that happen to look good on a lot of people. Those don't bother me. Someone stealing an actual tribal tattoo...that bothers me.
They tend to, but not always, accompany Cracker Nativism, something sadly even my family is afflicted with. The insistence on 'native' heritage from a lily white dude because two months out of the year they can hold a tan and always based on a single person vaguely buried in the family tree that if you examined too closely you'd find yourself going, "Wait, I don't think we're actually decedent from that marriage (like saying your 'native' because your uncle married one...)," and it's always 'royalty' from a tribe that has a car or some other vehicle or sports team or something named after them.

Look man, the whole 'living on stolen land' thing 500 years later is a difficult issue and is tough to unpack, you don't get to opt out by pretending your 1/65th Cherokee princess...(why is it never a 'prince'? For that matter, when the hell did the Cherokee adopt European feudal royal family structures...anyway...)

Tattoo removal is a big business for a reason.

A lot of people get divorced, so therefore marriage is for stupid people!!! :rolleyes:

Anyway, I don't have any tattoos yet, but once I get some money (and take care of other expenses) there are certain tattoos that I am considering. Just a few of them:

For one, I'm considering a Tux (the Linux Penguin) tattoo, or perhaps the Gnu. (The GNU mascot) -- I'm a huge proponent of Free/Open Source Software, and freedom of knowledge and information in general, and both of those are fairly easily recognizable symbols of that movement.

I also am looking into designing something that incorporates designs from both the American and the Danish flags, each one representing one of my parents and the combination thus representing where I have come from. Unfortunately, I'm no artist, but I'm sure I'll work something out.

And an idea I vaguely like is an open, and blank, book (or scroll or similar), possibly with a pen/quill/other writing implement next to it-- a personal reminder that every day I have to go out and write the book of my own life, a reminder to not simply sit back and let life happen to me.

The book, if I were to get it, would likely be on my chest, so that I would see it every morning in my mirror. The others, I am unsure where I would want them.

I've got a pin-up, an angel on my left shoulder. I think that was the first time I really told my parents off as well. But then in essence, that's what many tattoos were about, pissing off general society and solidifying one's badassitude so I call it a success. Bonus points
'cause the artist who had did it learned to tattoo while in prison and is now back in prison I believe.

Tattoo removal is a big business for a reason.

lol @ moralists.

My youngest brother has been a Japanophile since he was a little kid, and he wants to get some kanji tattooed down his side in a very cool, organic 'ink' fashion. It's not his culture either, but he's been fascinated with it for ages...in that case I really don't see it being an issue. It's more like these people who just think the symbols are 'cool' because they're 'asian', but really don't know much about the culture. Choosing kanji because they are popular seems rather flippant to me, when talking about a choice that is going to stay with you for life.

I understand that. That's why when I decided I was going to get the kanji for cat tattooed on me, I check that 1) it was the correct symbol, 2) that it looked elegant, 3) that it didn't offend the culture I admire and it was done properly and 4) that it meant something for me. I'm not one to get 'popular' designs. Dragons, butterflies, skulls, hearts, crosses or roses are tattoos I would never get, with all due respect to those who like these.

Dragons, butterflies, skulls, hearts, crosses or roses are tattoos I would never get, with all due respect to those who like these.

There's something to be said for 'classic' or 'old school' tattoos. Though ultimately the only person it has to matter to is you, it's your skin. Who gives a rat's ass if some judgmental prick somewhere disagrees with your aesthetic, really? Sometimes I think of it as a filter (I don't have tattoos, but I do fly what little of a freak flag I have), the ones who are uptight about that kind of shit are usually uptight about other things as well and in general a drag to talk to, so looking 'off' to them is filtering out those boring ass conversations.

I take offense to this claim. Althoug I know certain demographics use tattoos for a reason, then your claim would also stipulate that a Maori or Polynesian warrior, who has to get a tattoo as a right of passage when becoming a man, has a lower IQ than a person who doesn't has tattoos. This is just a falacy you've been spoon-fed.

You're refering to the Mongrel Mob, right?

A lot of people get divorced, so therefore marriage is for stupid people!!! :rolleyes:

Anyway, I don't have any tattoos yet, but once I get some money (and take care of other expenses) there are certain tattoos that I am considering. Just a few of them:

For one, I'm considering a Tux (the Linux Penguin) tattoo, or perhaps the Gnu. (The GNU mascot) -- I'm a huge proponent of Free/Open Source Software, and freedom of knowledge and information in general, and both of those are fairly easily recognizable symbols of that movement.

I also am looking into designing something that incorporates designs from both the American and the Danish flags, each one representing one of my parents and the combination thus representing where I have come from. Unfortunately, I'm no artist, but I'm sure I'll work something out.

And an idea I vaguely like is an open, and blank, book (or scroll or similar), possibly with a pen/quill/other writing implement next to it-- a personal reminder that every day I have to go out and write the book of my own life, a reminder to not simply sit back and let life happen to me.

The book, if I were to get it, would likely be on my chest, so that I would see it every morning in my mirror. The others, I am unsure where I would want them.

:fluffle: If I ever got a tattoo, it would have to be something along these lines, and/or a couple song quotes.

I personally think tattoos ruin how your body looks, but it's got nothing to do with me.

I've actually considered getting my magickal name (which I've made into a symbol) tattooed on me and the Pentacle would surround the symbol IE my magickal name.

I also want a tattoo that looks like a Jigsaw piece has been cut out of me, blood and everything! :D

Yes, tattoos! Nanatsu finally got one of the tattoos she wanted. And this tattoo is entrenched into who she is on NSG.

What am I called?

Here's the design.
http://img.printfection.com/14/67605/EO85U.jpg

Opinions on it? HAve any of you gotten a tattoo recently? Bicker? All's allowed.:D

Meow. :D (/me reads chinese)

You're refering to the Mongrel Mob, right?

No. I'm referring to actual Maori and Polyneisan people. For what's worth, there's a certain tribe in Africa where the women tattoo their entire face as a right of passge.

Meow. :D (/me reads chinese)

Nya nya... as the Japanese would say cats meow.

No. I'm referring to actual Maori and Polyneisan people. For what's worth, there's a certain tribe in Africa where the women tattoo their entire face as a right of passge.

As far as I'm aware, the Mob members I've seen were actual Maori and Polynesians, though one of them may've been in blackface.

As far as I'm aware, the Mob members I've seen were actual Maori and Polynesians, though one of them may've been in blackface.

I'm talking about their tribal structure and customs, One-kun.

lol @ moralists.

Not necessarily. "I love you so much, I'm going to get a tatoo on my back of our names, and 'forever' inside a heart on my back!"
*Three weeks later after nasty breakup*
"My God, what was I thinking! Gotta get this removed..."

will post tattoo pics in a little bit.

Not necessarily. "I love you so much, I'm going to get a tatoo on my back of our names, and 'forever' inside a heart on my back!"
*Three weeks later after nasty breakup*
"My God, what was I thinking! Gotta get this removed..."

There's a really good billboard advert for that over here, I'll try and get a pic.

Not necessarily. "I love you so much, I'm going to get a tatoo on my back of our names, and 'forever' inside a heart on my back!"
*Three weeks later after nasty breakup*
"My God, what was I thinking! Gotta get this removed..."

Not uncommon.
Of course the one I always remember was guy who got the Brit footballer Andy Cole done on his leg in a fucking huge tattoo, in a newcastle strip. Two days later Cole left for Man U.
http://www.epltalk.com/cole-brings-the-curtain-down-on-career/3731

No. I'm referring to actual Maori and Polyneisan people. For what's worth, there's a certain tribe in Africa where the women tattoo their entire face as a right of passge.

There are many indigenous people who used facial tattoos on both men and women. The Inuit only fairly recently were forced to discontinue this pracitce (in the 50s). It's one I'd like to see come back, to be honest. I think it's beautiful. The Yupik (http://www.larskrutak.com/articles/Thread_Needle/) also have a tradition of female facial tattoos.

Nya nya... as the Japanese would say cats meow.

That sounds like they're taunting someone

<.<


Sigh... I have to


Pics?

I have most of the piercings in the left ear...

RIGHT EAR

http://www.weaselhut.net/LEFTIE.JPG

LEFT EAR

http://www.weaselhut.net/RIGHTIE.JPG

i hear ear piercing is really irritating to have done (no pun intended;)), if you let the skin heal over again you have to pierce it again right?

Yes you do. I've done that quite a few times over my life. Piercings are painless for me because of it.

Wow, 11 piercings. I pierced my left ear's cartilage one time. The piercing looked cool, until I started working with government. I was ordered to take it off.:(

That sucks.

I am a tattoo free zone, but if I were to get one, it would be on either of my ass cheeks with an arrow pointing left (or right, depending on the cheek) and the legend..."No Hamster Zone"...(I know your dead, but, sorry George)

While there are exceptions, and not counting a single tattoo, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.

Um, no, not really. There is probably an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and how much you want the sort of job where your employer is likely to care about tattoos. There is probably an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and how sensitive to pain you are. There is pretty definitely a direct relationship between how many tattoos you have and how much you like the look of tattoos. All of these statements are reasonable. Yours is inane.

As for me, I don't have any tattoos and don't especially want them, although I think it'd be great fun to play with henna tattoos sometime. I just don't think there's any drawing that's important enough to me that I want it emblazoned on my body forever. (I have idly considered having a tiny treble clef on my ankle off and on for years, and I'll probably keep idly considering it for decades, but I have very little doubt I'd never actually get such a tattoo. Plus, now Sin has it anyway, so she can just carry it around on my behalf. :p )

I don't have any tattoos. I wouldn't mind getting some, if I could think of something I particularly like.

Let's ask the expert: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9w4COa8Dp4

:D

"In case of emergency pull handle!"

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/olgavelez/LlovioVinuEnOvieu/Sofa_Tatuaje.jpg
Broken mirror, back of left shoulder.


:o

Malkavians among us!

While there are exceptions, and not counting a single tattoo, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.

University educated, working in sciences, only got one now, but looking at more...

I call bullshit.

:o

Malkavians among us!

Old news man, old news. *points at LG*

On the left side of my lower back. I wanted it at the back of my neck but the type of work I do wouldn't allow it.

Those runes look like a neat design to have for a tattoo. Now, as for the message, just think about something meaningful to you, a certain quote or passage or phrase that speaks to you, write it with the runes and take it to the artist.

And no, you're not that much of a nerd. You just like unusual stuff.

I have a couple. All of them reside on my back. As a professional it is not good to have visable tattoos so good call Nanatsu chan. Mine are all script writing and say: Pain is Love (relative to the pain of the world and Christ's love for it. The suffering you endure for those you love shows how much you care). I have the letters NBK (Natural Born Killer) on my spine right in the middle. My uncle (may he RIP and Semper Fi to a great Marine) took me to get that in a drunken state at 17. I am now going to get one with my mother's initials, most likely on my spine as well. She died after a fight with cancer this past Sunday. We buried her yesterday. For me tats have to have meaning for you to put them on your body forever. All of mine hold such meaning to me.

Old news man, old news. *points at LG*

Malkavians among us!

While there are exceptions, and not counting a single tattoo, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.

My history professor, PhD and all, who has a few, disagrees with you.

So, basically, youre talking shit.

My history professor, PhD and all, who has a few, disagrees with you.

So, basically, youre talking shit.

For whatever reason a vast majority of employers disagree. Tattoos and Mohawk haircuts are about on par with each other. Are you going to tell me how your Physics professor has a mohawk and purple hair too?

For whatever reason a vast majority of employers disagree.

Its a generational thing.

And it doesnt matter as much as it used to.

Again, youre talking shit.

You know whats funny? I remember you tolling the last tattoo thread that was made too. Be careful, or you'll get modded.

Ok allow me to rephrase, alot of stupid people choose to get tattoos.

True. A lot of stupid people vote. We can easily see this as evidence in our current occupant. A lot of smart people vote as well. Thank you for rephrasing because the blanket statement you made before is not suitable.

My history professor, PhD and all, who has a few, disagrees with you.

So, basically, youre talking shit.

I actually had an interview with the Dean of a private university regarding a doctoral program. I noticed he had a tattoo on his forearm and it struck me as odd. Broad brush strokes don't work unless you're Jackson Pollack.

Its a generational thing.

And it doesnt matter as much as it used to.

Again, youre talking shit.

You know whats funny? I remember you tolling the last tattoo thread that was made too. Be careful, or you'll get modded.

For what expressing an opinion? I dont think so. It wasnt trolling then and it isnt now. In fact the thread back then was split into two, one discussing the virtues and wisdom of tattoos and other talking about specific designs.

For whatever reason a vast majority of employers disagree.

No, what they disagree about is the presentation and professional look of tattoos. Not intelligence.


I have three:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/zbronto/P9220058.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/zbronto/P4260029.jpg
and the Bruins (http://www.sportslogos.net/images/logos/1/3/full/27.gif) logo on my left calf.

Next one I'm planning is "This too will end" on my wrist, but given the potential for military service, I'll be waiting on this a little while.

Malkavians among us!
Walk, skip and roll through mud :)
For whatever reason a vast majority of employers disagree. Tattoos and Mohawk haircuts are about on par with each other. Are you going to tell me how your Physics professor has a mohawk and purple hair too?

Tattoos and mohakws don't look "professional" in some lines of work. But not all. How does this suggest a positive correlation between number of tattoos and stupidity?

Walk, skip and roll through mud :)


Tattoos and mohakws don't look "professional" in some lines of work. But not all. How does this suggest a positive correlation between number of tattoos and stupidity?

Because moralists like IF said so.

Walk, skip and roll through mud :)


Tattoos and mohakws don't look "professional" in some lines of work. But not all. How does this suggest a positive correlation between number of tattoos and stupidity?

In that the stupidest among us, the gang bangers,prisoners, the Rock bands, criminals etc all seem to favor them in a much greater % then the general population by far thus bringing down the IQ average for the group dramatically.

Because moralists like IF said so.

Oh my god, you've opened my eyes!
*constructs laser weapon*
*de-tattoos world*

Because moralists like IF said so.

Im far from a moralist but I have no reservations in calling a spade a spade.

In that the stupidest among us, the gang bangers,
I'll give you that one, not the smartest group going, probably.
the professional criminals,
Professional crime is a more violent and dangerous version of professional business. If you're stupid you'll end up in jail before you get to professional.
the Rock bands etc
Rock bands are stupid, you say? I suppose you have nothing more to back that up than your opinion either, do you?
all seem to favor them in a much greater % then the general population by far thus bringing down the IQ average for the group dramatically.

Not necessarily.
Im far from a moralist but I have no reservations in calling people with tattoos idiots indirectly
Fixed.

Im far from a moralist but I have no reservations in calling a spade a spade.

Neither do I, and what I see right now is someone making bullshit broad brush strokes and doing some really transparent moral preaching.

Neither do I, and what I see right now is someone making bullshit broad brush strokes and doing some really transparent moral preaching.

Im entitled to my opinion and im not telling you in the slightest what to think or do so an accusation of preaching falls short. Also, please tell me how broad my strokes are allowed to be from now on as i wasnt aware there was a maximum.

I got my first tattoo a little over a month ago and am planning my second.

First is 'courage' over my shoulder.

So I had one of my nipples pierced a while back and it never healed so I eventually took it out. After learning more about piercings, and aftercare, I think I'm going to get both done again.

Question is...is this ever a problem going through metal detectors? I do that a lot.

Oh my god, you've opened my eyes!
*constructs laser weapon*
*de-tattoos world*

No keep the tattoos, it serves as a visual early warning system to everyone else. (Just kidding, just kidding)

So I had one of my nipples pierced a while back and it never healed so I eventually took it out. After learning more about piercings, and aftercare, I think I'm going to get both done again.

Question is...is this ever a problem going through metal detectors? I do that a lot.

Sounds like a porn movie plot...
"Miss, are you wearing a wire bra."
"No, but I can show you what is making your, ahem, detector go off."

Im entitled to my opinion and im not telling you in the slightest what to think or do so an accusation of preaching falls short. Also, please tell me how broad my strokes are allowed to be from now on as i wasnt aware there was a maximum.
Unfortunately by expressing your opinion you're thereby opening it up to criticism and ridicule. You happen to be of an opinion that is littered with logical fallacies, comes to incorrect conclusions regardless and is increasingly being shown in this thread to have been formulated on incorrect premises. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when you voice it we're entitled to say how fucking genius or stupid it happens to be.
So I had one of my nipples pierced a while back and it never healed so I eventually took it out. After learning more about piercings, and aftercare, I think I'm going to get both done again.

Question is...is this ever a problem going through metal detectors? I do that a lot.

Hrm....I've heard conflicting stories on this, but from what I've heard directly from people who've had them you should be fine? Obviously this is something you should probably ask your local piercing shop or whatever rather than risk having your boobies frisked for transporting bombs.

Unfortunately by expressing your opinion you're thereby opening it up to criticism and ridicule. You happen to be of an opinion that is littered with logical fallacies, comes to incorrect conclusions regardless and is increasingly being shown in this thread to have been formulated on incorrect premises. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when you voice it we're entitled to say how fucking genius or stupid it happens to be.


Criticize away, i have no problems with that, i also disagree with your characterization of my points but thats also fine. My objection was specific and it was to not accuse me of moralistic preaching when i have done nothing of the sort, no more no less.

So I had one of my nipples pierced a while back and it never healed so I eventually took it out. After learning more about piercings, and aftercare, I think I'm going to get both done again.

Question is...is this ever a problem going through metal detectors? I do that a lot.

nope. I have my nape, ears, and eyebrow all pierced...never set one off, regardless of what I have in them at any given time.

So I had one of my nipples pierced a while back and it never healed so I eventually took it out. After learning more about piercings, and aftercare, I think I'm going to get both done again.

Question is...is this ever a problem going through metal detectors? I do that a lot.

Google tells me it has happened, but I can't imagine it's happen much more than with piercings of any other kind.

For whatever reason a vast majority of employers disagree. Tattoos and Mohawk haircuts are about on par with each other. Are you going to tell me how your Physics professor has a mohawk and purple hair too?

Actually, at the last company I worked for in the UK (doing a lot of work with blue chip companies), at least two of the management had what I believe they call 'faux-hawk' hair styles. I know at least one of them also had at least one tattoo.

A lot of employers don't mind tattoos so long as they are relatively unobtrusive - so FACIAL tattoos might arouse a response.

But, it depends where you are, also. Government jobs (as already mentioned) might have tighter rules. Georgia might be less tattoo-friendly than New York. That kind of thing.

In that the stupidest among us, the gang bangers,prisoners, the Rock bands, criminals etc all seem to favor them in a much greater % then the general population by far thus bringing down the IQ average for the group dramatically.

Where are you getting your statistics from, I wonder. I ask because I would say... maybe half of the people I knew at University had a tattoo, if not more. Which suggests that - in THIS generation - the smarter you are, the more likely you are to have a tattoo... no?

Where are you getting your statistics from, I wonder. I ask because I would say... maybe half of the people I knew at University had a tattoo, if not more. Which suggests that - in THIS generation - the smarter you are, the more likely you are to have a tattoo... no?

Yea and almost all of the prisoners do, your still not going to bring up the group average enough. But i do acknowledge that it has become a slightly more acceptable fad in the last 10 years.

One of these days I want a tattoo of a Triskellion on my Bicep area...

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6757/33ct1dn1.gif

Possibly in Woad...or I may just leave it black...havent decided...

Yea and almost all of the prisoners do, your still not going to bring up the group average enough.

And yet, still not a single statistic or source...

Yea and almost all of the prisoners do, your still not going to bring up the group average enough.

All of which prisoners?

I'm picking a state:

Florida - prison population tops 100,000 in 2008 (which is why I picked it).

Miami Dade College: 54,000

University of Florida: 50,000

University of Central Florida: 45,000

University of South Florida: 42,000

Florida State University: 39,000


If we assume only HALF of our students have one-or-more, and that ALL of our prisoners have one or more and if we ONLY include the top five higher ed. establishments, and if we include ALL prisoners, and ALL prisons...

Making all those assumptions (which I'm sure you are aware are hedging pretty heavily):


115,000 students v's 100,000 prisoners.


Conclusion:

The smarter you are, the more likely it is you have ink.

Yea and almost all of the prisoners do, your still not going to bring up the group average enough.

20 years, maybe... I haven't been at a university in the last decade (unless you include remote education).

Which is why I keep saying - you're a generation off.

You know, the truth of the matter is that tats are more or less mainstream now and have been long enough that even Clydes have 'em, so you have to be some sort of super-mega Clyde to still have a problem with them.

I just got my first one. Our flag waving in the wind with the end frayed

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/26/testamenttshirtrp9.jpg

that's what i'd have, only not blurry. upper left arm.

All of which prisoners?

I'm picking a state:

Florida - prison population tops 100,000 in 2008 (which is why I picked it).

Miami Dade College: 54,000

University of Florida: 50,000

University of Central Florida: 45,000

University of South Florida: 42,000

Florida State University: 39,000


If we assume only HALF of our students have one-or-more, and that ALL of our prisoners have one or more and if we ONLY include the top five higher ed. establishments, and if we include ALL prisoners, and ALL prisons...

Making all those assumptions (which I'm sure you are aware are hedging pretty heavily):


115,000 students v's 100,000 prisoners.


Conclusion:

The smarter you are, the more likely it is you have ink.

Now add gangbangers, skinheads and rednecks and your behind again :P

I want a tattoo.

I'm saving money for one. Hopefully I'll be able to get one around April so I can show it off during the summer!

Now add gangbangers, skinheads and rednecks and your behind again :P
According to the NCES, there were 4,236 "degree-granting institutions" in the US in 2003-2004, 2,530 of which are four-year.

In 2005, 17,487,475 degrees were awarded, 14,473,884 of which were undergraduate, 10,999,420 from four-year institutions.

In 2005, 1,525,924 prisoners were held by state and federal authorities.

Throw in as many gang bangers, skinheads, and rednecks you want. Even with a conservative estimate of 1/8th of four-year graduates having tattoos, that's still 1,374,927. For one year. Multiply that yearly (the prison population would also grow, but each graduating class is only counted once, where prisoners would be counted for several years) and you have an exponentially higher number.

Assuming that graduation rate since 2005 (I believe it has actually increased significantly), and using 1/8th having tattoos, and that is 5,499,710 people with tattoos and a degree.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/pripropr.htm
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d04/tables/dt04_244.asp
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908742.html


And it's "you're".

According to the NCES, there were 4,236 "degree-granting institutions" in the US in 2003-2004, 2,530 of which are four-year.

In 2005, 17,487,475 degrees were awarded, 14,473,884 of which were undergraduate, 10,999,420 from four-year institutions.

In 2005, 1,525,924 prisoners were held by state and federal authorities.

Throw in as many gang bangers, skinheads, and rednecks you want. Even with a conservative estimate of 1/8th of four-year graduates having tattoos, that's still 1,374,927. For one year. Multiply that yearly (the prison population would also grow, but each graduating class is only counted once, where prisoners would be counted for several years) and you have an exponentially higher number.

Assuming that graduation rate since 2005 (I believe it has actually increased significantly), and using 1/8th having tattoos, and that is 5,499,710 people with tattoos and a degree.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/pripropr.htm
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d04/tables/dt04_244.asp
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908742.html


And it's "you're".
Not to mention that his definition excludes 'rednecks, gang bangers, and skin heads' from being college students, but not from being prison inmates, so his own population has a great deal of crossover.

And, you know, is stupid and ffha. No doubt he sees someone with tattoos and if they're black, they're gang bangers, white and bald skin heads, white with hair rednecks without any further examination than they have tattoos. I have no reason to accept this person's classification of people especially since it would definitely appear that a major criteria is, "Do they have tattoos?"

Now add gangbangers, skinheads and rednecks and your behind again :P

I haven't been to a post-secondary institution. I don't have a degree of any kind, nor am working towards one like most of the NSG populace. I do have tattoos. What am I:

a) a gangbanger
b) a skinhead
c) a redneck
d) a criminal

or for bonus points, any other sort of social undesirable that kindly falls under the broad generalization that by rebelling against the system is a good indicator of intelligence.

This would be about right I don't come on here for 3-4 days and I miss out on a thread like this.

Sometimes I can never get the luck.

So with the Jigsaw tattoo that I want, what it's basically going to be is a tattoo that look like a jigsaw piece has been cut into my skin. This will include blood.

What would be the best placement for such a tattoo?

So with the Jigsaw tattoo that I want, what it's basically going to be is a tattoo that look like a jigsaw piece has been cut into my skin. This will include blood.

What would be the best placement for such a tattoo?

Guess. :wink:

Guess. :wink:

I may watch SAW I tonight to see where it was cut into.

So with the Jigsaw tattoo that I want, what it's basically going to be is a tattoo that look like a jigsaw piece has been cut into my skin. This will include blood.

What would be the best placement for such a tattoo?
The best placement for any tattoo is the penis. Or, perhaps, the testicles.
It makes you so goddamned manly.

Oh please how many Polynesian warriors do you know?The entire Cook Islands National Rugby Team. ^^

Back on topic: Nice ink, everybody! I used to have a different opinion of tattoos, gleaned from Red vs. Blue:

Church's Bulleted List
Tattoos are permanent.
You are a god damn idiot.
Red sucks. Blue rules.

"Take your current age. Now subtract 10 years from it. Were you smart back then? Of course you weren't! You were a god damn idiot! The fact of the matter is, you're just as big of an idiot today, it's just gonna take you 10 more years to realize it. Now think if you had drawn a picture on your body 10 years ago. Would you be happy with it today? Chances are, you wouldn't be."

Yes, I actually dug that up and transcribed it. ^^

That said, I've revised my opinion somewhat. Firstly, my friend designed her own tattoo and it looks wonderful. Secondly, I'm apparently good at designing my own tattoos! Thirdly, I think that the pattern on Revy's right arm in Black Lagoon looks obscenely cool (although I can't dual-wield Beretta 92Fs). :D

As soon as my wallet stops making me a sad panda, I might have to get something neat.

I have most of the piercings in the left ear...

RIGHT EAR

http://www.weaselhut.net/LEFTIE.JPG

LEFT EAR

http://www.weaselhut.net/RIGHTIE.JPG



I rate these as 'Very Nice'

I give them two thumbs up and a "Shiny, cap'n!" rating.

I give them two thumbs up and a "Shiny, cap'n!" rating.

To be brutally honest i half hoped to see more than the ears :p

I rate these as 'Very Nice'

Thanks. :)

I prefer small hoops and studs to the larger variety. Small is more. I find large studs garish, large hoops gaudy and don't get me started on the long dangling earrings or the ones that make a huge hole in your ear...

So with the Jigsaw tattoo that I want, what it's basically going to be is a tattoo that look like a jigsaw piece has been cut into my skin. This will include blood.

What would be the best placement for such a tattoo?

On a nice piece of paper.

On a nice piece of paper.

Still spewing your trollish bullshit, eh? So, have you found that study examining the inverse relation between IQ and number of tattoos?

The entire Cook Islands National Rugby Team. ^^

Back on topic: Nice ink, everybody! I used to have a different opinion of tattoos, gleaned from Red vs. Blue:


Yes, I actually dug that up and transcribed it. ^^

That said, I've revised my opinion somewhat. Firstly, my friend designed her own tattoo and it looks wonderful. Secondly, I'm apparently good at designing my own tattoos! Thirdly, I think that the pattern on Revy's right arm in Black Lagoon looks obscenely cool (although I can't dual-wield Beretta 92Fs). :D

As soon as my wallet stops making me a sad panda, I might have to get something neat.
So long as I'm still stupid in 10 years...;)
Still spewing your trollish bullshit, eh? So, have you found that study examining the inverse relation between IQ and number of tattoos?
I'm sure he has dozens of academic articles waiting to go...he's just writing up his summaries for us, and that's why it's taking so long.

By the way, is the shield tat new? My roommate got one not too long ago from Ruben which looks amazing...getting it turned into a half sleve sometime this month (and just got the ska guy yesterday, which I've been mocking him for)

So long as I'm still stupid in 10 years...;)

I'm sure he has dozens of academic articles waiting to go...he's just writing up his summaries for us, and that's why it's taking so long.

By the way, is the shield tat new? My roommate got one not too long ago from Ruben which looks amazing...getting it turned into a half sleve sometime this month (and just got the ska guy yesterday, which I've been mocking him for)

None of my tattoos are new at this point. The penny one is the newest, and I'm pretty sure I got it in 2007. The shield one would have been in 2006, I think.

Still spewing your trollish bullshit, eh? So, have you found that study examining the inverse relation between IQ and number of tattoos?

LOL Ive obviously touched a nerve. Suck it up dear, your not always going to make smart decisions in your life, im sure this is just one of many. Come talk to me in 20 years.

LOL Ive obviously touched a nerve. Suck it up dear, your not always going to make smart decisions in your life, im sure this is just one of many. Come talk to me in 20 years.

Troll is trolling. Bad troll.

LOL Ive obviously touched a nerve. Suck it up dear, your not always going to make smart decisions in your life, im sure this is just one of many. Come talk to me in 20 years.

So, in other words, no, you don't have anything resembling evidence?

Troll is trolling. Bad troll.

Even though you badly want it to be so, simply calling someone a troll does not make it so, and its a horridly weak response in and of itself, try better next time.

So, in other words, no, you don't have anything resembling evidence?

Yes the tens of thousands of people who realize what a mistake they made as they got older and got them removed, is that enough evidence?

Tattoos get old and faded and wrinkly just like people do, you put your art on a nice piece of acid free paper and it will last longer then you will.

Even though you badly want it to be so, simply calling someone a troll does not make it so, and its a horridly weak response in and of itself, try better next time.

The post I quoted was evidence.

"your not always going to make smart decisions in your life, im sure this is just one of many"

That, is trolling, because it is insulting to who it's aimed at.

Yes the tens of thousands of people who realize what a mistake they made as they got older and got them removed, is that enough evidence?

That's not evidence at all, actually. I'm beginning to think you've got dozens of tattoos you're not aware of. Because you seem to have forgotten your words yet again, I will refresh your memory:

While there are exceptions, and not counting a single tattoo, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.

So. Either provide evidence of the inverse relationship between the number of tattoos a person has and their IQ, or admit you don't have a leg to stand on and are just completely full of shit.

The post I quoted was evidence.

"your not always going to make smart decisions in your life, im sure this is just one of many"

That, is trolling, because it is insulting to who it's aimed at.

Really so what would you describe the phrase "Still spewing your trollish bullshit, eh? " that i was responding to? Reasonable discourse? Mind you i wasnt even referring to anything that that particular person even posted.

Really so what would you describe the phrase "Still spewing your trollish bullshit, eh? " that i was responding to? Reasonable discourse? Mind you i wasnt even referring to anything that that particular person even posted.

Yeah, that's because, y'know, you're trolling.

Yeah, that's because, y'know, you're trolling.

Since your not a mod feel free to keep your opinion to yourself.

LOL Ive obviously touched a nerve. Suck it up dear, your not always going to make smart decisions in your life, im sure this is just one of many. Come talk to me in 20 years.
You're. Not your. Still.

Even though you badly want it to be so, simply calling someone a troll does not make it so, and its a horridly weak response in and of itself, try better next time.
No, but your actions do speak pretty clearly. Unless you have some form of evidence to back up your assertion that there is a correlation between IQ and the number of tattoos one has that you are about to reveal...
Yes the tens of thousands of people who realize what a mistake they made as they got older and got them removed, is that enough evidence?No, it isn't. It demonstrates that some people who get tattoos later have them removed for dozens of reasons. That says nothing about IQ. Changing ones mind is not intelligence.
Oh, and any source that it is tens of thousands of people, or is that a number you pulled out of your ass, along with your other assertions?

Tattoos get old and faded and wrinkly just like people do, you put your art on a nice piece of acid free paper and it will last longer then you will.
Why would I want art to outlast me? Particularly art of a highly personal nature?

Really so what would you describe the phrase "Still spewing your trollish bullshit, eh? " that i was responding to? Reasonable discourse? Mind you i wasnt even referring to anything that that particular person even posted.

Ah, for fuck's sake, dude, we get it. You're a Clyde with an outdated concept of people with tattoos who makes a specious correlation between intelligence and tattoos that relies on more outdated stereotypes that you have no ability nor inclination to back up. Done, got it. In fact continuing to post with backhanded insults to the people in the thread who have tattoos (which is what you're doing) has gone beyond your 'opinion' that tattooed people are stupid to trolling. You're not adding new information or buttressing your original point, you're trying (and succeeding) and getting Sdj-whatsit's dander up, which is trolling. That's fine, if that's the way you get your jollies, whatever. I personally have never understood the thrill in trying to piss people off, but then I never pulled the wings off flies and the like so that's between you and the therapist you likely should be seeing. The innocent routine, kind of painful to watch, like a kid covered in frosting trying to convince us he didn't eat the cake. So, can we take your Clyde-ness as granted and allow the discussion to move past your narrow objection? If we all turned around and paid attention to you for a full minute would you let the grown folks have a discussion, then?

http://www.articlesbase.com/health-articles/make-an-educated-decision-tattoo-removal-is-a-long-process-262546.html

Less then 3% of Americans have tattoos so i call complete bullshit on even remotely half of any student population in university having them. There are probably less then 1% of Americans with 2 or more.

"There is an estimated 10 million Americans that have at least one tattoo"

And seeing how its such an incredibly good idea..."One half of all people with tattoos have considered removing them. "

And despite the fact that its such a great idea, many are willing to do this..."Tattoo removal is definitely not cheap. A tattoo that costs $40.00 to have it put on can cost $4500.00 to have removed by laser, taking a year or more. Plus, it would leave a scar shaped like the tattoo that would not tan."

http://www.articlesbase.com/health-articles/make-an-educated-decision-tattoo-removal-is-a-long-process-262546.html

Less then 3% of Americans have tattoos so i call bullshit on even remotely half of any student population in university having them.

"There is an estimated 10 million Americans that have at least one tattoo"

And seeing how its such an incredibly good idea..."One half of all people with tattoos have considered removing them. "

And despite the fact that its such a great idea, many are willing to do this..."Tattoo removal is definitely not cheap. A tattoo that costs $40.00 to have it put on can cost $4500.00 to have removed by laser, taking a year or more. Plus, it would leave a scar shaped like the tattoo that would not tan."

And that proves that more tattoos = less intelligent?

And despite the fact that its such a great idea, many are willing to do this..."Tattoo removal is definitely not cheap. A tattoo that costs $40.00 to have it put on can cost $4500.00 to have removed by laser, taking a year or more. Plus, it would leave a scar shaped like the tattoo that would not tan."

That's a bit out of date, despite being only 2007. I did a show on that (The Works Tattoo episode, History Channel-I normally don't name the shows I've worked on but for sourcing's sake I'll do it), first of all tattoo's were a $150 minimum, the artist's charged $150/hour with a one hour min. Second, the removal process took about an hour and was described by the producer (the room was too small for me to be in it) as like watching an eraser go over the skin. The same device was used to remove a mole from the producer while the camera operator and audio mixer packed up their gear. I didn't get word on the cost, I didn't watch the finished show. I hardly ever do.

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Just a question, but what is a Clyde? Like a Todd or a Chad? In fact, I consult Urban Dictionary, making this comment redundant.

Just a question, but what is a Clyde? Like a Todd or a Chad? In fact, I consult Urban Dictionary, making this comment redundant.

You! Haha...no, but go with definition 2. It's really a Nedism (from The Simpsons, his fire safety play, "No way, baby, smoke alarms are for Clydes..." Essentially a square.


Also, looks like the producer accurately described the way the removal works (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXHA6Ws8aRo), that's less than a minute. A far cry from hours.

Also, looks like the producer accurately described the way the removal works (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXHA6Ws8aRo), that's less than a minute. A far cry from hours.

An interesting point according to your video, the tattoo removal industry is growing at a faster rate then the tattoo installing business.

An interesting point according to your video, the tattoo removal industry is growing at a faster rate then the tattoo installing business.

Tattoo installing? Is that a Linux distro or something?

You know, the truth of the matter is that tats are more or less mainstream now and have been long enough that even Clydes have 'em, so you have to be some sort of super-mega Clyde to still have a problem with them.
Clyde, lol.
According to the NCES, there were 4,236 "degree-granting institutions" in the US in 2003-2004, 2,530 of which are four-year.

In 2005, 17,487,475 degrees were awarded, 14,473,884 of which were undergraduate, 10,999,420 from four-year institutions.

In 2005, 1,525,924 prisoners were held by state and federal authorities.

Throw in as many gang bangers, skinheads, and rednecks you want. Even with a conservative estimate of 1/8th of four-year graduates having tattoos, that's still 1,374,927. For one year. Multiply that yearly (the prison population would also grow, but each graduating class is only counted once, where prisoners would be counted for several years) and you have an exponentially higher number.

Assuming that graduation rate since 2005 (I believe it has actually increased significantly), and using 1/8th having tattoos, and that is 5,499,710 people with tattoos and a degree.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/press/pripropr.htm
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d04/tables/dt04_244.asp
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0908742.html


And it's "you're".
And there's plenty of intelligent people outside college who have degrees. And intelligent people in jail with tattoos.
I haven't been to a post-secondary institution. I don't have a degree of any kind, nor am working towards one like most of the NSG populace. I do have tattoos. What am I:

a) a gangbanger
b) a skinhead
c) a redneck
d) a criminal

or for bonus points, any other sort of social undesirable that kindly falls under the broad generalization that by rebelling against the system is a good indicator of intelligence.
You're a spammer, clearly.
Yes the tens of thousands of people who realize what a mistake they made as they got older and got them removed, is that enough evidence?
No. If they were stupid, why would they decide to remove their tattoos? Wouldn't a stupid person keep it?

Tattoos get old and faded and wrinkly just like people do, you put your art on a nice piece of acid free paper and it will last longer then you will.
They can be touched up.
Since your not a mod feel free to keep your opinion to yourself.
Since you're not an authority on the relationship between tattoos and IQ you can do the same, eh?
http://www.articlesbase.com/health-articles/make-an-educated-decision-tattoo-removal-is-a-long-process-262546.html

Less then 3% of Americans have tattoos so i call complete bullshit on even remotely half of any student population in university having them.
3% of Americans could be mostly in college. Simple.

"There is an estimated 10 million Americans that have at least one tattoo"

And seeing how its such an incredibly good idea..."One half of all people with tattoos have considered removing them. "

And despite the fact that its such a great idea, many are willing to do this..."Tattoo removal is definitely not cheap. A tattoo that costs $40.00 to have it put on can cost $4500.00 to have removed by laser, taking a year or more. Plus, it would leave a scar shaped like the tattoo that would not tan."
Nobody said it's a good idea. You're saying that only stupid people do it. Do try to keep up with yourself. If only stupid people get tattoos, then why would they ever get them removed?

Tattoos are ick, and so are piercings.

Im far from a moralist but I have no reservations in calling a spade a spade.

Or bleating through what you're sitting on.

i hear ear piercing is really irritating to have done (no pun intended;)), if you let the skin heal over again you have to pierce it again right?
Not for me. No matter how long I leave my ears without earrings, the holes never grow over. Just lucky, I guess. Yes, I mean the piercings in my lobes, not the ear canals....

I can show you the first 2 tattoos I have. I need to take a pic of the one I got yesterday.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/olgavelez/LlovioVinuEnOvieu/Sofa_Tatuaje.jpg
Broken mirror, back of left shoulder.
Malkavian? :)

While there are exceptions, and not counting a single tattoo, there seems to be an inverse relationship between the number of tattoos you have and your IQ.
Hmm. Odd. I know plenty of MAs, MSs, and a couple of PHds with ink. That said, I'm too wary of pain and know I am too impulsive to choose something I'd be willing to wear for the rest of my life.

Ok allow me to rephrase, alot of stupid people choose to get tattoos.
And a lot of stupid people choose not to get tattoos. Your point?

Even though you badly want it to be so, simply calling someone a troll does not make it so, and its a horridly weak response in and of itself, try better next time.
Well then, let me try.

Is poster interested in tattoos or sharing pics of their tattoos? No.

Is poster calling people who have tattoos unintelligent, criminal, or otherwise socially unacceptable? Yes.

Did poster just post patronizingly about someone's life decision, which they are comfortable with, as a mistake and one of many they will make? Yes.

Has poster provided a shred of evidence for his assertion that having tattoos tends to indicate stupidity? No.

You see where we're headed with this?

He's not completely out of line. Tattoos have long been associated more with TPT than education, and while some folks might enjoy getting a tattoo to rebel against The Man while in college, you can't void him completely. His presentation might have lacked style, but the correlation isn't completely without merit.

I've never understood tattoos. Mostly because of the whole once-you-age angle.

He's not completely out of line. Tattoos have long been associated more with TPT than education, and while some folks might enjoy getting a tattoo to rebel against The Man while in college, you can't void him completely. His presentation might have lacked style, but the correlation isn't completely without merit.

I've never understood tattoos. Mostly because of the whole once-you-age angle.
Well, since he asserts that tattoos tend to be had by the unintelligent, I for one would like to see his source. Surely there must be a study that supports his theory.

Well, since he asserts that tattoos tend to be had by the unintelligent, I for one would like to see his source. Surely there must be a study that supports his theory.

There isn't. He did the exact same thing before. Its trolling pure and simple.

http://www.articlesbase.com/health-articles/make-an-educated-decision-tattoo-removal-is-a-long-process-262546.html

Less then 3% of Americans have tattoos so i call complete bullshit on even remotely half of any student population in university having them. There are probably less then 1% of Americans with 2 or more.

"There is an estimated 10 million Americans that have at least one tattoo"

And seeing how its such an incredibly good idea..."One half of all people with tattoos have considered removing them. "

And despite the fact that its such a great idea, many are willing to do this..."Tattoo removal is definitely not cheap. A tattoo that costs $40.00 to have it put on can cost $4500.00 to have removed by laser, taking a year or more. Plus, it would leave a scar shaped like the tattoo that would not tan."

About 40%-60% new marriages end in divorce (And that's not just consider divorce, its those who go through with it). This proves that marriage is for stupid people, just like tattoos!

Democrats are more likely to have tattoos (18%) than Republicans (14%) and Independents (12%)
Tattooing appears to be evenly spread throughout the United States with the West Coast having the most per capita
There's your proof! ;)

Many Americans who do not have tattoos said they think that people with tattoos are less attractive (42%), less sexy (36%) and less intelligent (31%).
There's what I was saying.

Oh and in the interest of keeping people honest, my research indicates that the only major recent poll done on tattooing in America showed that 17% of tattooed respondents answered yes to the question "Do you ever regret getting a tattoo?". Of these 17%, 16% answered this way "because of the person's name in the tattoo".

http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo_facts.htm#Harris_Poll

Yes the tens of thousands of people who realize what a mistake they made as they got older and got them removed, is that enough evidence?


And the hundreds of thousands that don't have them removed?

There's your proof! ;)
How are your assertions at all proof of intelligence, and what were the sources?

How are your assertions at all proof of intelligence, and what were the sources?

I gave my source at the very bottom, and I'm sorry the wink wasn't enough - I was kidding.

http://www.articlesbase.com/health-articles/make-an-educated-decision-tattoo-removal-is-a-long-process-262546.html

Less then 3% of Americans have tattoos so i call complete bullshit on even remotely half of any student population in university having them. There are probably less then 1% of Americans with 2 or more.

"There is an estimated 10 million Americans that have at least one tattoo"

And seeing how its such an incredibly good idea..."One half of all people with tattoos have considered removing them. "

And despite the fact that its such a great idea, many are willing to do this..."Tattoo removal is definitely not cheap. A tattoo that costs $40.00 to have it put on can cost $4500.00 to have removed by laser, taking a year or more. Plus, it would leave a scar shaped like the tattoo that would not tan."

I saw your link, and I followed it. I thought - "that's interesting"... given that the US prison population on it's own is currently about 3 million... why do they cite such a low number?"

So I looked for where they got their numbers. You know what I found?

That '10 million' number... which I've now seen cited in several different places... comes from a Life Magazine estimate... published more than a decade ago.

Did you know that the American Academy of Dermatology said (in 2006) 36% of Americans between 18 and 29 have at least one tattoo?

Did you know that a 2000 National Geographic estimate put the current tattoo population at 40 million Americans?

There's your proof! ;)


There's what I was saying.

Oh and in the interest of keeping people honest, my research indicates that the only major recent poll done on tattooing in America showed that 17% of tattooed respondents answered yes to the question "Do you ever regret getting a tattoo?". Of these 17%, 16% answered this way "because of the person's name in the tattoo".

http://www.vanishingtattoo.com/tattoo_facts.htm#Harris_Poll

That seems to address people's attitude towards tattoos, and 69% of the people don't seem to have a stick up their ass about people with tattoos, feeling that it makes no difference.

Further, it seems that tatless Clydes are the only ones who think it's about 'rebellion' (57%) versus the 70% of tattooed people who feel it makes no difference. In fact, in the 'makes me feel' category the only time 'makes no difference' drops below 70fucking% is sexy, and that's only at 65%, indicating that overwhelmingly tattoos are an entirely personal decision not fueled by the Clyde's preconceptions about what motivates them.

There isn't. He did the exact same thing before. Its trolling pure and simple.

I'm inclined to agree. Every claim he has made has been easily shown to be false, and yet he just keeps repeating the same 'people with tattoos are stupid' mantra. Debate, and evidence, are clearly not goals.

That '10 million' number... which I've now seen cited in several different places... comes from a Life Magazine estimate... published more than a decade ago.

Did you know that a 2000 National Geographic estimate put the current tattoo population at 40 million Americans?

So in 1998 there were 10 million Americans with tattoos but in 2000 there were 40 million??? Something still doesnt add up.

Troll is trolling. Bad troll.

I saw the post in question over in moderation, and I'll tell you what I told KoL, it would take a stretch of the imagination to deem that trolling.

So in 1998 there were 10 million Americans with tattoos but in 2000 there were 40 million??? Something still doesnt add up.

Any idea what that something might be?
I saw the post in question over in moderation, and I'll tell you what I told KoL, it would take a stretch of the imagination to deem that trolling.
I have a very stretchy imagination. It allows for all manner of things :)

So in 1998 there were 10 million Americans with tattoos but in 2000 there were 40 million??? Something still doesnt add up.

In 1996 (more than a decade) Time Magazine estimated (estimated) 10 million.

In 2000, National Geographic estimated 40 million.

Tattooing IS one of the fastest growing industries in the US over the last decade. There's no mathematical conflict, there.

So in 1998 there were 10 million Americans with tattoos but in 2000 there were 40 million??? Something still doesnt add up.1996, not 1998. 30 million new people getting tattooed over four years in the middle of the largest rebirth of the art is not particularly surprising.

He's not completely out of line. Tattoos have long been associated more with TPT than education, and while some folks might enjoy getting a tattoo to rebel against The Man while in college, you can't void him completely. His presentation might have lacked style, but the correlation isn't completely without merit.

I've never understood tattoos. Mostly because of the whole once-you-age angle.

Uh huh...I don't know anyone who got a tattoo just to "rebel against The Man". Tattoos are almost always for highly personal reasons...not to rebel.

Uh huh...I don't know anyone who got a tattoo just to "rebel against The Man". Tattoos are almost always for highly personal reasons...not to rebel.
Maybe no one you know...
Additionally, those with tattoos said that having a tattoo has made them feel more rebellious (29%)

Uh huh...I don't know anyone who got a tattoo just to "rebel against The Man". Tattoos are almost always for highly personal reasons...not to rebel.

I'm sure some people have. There's stupid people in pretty much every group.

I saw the post in question over in moderation, and I'll tell you what I told KoL, it would take a stretch of the imagination to deem that trolling.

I do have a bias, there's a reason I'm not a mod, eh?

Ok allow me to rephrase, alot of stupid people choose to get tattoos.

A lot of stupid people vote, go to church, eat meat, have sex, etc... Are all of these things thereby rendered inherently stupid?

Barry Goldwater, for example, had tattoos. Perhaps that is why he lost his bid to be President of the U.S. :rolleyes:

For the record, I have two tatoos. One (on my wrist) that can theoretically be covered up, but is usual visible. The other is on my shoulder. Neither these tattoos nor my nose ring has effected my ability to get hired for any job I applied for, including positions with the U.S. Court of Appeals and with a major national law firm. But wadda I know, I'm just a dummy with a tattoo?

So in 1998 there were 10 million Americans with tattoos but in 2000 there were 40 million??? Something still doesnt add up.


These people do not have tattoos:

1. Bill Lumberg
2. Sarah Palin
3. Osama Bin Laden

Using the same backwards ass logic and broad brush strokes you have been using, I have concluded that these are the types of people who dont usually get tattoos:

1. Boring, conformist, robots
2. Religious fundamentalists whose ignorance runs so deep they dont know Africa isnt a country
3. Terrorists.

Therefore, I can safely conclude, using the same logic you have, that anyone without a tattoo must be one of the above.

But you didnt say everyone who got a tattoo is stupid, just most, I hear you say. Well then, I guess not everyone without a tattoo is a tool/dunce/war criminal, just most.

If you refute my statement, I will simply lolz and ask if I touched a nerve and tell you that youve made a lot of conformist/ignorant/homocidal decisions in your life, and this must just be one more, and to talk to me in 20 years.

EDIT: But you know who else didnt have tattoos? The eminent 20th Century Russian-American philosopher, Ayn Rand. So, maybe IF is on to something.

I understand that. That's why when I decided I was going to get the kanji for cat tattooed on me, I check that 1) it was the correct symbol
You'd be amazed how many people don't bother with this and end up with some rather interesting tattoos that they have no idea what it means.

My personal favs was the guy who had vinegar (酢) on his arm (I forget what he thought it was) and the guy who had leg (足) on his leg. It would have been coolly ironic, except that he didn't actually know what the kanji said.

I will have to say though, Nanatsu, have tattoos means that if you ever make it to Japan, you won't be allowed in the hot springs.

You'd be amazed how many people don't bother with this and end up with some rather interesting tattoos that they have no idea what it means.

My personal favs was the guy who had vinegar (酢) on his arm (I forget what he thought it was) and the guy who had leg (足) on his leg. It would have been coolly ironic, except that he didn't actually know what the kanji said.

I will have to say though, Nanatsu, have tattoos means that if you ever make it to Japan, you won't be allowed in the hot springs.

That's just sad. If I first saw that (and could read kanji), I would immediately assume that this person was probably cool and/or clever, only to be sadly mistaken upon trying to have a conversation.

You'd be amazed how many people don't bother with this and end up with some rather interesting tattoos that they have no idea what it means.

My personal favs was the guy who had vinegar (酢) on his arm (I forget what he thought it was) and the guy who had leg (足) on his leg. It would have been coolly ironic, except that he didn't actually know what the kanji said.

I will have to say though, Nanatsu, have tattoos means that if you ever make it to Japan, you won't be allowed in the hot springs.
I always wondered about inking yourself in a language you didn't understand -- what if the artist wrote "pretentious asshole" or something on you and you didn't know?

And why barred from the hot springs? to protect others against possible contaminants or to protect the person with the tattoo?

That's just sad. If I first saw that (and could read kanji), I would immediately assume that this person was probably cool and/or clever, only to be sadly mistaken upon trying to have a conversation.
a friend of mine got the lettering for "General Gao's Chicken" on his forearm to make it easier to order at the chinese takeout place.

And why barred from the hot springs? to protect others against possible contaminants or to protect the person with the tattoo?

They don't want stupid people drowning. Raises insurance premiums.

I always wondered about inking yourself in a language you didn't understand -- what if the artist wrote "pretentious asshole" or something on you and you didn't know?

And why barred from the hot springs? to protect others against possible contaminants or to protect the person with the tattoo?
Yeah, if I ever get a tattoo in any foreign language in which I am not literate, I will make damn sure to verify, through multiple sources, that I know exactly how to write the word/phrase that I wanted inked into me. And if that language does not use the Latin alphabet, then I will make damn sure that I bring a picture of the writing exactly as I want it drawn into me, and I will compare the final result to what I'm expecting and will have problems if it doesn't match up.

a friend of mine got the lettering for "General Gao's Chicken" on his forearm to make it easier to order at the chinese takeout place.

Awesome. Does it work? (And what are the employees' reactions?)

a friend of mine got the lettering for "General Gao's Chicken" on his forearm to make it easier to order at the chinese takeout place.

That is rather awesome.

That's just sad. If I first saw that (and could read kanji), I would immediately assume that this person was probably cool and/or clever, only to be sadly mistaken upon trying to have a conversation.
Which is exactly what happened.

I always wondered about inking yourself in a language you didn't understand -- what if the artist wrote "pretentious asshole" or something on you and you didn't know?
I've heard stories about that. Of course I find it generally ironic given the tendency for Japanese to wear clothing with English that makes little to no sense and that they do not understand. I guess its only fair that Westerners are starting to get kanji tattoos that they also don't understand and make little sense.

And why barred from the hot springs? to protect others against possible contaminants or to protect the person with the tattoo?
Because most Japanese (It's slowly, VERY slowly changing with the younger generations in the cities) associate tattoos with yakuza (Japanese mafia). Having a tattoo is grounds for removal from gyms, hot springs, public baths, and jobs if they become visible (and given that you bathe naked in both hot springs and public baths...).

Like I said, it's slowly changing, but most hot springs around my area all have signs that state no tattoos. This of course causes a problem with a lot of young foreigners who have inked themselves back at home with something small on their back for example and suddenly find they cannot go into these places in Japan because they might be part of the mob.

Because most Japanese (It's slowly, VERY slowly changing with the younger generations in the cities) associate tattoos with yakuza (Japanese mafia). Having a tattoo is grounds for removal from gyms, hot springs, public baths, and jobs if they become visible (and given that you bathe naked in both hot springs and public baths...).

Like I said, it's slowly changing, but most hot springs around my area all have signs that state no tattoos. This of course causes a problem with a lot of young foreigners who have inked themselves back at home with something small on their back for example and suddenly find they cannot go into these places in Japan because they might be part of the mob.

Thats actually kind of funny.

:o

Malkavians among us!

Yes, the Lunatics are here to stay!!!

But the reason I got the broken mirror has another meaning. Read Alice Through the Looking Glass a few years ago and suddenly I got the idea of the following: What if Alice, as she was passing through the mirror whilst becoming an adult (as the book states), in that instant, the mirror had broken into a million shards? Would she be an incomplete person? I felt like that, when I got the tattoo. Still do on occasion.

And Kat-sama, yes!! I is the Malkie!!!:D

You'd be amazed how many people don't bother with this and end up with some rather interesting tattoos that they have no idea what it means.

*SNIP*

I will have to say though, Nanatsu, have tattoos means that if you ever make it to Japan, you won't be allowed in the hot springs.

I heard the stories. The person got a kanji for princess and it turned out to be for whore or something similar. I didn't want that to happen to me.

Why barred from the hot springs? I thought foreigners weren't allowed inside anyway.

Yes, the Lunatics are here to stay!!!

But the reason I got the broken mirror has another meaning. Read Alice Through the Looking Glass a few years ago and suddenly I got the idea of the following: What if Alice, as she was passing through the mirror whilst becoming an adult (as the book states), in that instant, the mirror had broken into a million shards? Would she be an incomplete person? I felt like that, when I got the tattoo. Still do on occasion.

And Kat-sama, yes!! I is the Malkie!!!:D

Many of those who work for me are Spanish speaking and lovingly refer to me at "Diablo Blanco." They think I am a bit crazy and know I am very demanding. Most of them are great and I get along with them very well. I go between English, Spanish, Italian, and French/Creole during my normal work day. It's great because I get to learn more of other languages, and they get to learn English to help them assimilate into American Society. I have joked about getting "Diablo Blanco" on my right wrist so that I can raise it in anger. My brain tells me it's not so good an idea.

Awesome. Does it work? (And what are the employees' reactions?)

It actually does. first time, they always laugh...but now they know us well enough.

I is the Malkie!!!:D
http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/usa_films/being_john_malkovich/john_malkovich/malkovich1.jpg
In that case, awesome. What i want to know is ... what floor is that long tunnel to climb/slide into you on?

Many of those who work for me are Spanish speaking and lovingly refer to me at "Diablo Blanco." They think I am a bit crazy and know I am very demanding. Most of them are great and I get along with them very well. I go between English, Spanish, Italian, and French/Creole during my normal work day. It's great because I get to learn more of other languages, and they get to learn English to help them assimilate into American Society. I have joked about getting "Diablo Blanco" on my right wrist so that I can raise it in anger. My brain tells me it's not so good an idea.

Diablo Blanco... it kinda suits you. In a good way, that is.;)

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/usa_films/being_john_malkovich/john_malkovich/malkovich1.jpg
In that case, awesome. What i want to know is ... what floor is that long tunnel to climb/slide into you on?

Eh?

Eh?
Malkie?
http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u22694/Being_John_Malkovich_poster.jpg
http://www.pawlok.net/Uploads/ArtikelBilder/Stars_Paints/Malkovich_th.jpg
You know.

Malkie?
http://www.maximumpc.com/files/u22694/Being_John_Malkovich_poster.jpg
http://www.pawlok.net/Uploads/ArtikelBilder/Stars_Paints/Malkovich_th.jpg
You know.

Oh, no no no. Malkavian, from the clan of Malkav, roleplaying game from White Wolf. It's a vampire clan. Malkovich could be one. They're known for being insane.

Diablo Blanco... it kinda suits you. In a good way, that is.;)

I think it's better than "Chuckie" as they called my predecessor. He had read hair, light skin, and reminded them of the Satanic doll from the movies. I also speak Spanish better than he did so I can understand when they think they are being slick. Hugo likes to think he is sneaky and most times I remain quiet. Antonio and Carlos love when I snap back with something like this... Al igual que cuando me come el culo a tu madre la puta que feo.

Antonio and Carlos love when I snap back with something like this... Al igual que cuando me come el culo a tu madre la puta que feo.

Meow! Sassy retorts in Spanish are excellent. Especially when no one knows you speak the language.:D

Meow! Sassy retorts in Spanish are excellent. Especially when no one knows you speak the language.:D

He's learning each day that I know more Spanish than he thinks I do. I also find that he doesn't speak English well, but he understands more than he lets on. That's when I give him a "listen motherfucker I know you understand what I am saying" in English and he laughs. The other day we were under time constraints and was prodding me about making lunch for the boys. I always take care of them and feed them well. Hacer de comer me ves ahora perra? was my reply. An hour later they were still laughing at that.

He's learning each day that I know more Spanish than he thinks I do. I also find that he doesn't speak English well, but he understands more than he lets on. That's when I give him a "listen motherfucker I know you understand what I am saying" in English and he laughs. The other day we were under time constraints and was prodding me about making lunch for the boys. I always take care of them and feed them well. Hacer de comer me ves ahora perra? was my reply. An hour later they were still laughing at that.

It's just that hearing an American speak Spanish is kind of funny and, if you know the person, it's even quite endearing. Your accent makes the pronunciation cute.:tongue:

I myself got a kanji symbol. And the reason I got it is because my fiancé calls me ''neko'' as an endearing term and it means a lot to me. We are both studying Japanese, and, although I am not Japanese, I feel connected to the culture in many ways. Besides, kanji is an elegant and delicate writing system that I am deeply respectful of.

Japanese culture kicks ass.

http://okladki-divx.neostrada.pl/covers/y/yojimbo.jpg

Great poetry, beautiful language, magnificent writing, fascinating history.

I do have to say, military service does eliminate almost all of the cross-cultural boundries out there. I have played token cracker many times in the past few years.

As far as the real purpose of the thread, I have 6 tats currently, and they have never hindered me in any social circles that I have come across...

I'll find some pics to share them, may take a bit.

Why barred from the hot springs? I thought foreigners weren't allowed inside anyway.
No, foreigners are indeed allowed in the springs, just not with tattoos.

If they weren't allowed, I would be very sad because I LOVE going to onsen.

It's just that hearing an American speak Spanish is kind of funny and, if you know the person, it's even quite endearing. Your accent makes the pronunciation cute.:tongue:

Oh my accent is such an odd mix. Part of it in the south and part of it up north. I tend to say y'all at times while asking if you've seen my dawg. I have worked hard on my accent in Spanish though to sound more like a native speaker. It's tough because every country has slightly different slang and accents. They can recognize who is from Columbia vs. Mexico vs. Guatemala. I am not that good yet.

Japanese culture kicks ass.

http://okladki-divx.neostrada.pl/covers/y/yojimbo.jpg

Great poetry, beautiful language, magnificent writing, fascinating history.

Some of the stuff they've done in times of war scares the hell out of me.

Some of the stuff they've done in times of war scares the hell out of me.

Me too; so has some of the stuff Americans have done.

http://mothra.rerf.or.jp/ENG/A-bomb/photo-1/p2.jpg

I think it's safe to quote Sherman...
"War is Hell."

I think it's safe to quote Sherman...
"War is Hell."

He ought to know.

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yeah, he would...

Yes, the Lunatics are here to stay!!!

But the reason I got the broken mirror has another meaning. Read Alice Through the Looking Glass a few years ago and suddenly I got the idea of the following: What if Alice, as she was passing through the mirror whilst becoming an adult (as the book states), in that instant, the mirror had broken into a million shards? Would she be an incomplete person? I felt like that, when I got the tattoo. Still do on occasion.

And Kat-sama, yes!! I is the Malkie!!!:D
I am sure you would be shocked -- SHOCKED! to hear that I have played V:tM.

I think it's safe to quote Sherman...
"War is Hell."
Peace is hell!
Love is hell!
...ah, What the hell!
Wait ... what war business was Sherman involved in?
http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/images/mr_peabody_and_sherman.jpg

Oh, no no no. Malkavian, from the clan of Malkav, roleplaying game from White Wolf. It's a vampire clan. Malkovich could be one. They're known for being insane.
Yes, yes, i know. Verdigroth turned me onto that a while back (with Punjab The Sane, iirc).
I was one of 'em.

Wait ... what war business was Sherman involved in?
http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/images/mr_peabody_and_sherman.jpg
I believe he is referring to the Late Great Unpleasantness, aka the War Between the States, aka the War of Northern Aggression...

the one most of us call the American Civil War...

and William Tecumseh Sherman and his (in)famous March to the Sea.

I believe he is referring to the Late Great Unpleasantness, aka the War Between the States, aka the War of Northern Aggression...

the one most of us call the American Civil War...

and William Tecumseh Sherman and his (in)famous March to the Sea.

Oh no, he was referring to the Great Dog War of 1922. Many a brave dog were lost on those killing fields. Avenge their deaths!

http://www.rassokhin.com/personal/Dogs/pictures/DogOfWar2-s.jpg

I believe he is referring to the Late Great Unpleasantness, aka the War Between the States, aka the War of Northern Aggression...

the one most of us call the American Civil War...

and William Tecumseh Sherman and his (in)famous March to the Sea.
Now why would I be speaking of a man who committed such atrocities?

Oh no, he was referring to the Great Dog War of 1922. Many a brave dog were lost on those killing fields. Avenge their deaths!
Absolutely, bravo!

I'm a sarcastic bastard, btw...

Let's ask the expert: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=K9w4COa8Dp4

:D

Australian rules football. Yep same problem but interesting to watch.


Depends on the tattoo and how it looks. Hula girls and Death before dishonor and all that sort of stuff How is it going to look when you are 80?

Most of the ones I have seen are in good taste!

I am sure you would be shocked -- SHOCKED! to hear that I have played V:tM.

Tbh, yes, I am a bit shocked. :tongue:

Tbh, yes, I am a bit shocked. :tongue:

And you are back. Insomnia tonight? Or are you just up early? Insomnia ftw in my case. Back on topic now and I think I decided to get my new tat this Wednesday. I have off so I should have time.

*notes discourse 'twixt Kat, Dylsexic Untied, VirginiaCooper*

As i should've expected, we're skirting revisionism.
Ah well, good thing there's the Way-Back Machine.

I am sure you would be shocked -- SHOCKED! to hear that I have played V:tM.
I'm always shocked that you not only played Car Wars, but that you were into it enough to write fiction for that Steve Jackson magazine.

I always thought that I and the handful of people who would kick my ass at that game (too obsessed with speed, my paper thin cars often stubbornly powered by internal combustion engines would get blown to shit doing a buck ten past someone who remembered the point of the game).

No, foreigners are indeed allowed in the springs, just not with tattoos.

If they weren't allowed, I would be very sad because I LOVE going to onsen.Well, if you venture far enough from the beaten path and make an effort to make an ass of yourself, you can certainly ruin it for others. ^^

I know that many of the sailors from the Russian cargo and fishing fleets stop over in Hokkaido, and there have been a number of incidents where customers were scared off and later stayed away from Onsen after these merchantmen chose to frequent the establishment while drunk.

To be honest, it's fairly understandable. David Schofill (who is now a Japanese citizen with a name that I can't remember) is known for "fighting against racism", although to be honest a lot of my Japanese friends just seem to feel that he's an ambulance chaser that blows things entirely out of proportion. I believe that he went to one of the aforementioned Onsen to verify that foreigners were being barred from entering and then brought a lawsuit against the town.

Kind of ridiculous, to be honest. It's like he's burning down paradise to save it. -_-

And you are back. Insomnia tonight? Or are you just up early? Insomnia ftw in my case. Back on topic now and I think I decided to get my new tat this Wednesday. I have off so I should have time.

Well, if you get your tat on Wednesday, be sure to, if you want, show it to us. Or me, to be more specific. :p

I'm always shocked that you not only played Car Wars, but that you were into it enough to write fiction for that Steve Jackson magazine.

I always thought that I and the handful of people who would kick my ass at that game (too obsessed with speed, my paper thin cars often stubbornly powered by internal combustion engines would get blown to shit doing a buck ten past someone who remembered the point of the game).

Hee. A number of times I won just cos the guy out in front messed up on his roll using that turn key.... flying through the wreckage to the finish line!

Just remember: HDFOJ for the win! ;)