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I'm going to vegas this weekend and I need to look older to get in a Casino. How can I look 21? I have some dressy clothes, so I wonder if that will help. I'm 19 by the way.

get a fake id.

Shave your pubes and glue them to your face to replicate facial hair accurately.

get a fake id.I know where to buy one in my home town. :D

They sell them at a loan office. (I find this part particularly amusing.)

get a fake id.


This or don't bother. Unless you pay up to stay in the hotels themselves you could slip in.

That was what shocked me more about American Bars, not that it was 21 minimum age, but it was actually enforce.

I'm going to vegas this weekend and I need to look older to get in a Casino. How can I look 21? I have some dressy clothes, so I wonder if that will help. I'm 19 by the way.

NICE CLOTHES. That's first and foremost. Second have a nice facial hair thing going on, maybe a bit of scruff, or a goatee, or both. Have a nice wad of cash, even if it is mostly ones. If it is mostly ones, have a 20 or 2 on the outside. You have to act like you belong there too. When the waitress asks what you want to drink, don't hesitate, know what you want and say it like you know you're going to get it. Keep tipping her a dollar every time she brings a drink. If she asks for an ID just say you left it in the hotel. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Don't play card games, you'll get busted. Stick to slots and getting shitty.

There's a good strip club on the old strip, drinks are really pricey though, it's all the way at the opposite end from the horseshoe (? or is it the nugget?). You'll get in there. The old strip is really lax on IDs.

Yes I did all of this when I was 18. That was 4 years ago, but I would think it's about the same.

You could always get a fake as well, I would think it's easier to get one in LA than here in the sticks PA.

grow a killer beard, when I was 19 I could grow one. Also, see above, don't act out of place and you'll do fine. I didn't have trouble playing cards, but I wasn't in Vegas either.

Why on Earth would you want to go into a Casino?

I'm going to vegas this weekend and I need to look older to get in a Casino. How can I look 21? I have some dressy clothes, so I wonder if that will help. I'm 19 by the way.

don't try it.

Fuck I need to do the pubes trick. I can't grow facial hair.

Fuck I need to do the pubes trick. I can't grow facial hair.

then go on a cruise, theres gambling, and you only have to be 19 (I think), the pubes thing will look fake I think it was a joke, unless you have a massive bush growin' down there.

then go on a cruise, theres gambling, and you only have to be 19 (I think), the pubes thing will look fake I think it was a joke, unless you have a massive bush growin' down there.

I was dead serious. I want to see this kid glue pubes to his face.

Why on Earth would you want to go into a Casino?

A fine question.

Casino gambling, like a lottery, is a tax on people who are bad at math.

then go on a cruise, theres gambling, and you only have to be 19 (I think), the pubes thing will look fake I think it was a joke, unless you have a massive bush growin' down there.

Being desperate makes me forget that it was a joke. I umm... Shaved them already... :/

Fuck I need to do the pubes trick. I can't grow facial hair.

Not even nice sideburns?

Being desperate makes me forget that it was a joke. I umm... Shaved them already... :/

As in, you've already shaved them to do this, or you had them shaved before hand?

As in, you've already shaved them to do this, or you had them shaved before hand?

The first one.

Walk in with a Bible over your face and mutter that all the people inside are foul sinners that need to be saved.

That worked for me more then once, well at least in theory.

don't try it.
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This.

One of my students got caught at Atlantic City. He got arrested and had to appear in court and pay a nice big fine.

The first one.

To late to back out now. Go for it.

To late to back out now. Go for it.

I was just kidding! I got a prosthetic beard, my mom does makeup.

one slogan of Vegas is
"Come on vacation, Leave on Probation."

seriously tho. the Gaming commission hits Casino's hard for any rule infractions. so Casinos will hit rule-breakers hard. Don't try to gamble if you're not of age.

Be female (well it seems to work for a lot of the clubs around here).

I was just kidding! I got a prosthetic beard, my mom does makeup.

Good, get a professional to glue your pubes to your face. That'll definitely fool the Gaming Commission.

Be female (well it seems to work for a lot of the clubs around here).

I was just about to hit on you, 'till I realised you weren't talking about yourself. No one with the name Hydesland can have breasts.

I was just about to hit on you, 'till I realised you weren't talking about yourself. No one with the name Hydesland can have breasts.

Well, I guess I'm so manly that even what I name myself becomes identifiably manly then. Wohooo!

don't try it.

^ ^
This.

One of my students got caught at Atlantic City. He got arrested and had to appear in court and pay a nice big fine.
This to the Nth degree.

Seriously, and this is from a Nevada native, don't try it. Casinos can lose their gaming license if they let minors gamble so they are very, VERY strict and watchful for that and they know all of the tricks. And if they DO catch you, they are not nice about it at all, and neither is the court system.

It's not worth the gamble, seriously, it really isn't.

I'm going to vegas this weekend and I need to look older to get in a Casino. How can I look 21? I have some dressy clothes, so I wonder if that will help. I'm 19 by the way.

Don't bother. If you win and they discover that you're underage, they won't pay you but they will kick you out. If you lose and they discover that you're underage, they'll still kick you out (and you'll still be out whatever money you lost). If you have a fake ID on you when you're discovered (and they realize it's fake), you might be arrested. I doubt spending time in jail is a good vacation move.

I'm going to vegas this weekend and I need to look older to get in a Casino. How can I look 21? I have some dressy clothes, so I wonder if that will help. I'm 19 by the way.

I know a foolproof method, but it'll take 2 years of preparation. *nod*

http://stuff.aeumel.com/raoul_duke.jpg

Try to look like this guy. He's legit.

http://stuff.aeumel.com/raoul_duke.jpg

Try to look like this guy. He's legit.

Seconded.

http://stuff.aeumel.com/raoul_duke.jpg

Try to look like this guy. He's legit.

Agreed, although that was the 70s. In this day and age he'd need more pubes.

Don't bother. If you win and they discover that you're underage, they won't pay you but they will kick you out. If you lose and they discover that you're underage, they'll still kick you out (and you'll still be out whatever money you lost). If you have a fake ID on you when you're discovered (and they realize it's fake), you might be arrested. I doubt spending time in jail is a good vacation move.

and chances are, you'll be blacklisted for that casino (and their affiliates)... and that will definately be a bitch and a half.

I am definately not gambling, just like being in the casino.

I am definately not gambling, just like being in the casino.

Yes, and I don't like getting muddy, I just like being in mud. *nod*

I am definately not gambling, just like being in the casino.
Um... then, dude... You can go into any casino you wish, you just can't gamble or hang around the gaming floor. You can wander through the floor, as long as you're heading somewhere else, and you can go see the shows (excepting the adult reviews), the shops, and most of the restaurants in Vegas.

And hell, at 19 you can go hit the juice bars if you want the more adult fun stuff.

I would avoid posting ways for this guy to do something illegal. I believe that is against forum rules.

I am definately not gambling, just like being in the casino.

Why?

Um... then, dude... You can go into any casino you wish, you just can't gamble or hang around the gaming floor. You can wander through the floor, as long as you're heading somewhere else, and you can go see the shows (excepting the adult reviews), the shops, and most of the restaurants in Vegas.

And hell, at 19 you can go hit the juice bars if you want the more adult fun stuff.

But you'll still have to glue pubes to your face.

I am definately not gambling, just like being in the casino.
then why sneak in? you can enter the casinos as long as you don't stop next to any machine.

A fine question.

Casino gambling, like a lottery, is a tax on people who are bad at math.

actually gambling in vegas is cheaper than going to the movies. As long as you stick to the dollar tables and play for fun and realize you are going to lose.

actually gambling in vegas is cheaper than going to the movies. As long as you stick to the dollar tables and play for fun and realize you are going to lose.

The Penny Machines. Lots of fun while losing your money!

if you want to gamble underage just wear a military uniform and let people know that you are shipping out next week. it might get you a break when you are caught. if you don't have a military uniform the recruiters are always more than willing to help you get one. I have one in my closet...just took me seven years to pay it off;)

actually gambling in vegas is cheaper than going to the movies. As long as you stick to the dollar tables and play for fun and realize you are going to lose.

Where the fuck do you go to see movies?!?

I know a foolproof method, but it'll take 2 years of preparation. *nod*
:DWicked.

Where the fuck do you go to see movies?!?

Kenai, Alaska. 10 bucks for a ticket and 15-20 bucks for snacks and a soda. which less than I spend on the tables betting singles in vegas for the same amount of time.

why do you want to bother?
For one thing, casinos are the most deary places on earth. Dreary and depressing. Thousands of people sat round staring at their money being whisked away from them. The set up is designed to put you into a semi-hypnotic trance - that's why there's no clocks anywhere, no natural light and everything is painfully bright, colourful and huge. Everything is designed to totally overpower your senses to a point where you'll be more conducive to spend. It gave me a nasty headache and made me feel nauseous. Since you can't gamble, it's likely it'll do the same for you.
#2, even if you did get inside, you can't gamble. If you did win they'll ask for ID and, finding out you're <21, are legally entitled to keep your winnings and kick you out.

Since you can't spend your $ on blackjack, may as well spend it on #2 on Bender Rodriguez's list: Hookers. There's more than enough of them to go round in LV

But you'll still have to glue pubes to your face.
lol

i take back my fake id advice and insist that gluing pubes is the only way that this plan will work.

If you lose and they discover that you're underage, they'll still kick you out (and you'll still be out whatever money you lost).

Could you legally recover your losses if it turned out you were underage since you cant legally lose money there because your not capable of making a contract to gamble. Wouldnt this make said contract invalid and wouldnt the money legally need to be returned?

Could you legally recover your losses if it turned out you were underage since you cant legally lose money there because your not capable of making a contract to gamble. Wouldnt this make said contract invalid and wouldnt the money legally need to be returned?

Highly doubtful. you cannot prove how much money you came in with and the casino can then insist you were caught as soon as you sat down at the table/machine. you could admit you broke the law by gambling underage, but that would land you in jail and cause the casino to be investigated by the Gambling Commission. which would probably do very little to damage the casino themselves unless they have been very lax on their rule following.

Highly doubtful. you cannot prove how much money you came in with and the casino can then insist you were caught as soon as you sat down at the table/machine. you could admit you broke the law by gambling underage, but that would land you in jail and cause the casino to be investigated by the Gambling Commission. which would probably do very little to damage the casino themselves unless they have been very lax on their rule following.

There probably is film of every bet youve made in a casino and a Court could easily enough order the casino to produce the tapes of the history of the persons bets to reasonably determine what was won and lost couldnt they?

There probably is film of every bet youve made in a casino and a Court could easily enough order the casino to produce the tapes of the history of the persons bets to reasonably determine what was won and lost couldnt they?

probably, probably not. looking at the square footage needed to be covered as well as the foottraffic... it's highly unlikely that they could track you every moment.

probably, probably not. looking at the square footage needed to be covered as well as the foottraffic... it's highly unlikely that they could track you every moment.
Um... they can and they do.

I wonder whether asking for such advice would fall under "Promoting illegal activity"?

That was what shocked me more about American Bars, not that it was 21 minimum age, but it was actually enforce.
What bars did you go to? In most states I've been to, I was only carded at restaurants, grocery stores and nightclubs. Most divey-type bars, bodegas and most liquor stores just run on the assumption that everyone is 21 unless proven otherwise.
The exception is Ohio, who card everyone over everything because the whole state is filled with jerkass jerks.
lol

i take back my fake id advice and insist that gluing pubes is the only way that this plan will work.
The gluing of the pubes, it must be done. Everyone will like you, Black Kids, don't you want everyone to like you? I know there are some cool kids doing it, too. I can't remember their names off the top of my head, but they've definitely got pubes on their faces.

I wonder whether asking for such advice would fall under "Promoting illegal activity"?
Technically speaking, no. He just wants to go into the casino, not gamble. As long as he doesn't hang around the pit, he's fine under Nevada state law.

Technically speaking, no. He just wants to go into the casino, not gamble. As long as he doesn't hang around the pit, he's fine under Nevada state law.
I'm just wondering 'cause over here, minors aren't allowed to even "hang out" in casinos/gambling dens. I thought it might be the same "over there". ;)

I'm just wondering 'cause over here, minors aren't allowed to even "hang out" in casinos/gambling dens. I thought it might be the same "over there". ;)
If it was, I would have been arrested many times over. ;)

Naw, the laws for Nevada are pretty clear. A minor cannot stand or wait in the gaming area, nor may they gamble or have others gamble for them. They can, however, traverse the gaming area if heading to another part of the casino.

Which has been interesting from time to time given that, in Nevada, casinos tend to have the largest floor space and theaters so a lot of cons or other events get booked at them. I remember being in junior high and having to cross the floor to get from the dealer's room at a Star Trek con to the theater to see the guest of honor a number of time... And getting weird looks from the gamblers due to my wearing a Starfleet uniform.

If it was, I would have been arrested many times over. ;)

Naw, the laws for Nevada are pretty clear. A minor cannot stand or wait in the gaming area, nor may they gamble or have others gamble for them. They can, however, traverse the gaming area if heading to another part of the casino.

Which has been interesting from time to time given that, in Nevada, casinos tend to have the largest floor space and theaters so a lot of cons or other events get booked at them. I remember being in junior high and having to cross the floor to get from the dealer's room at a Star Trek con to the theater to see the guest of honor a number of time... And getting weird looks from the gamblers due to my wearing a Starfleet uniform.

You wouldn't have gotten those weird looks if you had glued your pubes to your face.

You wouldn't have gotten those weird looks if you had glued your pubes to your face.
Wasn't going as a Klingon though...

1st. Get a Fake ID.

2nd wear nice clothes. collared shirt, styled jeans at least preferably something with an coat.

3rd If you can not grow a full and thick ear to ear beard then shave everyday.
nothing says Hey I am trying to look older please scrutinize my ID like a scraggly goatee. besides everyone over 25 is trying to look young not old.

Because even good Fake Ids can be caught if they look at them.
Memorize the birthday, the name of city listed in the address, and your name(as it appear on the card). If they think it is fake and don't want to run the DL number though the computer they might ask you what is your birthday is, or ask questions about such and such a city(your address on the card), or talk to someone else then try to say Mr. So and SO when you don't have Eye contact with em.

If it was, I would have been arrested many times over. ;)

Naw, the laws for Nevada are pretty clear. A minor cannot stand or wait in the gaming area, nor may they gamble or have others gamble for them. They can, however, traverse the gaming area if heading to another part of the casino.
Ah, I see. Here, you can't even get into the place without being carded. (Or gamble, let alone win and walk away...)
Which has been interesting from time to time given that, in Nevada, casinos tend to have the largest floor space and theaters so a lot of cons or other events get booked at them. I remember being in junior high and having to cross the floor to get from the dealer's room at a Star Trek con to the theater to see the guest of honor a number of time... And getting weird looks from the gamblers due to my wearing a Starfleet uniform.
Sweet!
You wouldn't have gotten those weird looks if you had glued your pubes to your face.
You think? http://www.twistedmindz.co.uk/forum/images/smiles/smiley_beard.gif

Could you legally recover your losses if it turned out you were underage since you cant legally lose money there because your not capable of making a contract to gamble. Wouldnt this make said contract invalid and wouldnt the money legally need to be returned?

Nope. You were there illegally, and are not entitled to recover anything. Besides, how would the casino know how much you lost?

actually gambling in vegas is cheaper than going to the movies. As long as you stick to the dollar tables and play for fun and realize you are going to lose.

Right, and the casinos are everywhere and crawling in glitz and neon because everyone does that.

Kenai, Alaska.

I've been there. :) Although, I don't think they had a theater when I was there (mid-80s).

I'm just wondering 'cause over here, minors aren't allowed to even "hang out" in casinos/gambling dens. I thought it might be the same "over there". ;)

look at the carpet. In Vegas, most casinos have carpeting that depict a 'pathway' (Two different colored carpets.) basically, if the minor stays on the pathway, then security just watches. if the minor strays from the pathway (that would put them in arms reach of the gambling machines and tables) then security watches them but they are much closer.

how close? take a child of the pathway and you might feel their breath on the back of your neck. :D

look at the carpet. In Vegas, most casinos have carpeting that depict a 'pathway' (Two different colored carpets.) basically, if the minor stays on the pathway, then security just watches. if the minor strays from the pathway (that would put them in arms reach of the gambling machines and tables) then security watches them but they are much closer.

how close? take a child of the pathway and you might feel their breath on the back of your neck. :D

In the 2 casinos I worked at (Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun, both tribal casinos in CT), nobody under 21 was allowed to walk through the gaming floor. The concourses were set up so that you didn't need to walk on the gaming floor to get anywhere that minors could be going.

Any competent and respectable casino is a country in and of itself. There's likely going to be a deeply rooted and well-established system of security cameras and trained personnel who primarily spot thieves, cheats and card counters but no doubt they might be good at picking up on fake IDs as well.

In the 2 casinos I worked at (Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun, both tribal casinos in CT), nobody under 21 was allowed to walk through the gaming floor. The concourses were set up so that you didn't need to walk on the gaming floor to get anywhere that minors could be going.

which is why I said 'In Vegas'. indian Casinos run under different rules. so would Reno I expect...
but that sounds like a smart design.

What bars did you go to? In most states I've been to, I was only carded at restaurants, grocery stores and nightclubs. Most divey-type bars, bodegas and most liquor stores just run on the assumption that everyone is 21 unless proven otherwise.
The exception is Ohio, who card everyone over everything because the whole state is filled with jerkass jerks.
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It was Arizona rather than Nevada, I spent about 3 months doing conservation work there, mostly based in Flagstaff. They wouldn't even let me into a pool hall without id.