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My vote is for Battlefield Earth.

There are contenders like Gigli and Glitter. Very few movies are terrible across the board though, I mean without even a cult following, but still I think too many to make a poll. In your opinion though, which movie is the champion (of crap)?

edit: by "movie", I mean those released nationally (or even globally) by commercial distributors. What you'd go see at the local cinema at some point, not student films or any other broad concept of "movie".

These threads always illustrate people's ridiculous threshold's for 'worst movie ever.' We're already off to a bad start. Battlefield Earth? I can think of three movies off the top of my head that would have you begging me to put on Battlefield Earth and even then we haven't begun to scrape low enough in the barrel to start even saying "some of the worst."

If Battlefield Earth is the worst movie you've seen then you've had a spectacular run. Good job. (and I am in no way 'defending' Battlefield Earth)

And this doesn't even touch the number of student screenings I've had to sit through. And then you have to look the filmmaker in the face and try and find something nice to say because you need that yutz to light your next project.

These threads always illustrate people's ridiculous threshold's for 'worst movie ever.' We're already off to a bad start. Battlefield Earth? I can think of three movies off the top of my head that would have you begging me to put on Battlefield Earth and even then we haven't begun to scrape low enough in the barrel to start even saying "some of the worst."

If Battlefield Earth is the worst movie you've seen then you've had a spectacular run. Good job. (and I am in no way 'defending' Battlefield Earth)

And this doesn't even touch the number of student screenings I've had to sit through. And then you have to look the filmmaker in the face and try and find something nice to say because you need that yutz to light your next project.

Well let's be more specific. It was implied to mean commercial movies from established studios. Basically, anything that gets released in your local movie theaters. Something some kid filmed on his cell phone to upload it to youtube would not apply. With that said, I can't think of any movie worse than Battlefield Earth. In my judgment I take into consideration abstract things like the hype that surrounded it or expectation.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Well let's be more specific. It was implied to mean commercial movies from established studios. Basically, anything that gets released in your local movie theaters. Something some kid filmed on his cell phone to upload it to youtube would not apply. With that said, I can't think of any movie worse than Battlefield Earth. In my judgment I take into consideration abstract things like the hype that surrounded it or expectation.

If I hadn't even gotten to student screenings, then we certainly haven't even flown close enough to YouTube territory to recognize it.

I was in fact talking about commercial releases. I stand by what I said.

And if you went into Battlefield Earth with any kind of expectation the fault lies on you. An perhaps whatever nutcase you were listening to.

If I hadn't even gotten to student screenings, then we certainly haven't even flown close enough to YouTube territory to recognize it.

I was in fact talking about commercial releases. I stand by what I said.

And if you went into Battlefield Earth with any kind of expectation the fault lies on you. An perhaps whatever nutcase you were listening to.

Out of curiosity, what movie would you say is the worst?

If I hadn't even gotten to student screenings, then we certainly haven't even flown close enough to YouTube territory to recognize it.

I was in fact talking about commercial releases. I stand by what I said.

And if you went into Battlefield Earth with any kind of expectation the fault lies on you. An perhaps whatever nutcase you were listening to.

Well it's subjective anyways, same thing as deciding on the "best".

Anything with Tom Cruise, or based off of L. Ron Hubbards works.

Reason for no Tom Cruise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

I watched Sergeant Bilko a little while ago, that was pretty bloody awful.

Worst movie of all time is pretty hard to define though. Hollywood is very good at churning out shitty films.

Out of curiosity, what movie would you say is the worst?

I don't play the best/worst game.

I don't play the best/worst game.

All right, whats the most recent film you saw that made your stomach churn?

The best/worst thing is not a scientific consensus, it's just for fun. You gotta admit that some movies touch a nerve with many people, at least at the time. I do remember Battlefield Earth and how bad it was and I'll try to explain my reasoning. It was like a corny stupid thing that wasted a ton of money and was put out there prominently for everyone to see. Then to top it off, it was not even good material for spoofs. Just a bad memory of lame.

This was before I ever heard of Uwe Boll, I don't know if he made movies back then, and I don't care. At least this guy tends to stay in relative obscurity, mostly straight to DVD.

Mammoth. Seriously, it's worth seeing solely for being the most pathetically horrible movie that, at least I, have ever seen. It's truly an unintentional parody of c, sorry, k-movies everywhere.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487037/

All right, whats the most recent film you saw that made your stomach churn?

The last one I saw in theaters, and I'm still pressed to figure out why I went to a theater to see it in the first place or what I was expecting, that flustered me was Dragon Wars. Not only did the movie re-explain its premise five times in the first fifteen minutes (I started to count) it actually had a flashback in a flashback in a flashback in a flashback. And how do you have a movie based on Korean legends (made up or not) and directed by a Korean and still not have even a Korean supporting lead? At the end of the movie a 14 year old kid in the back stood up, threw is popcorn and yelled, "That sucked balls!" If a movie that's supposed to be about dragons fighting can't even captivate a fourteen year old, something is wrong. Perhaps the only kernel of possible interesting left on this plate of failure was the notion of self sacrifice, that the 'hero' is essentially swimming upstream and his noblest of efforts are actually drawing out the inevitable at best or making things worse was left to wither so that if you had any awareness of story you simply sat through the movie knowing it would happen and wondering why the character's don't or if you have none you'll feel that extra bit of jipped after not having your warring dragons delivered. Even as a Sci Fi Channel "Original" it would have fared only slightly higher than Mansquito, and even Mansquito might be better because at least it has a fun name to say. And this isn't 'not appreciating it for what it is,' I went there to see dragons. At war. If your story is going to suck at least have the decency to speed through it and get to the fighting. I couldn't tell you the plot to more than a handful of Godzilla movies but I can tell you how awesome the battles were. To paraphrase Tuco, if all you have is a fight, fight, don't bury crappy exposition in a swirling vortex of flashbacks...

And that's still not the worst movie ever or whatever nonsense. That's just the most recent ticket of regret and shame.

Bad movies are often awesome in their badness. The really bad ones are the ones that fail to deliver on any level, yet people feel obliged to take seriously.

Today I go with Magnolia. My opinion is subject to change.

Cabin Boy was pretty shitty.

Mammoth. Seriously, it's worth seeing solely for being the most pathetically horrible movie that, at least I, have ever seen. It's truly an unintentional parody of c, sorry, k-movies everywhere.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0487037/

Why pick on Mammoth? I mean, fair enough, it's a pretty awful film, but it's no worse than most other straight-to-TV movies that pop up constantly now that we all have a bajillion channels to choose from. I'm also unconvinced that it's an "unintentional" parody. Several parts of it seemed to me to have been written specifically to ensure that nobody took it seriously (the reanimated hand scene, for example).

As someone else commented, it's a bit too subjective to come up with a consensus, but I cannot accept that Mammoth should be considered to be the worst film of all time. Not in an industry that can spend more than $230m and come up with Waterworld. :tongue:

*snip*

To paraphrase Tuco...



Cool. :cool:

Well let's be more specific. It was implied to mean commercial movies from established studios. Basically, anything that gets released in your local movie theaters. Something some kid filmed on his cell phone to upload it to youtube would not apply. With that said, I can't think of any movie worse than Battlefield Earth. In my judgment I take into consideration abstract things like the hype that surrounded it or expectation.So Manos: The Hands of Fate is out then I suppose.

Off the top of my head, the more recent ones are Passion of the Christ, King Kong (the new one), and Twilight all were walk out of the theater bad, but I stayed anyhow because I'm a fucking masochist apparently. I know there are more, but I've obviously forgotten them for a reason.

Umm I would have to go throgh a long list of Adam Sandler films to pick the worst each one is just as shit as the other. How about I pick...

Or that new thing crappy film Australia orwhatever the film is called

Umm I would have to go throgh a long list of Adam Sandler films to pick the worst each one is just as shit as the other. How about I pick...

He's made some good films.

The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

I 100% agree.

He's made some good films.

Well he has made some decent films but the crap far outweigh the decent

The Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Totally agreed on that. Some of my friends kept being crazy about how good that was, and eventually persuaded me to watch it about a month ago.

It made no sense whatsoever, the songs weren't any good, the plot was so dumb I actually burst out laughing several times (not when the film was trying to be funny), and, to be quite honest, the whole thing was more than a little creepy. DO NOT WANT!

A dishonourable mention for The Perfect Storm too

I saw Top Gun again the other night. Not the worst film ever but it's one of my favourite terrible successful movies. It's particularly notable for its complete lack of subtext.

Tom Cruise is a pilot who doesn't play by the rules. Called Maverick.
"I don't like you Maverick, because you're dangerous"

I would rather sit through a 24 hour marathon of all your suggested films to avoid one screening (or would be my second actually) of this (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090068/).

Heck, as much as I hated "They Live (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/)" it still had some redemption with some pretty funny one liners. but this (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090068/)? was just plain crap. The studio should've paid me to think about watching it. this (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090068/) is sooo bad, I would prefer a 24 hour marathon of the Star Wars Holiday Special (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193524/)

Oh children children children.

You are not even trying! :)

I offer two:

Hercules in New York
It has the Governator in the lead role!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065832/

and

Hercules
With Lou "The Hulk" Ferrigno in a speaking role!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085672/

I tortured myself to sit through it hoping it would get better!


It didn't.

Oh children children children.

You are not even trying! :)

I offer two:

Hercules in New York
It has the Governator in the lead role!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065832/

and

Hercules
With Lou "The Hulk" Ferrigno in a speaking role!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085672/

I tortured myself to sit through it hoping it would get better!


It didn't.

saw those... they were bad... but not the worst.

The happening
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Happening_(2008_film))

there are very very very very little good things in that movie(some of the deaths were sort of interesting but after awhile it was like just kill the main characters already) and its never explains why the plants(which is a stupid stupid premise) decided to kill us now instead of say when we first landed in North America or what not.

its not even a very good apocalyptic movie because only northeasterns and french die both very annoying groups :p

heck its not even a very good clean up your act humanity or your going to hell in a handbasket movie

Heck, as much as I hated "They Live (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096256/)"

Die.

Die.

why?

the soundtrack was crappy!

The happening
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Happening_(2008_film))

there are very very very very little good things in that movie(some of the deaths were sort of interesting but after awhile it was like just kill the main characters already) and its never explains why the plants(which is a stupid stupid premise) decided to kill us now instead of say when we first landed in North America or what not. it's an Environmentalist movie. sure we clear cut alot of trees and plants, but now we're threating the world with pollution and global warming... so... :p

its not even a very good apocalyptic movie because only northeasterns and french die both very annoying groups :p

hence why in the movie, the 'experts' are waiting to see if it occures elsewhere, and you know after the French event, they will say "coincidence... we'll wait till it happens elsewhere."

why?

the soundtrack was crappy!

Any movie that is anti-Reganomics is excellent.

Any movie that is anti-Reganomics is excellent.

*shrugs* if that's how you define a good movie... :rolleyes:

My nominees:

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

Leonard, Part VI

The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension

Plan Nine From Outer Space

Bio-Dome

Mom and Dad Save the World

Dune

Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo

Howard the Duck

"Not Another Teen Movie". *barf*

Super suckage.

Star Wars Episode One: The Phantom Menace.

I say this film because of how long Lucas had to germinate the idea, the story, and everything else, and what did we get? The Force is an infection, a kid hitting on a teenager, ridiculous voice-acting stereotypes, a completely silly double-bladed light saber (leading to the culmination of silly in the daftly-named General Grievous wielding FOUR of the damn things), a kid with a mama's boy complex leading to Darth Vader, and Jar-Jar-fucking Binks.

My nominees:

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

Leonard, Part VI

The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension

Plan Nine From Outer Space

Bio-Dome

Mom and Dad Save the World

Dune

Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo

Howard the Duck

Bite your tongue! I...I don't even KNOW you anymore!

*runs off, sobbing*

:(

a completely silly double-bladed light saber

Die.

Also, episode one did have Liam Neeson. It wasnt all bad.

Star Wars Episode One: The Phantom Menace.

I say this film because of how long Lucas had to germinate the idea, the story, and everything else, and what did we get? The Force is an infection, a kid hitting on a teenager, ridiculous voice-acting stereotypes, a completely silly double-bladed light saber (leading to the culmination of silly in the daftly-named General Grievous wielding FOUR of the damn things), a kid with a mama's boy complex leading to Darth Vader, and Jar-Jar-fucking Binks.

let's not forget. A Jedi looking for someone to bring balance to the force... at a time when the Jedi have the upperhand! wouldn't balance be brought by removing the Jedi? :Headbang:

and a council of Force Adepts (Masters) don't know that a Padawan is married?!?

let's not forget. A Jedi looking for someone to bring balance to the force... at a time when the Jedi have the upperhand! wouldn't balance be brought by removing the Jedi? :Headbang:

and a council of Force Adepts (Masters) don't know that a Padawan is married?!?

I only had so much bandwidth.

Die.

Also, episode one did have Liam Neeson. It wasnt all bad.

Yes. Yes it was. Look, just because you're the Star Wars Kid doesn't mean the double-sabre was cool. It wasn't.

Liam Neeson did what he could to salvage some dignity for the franchise, but it simply wasn't enough. I like him as an actor, but he was overmatched by schlock and CGI.

I think we can all agree that Episode Two is by far the worst.

I think we can all agree that Episode Two is by far the worst.

It's the other side of the same terrible coin.

I think we can all agree that Episode Two is by far the worst.

I'lll just say the first three episodes were bad.
and the last three Director's editions also sucked.

Bite your tongue! I...I don't even KNOW you anymore!

*runs off, sobbing*

:(

I second this. Buckaroo Banzai may technically be bad, but only in that "this makes no discernible sense, and yet it is awesome" sort of way. :p

My nominees:

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

Does that one really count? It's a parody of B-movies.

Carry on Columbus made me cry.
Borat was unpleasant, but deserves "worst" status, because of the utterly brain dead fan base who kept quoting it and referring to Borat's asshole antics as "social satire."

I second this. Buckaroo Banzai may technically be bad, but only in that "this makes no discernible sense, and yet it is awesome" sort of way. :p

:eek:
*AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO UNDERSTOOD THAT MOVIE?!?*

I would say the worst one I have ever seen would be a three way tie between Boa vs. Anaconda, Mercenary for Justice, or this zombie movie that came with my Dawn of the dead pack. It had john leguizamo in it. So flipping terrible.

The Boy in the Striped Pyjama's- such a depressing film.

Star Wars Episode One: The Phantom Menace.

I say this film because of how long Lucas had to germinate the idea, the story, and everything else, and what did we get? The Force is an infection, a kid hitting on a teenager, ridiculous voice-acting stereotypes, a completely silly double-bladed light saber (leading to the culmination of silly in the daftly-named General Grievous wielding FOUR of the damn things), a kid with a mama's boy complex leading to Darth Vader, and Jar-Jar-fucking Binks.

I would've never saw Episode I if my mom haven't brought me tickets for it as a present back when it first came out. The only part I like was Darth Maul.

let's not forget. A Jedi looking for someone to bring balance to the force... at a time when the Jedi have the upperhand! wouldn't balance be brought by removing the Jedi? :Headbang:

and a council of Force Adepts (Masters) don't know that a Padawan is married?!?

Don't forget that we have a council of Jedi, who can apparently sense when a planet is destoryed, and yet, they can't tell when someone is planning to overthrow the fucking Republic with clones? Seriously?

I think we can all agree that Episode Two is by far the worst.

It's the other side of the same terrible coin.

Yea, I only liked III.

As for my nomination for worse movie, I'd have to pick, "You got mail"

Because let's be honest, the guy that starts an online romantic relationship with you isn't going to be...

http://www.celebrity9.com/img/tom-hanks/tom-hanks-1.jpg

It's going to be this guy.

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/110985.jpg

You know what, I'm going on record to say that all Romantic Comedies suck!

The Boy in the Striped Pyjama's- such a depressing film.

It looks unrealistic too. I mean comon, a Jewish kid and the kid who's father is in the SS, are not going to become friends. Also, if a kid have gotten that close to the fence, the guard would've shot him!

The Dark Night.

It looks unrealistic too. I mean comon, a Jewish kid and the kid who's father is in the SS, are not going to become friends. Also, if a kid have gotten that close to the fence, the guard would've shot him!

Yeah. Those were my thoughts. It's been Hollywood-itised!

Yeah. Those were my thoughts. It's been Hollywood-itised!

The movie should've only lasted 5 minutes at the most.

Jewish kid walk up to fence, guard sees kid, shoot kid with rifle, SS kid figures he deserves to die because that's what his daddy told him, end of movie.

The Dark Night.

I think you mean The Dark Knight? I thought it was decent- Keith Ledger plays the Joker amazingly.

You know what, I'm going on record to say that all Romantic Comedies suck!


FALSE!!!

PS I love you was fantastic. :wink:

The movie should've only lasted 5 minutes at the most.

Jewish kid walk up to fence, guard sees kid, shoot kid with rifle, SS kid figures he deserves to die because that's what his daddy told him, end of movie.

Now, that would be a film worth watching. :)

FALSE!!!

PS I love you was fantastic. :wink:

You must now surrender your testicles.

Now, that would be a film worth watching. :)

At least it'd be accurate without all the "feel good" crap.

FALSE!!!

PS I love you was fantastic. :wink:

Awww. I love you too. :p

Jewish kid walk up to fence, guard sees kid, shoot kid with rifle, SS kid figures he deserves to die because that's what his daddy told him, end of movie.

and the movie follows the boy as he grows up suffering the fate of watching his family killed over and over by the red army who's boots he now polishes

maybe paralleling post-war Germany but I haven't got off the phone to Hollywood yet

I think you mean The Dark Knight? I thought it was decent- Keith Ledger plays the Joker amazingly.

I just thought I'd put that out there

PS I love you was fantastic. :wink:

its got nothing on love me if you dare :$

You must now surrender your testicles.

A real man is one who is comfortable with watching a romantic comedy while having a dinner date with himself. SO :p

Awww. I love you too. :p

:fluffle:



its got nothing on love me if you dare :$

I have not seen that one. Perhaps I will watch it on my next self-date night. ;)

I have not seen that one. Perhaps I will watch it on my next self-date night. ;)

sounds like an excuse to eat expensive top shelf chocolate without being judged :p

can I come?

sounds like an excuse to eat expensive top shelf chocolate without being judged :p

can I come?

YAY!!! Mandate!

I hated Shaun of the Dead.

I'm sure its not objectively a bad film, but its like this. A group of friends I was living were debating what to get out on DVD. I wanted a romantic comedy. They head off to Blockbusters, and come back with this. I hate any films with gore in, and the film creeped me out.

I hated Shaun of the Dead.

I'm sure its not objectively a bad film, but its like this. A group of friends I was living were debating what to get out on DVD. I wanted a romantic comedy. They head off to Blockbusters, and come back with this. I hate any films with gore in, and the film creeped me out.

It's such a funny movie though!

Well let's be more specific. It was implied to mean commercial movies from established studios. Basically, anything that gets released in your local movie theaters. Something some kid filmed on his cell phone to upload it to youtube would not apply. With that said, I can't think of any movie worse than Battlefield Earth. In my judgment I take into consideration abstract things like the hype that surrounded it or expectation.
Based on those requirements: Hancock

It's such a funny movie though!

Eh, I'm pretty sure I'm not the target audience. For me it was bad, but as I say if you like zombie stuff I don't doubt it'd work well for you. Its a case of other people putting something in front of me I was bound not to like tbh

Based on those requirements: Hancock

You didn't enjoy the first 40 minutes?

It's such a funny movie though!

*trys to work out how Zilam's mind works* *shrugs*

I can't remember, I think I repressed that memory...although "Date Movie" is somewhere up there.

Oh God. I forgot to mention Epic Movie. There's no words for how bad that film is.

A real man is one who is comfortable with watching a romantic comedy while having a dinner date with himself. SO :p


This statement contradict itself.

I will also add to this list any comedy not written by Jews.

You can tell because theyre usually the not funny ones.

The Village...and damn near anything done by M. Night. Shyamalan...Why would I want to sit through 2 hours of movie just to find out the whole thing was pointless...

I would also like to nominate horror films that base their entire plot around gore, like Saw. You can have a scary movie with out having to gore it all the way up. Even a little gore is okay. But so much is just a turn off, as far as films are concerned.

I would also like to nominate horror films that base their entire plot around gore, like Saw. You can have a scary movie with out having to gore it all the way up. Even a little gore is okay. But so much is just a turn off, as far as films are concerned.

I find the Saw movies entertaining enough.

I'm 26 and have only recently seen The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Its terribly trashy, and I laughed my ass off. So, of course I liked it... Yeah you could guess.

As for worst movie- Repo: A Genetic Opera. I didn't even bother to watch it.

Scratch that how about Newsies as the worst.

Amadeus. One cannot take a terrible film, then use the music that (arguably) the greatest composer in the world wrote for a score, then say the film is magnificent.

The Patriot

The Patriot

Yes, both.

Star Wars Episode One: The Phantom Menace.

I say this film because of how long Lucas had to germinate the idea, the story, and everything else, and what did we get? The Force is an infection, a kid hitting on a teenager, ridiculous voice-acting stereotypes, a completely silly double-bladed light saber (leading to the culmination of silly in the daftly-named General Grievous wielding FOUR of the damn things), a kid with a mama's boy complex leading to Darth Vader, and Jar-Jar-fucking Binks.

I didn't see a problem with that. It was basically a staff, and the lightsaber battle on Naboo is generally considered to be one of the best in the series.

A real man is one who is comfortable with watching a romantic comedy while having a dinner date with himself. SO :p

Are you sure you want to admit that you watch Romantic Movies while masturbating?

I would also like to nominate horror films that base their entire plot around gore, like Saw. You can have a scary movie with out having to gore it all the way up. Even a little gore is okay. But so much is just a turn off, as far as films are concerned.

Have you ever seen a SAW film? the gore is one aspect of the SAW film. There is a plot in the SAW films people!

I would also like to add Soul Plane to this list.

Stupid Waynes Brothers....have no concept of aviation....:mad:

D.W. Griffith's The Birth of A Nation (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0004972/) (aka "The Clansman"). "Influential" or not, it is racist tripe.

D.W. Griffith's The Birth of A Nation (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0004972/) (aka "The Clansman"). "Influential" or not, it is racist tripe.

Well...it does have a Klansman in it, so....you gotta figure yea, it would be a racist tripe...

Well...it does have a Klansman in it, so....you gotta figure yea, it would be a racist tripe...

Actually, I believe it explicitly glorifies the Klan. That's why its racist, not merely that it has a Klansman in it.

Are you sure you want to admit that you watch Romantic Movies while masturbating? I don't recall saying that I masturbate and watch romantic movies.

Besides, even if I did, it would be a lot better than masturbating while posting on NSG. Isn't that right, willy?



Have you ever seen a SAW film? the gore is one aspect of the SAW film. There is a plot in the SAW films people!

Yes, and the plot is terrible. I saw I, and III. I wanted to plunger out my brain through my ears after that third one.

I don't recall saying that I masturbate and watch romantic movies.

Besides, even if I did, it would be a lot better than masturbating while posting on NSG. Isn't that right, willy?

Well what can I say, it's like a bath house here, with such beautiful and handsome people. Except for this one ugly Christian due, he goes by Zilam, have you....

Oh....

Well....at least you know....

I know the name of two good reconstruction doctors....

Yes, and the plot is terrible. I saw I, and III. I wanted to plunger out my brain through my ears after that third one.

I personally thought III was the second best in the series, behind I.

Well what can I say, it's like a bath house here, with such beautiful and handsome people. Except for this one ugly Christian due, he goes by Zilam, have you....

Oh....

Well....at least you know....

I know the name of two good reconstruction doctors....


I am just going to smile and walk away from this one.

Top candidates for worst film of all time...

Any film directed by Uwe Boll

Any film starring Shaquille O'Neal

/thread

You didn't enjoy the first 40 minutes?
That just makes it worse.

has anyone mentioned Howard the Duck?

Actually, I believe it explicitly glorifies the Klan. That's why its racist, not merely that it has a Klansman in it.

It does. The Klan is seen as the heroes, while the abolitionists and the slaves are seen as the destructive force that almost tore apart the country.

The depiction of the jack booted "black rulers" in the South post-Civil War is especially "hilarious".

You saw every Saw?? I only saw Saw, I didn't see Saw 2 and after. (I just wanted to say that).
It was predictable after the 1st (I saw parts of the rest, if that makes sense).