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So Is This Cheating?

Snafturi
13-01-2009, 22:14
Kits exist that let you clone a man's er... candycane. So if you have cloned a previous lover/boyfriend/random stranger's goodies and you still use it when you are in a new relationship, would that be cheating?
Brogavia
13-01-2009, 22:17
So, basically, your asking if its cheating to use a dildo created from a model of your ex's penis?
Smunkeeville
13-01-2009, 22:18
I think it's up to your partner.
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 22:20
Id say no. But why would you tell your partner it was cloned after said ex anyway?
Ashmoria
13-01-2009, 22:28
no it is in no way cheating.

but it could be pretty freaking creepy.
Desperate Measures
13-01-2009, 22:29
I just think its weird and will probably cause a fight but I don't think it is cheating. Only cloned feet used for sexual purposes are considered cheating in a court of law.
Wilgrove
13-01-2009, 23:07
Soo umm, why would your gal need to use a dildo if she has a boyfriend?
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 23:08
Soo umm, why would your gal need to use a dildo if she has a boyfriend?

Are you serious?
Wilgrove
13-01-2009, 23:09
Are you serious?

Yes, I mean think about it, if she has a boyfriend, but still uses a dildo, then obviously the guy isn't satisfying her sexual needs, which is really an insult to the boyfriend.
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 23:12
Soo umm, why would your gal need to use a dildo if she has a boyfriend?

Yes, I mean think about it, if she has a boyfriend, but still uses a dildo, then obviously the guy isn't satisfying her sexual needs, which is really an insult to the boyfriend.

. . . . . wow. Just fucking wow.

Off the top of my head:

1) he's gone for a period of time
2) it's a long distance relationship
3) she wants something, but he isn't in the mood at the time
4) they like using toys
5) he likes to watch/she's an exhibitionist

and any others from a huge list of reasons. Christ, where do you get your ideas about relationships?
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 23:12
Yes, I mean think about it, if she has a boyfriend, but still uses a dildo, then obviously the guy isn't satisfying her sexual needs, which is really an insult to the boyfriend.

Of course, and any guy who ever jerks it while he has a girlfriend, well, his girlfriend isnt satisfying his needs!

And of course, no one uses dildos in bed as toys either.
Jello Biafra
13-01-2009, 23:13
Yes, I mean think about it, if she has a boyfriend, but still uses a dildo, then obviously the guy isn't satisfying her sexual needs, which is really an insult to the boyfriend.You've never heard of couples bringing toys to bed with them?
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 23:13
no it is in no way cheating.

but it could be pretty freaking creepy.

Well "cheating" is a very subjective term that has meanings only in the context of the couples themselves, but, essentially, this. It's not "cheating" in the common sense of the word because nobody else is involved.

Freaking weird, though, and this is coming from me
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 23:14
You've never heard of couples bringing toys to bed with them?

utter nonsense. Next you'll be telling me there are more positions than just the one.
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 23:15
Well "cheating" is a very subjective term that has meanings only in the context of the couples themselves, but, essentially, this. It's not "cheating" in the common sense of the word because nobody else is involved.

Freaking weird, though, and this is coming from me

I still dont know why youd tell them.

I mean, if he asks "Hey, who did you clone that from?" (provided he even knows its a clone of one), maybe you can be honest.

But if you randomly go "Hey, this is cloned after my ex's!", well Id get out of dodge. Because thats creepy.

utter nonsense. Next you'll be telling me there are more positions than just the one.

There are, but only one of them is Christ approved.
The Northern Baltic
13-01-2009, 23:16
Well, as long as their isn't any love involved between the woman and the erm, dildo, it doesn't even sound like cheating. Though I suppose that should be determined by the boyfriend and girlfriend themselves.
Wilgrove
13-01-2009, 23:17
and any others from a huge list of reasons. Christ, where do you get your ideas about relationships?

From my own twisted ideas. :D
Galloism
13-01-2009, 23:18
I wanted to turn this around and ask it from the opposite perspective, but um... I don't think molding vaginas has really caught on yet.
Jello Biafra
13-01-2009, 23:18
I still dont know why youd tell them.

I mean, if he asks "Hey, who did you clone that from?" (provided he even knows its a clone of one), maybe you can be honest.

But if you randomly go "Hey, this is cloned after my ex's!", well Id get out of dodge. Because thats creepy.Well, to be fair, cheating is cheating whether or not your partner knows you've cheated.
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 23:18
But if you randomly go "Hey, this is cloned after my ex's!", well Id get out of dodge. Because thats creepy.


I'd first wonder WHY exactly. I mean, did she just wanted a living sample to take a mold of I'd be happy to provide. I guess if she had it lying around since the last relationship ok, but I can imagine the conversation otherwise. "I know we broke up and all, but if you could just give me ONE SECOND of your time..."
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 23:20
From my own twisted ideas. :D

yeah, see, that's your problem right there....
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 23:21
"I know we broke up and all, but if you could just give me ONE SECOND of your time..."

I think even as the ex Id be torn between flattered and creeped out.
Enormous Gentiles
13-01-2009, 23:25
I wanted to turn this around and ask it from the opposite perspective, but um... I don't think molding vaginas has really caught on yet.

Well, I'm not going to link to anything, but...

google 'molded vaginas', maybe throw in 'celebrity' or 'porn star'...and see what pops up.
Wilgrove
13-01-2009, 23:26
yeah, see, that's your problem right there....

Oh I have alotta problems Neo...I have alot of them.....
Galloism
13-01-2009, 23:26
Well, I'm not going to link to anything, but...

google 'molded vaginas', maybe throw in 'celebrity' or 'porn star'...and see what pops up.

Shit. I forgot about rule 34.
Enormous Gentiles
13-01-2009, 23:28
As to the OP:

I like cherry pie best. I truly do.

And it's really only cheating if the partner thinks so. However, I fall squarely into the 'it's a bit creepy' camp.
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 23:29
-snip-

Well, we all know why a gal would want a mold of YOU don't we?
JuNii
13-01-2009, 23:30
I think it's up to your partner.

^ This ^
JuNii
13-01-2009, 23:32
Well, I'm not going to link to anything, but...

google 'molded vaginas', maybe throw in 'celebrity' or 'porn star'...and see what pops up.

why link. go into any adult bookstore! :p

now having one grown/Cloned...
Enormous Gentiles
13-01-2009, 23:33
Well, we all know why a gal would want a mold of YOU don't we?

I'm only 6 inches. Most women don't like it that...thick.
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 23:35
I'm only 6 inches.

Well the name kinda implied a differe--

Most women don't like it that...thick.

Ahhh that's why.
Smunkeeville
13-01-2009, 23:44
Yes, I mean think about it, if she has a boyfriend, but still uses a dildo, then obviously the guy isn't satisfying her sexual needs, which is really an insult to the boyfriend.

Um........seriously? Maybe he's just not around when she's horny. Or...and this might be a stretch, maybe it's her body and she can do what she wants with it.
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 23:45
Um........seriously? Maybe he's just not around when she's horny. Or...and this might be a stretch, maybe it's her body and she can do what she wants with it.

What is this world you speak of where women have control over their own bodies?
JuNii
13-01-2009, 23:47
here's a question. sure they clone the part, but would it be functional? as in have the little swimming guys inside?

*thinks about the Biological mechanics needed to have that done...*

eww.
Ashmoria
13-01-2009, 23:50
Yes, I mean think about it, if she has a boyfriend, but still uses a dildo, then obviously the guy isn't satisfying her sexual needs, which is really an insult to the boyfriend.
how about this....

she wants to attach it to a strapon and peg her new boyfriend with her old boyfriend's dick.

kinky.
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 23:51
how about this....

she wants to attach it to a strapon and peg her new boyfriend with her old boyfriend's dick.

kinky.

now that's kinda messed up....but by merely saying this, there is now porn of it.
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 23:52
now that's kinda messed up....but by merely saying this, there is now porn of it.

I just released the tape.
Enormous Gentiles
13-01-2009, 23:54
I just released the tape.

Does your ass still hurt?
NERVUN
14-01-2009, 00:14
Just when you thought sexual practices couldn't get any weirder...
Knights of Liberty
14-01-2009, 00:32
Does your ass still hurt?

I never said I was the reciever.

Just when you thought sexual practices couldn't get any weirder...

Dude, you're in Japan. How is this even scratching the surface of weird in any sense, especially sexual, to you?
Gift-of-god
14-01-2009, 00:37
No. it's not cheating at all. Not even close.

Fantasising about previous lovers could also be considered a masturbatory aid, just like a dildo. Would that be considered cheating if you thought about your ex while you played with yourself when your current lover was not around? No.

The molded dildo is no different.
Vetalia
14-01-2009, 00:37
Nah, the real question is what happens if you use a mold of your own penis on yourself. I think this is the moral question that will reverberate through the centuries as defining human civilization at the turn of the 21st century.
Krytenia
14-01-2009, 00:47
You realise this process would not be limited to human penises, right?

I think we can safely put this thread in the column marked "Wrong On So Many Levels" now.
Myedvedeya
14-01-2009, 00:50
Im gonna say that the topic of whose dick her dildo is molded off of is not one I'd enjoy engaging in with a lover.
Poliwanacraca
14-01-2009, 01:18
No. it's not cheating at all. Not even close.

Fantasising about previous lovers could also be considered a masturbatory aid, just like a dildo. Would that be considered cheating if you thought about your ex while you played with yourself when your current lover was not around? No.

The molded dildo is no different.

I actually think that comes closer to cheating than the dildo does. I mean, at least then you're mentally involving the whole person instead of just their genitalia.

I do agree with basically everyone that an ex-dildo would be kinda weird, though. Of course, I also feel like any real-person-dildo would be kinda weird. I think I'd be happier with just, you know, normal sex toys that don't remind me of any of my acquaintances' severed body parts.
Neo Art
14-01-2009, 01:21
that don't remind me of any of my acquaintances' severed body parts.

given your past relationships, I'd think you'd rather enjoy the idea of certain acquaintance's severed body parts.
Dakini
14-01-2009, 01:24
I'd go with "not cheating, but fucking creepy"
Poliwanacraca
14-01-2009, 01:24
given your past relationships, I'd think you'd rather enjoy the idea of certain acquaintance's severed body parts.

....well, yes. But not to have sex with! That's just....all kinds of ew. :p
Ifreann
14-01-2009, 01:37
I think it's up to your partner.
Seconded
. . . . . wow. Just fucking wow.

Off the top of my head:

1) he's gone for a period of time
2) it's a long distance relationship
3) she wants something, but he isn't in the mood at the time
4) they like using toys
5) he likes to watch/she's an exhibitionist

and any others from a huge list of reasons. Christ, where do you get your ideas about relationships?
0) She has two holes, he has one penis. Simple arithmetic highlights a problem, the dildo solves it.
Um........seriously? Maybe he's just not around when she's horny. Or...and this might be a stretch, maybe it's her body and she can do what she wants with it.
That's stupid. Once you commit yourself to a boyfriend(a very serious thing, I'll have you know) you're his property.
Does your ass still hurt?
Yes.




I mean, what?
Just when you thought sexual practices couldn't get any weirder...
we find that this practice is passé in Japan and hear about their new thing: cat prostitution!
....well, yes. But not to have sex with! That's just....all kinds of ew. :p

Not even a little bit of sex?
Poliwanacraca
14-01-2009, 01:47
Seconded

0) She has two holes, he has one penis. Simple arithmetic highlights a problem, the dildo solves it.

....only two? UR DOIN IT RONG. ;)
Neo Art
14-01-2009, 01:48
That's stupid. Once you commit yourself to a boyfriend(a very serious thing, I'll have you know) you're his property.


hey, some people are into that...
Neo Art
14-01-2009, 01:49
....only two? UR DOIN IT RONG. ;)

you stole my line, bitch.
Krytenia
14-01-2009, 01:54
....only two? UR DOIN IT RONG. ;)

Activated: PENIS MULTIBALL!!
Poliwanacraca
14-01-2009, 01:55
you stole my line, bitch.

Pfft, I totally left the "property" comment for you. Stop complaining. ;)
Geniasis
14-01-2009, 02:11
utter nonsense. Next you'll be telling me there are more positions than just the one.


There are, but only one of them is Christ approved.

...Triple reverse inverted vertical cowgirl?

now that's kinda messed up....but by merely saying this, there is now porn of it.

Isn't there a rule for that two, that is, the act of inventing a new fetish in your head, you instantly cause an "artist" somewhere in the world to start creating it?

Nah, the real question is what happens if you use a mold of your own penis on yourself. I think this is the moral question that will reverberate through the centuries as defining human civilization at the turn of the 21st century.

Well, for one thing, you'd still be a vir--no, that doesn't work.
Yootopia
14-01-2009, 02:13
Really up to those in the relationship to decide. I voted yes, but that's just me.
Vetalia
14-01-2009, 02:16
Well, for one thing, you'd still be a vir--no, that doesn't work.

Exactly. This is a problem for the greatest philosophers of our time.
NERVUN
14-01-2009, 02:25
we find that this practice is passé in Japan and hear about their new thing: cat prostitution!
I can't speak about the make-a-dildo kit thingie, but the cat prostitution now...
Nova Magna Germania
14-01-2009, 02:56
Kits exist that let you clone a man's er... candycane. So if you have cloned a previous lover/boyfriend/random stranger's goodies and you still use it when you are in a new relationship, would that be cheating?

Why? If medical science is that advanced, u can ask ur new bf to get a better dick?
Ryadn
14-01-2009, 03:02
Soo umm, why would your gal need to use a dildo if she has a boyfriend?

...oh, dear.
Ryadn
14-01-2009, 03:08
Why? If medical science is that advanced, u can ask ur new bf to get a better dick?

I thought "clone" here just meant, like "cast in rubber". We're not talking about growing it on a mouse's back, right? Because that would look even more fucked up than the ear. And the mouse would tip over all the time.
Myedvedeya
14-01-2009, 03:10
I thought "clone" here just meant, like "cast in rubber". We're not talking about growing it on a mouse's back, right? Because that would look even more fucked up than the ear. And the mouse would tip over all the time.

I'm pretty sure we do mean "cast in rubber." Otherwise, I have a fortune to go make on the soon-to-be-award-winning documentary on the life and times of the dick-backed mouse
Ryadn
14-01-2009, 03:11
That's stupid. Once you commit yourself to a boyfriend(a very serious thing, I'll have you know) you're his property.

I was eating lunch in the teacher's lounge yesterday and one of my coworkers said something scarily close to this, talking about the massage therapist she goes to and how she doesn't tell her husband about it because "he'd be mad if he knew another guy was touching my body". Another woman nodded agreement and said her husband was "proprietary". This all seemed perfectly normal, if humorous, to them. It was very hard to eat my pb&j quietly and not snicker.
Ifreann
14-01-2009, 03:14
....only two? UR DOIN IT RONG. ;)
*points way off in the distance at some kind of sex thread*
Enlighten me. :p
hey, some people are into that...
True.......
you stole my line, bitch.
What is this, double team the ignorant virgin?





So much porn of it........
Isn't there a rule for that two,
:mad:
that is, the act of inventing a new fetish in your head, you instantly cause an "artist" somewhere in the world to start creating it?
Rule 35: If there isn't porn of it, someone will make porn of it.

Or something like that.
I'm pretty sure we do mean "cast in rubber." Otherwise, I have a fortune to go make on the soon-to-be-award-winning documentary on the life and times of the dick-backed mouse

South Park already did it.
New Wallonochia
14-01-2009, 03:16
I don't really see how it'd be considered cheating. Weird yes, but not cheating.

Also, there was an episode of "Coupling" about something very similar.
Poliwanacraca
14-01-2009, 03:22
I don't really see how it'd be considered cheating. Weird yes, but not cheating.

Also, there was an episode of "Coupling" about something very similar.

Ah, yes, the Junior Patrick. Good stuff. :D
Ashmoria
14-01-2009, 03:45
I was eating lunch in the teacher's lounge yesterday and one of my coworkers said something scarily close to this, talking about the massage therapist she goes to and how she doesn't tell her husband about it because "he'd be mad if he knew another guy was touching my body". Another woman nodded agreement and said her husband was "proprietary". This all seemed perfectly normal, if humorous, to them. It was very hard to eat my pb&j quietly and not snicker.
as long as there is no "happy ending" how can anyone object to massage?
Ifreann
14-01-2009, 03:49
I object to a massage when there isn't a happy ending. I did not pay that much for just a massage, damn it!
The Brevious
14-01-2009, 07:09
Kits exist that let you clone a man's er... candycane. So if you have cloned a previous lover/boyfriend/random stranger's goodies and you still use it when you are in a new relationship, would that be cheating?
No.
To quote a fellow on the San Andreas beach,
I'm NOT inadequate!
The Brevious
14-01-2009, 07:10
Also, there was an episode of "Coupling" about something very similar.
:hail:
Jane's in that new show, Leverage!
The Emmerian Unions
14-01-2009, 08:34
I would say it is.
SaintB
14-01-2009, 09:39
It would be creepy/weird as hell but its not cheating. After all, she's not using the REAL one.
SoWiBi
14-01-2009, 10:46
Not cheating, and IMO not even all that weird unless they're keeping it actively as a reminder of the ex instead of just one of the toys (that happens to be modeled after her ex's wang).

On a side note, I've been eyeing the kit in my catalogue for, like, ever, but the boyfriend is in stark opposition to the plan. I told him it's fun; I've shown him the models of my breasts that I've made and how cool that was, but he insists on not cooperating. Bastard.
Cameroi
14-01-2009, 10:56
a dildo is a dildo, whatever it looks like. is it cheating to use one?
i suppose that's a matter of cultural values, but as a guy, imagination has always been better then reality, as i very much expect most often if not always it is for women, so who the hell's business is it what anyone does to themselves when they're not in public?
Pepe Dominguez
14-01-2009, 11:01
Question: did the ex-boyfriend consent?

If someone were using my cloned genetic material for their own enjoyment in my absence, well... I probably wouldn't care, but I'd reserve the right to pitch a fit if I were bored and it promised me entertainment.
Peepelonia
14-01-2009, 16:51
Soo umm, why would your gal need to use a dildo if she has a boyfriend?

Heheh you are funny!
Peepelonia
14-01-2009, 16:53
Yes, I mean think about it, if she has a boyfriend, but still uses a dildo, then obviously the guy isn't satisfying her sexual needs, which is really an insult to the boyfriend.

What, that makes no sense at all. Are you telling me that for a man to continue wanking even after he is in a loving relationship, it means that he is not sexualy satisfied with his woman, and that it is insulting to his women?
New Wallonochia
14-01-2009, 17:18
Question: did the ex-boyfriend consent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZUNFRUGPxI&feature=related
Smunkeeville
14-01-2009, 18:19
Not cheating, and IMO not even all that weird unless they're keeping it actively as a reminder of the ex instead of just one of the toys (that happens to be modeled after her ex's wang).

On a side note, I've been eyeing the kit in my catalogue for, like, ever, but the boyfriend is in stark opposition to the plan. I told him it's fun; I've shown him the models of my breasts that I've made and how cool that was, but he insists on not cooperating. Bastard.

Be careful which one you get....TG me for tmi.
Truly Blessed
14-01-2009, 19:16
Cherry Pie. You would have to ask that person and that person spouse whether or not it is cheating. Is like having sex with your old partner while you are having sex with your new one by "Proxy"? If so maybe

Cheating is in mind as well as the body.
Truly Blessed
14-01-2009, 19:19
Not cheating, and IMO not even all that weird unless they're keeping it actively as a reminder of the ex instead of just one of the toys (that happens to be modeled after her ex's wang).

On a side note, I've been eyeing the kit in my catalogue for, like, ever, but the boyfriend is in stark opposition to the plan. I told him it's fun; I've shown him the models of my breasts that I've made and how cool that was, but he insists on not cooperating. Bastard.

Latex is not like the real thing.
SoWiBi
14-01-2009, 20:17
Be careful which one you get....TG me for tmi.

Thanks for the offer, but, you see, seeing how he is totally unwilling, there's no need for me to find any brand or kind, eh?

Latex is not like the real thing.

Huh?
greed and death
14-01-2009, 20:26
For a woman yes it is.
For a man to clone a female genitals would be okay, it is natural for men to masturbate and such.
All women who are not whores should never see a penis anyways until marriage.
Nova Magna Germania
15-01-2009, 06:01
I thought "clone" here just meant, like "cast in rubber". We're not talking about growing it on a mouse's back, right? Because that would look even more fucked up than the ear. And the mouse would tip over all the time.

I'm pretty sure we do mean "cast in rubber." Otherwise, I have a fortune to go make on the soon-to-be-award-winning documentary on the life and times of the dick-backed mouse

HAHA, I thought this was a what if in future thingie. :$

I didnt know that those kinda kits existed at present, thats nasty :D
Rotten bacon
15-01-2009, 08:15
....only two? UR DOIN IT RONG. ;)

the problem is in the equation. he is forgetting to take into account the third hole Quagmire found on family guy.