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2 wrongs make a right?

Black Kids
13-01-2009, 02:22
Yes or No. Do two wrongs make a right?
greed and death
13-01-2009, 02:26
2 wrongs make a right in multiplication and division.

In addition they never make a right.
In subtraction they make a right if the wrong being subtracted is bigger then the original wrong.
Turaan
13-01-2009, 02:26
Sometimes.
Perhaps.
Maybe.
:D

Seriously, no. Even if they happen to make a right once in a while, it's mostly due to chance.
Ifreann
13-01-2009, 02:27
No, two wrongs make "wrong wrong".
Black Kids
13-01-2009, 02:29
I put yes just for the hell of it. I personally think it's ok at some times.
Free Soviets
13-01-2009, 02:31
well, if rightness is bound up with some consequentialist theory, it is at least possible that two actions which would be wrong if judged independently could jointly bring about right when combined. like captain planet.
Zombie PotatoHeads
13-01-2009, 02:32
Two Wongs would just make a little Wong, given the time and assuming they're of opposite gender.
Ifreann
13-01-2009, 02:32
well, if rightness is bound up with some consequentialist theory, it is at least possible that two actions which would be wrong if judged independently could jointly bring about right when combined. like captain planet.

http://www.kennethseals.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/captain_planet.jpg
Black Kids
13-01-2009, 02:34
I assumed two wongs make it white?
Articoa
13-01-2009, 02:48
Yes, someone steals my cookie. I steal it back. Both wrong, but ends in right!
Free Soviets
13-01-2009, 02:55
Yes, someone steals my cookie. I steal it back. Both wrong, but ends in right!

i'm not sure your taking it back is unambiguously wrong...
Wilgrove
13-01-2009, 02:56
No, but three lefts make a right! :D
Articoa
13-01-2009, 02:59
i'm not sure your taking it back is unambiguously wrong...

Um, then I gave him a new cookie laced with poison. Will that suffice? :p
greed and death
13-01-2009, 03:00
i'm not sure your taking it back is unambiguously wrong...

depends. say the person who stole it from you died and his children inherited the cookie. They didn't steal it, they don't even know it was stolen. And they see the cookie as theirs. Sort of like the white farmers in Zimbabwe.
Lord Tothe
13-01-2009, 03:03
3 lefts make a right...

*edit*
No, but three lefts make a right! :D
curse you, Wil! *shakes fist*
Articoa
13-01-2009, 03:04
depends. say the person who stole it from you died and his children inherited the cookie. They didn't steal it, they don't even know it was stolen. And they see the cookie as theirs. Sort of like the white farmers in Zimbabwe.

Ya know, I meant it pretty straightforward... There is no hidden deeper meaning. But a cookie for you for actually finidng one!
Zombie PotatoHeads
13-01-2009, 03:06
i'm not sure your taking it back is unambiguously wrong...
what if he has a whole sack of cookies while the first thief is diabetic and will soon die without eating said cookie.
Would that make his taking it back unambiguously wrong?

and before you then point out that now the 1st thief is not unambiguously wrong, we'll contrive it further and say thief #1 has enough money to buy said cookie but is too stingy to do so, prefering to steal Arti's cookies.

There. contrived and convoluted but nonetheless unambiguously wrong on both parts!
Articoa
13-01-2009, 03:07
what if he has a whole sack of cookies while the first thief is diabetic and will soon die without eating said cookie.
Would that make his taking it back unambiguously wrong?

and before you then point out that now the 1st thief is not unambiguously wrong, we'll contrive it further and say thief #1 has enough money to buy said cookie but is too stingy to do so, prefering to steal Arti's cookies.

There. contrived and convoluted but nonetheless unambiguously wrong on both parts!

And a cookie for this one too. You guys are on a roll.
Katganistan
13-01-2009, 03:11
No. But three lefts do.
Intestinal fluids
13-01-2009, 03:45
I want to be the 4th person to mention that three lefts make a right!
greed and death
13-01-2009, 04:04
Ya know, I meant it pretty straightforward... There is no hidden deeper meaning. But a cookie for you for actually finidng one!

I like cookies.
Wilgrove
13-01-2009, 04:27
No, but three lefts make a right! :D

No. But three lefts do.

Kat, you gotta read the whole thread! I thought Mods painstakingly go through each page of a thread with a fine tooth comb!


3 lefts make a right...

*edit*

curse you, Wil! *shakes fist*

See, Lord Tothe knows how to do it!

*hands Kat a fine tooth comb*

http://www.executive-shaving.co.uk/shaving/hair-combs/7t.jpg
United Anacreon
13-01-2009, 05:56
4 lefts equals wrong way.
Galloism
13-01-2009, 05:58
4 lefts equals wrong way.

Actually, four lefts would equal the same way.
United Anacreon
13-01-2009, 06:01
Actually, four lefts would equal the same way.

Nice
South Lizasauria
13-01-2009, 07:14
Yes or No. Do two wrongs make a right?

depends :wink:
New Ziedrich
13-01-2009, 07:19
Voted yes, because half-baked revenge plots sometimes end in comedy.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-01-2009, 07:25
Actually, four lefts would equal the same way.
Only if they are 90 degree turns separated by more or less equal distances. Otherwise, you could end up in a spiral, or heading back the way you came, or whatever.
Galloism
13-01-2009, 07:27
Only if they are 90 degree turns separated by more or less equal distances. Otherwise, you could end up in a spiral, or heading back the way you came, or whatever.

One could say the same about 3 lefts equalling a right.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-01-2009, 07:58
One could say the same about 3 lefts equalling a right.
No they can't. Because if they did, I would hate them, and I would track them down and I would beat them. Or at least flick their ears several times.
Risottia
13-01-2009, 07:59
2 wrongs make a right in multiplication and division.

In addition they never make a right.
In subtraction they make a right if the wrong being subtracted is bigger then the original wrong.

winner.
Rejistania
13-01-2009, 09:22
No, but three lefts make a right! :D

I see that someone has been playing nethack...
Wilgrove
13-01-2009, 09:32
I see that someone has been playing nethack...

What is Nethack?
The Romulan Republic
13-01-2009, 09:38
No, it doesn't. Revenge and meeting injustice with injustice are for immature brats and thugs.
Cameroi
13-01-2009, 09:39
there's exactly one "right" that's made by two wrongs. its wrong too, but its called right. something to do with the dexter side of some isle in some Parliament somewhere, and of course that's what's called a 'right wing'.
Luna Amore
13-01-2009, 09:44
Two wrongs don't make a right, but they do make a point.
Rejistania
13-01-2009, 09:53
What is Nethack?
One of the best games ever... http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NetHack
Alexandrian Ptolemais
13-01-2009, 12:16
In my opinion, it depends on the scenario posed. Sometimes 2 wrongs make a right, but that is rare.
Rambhutan
13-01-2009, 12:30
Two wrongs make a very short ladder
Rotovia-
13-01-2009, 12:50
Killing is immoral. A kills B. C kills A.

That is we're essentially having, and it doesn't take a genius to realise that the truth is far from universal on this one
greed and death
13-01-2009, 15:41
winner.

what do I win???
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 15:55
It depends on your definition and perspective. If a "right" outcome comes from the second "wrong", then by some definitions, it wasn't a wrong.

If you come from an absolutist moralist perspective, such as "killing is wrong", then if someone had, say, killed Hitler (hey, godwin!) that would have been wrong, but also possibly a better outcome.

Others would say that killing hitler wasn't a wrong, as the results, not the actions, are what matters.
Desperate Measures
13-01-2009, 15:58
http://www.kennethseals.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/captain_planet.jpg

I think my penis just got permanently smaller.
The Romulan Republic
13-01-2009, 16:02
It depends on your definition and perspective. If a "right" outcome comes from the second "wrong", then by some definitions, it wasn't a wrong.

If you come from an absolutist moralist perspective, such as "killing is wrong", then if someone had, say, killed Hitler (hey, godwin!) that would have been wrong, but also possibly a better outcome.

Others would say that killing hitler wasn't a wrong, as the results, not the actions, are what matters.

Killing isn't wrong in self-defense or defense of other innocent lives, if its nessissary. In Hitler's case, killing him might save a lot of lives, given he was a mass-murdering dictator.
Ifreann
13-01-2009, 16:03
I think my penis just got permanently smaller.

Cicrumscision is for medical professional and rabbis only.
Desperate Measures
13-01-2009, 16:19
Cicrumscision is for medical professional and rabbis only.

Note my name, then look at the picture and then tell me that these are not desperate times.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
13-01-2009, 16:29
I think my penis just got permanently smaller.
Did you notice the crotch bulge? If you haven't, than you should stare long and hard until you notice it.
Neo Art
13-01-2009, 16:32
Killing isn't wrong in self-defense or defense of other innocent lives, if its nessissary. In Hitler's case, killing him might save a lot of lives, given he was a mass-murdering dictator.

and that would be YOUR definition of wrong. Others would disagree.
Trostia
13-01-2009, 17:36
Killing is never wrong if the other guy does it first. Same goes for mass rape, terrorism, war crimes and genocide! So the trick to getting away with this shit scot-free is just make sure someone else does it first. Then you get to occupy the moral high ground of the righteously wounded, AND perpetrate atrocities and get away with them.

I mean, remember when we put Stalin on trial for war crimes? Yeah me neither.
Megaloria
13-01-2009, 17:37
No, but three lefts make a right! :D

Some people aren't ambi-turners.