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Music rant

Lord Tothe
13-01-2009, 02:55
Just wondering:

1. What bands do you believe to be WAY overrated?
2. What bands are good but you're tired of the same handful of songs the radio stations play?

I know I've often thought a band sucked, but later learned that my opinion was based on the fact that 2 or 3 mediocre songs were being played by the radio stations and that they had some really good stuff that never got airtime. But that's not as much fun as saying that the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, The Killers, and AC/DC are WAY overrated :mad:

*awaits flaming*
Articoa
13-01-2009, 02:58
1: Jonas Brothers, and Hanah Montana. Course, I don't even give them a rating.
2: At the risk of dying, I'll say Green Day. I'm sick of American Idiot (the album and the song.)
Wilgrove
13-01-2009, 02:59
Anything that Disney pumps out is overrated.
Lord Tothe
13-01-2009, 03:15
Anything that Disney pumps out is overrated.

I dub thee '"Captain Obvious" :p
Ryadn
13-01-2009, 03:27
Panic! At the Disco. My Chemical Romance. The Used, back in the day, before they finally died. Katy Perry. The Smashing Fucking Pumpkins.
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 03:28
I am going to only list actual musicians, assuming that we can all agree that the teeny-bopper pop crap that is pumped out is garbage.

1. Led Zeppelin. John Bonum and Jimmy Page are fine, but there are so much better, some even from the same time period! And no, you are not "indie" or "underground" or whatever just because you listen to a band from the 70s you pretentious , wanna be high school/college stoner dousche.
2. Pink Floyd. Love em. But if I hear "Hey You", "Money", or "Comfortably Numb" one more time, someone is going to die.
Skallvia
13-01-2009, 03:33
1.Nickelback
2.Nickelback

lol...


And Obviously the Disney actors, i dont even consider them musicians...
Andaluciae
13-01-2009, 03:36
1. Led Zeppelin.

I hear you, as my dad has always said "Led Zeppelin were the hegemons of rock for years, and they used their time very poorly.

2. Pink Floyd. Love em. But if I hear "Hey You", "Money", or "Comfortably Numb" one more time, someone is going to die.

Which is why I own all of their easily accessed albums on CD, and a few on vinyl. I get to skip the endlessly repeated songs.
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 03:38
Which is why I own all of their easily accessed albums on CD, and a few on vinyl. I get to skip the endlessly repeated songs.

Exatly. Songs like "Learning to Fly", "Time", and "Meddle" are great. And so were the songs I mentioned earlier. Until I heard them every single day at 4 pm driving home from school in my old, CD-playerless car.
Intestinal fluids
13-01-2009, 03:40
Almost all Rap music.
Lord Tothe
13-01-2009, 03:45
Exatly. Songs like "Learning to Fly", "Time", and "Meddle" are great. And so were the songs I mentioned earlier. Until I heard them every single day at 4 pm driving home from school in my old, CD-playerless car.

Ugh. At work the others like to listen to the "Classic Rock" station. You'd think there would be more variety, what with the two decades of music they can choose from. The oldies station that plays doo-wop and classic rock & roll from about 1955-1965 or so has better variety and better music overall.
Andaluciae
13-01-2009, 03:46
Exatly. Songs like "Learning to Fly", "Time", and "Meddle" are great. And so were the songs I mentioned earlier. Until I heard them every single day at 4 pm driving home from school in my old, CD-playerless car.

I used to wake up to Time every morning. Best alarm ever.
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 03:46
Ugh. At work the others like to listen to the "Classic Rock" station. You'd think there would be more variety, what with the two decades of music they can choose from. The oldies station that plays doo-wop and classic rock & roll from about 1955-1965 or so has better variety and better music overall.

Classic Rock stations are essentially the Van Halen-AC/DC-Led Zeppelin station, with a few of the most overplayed Aerosmith songs thrown in for good measure.
Skallvia
13-01-2009, 03:49
Classic Rock stations are essentially the Van Halen-AC/DC-Led Zeppelin station, with a few of the most overplayed Aerosmith songs thrown in for good measure.

Stations around here have recently started throwing in Pearl Jam, Metallica and Stone Temple Pilots...

Makes Skalvia feel old....
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 03:55
Stations around here have recently started throwing in Pearl Jam, Metallica and Stone Temple Pilots...

Makes Skalvia feel old....

Well, other rock stations paly that too, but thats not "Classic" Rock, so "classic rock" stations dont usually play that.
Skallvia
13-01-2009, 03:57
Well, other rock stations paly that too, but thats not "Classic" Rock, so "classic rock" stations dont usually play that.

Our Classic Rock stations have...Through me for a loop, Im sittin there, like "Thats not Classic Rock", lol...
The_pantless_hero
13-01-2009, 03:57
2. Pink Floyd. Love em. But if I hear "Hey You", "Money", or "Comfortably Numb" one more time, someone is going to die.
All we get here is Hey You and Another Brick in the Wall.

I would put Skynyrd for the second but one of the two radio stations worth listening to plays more than just Sweet Home Alabama and Freebird.

1. Led Zeppelin
2. Nothing I listen to is played on the radio any more (probably because they arn't rock/don't play relentless drivel that only idiots like/havn't released an album in 5 years)
Truly Blessed
13-01-2009, 06:39
Led Zeppelin. The most versatile rock band ever. They can play anything and make it sound good.

Sigh just proves I am old.


ahem. Over rated. I think there are plenty that are over played which will tire you of just about anything.

Counting Crows a couple of good tunes but then ehhhh

Bob Dylan - Some people treat him like he is prophet or something and that whole thing about not making eye contact with him????

Bruce Springsteen - he had some really great tunes but a lot were kind of yeah okay I don't hate but....
Soviet Haaregrad
13-01-2009, 07:30
I haven't listened to the radio in so long I'm starting to forget what pop music and classic rock sound like. It's refreshing.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-01-2009, 07:56
1. AC/DC, Zeppelin, basically anything that could be referred to as "metal," but predates Iron Maiden. (The exception being Black Sabbath).

2. Metallica's "The Unforgiven," and it's unlovable, bastard children. The first song was whiny and pointless, so why did it need a pair of sequels? And why do all three of them have to keep getting radio play?
Lord Tothe
13-01-2009, 08:05
I don't want to hear anything my Creedence Clearwater Revival again for a looooong time. Van Halen is a waste of airtime, as is Pearl Jam.

The Beatles are good, but I'd like to hear more than the half-dozen songs that are played now.

I like Kansas and The Eagles better now that I've heard more than the usual radio hits.
Minoriteeburg
13-01-2009, 08:06
1.Nickelback
2.Nickelback

lol...


That is one band that needs to die in a plane crash...
Minoriteeburg
13-01-2009, 08:08
As for radio, I just gave up on radio all together, satellite and AM/FM.
Rejistania
13-01-2009, 08:28
Anything R'n'B is IMHO overrated. It all sounds alike to my ears. If you want 'black music' listen to a South African webradio or to something from the pacific islands.
Minoriteeburg
13-01-2009, 08:33
Anything R'n'B is IMHO overrated. It all sounds alike to my ears. If you want 'black music' listen to a South African webradio or to something from the pacific islands.

don't forget motown.
Rejistania
13-01-2009, 09:19
don't forget motown.
I don't even know that...
Cameroi
13-01-2009, 09:55
1. What bands do you believe to be WAY overrated? anything that gets played on clear channel, vh-1, or mtv (also i think the stones were the most over rate band in all of music history, but then sinatra and his rat pack probably were in their day too. its tempting to say the same about the beatles that first time they toured the u.s., oh and of course elvis, i put him in pretty much the same league as the stones. the only thing is, elvis DID introduce 'white' audiances to "black" popular music, or so the legend goes, and the beatles, DID redeam themselves when they caught on and caught/helped create, the 'hippie' era, after about their second or third alblum AFTER that first u.s. tour.)

2. What bands are good but you're tired of the same handful of songs the radio stations play? well i can't say because the radio stations i listen to DON'T play "the same handful of songs". the one i listen to most often, every two hours switches to a completely different genre. its one of those indipendent non comercial community stations. the other two i listen to, when kvmr is playing one of my less favorite genres, one is the local npr classical station and the other is the local npr jazz station.

most of the time, i just listen to the music on my computer though, which is stuff, free samples, from the websites of 'bands' that play stuff i like, mostly ambient synthasiser electronica, and then a whole range of just about everything other then rap, country or top 40. everything from ram bodgens, to celtic, to nepali, to anime themes, to filk (folk music of imaginary folk who are charicters in fantasy and science fiction stories), to ethnomusicological, to really early and ancient music, to native american musicians, to ..., yah, just about anything other then rap, country or top 40, even some, very little, that is unusual in its own genre of some of those.
Risottia
13-01-2009, 09:59
Just wondering:
1. What bands do you believe to be WAY overrated?


Way, way too long to list.
I might include Metallica after the Black Album (Vertigo). And Rammstein.

About issue #2, the radio here play only an ultra-small selection of Queen. "Another one bites the dust" ("Annamose a fà du toast" in its romanesco variant ;) ), "We will rock you" and "We are the champions", and that's all.
Rambhutan
13-01-2009, 14:35
Ub40
Lackadaisical2
13-01-2009, 16:06
2: At the risk of dying, I'll say Green Day. I'm sick of American Idiot (the album and the song.)

I liked Green Day's older stuff, but "American Idiot" was really shitty.

1. and 2. I would put a lot of the same bands already mentioned down.
Yootopia
13-01-2009, 17:10
Just wondering:

1. What bands do you believe to be WAY overrated?
Most of the so-called "indie" pish of the last couple of years.
2. What bands are good but you're tired of the same handful of songs the radio stations play?
Interpol. Also The Smiths.
The Mindset
13-01-2009, 17:34
Every single metal band in existence, especially any residing in one of the billion invented subgenres, even if they have no fans. All overrated.
One-O-One
13-01-2009, 17:42
As for radio, I just gave up on radio all together, satellite and AM/FM.

Radio New Zealand National is incredible, and basically on at all times at my house. I recommend giving them a listen on line sometime. http://www.radionz.co.nz/ if you're interested. They do absolutely everything in the music shows they do. They have a great interviews with interesting people etc. Hell, I think you can even give 'em a listen on the Short Wave if you're so inclined.

EDIT: Ah, proof, on the front page, in "Coming Up" it has "The Jazz at Lincoln Center concert features the all-star ensemble, the San Francisco Jazz Collective."
"In part four of The Davies Diaries, The Kinks immortalise Terry (Terrence Stamp) and Julie Christie and The Stones get busted for drugs."

Fuckin' aye!
Pure Metal
13-01-2009, 18:54
Just wondering:

1. What bands do you believe to be WAY overrated?
2. What bands are good but you're tired of the same handful of songs the radio stations play?

I know I've often thought a band sucked, but later learned that my opinion was based on the fact that 2 or 3 mediocre songs were being played by the radio stations and that they had some really good stuff that never got airtime. But that's not as much fun as saying that the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, The Killers, and AC/DC are WAY overrated :mad:

*awaits flaming*

1. guns n roses, AC/DC
2. whiskey in the jar (its a song, not a band, i know, but excessive playing has killed that song for me)


Planet Rock (http://www.planetrock.co.uk/) in the UK is the best radio station evar (also available streaming online)
Nanatsu no Tsuki
13-01-2009, 18:58
Just wondering:

1. What bands do you believe to be WAY overrated?
2. What bands are good but you're tired of the same handful of songs the radio stations play?

I know I've often thought a band sucked, but later learned that my opinion was based on the fact that 2 or 3 mediocre songs were being played by the radio stations and that they had some really good stuff that never got airtime. But that's not as much fun as saying that the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, The Killers, and AC/DC are WAY overrated :mad:

*awaits flaming*

1. Mägo de Oz, I'm sorry Spanish rock, and although I enjoy this band, I feel they act more as a copy-cat of bands like Led Zeppelin and Iron Maiden.
2. El Sueño de Morfeo, putting Asturias in the forefront of the Spanish musical scene, but I am freaking tired of hearing "Okupa de tu corazón'' whenever I put KISS FM. Gah!
New Wallonochia
13-01-2009, 18:59
don't forget motown.

It was their 50th anniversary yesterday.
Rambhutan
13-01-2009, 18:59
Has anybody mentioned Queen yet?
Yootopia
13-01-2009, 18:59
Planet Rock (http://www.planetrock.co.uk/) in the UK is the best radio station evar (also available streaming online)
Hah! Listen to Steve McKenna on RealRadio and you may in fact change your mind.
Hairless Kitten
13-01-2009, 19:00
Radiohead. I just hate them.
Dumb Ideologies
13-01-2009, 19:39
Metallica and Iron Maiden.

I just don't get it. I listen to their stuff and find it okay, if a bit dull, yet so many people I know seem to think they are some kind of musical gods.
Pure Metal
13-01-2009, 19:51
Hah! Listen to Steve McKenna on RealRadio and you may in fact change your mind.

but PR has Rick Wakeman, Alice Cooper, Fish, Joe Bonamassa, etc

is RealRadio free? cos i used to listen to stations on realplayer but they started charging for all the ones i liked :rolleyes:
Hairless Kitten
13-01-2009, 19:56
I hate radiohead, but I hate these people more:

eros ramazotti
britney spears
the back street boys

*zum kotzen*
Intangelon
13-01-2009, 20:20
Fleetwood Mac, both categories.
Yootopia
13-01-2009, 21:18
is RealRadio free? cos i used to listen to stations on realplayer but they started charging for all the ones i liked :rolleyes:
We're talking Real Radio of Scotland here, not of the Real Media Corporation or whatever it's called.
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 21:22
Metallica and Iron Maiden.

I just don't get it. I listen to their stuff and find it okay, if a bit dull, yet so many people I know seem to think they are some kind of musical gods.

Youre doing it wrong.
Dumb Ideologies
13-01-2009, 23:47
Youre doing it wrong.

Iron Maiden are approximately as interesting to listen to as an audio compilation of the world's dullest paint drying contests featuring added commentary from Al Gore.
Knights of Liberty
13-01-2009, 23:48
Iron Maiden are approximately as interesting to listen to as an audio compilation of the world's dullest paint drying contests featuring added commentary by Al Gore.

Youre doing it wrong.
Dumb Ideologies
13-01-2009, 23:57
Youre doing it wrong.

Youre doing it wrong.

I'm sorry, but twice? Needs more apostrophes :)
Knights of Liberty
14-01-2009, 00:31
I'm sorry, but twice? Needs more apostrophes :)

;);)
Minoriteeburg
14-01-2009, 01:30
Radio New Zealand National is incredible, and basically on at all times at my house. I recommend giving them a listen on line sometime. http://www.radionz.co.nz/ if you're interested. They do absolutely everything in the music shows they do. They have a great interviews with interesting people etc. Hell, I think you can even give 'em a listen on the Short Wave if you're so inclined.

EDIT: Ah, proof, on the front page, in "Coming Up" it has "The Jazz at Lincoln Center concert features the all-star ensemble, the San Francisco Jazz Collective."
"In part four of The Davies Diaries, The Kinks immortalise Terry (Terrence Stamp) and Julie Christie and The Stones get busted for drugs."

Fuckin' aye!


Thanks I added the station to my favorites.:D
Rathanan
14-01-2009, 01:33
Just wondering:

1. What bands do you believe to be WAY overrated?
2. What bands are good but you're tired of the same handful of songs the radio stations play?

I know I've often thought a band sucked, but later learned that my opinion was based on the fact that 2 or 3 mediocre songs were being played by the radio stations and that they had some really good stuff that never got airtime. But that's not as much fun as saying that the Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, The Killers, and AC/DC are WAY overrated :mad:

*awaits flaming*

Most modern music and a lot of the classic rock people put up on a pedestal.

1. Alice in Chains, Puddle of Mud, Killswitch Engage, and all those other bands that sound pretty much the same.

2. AC/DC is WAY overrated... While I like their music, Led Zeppelin is overrated (I prefer the Yardbirds), along with Pink Floyd. As a big Deep Purple fan, I'm also quite sick of hearing Smoke on the Water... They have many other songs that are way better and are hardly played.

As a guitar teacher, the biggest pet peeve I have is when I have a teenage student who wants to play like Linkin Park... Linkin Park sucks... Probably the most overrated band in modern time. After three weeks of teaching them how easy Linkin Park music is, I'm usually successful at changing their taste in rock.
Yootopia
14-01-2009, 02:08
As a guitar teacher, the biggest pet peeve I have is when I have a teenage student who wants to play like Linkin Park... Linkin Park sucks... Probably the most overrated band in modern time. After three weeks of teaching them how easy Linkin Park music is, I'm usually successful at changing their taste in rock.
Teach them some Interpol. Piss easy to play, but actually good.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
14-01-2009, 03:55
1. Alice in Chains, Puddle of Mud, Killswitch Engage, and all those other bands that sound pretty much the same.
If you can't tell the difference between Alice in Chains and Puddle of Mud, you obviously have no ear for metal.
As a guitar teacher, the biggest pet peeve I have is when I have a teenage student who wants to play like Linkin Park... Linkin Park sucks... Probably the most overrated band in modern time. After three weeks of teaching them how easy Linkin Park music is, I'm usually successful at changing their taste in rock.
As a music teacher, I'd hope you'd have better taste than to assume simple=bad. Linkin Park are mediocre for reasons that have nothing to do with how easy their music is to play.
Knights of Liberty
14-01-2009, 03:56
If you can't tell the difference between Alice in Chains and Puddle of Mud, you obviously have no ear for metal.

Did...did you just call Alice in Chains or Puddle of Mud "metal"?
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
14-01-2009, 04:04
Did...did you just call Alice in Chains or Puddle of Mud "metal"?
Alice in Chains, yeah. Their time, place and dead vocalist get them classified as Grunge by a lot of people (sometimes, me), but if Facelift had been recorded in San Francisco, it would have been classed as Metal.

Puddle of Mud, I'll admit I might be wrong about. I only heard a couple of their songs on the radio and wrote the band off as Generic Nu Metal Whiner #445.
Lord Tothe
14-01-2009, 04:33
Did...did you just call Alice in Chains or Puddle of Mud "metal"?

Now THIS is metal! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1E44eFaHXk&feature=related)
Knights of Liberty
14-01-2009, 05:20
Alice in Chains, yeah. Their time, place and dead vocalist get them classified as Grunge by a lot of people (sometimes, me), but if Facelift had been recorded in San Francisco, it would have been classed as Metal.

Facelift is about as metal as Metallica's The Black Album. As in not at all.
Skallvia
14-01-2009, 05:32
That is one band that needs to die in a plane crash...

I agree, I actually liked Silver Side Up....But god everything else is just crap, and the clones are worse than that....
Skallvia
14-01-2009, 05:33
Alice in Chains, yeah. Their time, place and dead vocalist get them classified as Grunge by a lot of people (sometimes, me), but if Facelift had been recorded in San Francisco, it would have been classed as Metal.

Puddle of Mud, I'll admit I might be wrong about. I only heard a couple of their songs on the radio and wrote the band off as Generic Nu Metal Whiner #445.

Dont worry, youre correct, lol...

Skalvia misses AIC badly though, Ive got all their albums except Sap...:(


IDk If ill be able to handle the new album without Layne, they shouldve used a different name....
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
14-01-2009, 06:02
Facelift is about as metal as Metallica's The Black Album. As in not at all.
You are, of course, a professional critic? No? Well then fuck off.
All Music Guide (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:3ifwxqw5ldae), among other reputable sources (both in and outside the metal community), classify Alice in Chains as metal. I don't know what sort of narrow definition you're using, but it isn't one with which the majority are familiar.
The Brevious
14-01-2009, 06:07
Needs more apostrophes :)Needs more cowbell!
http://foggland.com/christopher_walken.jpg
The Brevious
14-01-2009, 06:10
2. Pink Floyd. Love em. But if I hear "Hey You", "Money", or "Comfortably Numb" one more time, someone is going to die.Ooh, that reminds me. The ocarina is a great solo instrument for both Wish You Were Here AND Mother!
*can't afford a pan flute*
Intangelon
14-01-2009, 09:09
The only thing worse than mediocre music is people arguing over the genre to which it should belong.
Rambhutan
14-01-2009, 12:29
The Streets

Craig David (I hate his music, vocals so heavily processed to make them in tune, whiny voiced where's my kestrel bastard)
New Wallonochia
14-01-2009, 16:36
The Streets

Indeed. He's like a British Eminem, only worse.