NationStates Jolt Archive

I'm voting yes. After all, it's a multi-billion dollar industry that employs thousands of people, and think of all the mom and pop video stores that need help, and all of those guys fapping away around the country who will be left with nothing to fap to...

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/01/07/2009-01-07_porn_kings_larry_flint_and_joe_francis_g.html

Is the porn industry up next for a bailout? If porn titans Joe Francis and Larry Flynt have anything to do with it, it will.

Yes, ladies and gentleman, the titans of pornography are begging for a bailout.

Joe Francis, creator of the “Girl’s Gone Wild” video series, and Larry Flynt, founder of Hustler, will ask Congress for a $5 billion bailout, according to TMZ.

Why does the porn industry need a bailout? Because apparently even porn is getting smacked by the recession.

XXX DVD sales have taken a hit - about a 22% hit, according the TMZ.

“With all this economic misery and people losing all that money, sex is the farthest thing from their mind,” Flynt is quoted as saying on TMZ. “It’s time for Congress to rejuvenate the sexual appetite of America.”

Francis thinks that the porn industry deserves a bailout just like the auto and financial industries got, and he said he’ll go to DC to get it, according to TMZ.

I'm not worried. I think the internet will always provide as much porn as we could possibly need.

Sure, why not? As long as we're not paying for it.

What a waste of council tax.

I'm not worried. I think the internet will always provide as much porn as we could possibly need.

But will the people on the internet feel the need to put it there?

Well, if I did support a porn bailout, would that make me Heinrich Himmler?

I'm not worried. I think the internet will always provide as much porn as we could possibly need.

Most of that is ripped from commercial sources.

If we're going to bail out newspapers (who provide a lot of information for bloggers), then we can't just count on the Internet - we'll need to bail out the porn industry.

That's the difference between you 'merkins and us Brits. Due to the recession we're all turning towards sex as a cheap way to entertain ourselves..

Well, some of us are anyway..

But will the people on the internet feel the need to put it there?

Amateurs are always putting stuff up on the internet. Sure, it's never lit quite as well and the camera angles might be sub-standard, but the action is still the same.

And, speaking personally, some of those amateur films are pretty good.

I heard about this.

Amateurs are always putting stuff up on the internet. Sure, it's never lit quite as well and the camera angles might be sub-standard, but the action is still the same.

And, speaking personally, some of those amateur films are pretty good.

I'm honestly glad you made a point against my argument. I don't want the porn to dry up. And I agree about the amateurs.

dry up.

Must ... resist ... bad ... joke. Argh.

Must ... resist ... bad ... joke. Argh.

Sometimes it's hard. You just have the let the jokes slide.

Must ... resist ... bad ... joke. Argh.

Oooooops...

Oh, this just came on CNN.

Sometimes it's hard. You just have the let the jokes slide.

These puns suck :(

We need more porn!

These puns suck :(

I kinda agree with you, though I really hope there's no Kirby porn! That pink puff sucks and blows.

I have done my part to support the porn industry. *nod*

We need more porn!



I kinda agree with you, though I really hope there's no Kirby porn! That pink puff sucks and blows.

I'm already seasick, don't push me...

These puns suck :(

I'm sorry that I've left you unsatisfied. I will attempt to work harder in the future.

I have done my part to support the porn industry. *nod*

And that would be?


P.S.: We ALL have dirty minds!

Well if porno does go under, there's always room at my place for a starlet or five.

I'm already seasick, don't push me...

You're a Marine trapped in a ship full of semen...

Well if porno does go under, there's always room at my place for a starlet or five.

Nationalize the porn industry?

You're a Marine trapped in a ship full of semen...

*Baaaaaaarfff**blaaaarrrrrcchchh*

Thank you. Thank you for that.

We better bail them out, or they'll be fucked. Except... it won't be filmed.

*Baaaaaaarfff**blaaaarrrrrcchchh*

Thank you. Thank you for that.

It's not like you like the squids anyway...

I really hope there's no Kirby porn! That pink puff sucks and blows.

Rule 34

The will probably fluff this opportunity.

Rule 34

GAH! I HATE Rule 34!

Is this story serious? o.o

I'm voting yes. After all, it's a multi-billion dollar industry that employs thousands of people, and think of all the mom and pop video stores that need help, and all of those guys fapping away around the country who will be left with nothing to fap to...

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/01/07/2009-01-07_porn_kings_larry_flint_and_joe_francis_g.html
I'm pretty sure we can easily think of other things to fap to. :p

Funny thing is, that a google image search for kirby porn doesn't yield actual kirby porn on the first 3 pages (dared not to look further), but it DOES yield a kirby Hitler.

Funny thing is, that a google image search for kirby porn doesn't yield actual kirby porn on the first 3 pages (dared not to look further), but it DOES yield a kirby Hitler.

Your safesearch is still on, FYI.

Funny thing is, that a google image search for kirby porn doesn't yield actual kirby porn on the first 3 pages (dared not to look further), but it DOES yield a kirby Hitler.

Do you has Safe search on or off?

Nationalize the porn industry?

Not what I had in mind. Although it would be entertaining applying for government positions.

"What qualifications do you have that could be an asset?"

"Well I am 34DD!"

Funny thing is, that a google image search for kirby porn doesn't yield actual kirby porn on the first 3 pages (dared not to look further), but it DOES yield a kirby Hitler.

Use yahoo.

Funny thing is, that a google image search for kirby porn doesn't yield actual kirby porn on the first 3 pages (dared not to look further), but it DOES yield a kirby Hitler.

I just realized that we've already fufilled Godwin's law...

Your safesearch is still on, FYI.

Ah, and I was starting to regain faith in humanity...

I just realized that we've already fufilled Godwin's law...

Oh expletive!

Well, let's hope the porn stars are ready to work it hard and rough for that bailout money! They really gotta get down and dirty! They gotta work the shaft, and I mean REALLY work it! It won't be easy, they'll have to punch in their time clock like everyone else.

Thank you, I'll be here all week! :D

Ah, and I was starting to regain faith in humanity...

Rule 34.

Nope. Its not essential to the US economy.

Nope. Its not essential to the US economy.

*gasp* BLASPHEMER!

In the words of Dr. Cox "I firmly believe that if they took all the porn off the internet, there be only one website left, and that website would be "Bring back the porn."

*gasp* BLASPHEMER!

In the words of Dr. Cox "I firmly believe that if they took all the porn off the internet, there be only one website left, and that website would be "Bring back the porn."

We need to legislate a new internet law about scrubs references. You know you can get porn for that, too?

And that would be?


P.S.: We ALL have dirty minds!

Well, I was young and needed money...

*gasp* BLASPHEMER!

In the words of Dr. Cox "I firmly believe that if they took all the porn off the internet, there be only one website left, and that website would be "Bring back the porn."

lol! I remember one episode of Robot Chicken where a computer virus deleted ALL porn on hard drives and on the internet, and Bush did a Press onfrence to GET the porn BACK!

lol! I remember one episode of Robot Chicken where a computer virus deleted ALL porn on hard drives and on the internet, and Bush did a Press onfrence to GET the porn BACK!

Public nudity and photography day?

Public nudity and photography day?

I don't remember. I can't find the vid of it at all.

Sure, why the hell not. Everyone else is asking for cash. Anyone spare a billion or so for me?

*gasp* BLASPHEMER!

In the words of Dr. Cox "I firmly believe that if they took all the porn off the internet, there be only one website left, and that website would be "Bring back the porn."

Not only is it not essential for our economy, you could *possibly* make a big stretch and say it is bad for the economy. Here is my feeble attempt to justify this;

Porn causes addiction in many people. This addiction often times leads to people being divorced. Now, instead of two incomes coming into a house hold to sustain a middle class lifestyle, which is essential to a healthy economy, you have two house holds, who, for a time,have one income coming in to each. How about a single mother who tries to raise her kids with limited child support? She won't be able to buy as much, and the economy would suffer, if those type of cases on a large scale. I would say that divorce is bad for the economy, and pornography is a catalyst for divorce, as well as other problems.

Again,that's a very grand leap there. :p

Sure, why the hell not. Everyone else is asking for cash. Anyone spare a billion or so for me?

The money isn't real. It's just there to give the industry(or someone?) confidence. You try and cash a billion dollar check.

Not only is it not essential for our economy, you could *possibly* make a big stretch and say it is bad for the economy. Here is my feeble attempt to justify this;

Porn causes addiction in many people. This addiction often times leads to people being divorced. Now, instead of two incomes coming into a house hold to sustain a middle class lifestyle, which is essential to a healthy economy, you have two house holds, who, for a time,have one income coming in to each. How about a single mother who tries to raise her kids with limited child support? She won't be able to buy as much, and the economy would suffer, if those type of cases on a large scale. I would say that divorce is bad for the economy, and pornography is a catalyst for divorce, as well as other problems.

Again,that's a very grand leap there. :p

Another grand leap: Porn will cause a social break down.

Porn made the US great! Do middle eastern countries have porn? NO! They'd kill off all the porn starlets, so that there'd only be guys, and then they would kill off the guys.

The money isn't real. It's just there to give the industry(or someone?) confidence. You try and cash a billion dollar check.

Nah, wouldn't cash it, just deposit it in my account and make my banker have a stroke. Mostly for comedy value.

Porn made the US great! Do middle eastern countries have porn? NO! They'd kill off all the porn starlets, so that there'd only be guys, and then they would kill off the guys.

There's Egyptian porn, but you have to look hard.

Nationalize the porn industry?

I'd like to see Bristol Palin in one.

Porn made the US great! Do middle eastern countries have porn? NO! They'd kill off all the porn starlets, so that there'd only be guys, and then they would kill off the guys.

Actually Middle Eastern countries do have porn. How do I know? Personal experience. Most of the stuff they have is amateur though. Lebanese, Egyptian, Algerian, Turkish, and even some Saudi.

I am sure you can find porn everywhere, if you look hard enough.

And I would hardly say that porn made any nation great. I think it hinders nations from being much more great! Imagine if all our young people spent their time studying, instead of watching porn. We'd be able to sail the universe by now!!

Actually Middle Eastern countries do have porn. How do I know? Personal experience. Most of the stuff they have is amateur though. Lebanese, Egyptian, Algerian, Turkish, and even some Saudi.

I am sure you can find porn everywhere, if you look hard enough.

And I would hardly say that porn made any nation great. I think it hinders nations from being much more great! Imagine if all our young people spent their time studying, instead of watching porn. We'd be able to sail the universe by now!!

Oh please, porn isn't that big of a distraction.

hard enough.

Yes. Yes it is.

And I'm sure a Bristol Palin video will surface someday...

Well, if I did support a porn bailout, would that make me Heinrich Himmler?

Only if you also wear glasses.

Oh please, porn isn't that big of a distraction.

I don't know about that. I might have gone to college if it weren't for porn.

Imagine if all our young people spent their time studying, instead of watching porn. We'd be able to sail the universe by now!!

Tell me more of this mystical fantasy world of yours.

Just to offer my two cents, DOES ANYONE PAY FOR PORN? I mean, most of us get it for free. So, I don't know how that will help.

And I would hardly say that porn made any nation great. I think it hinders nations from being much more great! Imagine if all our young people spent their time studying, instead of watching porn. We'd be able to sail the universe by now!!

. . . . riiiiight.

Yes. Yes it is.

And I'm sure a Bristol Palin video will surface someday...

I'd actually want to see a Sarah Palin porn.

Personally no industry in the States deserves a bailout. Not car industry, not banking, not porn industry. Let them keel over. Capitalism has come to the end of its highway. At least let it die a dignified death instead of putting it on lifesupport.

I'd actually want to see a Sarah Palin porn.

Didn't know you were into bestiality.

I'd actually want to see a Sarah Palin porn.

She's an uber-gilf!

I'd actually want to see a Sarah Palin porn.

Look it up on Encyclopedia Dramatica. *barfs some moar*

My friends NEVER paid for porn. They all stole it from my dad.

She's an uber-gilf!

She may suck as a politician, but I'm sure there are things she's good at sucking at. ;)

Look it up on Encyclopedia Dramatica. *barfs some moar*

My friend NEVER paid for porn. They all stole it from my dad.

I just get mine from free websites.

Didn't know you were into bestiality.

I'd knock up Argentina's president Cristina Kirchner. She is HOT.

she may suck as a politician, but i'm sure there are things she's good at sucking at. ;)


lmfao!

Araraukar, I feel as though I must agree (re: post 65), but the robber barons of industry will try to take everyone down with them and continue their corrupt activities anyway they can while they pick up the pieces to try to assemble at least a silver parachute with which to escape from their crimes. If anyone should be bailed out, it should be those who have fallen between the cracks and that will truly get the shaft, not these industrial titans. In fact, I would have told the porn bosses, along with the auto giants, to go F*** themselves and exit the Capitol building, before I get half mind to personally kick their arses out the door. I am concerned though that with the ol' cowboy out of office that Tweed II will continue the, oft times foolish, bailouts, with no strings- such as firing the bosses- attached.

Oh please, porn isn't that big of a distraction.

You'd be surprised. How many hours a week would you say that the average young male spends looking at or watching pornography, via the net or on dvds? Let's say about 6 hours a week, or one hour a day, allowing a day of rest on Sundays. I have some classes which meet three times a week, for an hour each. That's only 3 hours a week, which means that porn would take up more of my time than that one class. What if I, or some theoretical person stopped watching those 6 hours of porn and invested those 6 extra hours into studying? Helping out at a community center? Or something else productive? Let's go a step further, what if we cut other areas of self-fulfillment, like video games, or using forums?? I think if everyone that was addicted to any of those mediums were to switch their habits, you'd see a more productive society.

I don't know about that. I might have gone to college if it weren't for porn. You could have majored in Film, and minored in anatomy... :p

Tell me more of this mystical fantasy world of yours. We have cookies and unicorns here.

. . . . riiiiight.
....leeeeeeeeeeeft? ....wroooooong?

:p

I'd knock up Argentina's president Cristina Kirchner. She is HOT.

Shwing.

Community Center vs. Watching Porn? Thats what I thought.

You'd be surprised. How many hours a week would you say that the average young male spends looking at or watching pornography, via the net or on dvds? Let's say about 6 hours a week, or one hour a day, allowing a day of rest on Sundays. I have some classes which meet three times a week, for an hour each. That's only 3 hours a week, which means that porn would take up more of my time than that one class. What if I, or some theoretical person stopped watching those 6 hours of porn and invested those 6 extra hours into studying? Helping out at a community center? Or something else productive? Let's go a step further, what if we cut other areas of self-fulfillment, like video games, or using forums?? I think if everyone that was addicted to any of those mediums were to switch their habits, you'd see a more productive society.

Porn kick-started human civilisation. Some caveman jacking off to animals doing it made the link between sex and babies, which lead to agriculture, and so on.

Let's say about 6 hours a week, or one hour a day, allowing a day of rest on Sundays

More like....2 hours a week. Tops.

And whats this day of rest? I watch most of my porn on Sundays.

Porn kick-started human civilisation. Some caveman jacking off to animals doing it made the link between sex and babies, which lead to agriculture, and so on.

Origin of Doggy Style by Charles Darwin.

Porn kick-started human civilisation. Some caveman jacking off to animals doing it made the link between sex and babies, which lead to agriculture, and so on.

Wh-What?! So that's where the rednecks get it.

BREATH, thread, I said breath! I won't let you die!

Let the thread die like the After 2012 thread.

Let's go a step further, what if we cut other areas of self-fulfillment, like video games, or using forums?? I think if everyone that was addicted to any of those mediums were to switch their habits, you'd see a more productive society.

Or a society that took the Jones town route because all the fun has been sucked out of life.

Let the thread die like the After 2012 thread.

I only wanted to succeed in somehow sidetracking a thread about porn...

I only wanted to succeed in somehow sidetracking a thread about porn...

The porn is far more powerful in the Force for you to do that.

No. I'm just about persuaded porn should be legal, but state-funded or supported? Hell no. Its not as if its something society can't live without.

The porn is far more powerful in the Force for you to do that.

How powerful? ;)

No. I'm just about persuaded porn should be legal, but state-funded or supported? Hell no. Its not as if its something society can't live without.

You'd be surprised.

How powerful? ;)

Far more powerful then any Jedi or Sith ever alive or that will ever be alive!

Whats next, senate gone wild?

Far more powerful then any Jedi or Sith ever alive or that will ever be alive!

What about non-affiliated force-users?

Let's go a step further, what if we cut other areas of self-fulfillment, like video games, or using forums?? I think if everyone that was addicted to any of those mediums were to switch their habits, you'd see a more productive society.

Cutting religion out of our lives would make our societies far, far more productive (and advanced) as well, but I dont see you advocating for that.

What about non-affiliated force-users?

Even more powerful!

Cutting religion out of our lives would make our societies far, far more productive (and advanced) as well, but I dont see you advocating for that.

Actually it's too little, too late for that. The time to cut religion out of Society would've been right before the Dark Ages. I believe the Dark Ages is the period when religion held society back the most.

Looks like we've succeeded in changing the subject. :)

No, if only because some of the money would apparently go to "Girls Gone Wild," which is quite possibly the stupidest franchise in the history of the universe. :p

lol double post!

No, if only because some of the money would apparently go to "Girls Gone Wild," which is quite possibly the stupidest franchise in the history of the universe. :p
I've only vaguely heard of "Girls Gone Wild" but how is it the "stupidest franchise in the history of the universe"?

Not that I necessarily agree with the bailout... my initial thought was that if they gave one to the auto industry they should give one to the pornography industry, but then again you don't fix a mistake by causing another. (Not saying the auto bailout was a mistake... nor that it wasn't)

It should depend on how well reasons for one apply to the other, and if such jobs in that industry are necessary to keep there. If it's something quite unlike the auto bailout and if they have reason to believe that most of the people employed in the porn industry could find jobs elsewhere, it might be an idea to tell Joe Francis and Larry Flint to go **** themselves. :p

I've only vaguely heard of "Girls Gone Wild" but how is it the "stupidest franchise in the history of the universe"?


It manages to take sexist stupidity to a new depth even for porn, it irritates the crap out of me by advertising all over late night cable, and it's not even remotely good porn. Basically, the point of the franchise is, "We get pathetic attention whore teenagers to show their tits to the camera! Then we get MORE pathetic attention whore teenagers to show their tits to the camera! But just wait - in the next hour, we'll get pathetic attention whore teenagers to show their tits to the camera, followed by pathetic attention whore teenagers showing their tits to the camera! Oh yeah!" :p

$5 Billion? They have some chutzpah.

Honestly, Larry, commercial porn has been in decline ever since the internet boom. People aren't going to waste money on porn when they can get it for free, and to be quite honest I really don't see any justification for the kind of money a lot of these companies are charging anyways. It's not like you're getting anything more for your money, except maybe more fake tits, fake lesbians, fake penises and fake orgasms, so what's the draw?

Not only is it not essential for our economy, you could *possibly* make a big stretch and say it is bad for the economy. Here is my feeble attempt to justify this;

Porn causes addiction in many people. This addiction often times leads to people being divorced. Now, instead of two incomes coming into a house hold to sustain a middle class lifestyle, which is essential to a healthy economy, you have two house holds, who, for a time,have one income coming in to each. How about a single mother who tries to raise her kids with limited child support? She won't be able to buy as much, and the economy would suffer, if those type of cases on a large scale. I would say that divorce is bad for the economy, and pornography is a catalyst for divorce, as well as other problems.

Again,that's a very grand leap there. :p

You caused a fail in the first sentence. Porn addiction is so little comparatively that the 99.99% of porn consumers make up for all that "American Dream" going to shit bullshit you listed.

Anyway. Srsly. Porn. C'mon. C'mmmmooonnnn.

People will continue to f*ck and make porn no matter what the economic situation. I really don't think the porn industry is at risk. The biggest problem for the porn industry is over-saturation of porn and the sheer amount of free porn which is available online.

People will continue to f*ck and make porn no matter what the economic situation. I really don't think the porn industry is at risk. The biggest problem for the porn industry is over-saturation of porn and the sheer amount of free porn which is available online.

You could say the same about the entertainment industry.

You could say the same about the entertainment industry.

Well, there you go. Let the companies that can't compete fail, and then the market will naturally adjust to the optimal number of firms. Unlike movies or books, for example, people aren't paying for porn because of the quality of the production or the artistic merit, they're paying to see people have sex. Now, it's true the quality of the sex itself is important, but by and large amateur sites and small companies are starting to take the lead and are able to do it for less money.

Say what you want about public tastes, but by and large the truth is some of the best movies ever made were also the highest grossing, especially in recent years. I do not believe for a second that entertainment automatically reverts to the lowest common denominator, especially not now with the internet and social networking sites allowing people to discuss films and find people with similar interests as well as building up enthusiasm for new productions through viral marketing and other measures. I think people forget that 50% of the population has an IQ greater than 98...

You could say the same about the entertainment industry.

Thats true but I really doubt the entertainment industry is in any real trouble either. At least no trouble that we should care about... The Great Depression was a great time for the entertainment industry because although people couldn't afford to feed and clothe themselves they could at least escape their problems for an hour or two at the movie theater.

Thats true but I really doubt the entertainment industry is in any real trouble either. At least no trouble that we should care about... The Great Depression was a great time for the entertainment industry because although people couldn't afford to feed and clothe themselves they could at least escape their problems for an hour or two at the movie theater.

Plus, it's pretty inexpensive to watch movies. The theaters are pretty damn expensive, but you can rent them or buy them for a pretty low sum of money (or pirate them for free, but I can't say I condone that because I think good films deserve the money I pay for them).

Honestly box office ticket sales probably will go down a bit but IMHO it will be one of the least effected sectors of the economy. Piracy is still a bigger threat to the movie industry than the economic downturn... Even if the economy in the USA totally crashed there would still be a film industry, just look at india - they make tones of films and the average wage is around 5 dollars a day!

It manages to take sexist stupidity to a new depth even for porn, it irritates the crap out of me by advertising all over late night cable, and it's not even remotely good porn. Basically, the point of the franchise is, "We get pathetic attention whore teenagers to show their tits to the camera! Then we get MORE pathetic attention whore teenagers to show their tits to the camera! But just wait - in the next hour, we'll get pathetic attention whore teenagers to show their tits to the camera, followed by pathetic attention whore teenagers showing their tits to the camera! Oh yeah!" :p
Well, I guess that kind of stuff would get repetitive after a while, though there's probably dumber franchises both within porn and outside of it. Is it necessarily worse than people whose jobs are in making that kind of stuff losing their jobs though? Not that I know enough about the bailout to know if not getting one would cause that, though...

Yes. After all, government is supposed to be as stupid and inefficient as possible. I'm all for it. In fact, we should have socialized porn. We should make sexual orientation and gender identity part of the census so we can send the appropriate pornographic material to each household.

Bullshit, theres no way they're getting a bailout!

Yes. After all, government is supposed to be as stupid and inefficient as possible. I'm all for it. In fact, we should have socialized porn. We should make sexual orientation and gender identity part of the census so we can send the appropriate pornographic material to each household.

That would be AWESOME!

the state of nevada DID operate mustang ranch for a while, and encouraged good looking (at least i HOPE they were reasonably good looking, having never been there myself, mustang ranch that is) female ex offenders to take their parole there.

but then that's prostitution and we were talking about porn, and bailouts.

personally i'm all for it. i'd certainly rather see public stock in playboy then bear sterns. ever see a stern naked bear? not a pretty sight.

I'm voting yes. After all, it's a multi-billion dollar industry that employs thousands of people, and think of all the mom and pop video stores that need help, and all of those guys fapping away around the country who will be left with nothing to fap to...

http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2009/01/07/2009-01-07_porn_kings_larry_flint_and_joe_francis_g.html

its a sign the economy is bad. why get porn when the majority of 18yr olds are selling themselves on the street for 5 bucks.

The difference between porn and prostitution is tenuous. The only difference is that porn is prostitution on tape.

It's still sex for money, though. Pornstars are prostitutes, both the men and the women.

Don't get me wrong: I'm for the legalization of prostitution, but I don't think porn people should be exempt of their deserved title simply because they happen to do what they do on camera. They're whores. Nothing more.

Oh f*ck......

I opposed all of the bailouts from the beginning, and throwing good money after bad never did anyone any good. I vote no.

The difference between porn and prostitution is tenuous. The only difference is that porn is prostitution on tape.

It's still sex for money, though. Pornstars are prostitutes, both the men and the women.

Don't get me wrong: I'm for the legalization of prostitution, but I don't think porn people should be exempt of their deserved title simply because they happen to do what they do on camera. They're whores. Nothing more.
What about people who DRAW porn?

The difference between porn and prostitution is tenuous. The only difference is that porn is prostitution on tape.

It's still sex for money, though. Pornstars are prostitutes, both the men and the women.

Don't get me wrong: I'm for the legalization of prostitution, but I don't think porn people should be exempt of their deserved title simply because they happen to do what they do on camera. They're whores. Nothing more.

Arguably, not really. The key distinction being that with prostitution, the client has sex with the prostitute, but in pornography, the client is a third party who watches the act.

Not sure if I'm entirely convinced by this argument, but it can be made.

No, if only because some of the money would apparently go to "Girls Gone Wild," which is quite possibly the stupidest franchise in the history of the universe. :p

Or best?

Or best?

No, stupidest. Why buy a DVD of what I could find for free almost anywhere if I really wanted to.

What about people who DRAW porn?

Drawing porn is drawing for money. It's not sex for money. Apples and bowling balls.

Arguably, not really. The key distinction being that with prostitution, the client has sex with the prostitute, but in pornography, the client is a third party who watches the act.

Not sure if I'm entirely convinced by this argument, but it can be made.

In many cases the same pornstar who stars in a production also does the casting and produces the film. Which essentially means that he/she's choosing their prostitute to come and have sex with them in exchange for money. They then make their money back by producing and selling the video of themselves having sex. I could name a whole slew of pornstars who do that, both men and women.

And because Pornstar X signed a release and Pornstar/Porn Producer Y said he/she intended to distribute the material, Pornstar/Porn Producer Y is therefore free to do what would otherwise be solicitation of prostitution, and Pornstar X is free to engage in prostitution without it being illegal.

And it shouldn't be illegal. I'm not saying it should be. But it also shouldn't be viewed in the context of a lie.

They're whores. All of them, regardless of gender. The same as a crackho on the streetcorner who wants to suck your dick for $8.