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Call to power
15-01-2009, 00:05
Get a job ffs and stop living off my damn tax money >.>

I'm currently having a tantrum\bitch fit due to loosing my wallet (along with other things) as such I'm considering going back to school and getting what you ivory tower intellectuals call an education! *is clearly the first person to ever have a life crisis and be insecure about the future*

I might do I might not but seeing as how nsg is 99.999% unemployed you guys could prolly answer a few questions I have which the British websites fail at due to being too busy appealing to hoodie's:

1) How on Earth can you afford it?!
it makes no sense I tell you* I understand that living with the rents would more or less solve the problem but then well I'd be living with my rents wouldn't I?

2) how am I supposed choose what to study?
I can't think for myself, I'm English! Now all the advice says to do what I want to do but that's stupid as I play politics so what ratio should I work at? (I heard taking one serious subject to pay the bills is the idea)

3) am I too old to start?
yeah I'm 19 shush but is it still far too late to be getting into education?

4) is there anyone who actually watches the green green grass?

*I will probably have to be doing A-levels which means £30 a week if I'm lucky enough to get adult support...I like food and heating
Forsakia
15-01-2009, 00:08
1)Depending on your household income then there's a lot of government grants available. On top of that most universities offer bursaries to students from low income households.

After those two then it's student loans or whatever savings you have.

2) I can't even try and answer that. It has to be something you've a genuine interest in learning, otherwise it'll be very very tough.
It's hard enough if you like the subjects to begin with.

3) Not even nearly. A lot of people have taken a gap year or two or more. And it'll make no difference to anyone or thing. It only starts becoming a bit strange after about 25 I'd say. And even then not much until you're 30 or over.

4) There's always someone
Baldwin for Christ
15-01-2009, 00:08
I don't know the UK system. In the US, you'd just start taking out fed student loans, which can be thin at the beginning.

As to what to study, in your system, are you allowed to dabble at the beginning, take a bit of everything, until you declare a major or degree sought?
Exilia and Colonies
15-01-2009, 00:13
1) Tution fee loan: For everyone. Covers entire fees, stupidly lenient repayment plan
2) Maintenance loan: Means tested to an extent, repayment as above.
3) Maintenance grant: Entirely Means tested. No repayment. May decrease Maintenance loan availible.
4) Student bank accounts: 0% Overdraft anyone?
5) Scholarships/busaries: Too varied to list. Dependant on institiution.

Warning: Tution fees may rise in the near future from £3k PA to up to £10K PA pending Government review of Higher Education finance
Forsakia
15-01-2009, 00:14
As to what to study, in your system, are you allowed to dabble at the beginning, take a bit of everything, until you declare a major or degree sought?

No, not really.

Get a job ffs and stop living off my damn tax money >.>


*throws student party with CtP's tax money*
The Blaatschapen
15-01-2009, 00:15
To answer question 3: No you're not too old to get an education. I switched to a different field of studies when I was 23, so just go and do it :)

To answer question 2: Start writing down what you like and what you don't like. Also, what kind of job would like to have 10 years from now?

To answer question 1: Get a part-time job, get a scholarship, improve your poker skills :P

4: Not me.
Forsakia
15-01-2009, 00:16
Warning: Tution fees may rise in the near future from £3k PA to up to £10K PA pending Government review of Higher Education finance

The trick here may be to get in before they raise it, as sometimes they grandfather people into the old scheme. Not sure on this one though. As an alternative to A-levels many universities offer foundation courses instead if you prefer that route.
Exilia and Colonies
15-01-2009, 00:17
I don't know the UK system. In the US, you'd just start taking out fed student loans, which can be thin at the beginning.

As to what to study, in your system, are you allowed to dabble at the beginning, take a bit of everything, until you declare a major or degree sought?

Its generally you learn 1 thing for 3 years. Degree structure and variability depend highly on subject and institution though.
Baldwin for Christ
15-01-2009, 00:19
3) Not even nearly. A lot of people have taken a gap year or two or more. And it'll make no difference to anyone or thing. It only starts becoming a bit strange after about 25 I'd say. And even then not much until you're 30 or over.

Even over 30 is fixable, just say you're a grad or professional student. With me, it eventually became true.

And wear concert t-shirts. And think young. And grow your hair out, get an ear ring. It will make you fit in. It will.

But when the physics guys start talking about Battle Star Galactica, don't say you always wanted to be Starbuck. Because it doesn't mean what it used to mean...
Baldwin for Christ
15-01-2009, 00:21
Its generally you learn 1 thing for 3 years. Degree structure and variability depend highly on subject and institution though.

Hmm....that works out pretty well? I suppose your secondary ed is probably more effective than ours at rounding a student before he/she gets to uni.

Here in the US, your first couple years of undergrad are fairly generalized, and our University level is the one jewel in our crown of education that doesn't look like "The Dark Crystal" if it was leaking gelfling piss.
Exilia and Colonies
15-01-2009, 00:25
Hmm....that works out pretty well? I suppose your secondary ed is probably more effective than ours at rounding a student before he/she gets to uni.

Here in the US, your first couple years of undergrad are fairly generalized, and our University level is the one jewel in our crown of education that doesn't look like "The Dark Crystal" if it was leaking gelfling piss.

As a rule of thumb First year in US University=UK A-levels

Anyway, can't stick around here all night. Exams to be revising for.
The Mindset
15-01-2009, 00:26
1) How on Earth can you afford it?!
I am Scottish. My government pays tuition and I get a student loan. I also have a scholarship on top of this. Occasionally I work. I have a great deal of English friends - they have a student loan for tutition, and a couple of other stuff I don't really understand.

2) how am I supposed choose what to study?
Choose whatever interests you. Don't choose for money or for job prospects, because you'll get bored and drop out. Then you've wasted your time and your money.

3) am I too old to start?
I started when I was 20.

4) is there anyone who actually watches the green green grass?
Huh?
Exilia and Colonies
15-01-2009, 00:28
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/UniversityAndHigherEducation/StudentFinance/DG_172493
Call to power
15-01-2009, 00:29
It's hard enough if you like the subjects to begin with.

surely I'm not supposed to like school :p

As to what to study, in your system, are you allowed to dabble at the beginning, take a bit of everything, until you declare a major or degree sought?

well the terms start in like September I guess so I could earn some bonus points by chatting up the tutors (by just walking on site naturally >.>)

SNIP

so I should leg it :eek:

also I'm worried that all these b-b-b-benefits will be affected by how shite I did at GCSE level

*throws student party with CtP's tax money*

*calls the cops*

To answer question 2: Start writing down what you like and what you don't like. Also, what kind of job would like to have 10 years from now?

sounds like the idea I guess *vows to do this at work tomorrow instead of working*
The Scandinvans
15-01-2009, 00:33
Being the son of a lawyer does help a tad bit. ;)
Kryozerkia
15-01-2009, 00:56
One is never too old to continue to learn and get an education.

I'm still in school at 25 years old. Granted I had a period of academic lull during which I tried to find fulltime work but failed miserably. I'm in a 1-year post-grad diploma program in order to become a law clerk.

Focus on what you want to learn or what may end up being practical at the end of it all.
Forsakia
15-01-2009, 00:59
surely I'm not supposed to like school :p

It's a process, you start off with a liking/interest in it, and they slowly squeeze it out of you via over-exposure. Anyone this doesn't work on becomes an academic to cary on the cycle.



also I'm worried that all these b-b-b-benefits will be affected by how shite I did at GCSE level

Nothing to do with it at all. At least the government stuff isn't, the just require you to be in uni. The bursaries are uni specific so they may, but I haven't seen any that do.


*calls the cops*

*invites cops in and parties* it's all legal


sounds like the idea I guess *vows to do this at work tomorrow instead of working*

See, you're getting into the student mentality already.
Ashmoria
15-01-2009, 01:51
screw that "what you love" thing. if you wanted to work at something you love you would have gone to university right off the bat.

go in and ask what degree programs make the most money and what ones have the best employment prospects.

pick a field of study from that list. you will LOVE a well paying job that you can actually get.
Yootopia
15-01-2009, 02:30
Get a job ffs and stop living off my damn tax money >.>
Up yours ya pleb.
1) How on Earth can you afford it?!
it makes no sense I tell you* I understand that living with the rents would more or less solve the problem but then well I'd be living with my rents wouldn't I?
Get a student loan. That simple. I get 4.5k a year from that (as well as course fees of course) and another 1.5k from the uni for being excellent. Living with 2 other students gives us a household income of about 15k, plus whatever our parents send, which is not bad when rent accounts for something like 8k of that, leaving about £120 a weak to fuck about with between us.
2) how am I supposed choose what to study?
I can't think for myself, I'm English! Now all the advice says to do what I want to do but that's stupid as I play politics so what ratio should I work at? (I heard taking one serious subject to pay the bills is the idea)
Whatever you're good at, a 2:1 is a way to print money doing trivial and easy jobs for your entire life.
3) am I too old to start?
yeah I'm 19 shush but is it still far too late to be getting into education?
Don't be stupid.
*I will probably have to be doing A-levels which means £30 a week if I'm lucky enough to get adult support...I like food and heating
Oh starting with A-levels?

Erm... try to live with your 'rents. You'll have to pay some nominal course fees if you start in the year you'll be 20, but it's really bugger-all. I did 4 A-levels and was very active in the SU and I still had plenty of time to do nothing in, so you should be able to maintain a job too.
VirginiaCooper
15-01-2009, 03:31
1) How on Earth can you afford it?!
it makes no sense I tell you* I understand that living with the rents would more or less solve the problem but then well I'd be living with my rents wouldn't I?

2) how am I supposed choose what to study?
I can't think for myself, I'm English! Now all the advice says to do what I want to do but that's stupid as I play politics so what ratio should I work at? (I heard taking one serious subject to pay the bills is the idea)

3) am I too old to start?
yeah I'm 19 shush but is it still far too late to be getting into education?

4) is there anyone who actually watches the green green grass?
1. It helps substantially being middle class with parents who both have college educations and place a strong emphasis on getting a college education. However! I plan on going to graduate school eventually but to do so I will need to pay for that myself. The key I think is if you have the will and you actually want to do it, you need to buckle down. Yeah, it can be hard as hell but the idea to focus on the future is what you need to get you through any times where you save over spend and it inconveniences or does anything even worst to you.

2. I believe its different in Britain, because you guys don't have a liberal arts education program? If that is true, I'm sorry because the advice I'm about to give you is useless, but hey, when isn't it? I have always been of the belief that majoring in something that you love or at least enjoy is FAR FAR more important than trying to pick a major that you think will make you money. If you are all about business, then by all means major in it, but if you think another major like History or English (traditionally the "What are you gunna do with that?" majors), do it! If you want a good paying and not entirely unenjoyable job the most important thing is to get the degree and focus less on what in. If you want to be super specialized, such as in the sciences, then you should definitely love that, but I ALWAYS say that it is so much more important to love your major than to love money. I can't say that enough. LOVE YOUR MAJOR!

3. I'm 19 too. Sure, I'm a sophomore (second year) but its hardly strange at my school to be older. I am regularly in classes with folks that are 30-40 year olds with children who are getting a degree just like you, just they waited a longer time. If you're just 19, you can totally pass it by. Don't even worry about your age if you've only got like a 1-2 year difference from the rest of the students. Hell, they're still your peers.

Hope I helped in a little way!
Sparkelle
15-01-2009, 04:10
Don't go for a bachelor's degree. Get a certificate in something like accounting or computers. Bachelor's degrees take 4 years, while certificates take 2. If you are in a bad financial situation go to the school's financial assistance office and find out if you are eligable for bursaries.
Yootopia
15-01-2009, 04:57
2. I believe its different in Britain, because you guys don't have a liberal arts education program?
Err?

You can do some artsy waste-of-time degree like myself with History, or something with maths up the arse, and everything inbetween.
Ashmoria
15-01-2009, 06:22
Don't go for a bachelor's degree. Get a certificate in something like accounting or computers. Bachelor's degrees take 4 years, while certificates take 2. If you are in a bad financial situation go to the school's financial assistance office and find out if you are eligable for bursaries.
good advice.

then if you find yourself wanting more education you can go part time and have the money to pay for it.
Exilia and Colonies
15-01-2009, 12:55
Don't go for a bachelor's degree. Get a certificate in something like accounting or computers. Bachelor's degrees take 3 years, while certificates take 2. If you are in a bad financial situation go to the school's financial assistance office and find out if you are eligable for bursaries.

Fixed
The blessed Chris
15-01-2009, 14:19
1; Student loan. I haven't the foggiest whether they apply for mature A-level students, but, I'm certain some funding will be available.

2; erm...what do you either enjoy, or think will be of later practical use? For A-levels, I'd take History and a foreign language, irrespective of anyhting else, given their credibility with employers.

3; yes, you're far too old you superannuated old fart. Go and collect your pension grandad. Honestly, I doubt it; You'd be 21 when you finished A-levels, and then 24 after a bachelors degree, if you chose to continue into higher education. I've got friends who left their original degrees in the third year and have started over from first year, so you've little to worry about.
The blessed Chris
15-01-2009, 14:20
Err?

You can do some artsy waste-of-time degree like myself with History, or something with maths up the arse, and everything inbetween.

I object to that; I've spent the last 36 fucking hours doing an open exam on late medieval social history and popular culture, not my cup of tea at any rate, and happen to think I've worked my little socks off. Although I do have 4 hours a week generally...
Yootopia
15-01-2009, 15:20
I object to that; I've spent the last 36 fucking hours doing an open exam on late medieval social history and popular culture, not my cup of tea at any rate, and happen to think I've worked my little socks off. Although I do have 4 hours a week generally...
And I spent about that time writing about whether the French Revolution isn't over (takes time to pad "no" to 2000 words). Doesn't make it a degree with job prospects other than being a teacher or a generic graduate job.
The blessed Chris
15-01-2009, 15:38
And I spent about that time writing about whether the French Revolution is over (takes time to pad "no" to 2000 words). Doesn't make it a degree with job prospects other than being a teacher or a generic graduate job.

I can beat repeating "no" 2000 times; I'm writing about the geste of Robin Hood, and am in an eternal struggle not to start discussing the political machinations of Sir Hiss or the overpowering strength of Little John the bear.

I've always felt that, within the field of humanities degrees, History provided the best employment prospects; it does teach a certain analytical rigour, and discipline, and, unlike English, requires the use of statistics.
Yootopia
15-01-2009, 15:42
I can beat repeating "no" 2000 times; I'm writing about the geste of Robin Hood, and am in an eternal struggle not to start discussing the political machinations of Sir Hiss or the overpowering strength of Little John the bear.
Ah well.
I've always felt that, within the field of humanities degrees, History provided the best employment prospects; it does teach a certain analytical rigour, and discipline, and, unlike English, requires the use of statistics.
I dunno, English involves statistics to do anything meaningful with.
Pure Metal
15-01-2009, 15:53
Get a job ffs and stop living off my damn tax money >.>

I'm currently having a tantrum\bitch fit due to loosing my wallet (along with other things) as such I'm considering going back to school and getting what you ivory tower intellectuals call an education! *is clearly the first person to ever have a life crisis and be insecure about the future*

I might do I might not but seeing as how nsg is 99.999% unemployed you guys could prolly answer a few questions I have which the British websites fail at due to being too busy appealing to hoodie's:

1) How on Earth can you afford it?!
it makes no sense I tell you* I understand that living with the rents would more or less solve the problem but then well I'd be living with my rents wouldn't I?

2) how am I supposed choose what to study?
I can't think for myself, I'm English! Now all the advice says to do what I want to do but that's stupid as I play politics so what ratio should I work at? (I heard taking one serious subject to pay the bills is the idea)

3) am I too old to start?
yeah I'm 19 shush but is it still far too late to be getting into education?

4) is there anyone who actually watches the green green grass?

*I will probably have to be doing A-levels which means £30 a week if I'm lucky enough to get adult support...I like food and heating

1. you could get bursaries, and the student loans help. but you'd most likely have to work and save up for it unless you can get parental support.

2. i don't know... that's a crazily hard question. i'd say that studying politics, for example, assuming you're interested in it, might well end up very frustrating. i took a year of politics and was pissed off all the time that we weren't studying what i wanted to learn about.

3. hell no, not too old. i had friends my age (24) at uni in the first year. and proper mature students (like, 30+) were in abundance.

4. nope
Santiago I
15-01-2009, 16:01
1) How on Earth can you afford it?!
There a lot of loans. Most countries throw money at people that claim that they will study even if they don't. Or you can work and study at the same time.

2) how am I supposed choose what to study?
Engineering. There isn't anything else worth studying.

3) am I too old to start?
I started to study when I was 22. You aren't old.

4) is there anyone who actually watches the green green grass?
the what?!
Psychotic Mongooses
15-01-2009, 16:30
3) am I too old to start?
yeah I'm 19 shush but is it still far too late to be getting into education?




Dude, I'm 24 and I went back to education. It's never ever too late.
Anti-Social Darwinism
16-01-2009, 11:13
Get a job ffs and stop living off my damn tax money >.>

I'm currently having a tantrum\bitch fit due to loosing my wallet (along with other things) as such I'm considering going back to school and getting what you ivory tower intellectuals call an education! *is clearly the first person to ever have a life crisis and be insecure about the future*

I might do I might not but seeing as how nsg is 99.999% unemployed you guys could prolly answer a few questions I have which the British websites fail at due to being too busy appealing to hoodie's:

1) How on Earth can you afford it?!
it makes no sense I tell you* I understand that living with the rents would more or less solve the problem but then well I'd be living with my rents wouldn't I?

2) how am I supposed choose what to study?
I can't think for myself, I'm English! Now all the advice says to do what I want to do but that's stupid as I play politics so what ratio should I work at? (I heard taking one serious subject to pay the bills is the idea)

3) am I too old to start?
yeah I'm 19 shush but is it still far too late to be getting into education?

4) is there anyone who actually watches the green green grass?

*I will probably have to be doing A-levels which means £30 a week if I'm lucky enough to get adult support...I like food and heating

1. I can afford it because I put in my time and am now retired and living off the fat of the land (not, btw, Social inSecurity).

2. Really, study what interests you. If you get an "education" because it'll "pay the bills" but you can't stand what you're doing, what's the point?

3. I started back to school at 29. I have friends who started in their sixties. You're not too old.

4. I watch grass grow and sunsets. I'm retired. *gloats insufferably.*:tongue:
Exilia and Colonies
16-01-2009, 12:10
4. I watch grass grow and sunsets. I'm retired. *gloats insufferably.*:tongue:

May your retirement fund be invested in Lehman Brothers for such insolence. :p
Call to power
16-01-2009, 16:54
Focus on what you want to learn or what may end up being practical at the end of it all.

are you seriously doubting the abilities of the veejay board?

screw that "what you love" thing. if you wanted to work at something you love you would have gone to university right off the bat.

your speaking my language

go in and ask what degree programs make the most money and what ones have the best employment prospects.

did the asshats just gave me a booklet on the courses they have (clearly if I have an A-level I will be able to get any job I want!)

Whatever you're good at, a 2:1 is a way to print money doing trivial and easy jobs for your entire life.

oh well I will just major in art then :p

seriously though unless they have a class in sleeping I don't think I will gamble on a 2:1

Don't go for a bachelor's degree. Get a certificate in something like accounting or computers. Bachelor's degrees take 4 years, while certificates take 2. If you are in a bad financial situation go to the school's financial assistance office and find out if you are eligable for bursaries.

this sounds like the best option

And I spent about that time writing about whether the French Revolution is over (takes time to pad "no" to 2000 words). Doesn't make it a degree with job prospects other than being a teacher or a generic graduate job.

I think you might have to start worrying because the French revolution clearly is.:wink:

1. you could get bursaries, and the student loans help. but you'd most likely have to work and save up for it unless you can get parental support.

yeah I will prolly have to be a bum and work some horrific call centre job for the cash tbh

2) how am I supposed choose what to study?
Engineering. There isn't anything else worth studying.

you clearly haven't seen me put shelving up

1. I can afford it because I put in my time and am now retired and living off the fat of the land (not, btw, Social inSecurity).

you struck oil?
Ashmoria
16-01-2009, 17:08
hmmmm. there must be some resource out there to tell you what courses pay best in the end.

now im not saying go into nuclear physics even if you couldnt pass highschool algebra but there is no sense studying renaissance poetry for 4 years only to find yourself less employable than you are today.

on that list of best employment/best pay courses of study will be one or 2 that you are interested (enough) in. choose one of those.

the truth is that you might start your professional life in your field of study but almost no one STAYS in that area. so starting out in something that pays well, or getting a job at all, is the best outcome of a degree.
Yootopia
16-01-2009, 19:00
I think you might have to start worrying because the French revolution clearly is.:wink:
Aye, sorry, was the other way 'round. "is the French revolution not over?" "No"
Bluth Corporation
16-01-2009, 19:06
1) How on Earth can you afford it?!

I worked my ass off in high school, to earn (private) scholarships.

I worked my ass off building Toyota pickup trucks on an assembly line for ten hours a day for four years after high school, so I wouldn't have to be mooching off my parents for spending money or living expenses or to cover what the scholarships didn't.

I work my ass off day in and day out in college, so I don't lose my scholarships or have to stay longer because of flunked classes or simply not having enough credits.
Call to power
16-01-2009, 19:34
hmmmm. there must be some resource out there to tell you what courses pay best in the end.

looked into it on the net, got headache

still here was the thought pattern:

I should prolly go college, I can even stay safe from recession this way -> LOL @ art/politics/physical ed/music/philosophy/history etc students who are wasting their time -> so that leaves science/engineering/geography/IT/economics/law or whatever I feel can make me the most money because I may be the only rational human being not run by their god-damn emotions -> college is a daycare for white people isn't it!? -> fuck! -> my original plan time -> save up some cash -> flee to Gothenburg for 3 months E.U stay thingy-> if good stay longer -> succeed in new environment and get management position -> everything works out fine (HA HA HA)

Aye, sorry, was the other way 'round. "is the French revolution not over?" "No"

so its in some sort of limbo?

I worked my ass off in high school, to earn (private) scholarships.

I worked my ass off building Toyota pickup trucks on an assembly line for ten hours a day for four years after high school, so I wouldn't have to be mooching off my parents for spending money or living expenses or to cover what the scholarships didn't.

I work my ass off day in and day out in college, so I don't lose my scholarships or have to stay longer because of flunked classes or simply not having enough credits.

I worked my arse off in the military when I left school *piss piss moan moan nobody has ever worked as hard as me* :p

also work isn't what being a student is about otherwise you would be paid for it >.>
Bluth Corporation
16-01-2009, 19:38
I should prolly go college, I can even stay safe from recession this way -> LOL @ art/politics/physical ed/music/philosophy/history etc students who are wasting their time

It's this attitude that is killing higher education.

If all you're interested in doing is learning skills to get a job, go to a trade school. The college or university should be all about learning for its own sake. It's those of us who are here for that reason that actually belong here.
The blessed Chris
16-01-2009, 19:44
It's this attitude that is killing higher education.

If all you're interested in doing is learning skills to get a job, go to a trade school. The college or university should be all about learning for its own sake. It's those of us who are here for that reason that actually belong here.

Very true.
Exilia and Colonies
16-01-2009, 19:49
It's this attitude that is killing higher education.

If all you're interested in doing is learning skills to get a job, go to a trade school. The college or university should be all about learning for its own sake. It's those of us who are here for that reason that actually belong here.

A word for the ignorant.

In the UK Trade School=College
University=University
Call to power
16-01-2009, 19:50
It's this attitude that is killing higher education.

good it deserves to join reality

The college or university should be all about learning for its own sake.

thats what play school is for hence the coursework

It's those of us who are here for that reason that actually belong here.

not on my bloody tax money you ent
greed and death
16-01-2009, 20:04
Get a job ffs and stop living off my damn tax money >.>

I'm currently having a tantrum\bitch fit due to loosing my wallet (along with other things) as such I'm considering going back to school and getting what you ivory tower intellectuals call an education! *is clearly the first person to ever have a life crisis and be insecure about the future*

get some nice beer and calm down

I might do I might not but seeing as how nsg is 99.999% unemployed you guys could prolly answer a few questions I have which the British websites fail at due to being too busy appealing to hoodie's:

1) How on Earth can you afford it?!
it makes no sense I tell you* I understand that living with the rents would more or less solve the problem but then well I'd be living with my rents wouldn't I?

I live in a one bedroom apartment off campus.
I have veterans benefits and a fair deal of financial aid, a few scholarships to boot.
In the US you generally get loans. for in state tuition I could maintain my standard of living and pay tuition with about $4,000 dollars a year in loans and part time job(loans no payments and interest until 6 months after graduation). not certain how Europe works i just though they gave you money.

2) how am I supposed choose what to study?
I can't think for myself, I'm English! Now all the advice says to do what I want to do but that's stupid as I play politics so what ratio should I work at? (I heard taking one serious subject to pay the bills is the idea)

not certain how your degrees work. I say if you don't know take a general studies degree until you find what you like. It will likely change at least once or twice while your in school. the important part is to start you will find the other things just tend to fall in place
3) am I too old to start?
yeah I'm 19 shush but is it still far too late to be getting into education?

*I will probably have to be doing A-levels which means £30 a week if I'm lucky enough to get adult support...I like food and heating

Not to late at all I started at 25. taking a year off to work is not uncommon relax and have a good time.
Galloism
16-01-2009, 20:19
Does anyone else see the page numbers backwards where this thread is listed in the general forum?

I see it as "Students of NSG!3, 2, 1 [pic] ) )", with the 3 kind of merging in with the thread title.

It's the only thread in the list doing that.
Call to power
16-01-2009, 20:33
It's the only thread in the list doing that.

thats because only I know how to do it :)