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on tv, things always work out, people are better looking, everyones smarter, the wrong person learns their lessons, and, the status quo is always mantained?

I don't know what you mean, that's how my life is, must be you.

on tv, things always work out, people are better looking, everyones smarter, the wrong person learns their lessons, and, the status quo is always mantained?

It's made up.

It's made up.

You mean, it's not an accurate portrayal of life?!? :eek:

This is as bad as when I found out Santa was one of my parents in a red hat.

Because shows about ugly failures who continually get fucked over by bastards who always get away with it because the homely bastards never learn doesn't move product.

You mean, it's not an accurate portrayal of life?!? :eek:

This is as bad as when I found out Santa was one of my parents in a red hat.

Well, it is of my life. But I'm an exception, you know?

Because shows about ugly failures who continually get fucked over by bastards who always get away with it because the homely bastards never learn doesn't move product.

Big Brother is doing quite well...

Well, it is of my life. But I'm an exception, you know?

You mean, you always have time for a terrible one-liner before karate-kicking some badguy? Damn, I am missing out.

They're all Jewish (especially the black actors) so they get it easy.

You mean, you always have time for a terrible one-liner before karate-kicking some badguy? Damn, I am missing out.

I'm just cool that way, I guess. ;)

Big Brother is doing quite well...

Ba-Zing!

on tv, things always work out, people are better looking, everyones smarter, the wrong person learns their lessons, and, the status quo is always mantained?

i don't see why there should be any mystery about this. the purpose of propiganda is propiganda. who controls television? corporate economic intrests. what cultural values most bennifit the desire of little green pieces of paper to rub sholders with more little green pieces of paper?

there you go. this is why i don't invest in cable, and hardly ever turn the damd thing on at all. why in the hell should i want to pay to be brainwashed into perpetuating the very priorities that destroy everything i see as being worth a dam.

we do, thank big friendly and invisible, and the indominably limitless diversity of the real univers, most of us anyway, have the ability to turn the damd things off. or just not turn them on.

and i mean, now that we have this internet, why ever turn on one way brainwashing media at all?

the whole thing about this net we now have, is that WE can create and contribute and shaire OUR OWN content. we don't have to just choose who ELSE'S bullshisen to watch and listen to. we can inflict the universe, each of us, with our very own.

which i happen to think is absolutely cool.

because in all the unpollishedness of our diversity, there is infinitely more creative diversity and real gratification, real redeaming value, whatever there ever is of any such thing anyway, in what WE share with each other over this net, then anything corporate media ever COULD come up with, if it wanted to.

The answer is simple: life sucks. Always has. Always will. Life will always make your failures disasterous and your victories phyrric.

So television likes to show us places where life doesn't suck. If it showed only the truth, then we might as well not watch television at all because whatever television showed you would be exactly what you went through. You'd know all the plots and outcomes. It would become pointless because the appeal of new episodes is that you DON'T know what's going to happen from the start.

on tv, things always work out, people are better looking, everyones smarter, the wrong person learns their lessons, and, the status quo is always mantained?

because you touch yourself at night, among other things

And this is why dark programs or movies are better. I can't even watch the stuff OP mentions. Who watches this stuff nowadays? The only serious shows I watch are like crime dramas where people get horribly murdered then some detectives with fucked up lives have to catch the killer. Would you want to be any of those characters? Well maybe, some would, but not everyone.

no, life does NOT inherently "suck". television brainwashes us into denying how WE, together, MAKE it "suck" for each other.

no, life does NOT inherently "suck". television brainwashes us into denying how WE, together, MAKE it "suck" for each other.

Life sucks because everyone makes it suck. It only takes one to make it suck and everyone's making it suck. Life sucks, which is why tv and video games are so popular. They offer a chance to temporarily live in better worlds. Worlds where they can succeed. Worlds where they can live their dreams without their dreams killing them. A chance to live a life that doesn't suck.

And is that such a bad idea? After all, isn't that why we go on vacations? To escape our mounting pressures so we can recoup and take on those challenges recharged? To know that if you become too tired out by life, that you can escape until you're strong enough to take on life once more? To retreat when you're too weak to fight and to fight when you stand a chance is what makes the Zeplands great.

But I digress. Maybe life doesn't suck. Maybe our attempts to escape a bad life are for naught because life isn't bad. Maybe we should discard our fiction before our fiction ruins life for us. Maybe it's better to stop running, to stop sleeping, and to face life's obstacles in a fight to the death.

Who knows? Anpu knows, but he's not talking. He's stopping the unstoppable and moving the unmoveable. He's shooting unstoppable forces at unmoveable objects. Fyi, the forces just go straight through the objects.

on tv, things always work out, people are better looking, everyones smarter, the wrong person learns their lessons, and, the status quo is always mantained?
Obviously you do not watch BSG.

because you touch yourself at night, among other things

So if I refine hose periods of time to day-light hours it's all good, and I get to see British television with ugly people as far as the eye can see?

on tv, things always work out, people are better looking, everyones smarter, the wrong person learns their lessons, and, the status quo is always mantained?

Because it's in the script.

Because shows about ugly failures who continually get fucked over by bastards who always get away with it because the homely bastards never learn doesn't move product.

Says you, Deep Space Nine was awesome, lol....

Says you, Deep Space Nine was awesome, lol....

Voyager was better.

Voyager was better.

Hate to break it to you, but Voyager sucked. It didn't fit the dark depressing TV steriotype. And it didn't fit the TV steriotype described in the OP (except for the status quo bit thanks to lack of continuity and reset buttons). It just... sucked. Its even worse when you consider that it had the potential to be a really great show, and that potential even really shone through in some episodes.

Hate to break it to you, but Voyager sucked. It didn't fit the dark depressing TV steriotype. And it didn't fit the TV steriotype described in the OP (except for the status quo bit thanks to lack of continuity and reset buttons). It just... sucked. Its even worse when you consider that it had the potential to be a really great show, and that potential even really shone through in some episodes.

No way, it was great. If it wasn't dark, was it light hearted? The ending was weak, but oh well, it was the best star trek, imo. I predict the new movie coming out will flop at warp 5.

Now I wind up my propeller beanie, Vulcan hand greeting, live long and prosper. Away!!!

on tv, things always work out, people are better looking, everyones smarter, the wrong person learns their lessons, and, the status quo is always mantained?

Because TV's purpose is to make us forget our shitty lives where things don't work out for us, where we have idiots, and more often than not, bad people get away with millions of dollars.

Luckily the status quo seems to be intact.

i don't see why there should be any mystery about this. the purpose of propiganda is propiganda. who controls television? corporate economic intrests. what cultural values most bennifit the desire of little green pieces of paper to rub sholders with more little green pieces of paper?

there you go. this is why i don't invest in cable, and hardly ever turn the damd thing on at all. why in the hell should i want to pay to be brainwashed into perpetuating the very priorities that destroy everything i see as being worth a dam.

we do, thank big friendly and invisible, and the indominably limitless diversity of the real univers, most of us anyway, have the ability to turn the damd things off. or just not turn them on.

and i mean, now that we have this internet, why ever turn on one way brainwashing media at all?

the whole thing about this net we now have, is that WE can create and contribute and shaire OUR OWN content. we don't have to just choose who ELSE'S bullshisen to watch and listen to. we can inflict the universe, each of us, with our very own.

which i happen to think is absolutely cool.

because in all the unpollishedness of our diversity, there is infinitely more creative diversity and real gratification, real redeaming value, whatever there ever is of any such thing anyway, in what WE share with each other over this net, then anything corporate media ever COULD come up with, if it wanted to.

this sounds fine in theory, but if you notice about 90% of internets is porn, so really might not be such a great thing. That and Internet connections are fucking fussy to set up (such as broadband, or if you're really unlucky BT broadband).
Actually if you look at the larger sites for long enough you can see adverts probably more than TV, now i'm not saying TV is a shining knight in armour because alot of it isn't, and to be honest TV's can be switched off, it's not like we're living in Orwell's nightmare, or if we are it doesn't appear to be a nightmare.
Then there's the identity fraud that occurs far more easily over internets, people stealing other's credit card details or harrassing them.
Whereas on the TV side of things there are a couple of worthwile shows or things to see;
I mean take a look at some Comedy performances, apollo, have i got news for you, never mind the buzzcocks on occaison, and there are some really interesting BBC documentries, and some random old western films are funny to watch.

Because shows about ugly failures who continually get fucked over by bastards who always get away with it because the homely bastards never learn doesn't move product.

Seinfeld?