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What is a Good 'Sorry' Gift for a Blind Woman?

SaintB
12-01-2009, 01:19
Ok, so I have mentioned in the past I have far more female freinds than male freinds (lately I have been thinking that could possibly be my reason for being exceptionally undateable but that is for a blog). One of the ones I always enjoyed knowing the most is totally and completly blind. Recently at an impromptu pre-New Year's Eve celebration I was in the kitchen pouring drinks for my brother and myself when she came into my kitchen and bumped right into me, spilling an entire fifth of vodka on my new T-Shirt I was wearing, unthinkingly, and without knowing who it was (I was preoccupied) I turned on her and shouted "Wtahc the fuck you are going!" right in her face. Throughout the night she was already angry at me, but I made it worse by making some malign comments about people in general (especially local women) that really upset her even more.
I am going to appologize to her... and when I appologize to a ladyfreind I always buy some kind of gift, usually a white rose or a little "I'm Sorry" stuffed animal. But as I said, she is 100% blind. After almost 2 weeks of thinking this through I decided to ask NSG... what kind of gift can I get a blind woman to tell her I am sorry?
Gun Manufacturers
12-01-2009, 01:22
Ok, so I have mentioned in the past I have far more female freinds than male freinds (lately I have been thinking that could possibly be my reason for being exceptionally undateable but that is for a blog). One of the ones I always enjoyed knowing the most is totally and completly blind. Recently at an impromptu pre-New Year's Eve celebration I was in the kitchen pouring drinks for my brother and myself when she came into my kitchen and bumped right into me, spilling an entire fifth of vodka on my new T-Shirt I was wearing, unthinkingly, and without knowing who it was (I was preoccupied) I turned on her and shouted "Wtahc the fuck you are going!" right in her face. Throughout the night she was already angry at me, but I made it worse by making some malign comments about people in general (especially local women) that really upset her even more.
I am going to appologize to her... and when I appologize to a ladyfreind I always buy some kind of gift, usually a white rose or a little "I'm Sorry" stuffed animal. But as I said, she is 100% blind. After almost 2 weeks of thinking this through I decided to ask NSG... what kind of gift can I get a blind woman to tell her I am sorry?

Sight?




:eek:




:D
Brittanican Adenia
12-01-2009, 01:22
Ok, so I have mentioned in the past I have far more female freinds than male freinds (lately I have been thinking that could possibly be my reason for being exceptionally undateable but that is for a blog). One of the ones I always enjoyed knowing the most is totally and completly blind. Recently at an impromptu pre-New Year's Eve celebration I was in the kitchen pouring drinks for my brother and myself when she came into my kitchen and bumped right into me, spilling an entire fifth of vodka on my new T-Shirt I was wearing, unthinkingly, and without knowing who it was (I was preoccupied) I turned on her and shouted "Wtahc the fuck you are going!" right in her face. Throughout the night she was already angry at me, but I made it worse by making some malign comments about people in general (especially local women) that really upset her even more.
I am going to appologize to her... and when I appologize to a ladyfreind I always buy some kind of gift, usually a white rose or a little "I'm Sorry" stuffed animal. But as I said, she is 100% blind. After almost 2 weeks of thinking this through I decided to ask NSG... what kind of gift can I get a blind woman to tell her I am sorry?

Wow. You fucked up. ;)

That said, treat her to a nice meal as a sorry present. Especially if you cook it.

That is to say, cook it well.
Chazakain
12-01-2009, 01:22
sun glasses *nods*



really? i have no clue.
Myedvedeya
12-01-2009, 01:22
A stuffed animal might work, they're still about touch mostly. Or, bake/cook her something.

Or, you could buy her a car, like Oprah did for Ray Charles, but that would cost way too much, and probably get you labeled an insensitive jerk anyway. :p
Intestinal fluids
12-01-2009, 01:22
Fake jewelry and a good story.
Saige Dragon
12-01-2009, 01:23
Something that smells good...
Knights of Liberty
12-01-2009, 01:23
Your cock.


What, you expected serious advice?
Fartsniffage
12-01-2009, 01:27
What's wrong with the single rose and "I'm sorry" printed on a card in Braille?

A rose is very tactile and smells good and I'm sure the effort you'd need to go to to get the card printed in braille would be appreciated.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 01:29
What's wrong with the single rose and "I'm sorry" printed on a card in Braille?

A rose is very tactile and smells good and I'm sure the effort you'd need to go to to get the card printed in braille would be appreciated.

Hmm.. especially one with a personalized message.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 01:30
Fake jewelry and a good story.

That never works.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 01:32
Or, you could buy her a car, like Oprah did for Ray Charles, but that would cost way too much, and probably get you labeled an insensitive jerk anyway. :p

If I had the money to buy a car, it would be for me.
Fartsniffage
12-01-2009, 01:32
Hmm.. especially one with a personalized message.

My experience is that it's less the gift and more how much you've thought about it. Just try to make it personal.

I've offended a lot of people in my time. :(
Myedvedeya
12-01-2009, 01:33
If I had the money to buy a car, it would be for me.

If I had the money to fix my car, after it got ruined yesterday, I would be very, very happy.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 01:33
Wow. You fucked up. ;)

That said, treat her to a nice meal as a sorry present. Especially if you cook it.

That is to say, cook it well.

A stuffed animal might work, they're still about touch mostly. Or, bake/cook her something.

I can cook, but I can't bake to save my life. Though I do not want to send the wrong message, inviting her over for a meal I cooked could be misconstrued.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 01:34
My experience is that it's less the gift and more how much you've thought about it. Just try to make it personal.

I've offended a lot of people in my time. :(

I don't have that problem, I usually have the gift to say anything about anyone and not offend people...
Fartsniffage
12-01-2009, 01:35
I can cook, but I can't bake to save my life. Though I do not want to send the wrong message, inviting her over for a meal I cooked could be misconstrued.

So let her know what it is when you invite her.

"Hi, I feel really bad about the other night. I want to cook you dinner to apoligise."
Fartsniffage
12-01-2009, 01:37
I don't have that problem, I usually have the gift to say anything about anyone and not offend people...

OK, I don't offend people that much but I like buying presents. Presents for others are fun.
Katganistan
12-01-2009, 01:37
I'd say a heartfelt apology and, as mentioned above, a good meal you've cooked, or a cake you've baked, or a type of flower you know she likes... or taking her someplace you know she enjoys.

'Sorry, I was a jerk -- I didn't even realize what I was saying until it was too late/realize it was you until it was too late/forgot for a split second that you weren't sighted but feel awful to have hurt you like that', might also help.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 01:39
So let her know what it is when you invite her.

"Hi, I feel really bad about the other night. I want to cook you dinner to apoligise."

... and hope she doesn't think I'm trying to pretend to be sensitive to get laid...

Good idea in thoery, perhaps not in practice. Maybe after some other way of proving my intentions are plutonic.
Bouitazia
12-01-2009, 01:39
She still has 4 more senses,
so I would recommend something that either;
A) Smells nice.
B) Feels nice.
C) Sounds nice
or D) Tastes nice.

Or maybe a combination of several of those?
Knights of Liberty
12-01-2009, 01:40
... and hope she doesn't think I'm trying to pretend to be sensitive to get laid...

Good idea in thoery, perhaps not in practice. Maybe after some other way of proving my intentions are plutonic.

Is she that paranoid/into herself? Or have you tried that on her or someone she knows before?:p


I think most women would take such a gesture at face value.


*snip*
B) Feels nice.
*snip*
or D) Tastes nice.



See my prior comment about giving her his cock.
Katganistan
12-01-2009, 01:40
Platonic.

Plutonic would have to do with Mickey Mouse's dog, or a recently downgraded planetoid.
Fartsniffage
12-01-2009, 01:41
... and hope she doesn't think I'm trying to pretend to be sensitive to get laid...

Good idea in thoery, perhaps not in practice. Maybe after some other way of proving my intentions are plutonic.

Just tell her it's platonic.

The only way that's going to sound bad is if she fancies you, in which case you're pretty much boned no matter what you do.
Myedvedeya
12-01-2009, 01:41
Platonic.

Plutonic would have to do with Mickey Mouse's dog, or a recently downgraded planetoid.

You english teacher!
Fartsniffage
12-01-2009, 01:42
Platonic.

Plutonic would have to do with Mickey Mouse's dog, or a recently downgraded planetoid.

Can you stop being a teacher for one damned minute.

A man's in pain here. :p
Myedvedeya
12-01-2009, 01:42
Just tell her it's platonic.

The only way that's going to sound bad is if she fancies you, in which case you're pretty much boned no matter what you do.

pun intended?
Sparkelle
12-01-2009, 01:43
chocolate?
Fartsniffage
12-01-2009, 01:44
pun intended?

Take it as you find it. :D
Bouitazia
12-01-2009, 01:47
See my prior comment about giving her his cock.

I don't like the sound of that,
it feels rather taste-less to me. ,)
SaintB
12-01-2009, 01:48
Platonic.

Plutonic would have to do with Mickey Mouse's dog, or a recently downgraded planetoid.

Platonic, thanks.

Just tell her it's platonic.

The only way that's going to sound bad is if she fancies you, in which case you're pretty much boned no matter what you do.

She's known me since college; and that was one of the things I always did for dates. Its what has me a bit uncertain about that.
Brittanican Adenia
12-01-2009, 01:49
Though I do not want to send the wrong message, inviting her over for a meal I cooked could be misconstrued.

You could get make-up sex. Which would be the best kind of misconstrued EVAR.
Katganistan
12-01-2009, 01:50
Can you stop being a teacher for one damned minute.

A man's in pain here. :p
Well... I was trying to avoid a situation where she would say, "What? Are you comparing me to a dog?!" if she's really that upset. ;)
SaintB
12-01-2009, 01:50
You could get make-up sex. Which would be the best kind of misconstrued EVAR.

You know it might sound wierd but I don't fnd every woman on earth sexually attractive.. in fact we'd be horrible as a couple.
Knights of Liberty
12-01-2009, 01:51
You know it might sound wierd but I don't fnd every woman on earth sexually attractive.. in fact we'd be horrible as a couple.

What is this world you live in where fucking someone means youre now a couple?


I do not like this place.
Katganistan
12-01-2009, 01:53
What is this world you live in where fucking someone means youre now a couple?


I do not like this place.
Perhaps he takes fucking more seriously than, "So, see ya around." Perhaps she does, too. I know I do. Not everyone has to, of course...
Myedvedeya
12-01-2009, 01:53
Well... I was trying to avoid a situation where she would say, "What? Are you comparing me to a dog?!" if she's really that upset. ;)

"Are you insinuating that I have the mass of a planetoid!?!"
greed and death
12-01-2009, 01:54
A tshirt with something written on it like I am easy.
then next time you meet with friends she wears it and you all get a good laugh.
Katganistan
12-01-2009, 01:54
"Are you insinuating that I have the mass of a planetoid!?!"
Yes, that would be A Bad Thing(tm) as well.
Fartsniffage
12-01-2009, 01:56
Yes, that would be A Bad Thing(tm) as well.

God women are complicated.

If it was a bloke you could just buy him a pint and pay for the first game of pool and all would be forgiven.
Myedvedeya
12-01-2009, 01:56
Yes, that would be A Bad Thing(tm) as well.

Sublimely.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:00
What is this world you live in where fucking someone means youre now a couple?


I do not like this place.

The world I live in is a world of not being able to wear condoms; I take sex more seriously than some people.
Fartsniffage
12-01-2009, 02:02
The world I live in is a world of not being able to wear condoms; I take sex more seriously than some people.

Catholic or allergic to latex?
Myedvedeya
12-01-2009, 02:02
The world I live in is a world of not being able to wear condoms; I take sex more seriously than some people.

Why not able to wear condoms?
Ashmoria
12-01-2009, 02:02
Ok, so I have mentioned in the past I have far more female freinds than male freinds (lately I have been thinking that could possibly be my reason for being exceptionally undateable but that is for a blog). One of the ones I always enjoyed knowing the most is totally and completly blind. Recently at an impromptu pre-New Year's Eve celebration I was in the kitchen pouring drinks for my brother and myself when she came into my kitchen and bumped right into me, spilling an entire fifth of vodka on my new T-Shirt I was wearing, unthinkingly, and without knowing who it was (I was preoccupied) I turned on her and shouted "Wtahc the fuck you are going!" right in her face. Throughout the night she was already angry at me, but I made it worse by making some malign comments about people in general (especially local women) that really upset her even more.
I am going to appologize to her... and when I appologize to a ladyfreind I always buy some kind of gift, usually a white rose or a little "I'm Sorry" stuffed animal. But as I said, she is 100% blind. After almost 2 weeks of thinking this through I decided to ask NSG... what kind of gift can I get a blind woman to tell her I am sorry?
she bumped into you and she's pissed that you said something.....inadvertently cruel.

she needs to grow the fuck up.

most "handicapped" people want to be treated like anyone else. guess she's the exception.

call her up and see if she is still mad. if she is apologize again but not effusively. if she cant accept it, shes a psychobitch.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:05
Catholic or allergic to latex?

Why not able to wear condoms?


Very sensitive skin, its actually my own sweat being trapped against my skin that causes the problems.
Myedvedeya
12-01-2009, 02:06
Very sensitive skin, its actually my own sweat being trapped against my skin that causes the problems.

That is more than a little bit unfortunate.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:08
she bumped into you and she's pissed that you said something.....inadvertently cruel.

she needs to grow the fuck up.

most "handicapped" people want to be treated like anyone else. guess she's the exception.

call her up and see if she is still mad. if she is apologize again but not effusively. if she cant accept it, shes a psychobitch.

It was the "Watch where the fuck you are going!" that did it, of course she was drunk and that could also have an impact on the whole thing.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:09
That is more than a little bit unfortunate.

You don't need to tell me that :p.
greed and death
12-01-2009, 02:09
Very sensitive skin, its actually my own sweat being trapped against my skin that causes the problems.

have you tried lamb skin condoms ??? they let a little of the water out.
Wilgrove
12-01-2009, 02:11
-snip-

Tell her you know this handsome guy (what, she's blind, she's not going to know) who lives in NC and would love to treat her to a date. :)

Seriously though, give her a rose, with a card written in braille, and treat her to a nice home cooked meal.
Ashmoria
12-01-2009, 02:14
It was the "Watch where the fuck you are going!" that did it, of course she was drunk and that could also have an impact on the whole thing.
it wasnt a terrible remark.

its not like you said "watch where you are going you stupid c***" (it wasnt, right?)

we make insensitive remarks to our friends all the time. it never requires more than an apology at the time.

you did that. to keep on about it implies that she is too delicate to deal with the world.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:16
have you tried lamb skin condoms ??? they let a little of the water out.

Yup; its one of those things I gotta cope with.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:18
Tell her you know this handsome guy (what, she's blind, she's not going to know) who lives in NC and would love to treat her to a date. :)

If you live closer to Erie PA I'd see what I could do to throw you a bone ;).


Seriously though, give her a rose, with a card written in braille, and treat her to a nice home cooked meal.

Thast probably the route I'll be taking, and Ashmoria's.
greed and death
12-01-2009, 02:27
Yup; its one of those things I gotta cope with.

well then botox injections to prevent sweating. its the only way.
West GaFrickistan
12-01-2009, 02:31
Chocolate and a HUG!!!

Says it all!
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:33
well then botox injections to prevent sweating. its the only way.

I'll pass :p
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:34
Chocolate and a HUG!!!

Says it all!

Now why didn't I think of that one?
greed and death
12-01-2009, 02:38
I'll pass :p

don't be gay we all need causal sex in our lives. And condoms are the only *safe* way to do that.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:46
don't be gay we all need causal sex in our lives. And condoms are the only *safe* way to do that.

We don't all need casual sex.. what sex I have had has always been universally awesome.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 02:52
Anyhow, lets not derail the thread with my embarassing lack of a sex life and get to the question, how do I say I'm sorry?
Xomic
12-01-2009, 02:53
A Cashmere Sweater w/t roses.
greed and death
12-01-2009, 02:53
We don't all need casual sex.. what sex I have had has always been universally awesome.

you poor poor poor man
West GaFrickistan
12-01-2009, 02:55
Oops -- errr, someone else mentioned Chocolate in the first page

However, before administering the hug, I'd recommend explaining what it is and why !!!

The idea of a card in Braille, and a homecooked meal also sounds nice!
Dumb Ideologies
12-01-2009, 03:20
Shit dude...thats awkward. I'd have literally *died* with embarassment if that had happened to me. Its the sort of thing you'd expect to happen in an Ricky Gervais sitcom. Still, you're better than me...I don't think I could ever become close friends with someone who couldn't see or had some other major disability because I'd be scared of saying something awkward or not knowing how to act.

Chocolate, cooking a meal, a sorry card in braille, any of these aforementioned suggestions would show you're sorry for the misunderstanding. Wow, NSG can be helpful sometimes, who knew?
Vetalia
12-01-2009, 03:21
A handle of vodka split between friends should clear everything up. Nothing says "I'm sorry" like a good alcoholic beverage.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 03:22
I don't think I could ever become close friends with someone who couldn't see or had some other major disability because I'd be scared of saying something awkward or not knowing how to act.

I bet you could if you got over your inhibitions.


Chocolate, cooking a meal, a sorry card in braille, any of these aforemention suggestions would show you're sorry for the misunderstanding. Wow, NSG can be helpful sometimes, who knew?

Yeah who knew?
Pirated Corsairs
12-01-2009, 03:22
A handle of vodka split between friends should clear everything up. Nothing says "I'm sorry" like a good alcoholic beverage.

I heartily endorse this product and/or service.
SaintB
12-01-2009, 03:24
A handle of vodka split between friends should clear everything up. Nothing says "I'm sorry" like a good alcoholic beverage.

I heartily endorse this product and/or service.

Vodka is part of the problem in the first place. But then again, it has been said that alcohol is the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems...
Knights of Liberty
12-01-2009, 03:25
A handle of vodka split between friends should clear everything up. Nothing says "I'm sorry" like a good alcoholic beverage.

This should be done if sex is not an option.


Just make sure its good vodka.
Vetalia
12-01-2009, 03:28
This should be done if sex is not an option.

Just make sure its good vodka.

Oh yeah, definitely. If they're blind, it probably means they've got heightened acuity with their other senses which means cheap vodka's going to be even more unpleasant.
Zombie PotatoHeads
12-01-2009, 03:29
If she likes reading violent books, give her a cheese grater as a present.
Knights of Liberty
12-01-2009, 03:30
Oh yeah, definitely. If they're blind, it probably means they've got heightened acuity with their other senses which means cheap vodka's going to be even more unpleasant.

Yeah, sharing Smirnoff with her, for example, might piss her off even more.
The Scandinvans
12-01-2009, 03:33
She still has 4 more senses,
so I would recommend something that either;
A) Smells nice.
B) Feels nice.
C) Sounds nice
or D) Tastes nice.

Or maybe a combination of several of those?A puppy?
The Scandinvans
12-01-2009, 03:36
Shit dude...thats awkward. I'd have literally *died* with embarassment if that had happened to me. Its the sort of thing you'd expect to happen in an Ricky Gervais sitcom. Still, you're better than me...I don't think I could ever become close friends with someone who couldn't see or had some other major disability because I'd be scared of saying something awkward or not knowing how to act.

Chocolate, cooking a meal, a sorry card in braille, any of these aforementioned suggestions would show you're sorry for the misunderstanding. Wow, NSG can be helpful sometimes, who knew?When I bump into people I simply say," Say excuse me."

If I spill something then I say," Blasted." A second later I see who it is and then I continue my response based on who they are and how much I hate their guts.:mad:
Pirated Corsairs
12-01-2009, 03:36
Yeah, sharing Smirnoff with her, for example, might piss her off even more.

Unless it's Smirnoff that she owns, in which case she might thank you for disposing of half of it.

I don't actually think Smirnoff is that bad, compared to some other vodkas, I just wanted to make the joke...
Galloism
12-01-2009, 03:38
A puppy?

That only fits three of the four criteria. Puppies have that insanely irritating little bark, so I wouldn't say they sound nice.
Vetalia
12-01-2009, 03:40
Yeah, sharing Smirnoff with her, for example, might piss her off even more.

Even that's not as bad as diluted bottom-shelf...stuff. I mean, I might be in college but under no circumstances will any person ever consume that in my presence regardless of socioeconomic status.
The Scandinvans
12-01-2009, 03:40
That only fits three of the four criteria. Puppies have that insanely irritating little bark, so I wouldn't say they sound nice.A puppy who howls, can sound pretty nice depending on what floats your boat.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
12-01-2009, 03:46
Yeah, sharing Smirnoff with her, for example, might piss her off even more.
Or Svedka. The favored liquor in the dystopian future of 2033, when flavor is banned and the national pastime is Getting Kicked in the Throat by a Man Wearing Cleats.
Although it mixes quite well.
Smunkeeville
12-01-2009, 04:09
Ok, so I have mentioned in the past I have far more female freinds than male freinds (lately I have been thinking that could possibly be my reason for being exceptionally undateable but that is for a blog). One of the ones I always enjoyed knowing the most is totally and completly blind. Recently at an impromptu pre-New Year's Eve celebration I was in the kitchen pouring drinks for my brother and myself when she came into my kitchen and bumped right into me, spilling an entire fifth of vodka on my new T-Shirt I was wearing, unthinkingly, and without knowing who it was (I was preoccupied) I turned on her and shouted "Wtahc the fuck you are going!" right in her face. Throughout the night she was already angry at me, but I made it worse by making some malign comments about people in general (especially local women) that really upset her even more.
I am going to appologize to her... and when I appologize to a ladyfreind I always buy some kind of gift, usually a white rose or a little "I'm Sorry" stuffed animal. But as I said, she is 100% blind. After almost 2 weeks of thinking this through I decided to ask NSG... what kind of gift can I get a blind woman to tell her I am sorry?
Something that feels good or tastes good. I have a friend who has been blind since birth, the best present she ever got was a bear with corduroy overalls on.
Knights of Liberty
12-01-2009, 05:26
Or Svedka. The favored liquor in the dystopian future of 2033, when flavor is banned and the national pastime is Getting Kicked in the Throat by a Man Wearing Cleats.
Although it mixes quite well.


I think I have a new sig.
IduC
12-01-2009, 05:38
Chocolate, rose, hug, card in braille, the kick ass home cooked meal and an audio book of the genre she likes best - covering all the bases - taste, texture, scent, audio and YOUR Time and Effort to truly say you are sorry...
Ashmoria
12-01-2009, 06:32
Chocolate, rose, hug, card in braille, the kick ass home cooked meal and an audio book of the genre she likes best - covering all the bases - taste, texture, scent, audio and YOUR Time and Effort to truly say you are sorry...
good lord he blurted out a remark before noticing who she was. he didnt kill her cat.
Peisandros
12-01-2009, 06:33
Sight?




:eek:




:D

Surely this post = /thread.
Rotovia-
12-01-2009, 07:20
Eyesight?
Anti-Social Darwinism
12-01-2009, 08:56
Ok, so I have mentioned in the past I have far more female freinds than male freinds (lately I have been thinking that could possibly be my reason for being exceptionally undateable but that is for a blog). One of the ones I always enjoyed knowing the most is totally and completly blind. Recently at an impromptu pre-New Year's Eve celebration I was in the kitchen pouring drinks for my brother and myself when she came into my kitchen and bumped right into me, spilling an entire fifth of vodka on my new T-Shirt I was wearing, unthinkingly, and without knowing who it was (I was preoccupied) I turned on her and shouted "Wtahc the fuck you are going!" right in her face. Throughout the night she was already angry at me, but I made it worse by making some malign comments about people in general (especially local women) that really upset her even more.
I am going to appologize to her... and when I appologize to a ladyfreind I always buy some kind of gift, usually a white rose or a little "I'm Sorry" stuffed animal. But as I said, she is 100% blind. After almost 2 weeks of thinking this through I decided to ask NSG... what kind of gift can I get a blind woman to tell her I am sorry?

Any fragrant flower would be perfectly acceptable. Lilacs, roses, freesia - any flower that has perfume.

Anything that would give tactile pleasure - stuffed animals are nice.

A CD of her favorite musician.

Really good chocolate.

Or how about a sincere and humble apology from the heart.
JuNii
12-01-2009, 09:03
buy something she likes. if she likes a certain singer, then a cd she doesn't have, something you know she likes.

if nothing comes to mind, then treat her to dinner (either you cook or you buy) but the most important thing is to be sincere.
Cybach
12-01-2009, 11:46
"Where is Waldo" book.