NationStates Jolt Archive


I never thought I'd see the day

Hoyteca
04-01-2009, 08:59
http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=2724

A game actually outselling the original Super Mario Bros.? That's a sales record that survived every Grand Theft Auto, Halo, and Pokemon.
Dimesa
04-01-2009, 09:02
That's industry growth for you. Video games weren't mainstream back then, so I'd still say Super Mario Bros was more impressive. Now with this Wiitarded stuff it's a ubiquitous fad with everyone twirling around a piece of plastic. :)
Hoyteca
04-01-2009, 09:04
That's industry growth for you. Video games weren't mainstream back then, so I'd still say Mario was more impressive. Now with this Wiitarded stuff it's a ubiquitous fad with everyone twirling around a piece of plastic. :)

HEY! The Wii is awesome. Just ignore the crap (EVERY console has crap. Yes, even the Playstations and Xboxes) and focus on the Mario Galaxies and Metroid Primes. And the backwards compatability. The Wii has 100% backwards compatability with the Gamecube catalouge. The PS3 and 360 can't beat that.
Dimesa
04-01-2009, 09:11
Metroid is ok, that's just one game, or series, and it's gone fps. The Smash Bros games were sort of ok to play for a little while. Zelda has gotten decidedly kiddied up. Other than that, Nintendo = younger players, or people who prefer childish things. It doesn't interest me.
Gauntleted Fist
04-01-2009, 10:10
The Wii has 100% backwards compatability with the Gamecube catalouge. The number one question being why anyone on the planet would want to go back that Dreamcast rip-off.

(Kudos if you understood that one.)
Peisandros
04-01-2009, 10:22
Omfg. Wii? I mean it's awesome, but that awesome -- I dunno.
G3N13
04-01-2009, 10:27
Wii is the only console that's different from PC.
Gauntleted Fist
04-01-2009, 10:31
Wii is the only console that's different from PC.Different is not better. :D

I do like the Wii, though. (I wouldn't own one, otherwise.)
G3N13
04-01-2009, 10:32
Different is not better. :D
Never said anything about quality :tongue:
Gauntleted Fist
04-01-2009, 10:38
Never said anything about quality :tongue:No, that was me. :p
SaintB
04-01-2009, 10:47
I think the Wii is a fun little toy to play with, but I never found a compelling reason to buy one.
The Infinite Dunes
04-01-2009, 10:52
It's kinda of unfair to compare the rate at which these two games sell/sold to other games as I'm pretty sure they both came/come bundled with the console.

So all this stat really says is that the Wii is out selling the NES... which you'd hope, two decades on, would be the case. But then it's also the fastest selling console ever. ie. Nintendo opened the market up, rather than just doing the same old shit for a loyal geekdom. Kudos to Nintendo.

But then, I don't especially consider myself a fan of graphics... but I find myself playing on a Wii thinking 'this is the best it can come up with?'.
The Infinite Dunes
04-01-2009, 10:53
I think the Wii is a fun little toy to play with, but I never found a compelling reason to buy one.Seeing as how the main point of a games console is to have fun, how is that not a compelling reason? :confused:
Egalitierra
04-01-2009, 11:05
Seeing as how the main point of a games console is to have fun, how is that not a compelling reason? :confused:

Perhaps there are other, better, less costly ways to have fun.
Egalitierra
04-01-2009, 11:15
I've never played it. With it? On it? I don't even know how to correctly phrase that, 'cause I'm not exactly sure what it is or how it's used. A few friends are into playing it these days, though, and it makes me a little sad. I'm really not sure why. Perhaps it's because it is yet another alternative to outdoor activities but one that takes it a step further and can give people the idea that they're still enjoying those outdoor activities. And all of these new creations are just making it more and more possible for people to stay in the confines of their own homes for longer and longer periods of time, without any real, face-to-face, in person communication/interaction with others.
Rotovia-
04-01-2009, 11:17
I hate Wii
The Infinite Dunes
04-01-2009, 11:21
Perhaps there are other, better, less costly ways to have fun.Better is entirely subjective, but from my brief time playing on a Wii I've found it to be one of the consoles on which people actually talk whilst playing. And not just about the game at hand, but other things. It's like because the game doesn't require your full attention you don't zone out. It's nice, and I quite like it.
The Infinite Dunes
04-01-2009, 11:24
I've never played it. With it? On it? I don't even know how to correctly phrase that, 'cause I'm not exactly sure what it is or how it's used. A few friends are into playing it these days, though, and it makes me a little sad. I'm really not sure why. Perhaps it's because it is yet another alternative to outdoor activities but one that takes it a step further and can give people the idea that they're still enjoying those outdoor activities. And all of these new creations are just making it more and more possible for people to stay in the confines of their own homes for longer and longer periods of time, without any real, face-to-face, in person communication/interaction with others.What's it? Consoles in general or the Wii?

But anyway, it's the equivalent of -10C outside. The hell if I'm going outside unless I have to.
Egalitierra
04-01-2009, 11:28
Better is entirely subjective...

Exactly. You know what else is entirely subjective? Whether or not something is compelling. I'm not saying that it is a bad video game console (I haven't even played it; I'm not much of a gamer at all, anyway), but I was answering your question. There are plenty of reasons why the fact that the game can be "fun" isn't a compelling enough reason to buy one.

That being said, if it's a fun game for you and something that you really enjoy, I feel bad knocking it. There's still a part of me that feels sad watching everyone waste time on technology and hardly any time on people, though. ): (Yes, I know I'm sitting in front of my computer right now. Bah!)
Western Mercenary Unio
04-01-2009, 11:28
Better is entirely subjective, but from my brief time playing on a Wii I've found it to be one of the consoles on which people actually talk whilst playing. And not just about the game at hand, but other things. It's like because the game doesn't require your full attention you don't zone out. It's nice, and I quite like it.

Me and my brother talk while the other is playing the game about a lot of stuff. Granted, most of it is about the game.
Egalitierra
04-01-2009, 11:30
What's it? Consoles in general or the Wii?

But anyway, it's the equivalent of -10C outside. The hell if I'm going outside unless I have to.

The Wii, in particular.

Pft, don't pretend that you don't sit and play video games or play on the computer when there's perfectly beautiful weather! d:
South Lorenya
04-01-2009, 11:44
Mmmmm... after two decades of a Nintendo game being the best seller, the record is broken by... another Nintendo game! XD
The Infinite Dunes
04-01-2009, 11:48
Me and my brother talk while the other is playing the game about a lot of stuff. Granted, most of it is about the game.It's probably more me. I tend to zone out pretty easily.

Exactly. You know what else is entirely subjective? Whether or not something is compelling. I'm not saying that it is a bad video game console (I haven't even played it; I'm not much of a gamer at all, anyway), but I was answering your question. There are plenty of reasons why the fact that the game can be "fun" isn't a compelling enough reason to buy one.

That being said, if it's a fun game for you and something that you really enjoy, I feel bad knocking it. There's still a part of me that feels sad watching everyone waste time on technology and hardly any time on people, though. ): (Yes, I know I'm sitting in front of my computer right now. Bah!)I understand that point. The novelty value is fun, but can wear off quickly. With a fair few games the objective of the game is move the wiimote in a particular way as quickly as possible. Which, while fun, the first few times, does get pretty dull.

Eh, don't worry. I don't own a console either. I have a couple of friends that own Wiis, and a flatmate that owns a 360. So ocassionally I play on them.

The Wii, in particular.

Pft, don't pretend that you don't sit and play video games or play on the computer when there's perfectly beautiful weather! d:I do, but not often. If the weather is good then I normally take it as an excuse to have a BBQ. We all pitch in a little for the food and much fun is had by all.
Peisandros
04-01-2009, 11:51
I do, but not often. If the weather is good then I normally take it as an excuse to have a BBQ. We all pitch in a little for the food and much fun is had by all.

Fuck I love BBQs.
Egalitierra
04-01-2009, 11:53
I do, but not often. If the weather is good then I normally take it as an excuse to have a BBQ. We all pitch in a little for the food and much fun is had by all.

See! There we go. That's a nice little social gathering. d: And mmmm, good food as well, I'm assuming. Of course, it would probably get costly and tiresome having regular barbecues, wouldn't it? Do you have 'em at a park or in your backyard or...?
SaintB
04-01-2009, 11:54
Seeing as how the main point of a games console is to have fun, how is that not a compelling reason? :confused:

I've never been able to have fun with any of the Wii games for more than 20 minutes tops. Granted, I generally have a LOT of fun, its sort of like Guitar hero the whole novelty wears off and it gets dull.
Blouman Empire
04-01-2009, 11:54
Considering that WiiSports came with the Wii (at least in Oz) it is hardly surprising that it is a top selling game.
Blouman Empire
04-01-2009, 11:57
Better is entirely subjective, but from my brief time playing on a Wii I've found it to be one of the consoles on which people actually talk whilst playing. And not just about the game at hand, but other things. It's like because the game doesn't require your full attention you don't zone out. It's nice, and I quite like it.

Some games require that sort of attention but there are plenty of other games where you can talk. Indeed I was playing FIFA09 just yesterday with a few people and we were talking about many other topics. I could list many other games where I do this, but then again if people can't multitask then it does become a bother
Egalitierra
04-01-2009, 11:59
A couple of people have mentioned that the game came with the Wii, making this an unsurprising fact. (First of all, I'm going to guess that this isn't the only game to ever come with a console. But I could very well be wrong.) But! What I really want to know is, does that count? Isn't that more like "giving away" than "selling"? Or does it just count the sales made to distributors who could then...include the game with the purchase of a Wii console?
SaintB
04-01-2009, 12:03
A couple of people have mentioned that the game came with the Wii, making this an unsurprising fact. (First of all, I'm going to guess that this isn't the only game to ever come with a console. But I could very well be wrong.) But! What I really want to know is, does that count? Isn't that more like "giving away" than "selling"? Or does it just count the sales made to distributors who could then...include the game with the purchase of a Wii console?

Nintendo has ALWAYS packaged a game with their consoles. Usually its a version of Mario, the Nintendo Wii has outsold every console Nintendo ever made, that being said, so has Wii sports outsold any Mario game ever made.
The Infinite Dunes
04-01-2009, 12:04
Fuck I love BBQs.I know great fun. Especially so for one of our pyro friends. We have to make sure he is never allowed near the lighter fluid ever again. One moment we have a full bottle. We turn our back for a like a second and then we all we have is an empty bottle and a mile high raging fire.

See! There we go. That's a nice little social gathering. d: And mmmm, good food as well, I'm assuming. Of course, it would probably get costly and tiresome having regular barbecues, wouldn't it? Do you have 'em at a park or in your backyard or...?We have them in the backyard. That way someone can plug an ipod into the kitchen speakers and we can have music as well. I didn't find it expensive at all. Mind you we do buy the cheapest stuff available. The BBQ itself cost us a mear £25 or something. Thighs and drumsticks are great though. Well cheap and well tasty. Hoorah for a western obsession with chicken breast. I hear slaughter houses will sometimes sell thighs and drumsticks at a loss, because it's cheaper than throwing them away (in the EU that is). :D
Peisandros
04-01-2009, 12:10
I know great fun. Especially so for one of our pyro friends. We have to make sure he is never allowed near the lighter fluid ever again. One moment we have a full bottle. We turn our back for a like a second and then we all we have is an empty bottle and a mile high raging fire.

Lol, okay, that doesn't sound quite so fun. But nothing beats cooking lots of meat while drinking beer. Plus it's pretty much the only cooking I can do.

Back on topic for a bit, I've only played WiiSports a few times, but it was pretty fun. I wouldn't buy it though.
Egalitierra
04-01-2009, 12:12
We have them in the backyard. That way someone can plug an ipod into the kitchen speakers and we can have music as well. I didn't find it expensive at all. Mind you we do buy the cheapest stuff available. The BBQ itself cost us a mear £25 or something. Thighs and drumsticks are great though. Well cheap and well tasty. Hoorah for a western obsession with chicken breast. I hear slaughter houses will sometimes sell thighs and drumsticks at a loss, because it's cheaper than throwing them away (in the EU that is). :D

Ah, chicken. I don't really like chicken. You don't do any hamburgers, steaks, sausages, or anything like that? d:

Music and cook-outs are great, though.

(I feel guilty for sending this thread into a conversation about barbecues, hah.)
The Infinite Dunes
04-01-2009, 12:29
Lol, okay, that doesn't sound quite so fun. But nothing beats cooking lots of meat while drinking beer. Plus it's pretty much the only cooking I can do.

Back on topic for a bit, I've only played WiiSports a few times, but it was pretty fun. I wouldn't buy it though.Oh it was alright, the fire was confined to the BBQ and died down, eventually. Beer, music and BBQ. Sweet.

Ah, chicken. I don't really like chicken. You don't do any hamburgers, steaks, sausages, or anything like that? d:

Music and cook-outs are great, though.

(I feel guilty for sending this thread into a conversation about barbecues, hah.)Don't feel guilty. Thread de-railing can be quite common on NSG.

We do hamburgers and sausages, but not steaks. Don't have the money for steaks. At least not regularly. But you can't really marinade burgers and sausages.
Blouman Empire
04-01-2009, 12:47
Oh it was alright, the fire was confined to the BBQ and died down, eventually. Beer, music and BBQ. Sweet.

Bet that was the last time you invited him.

Don't feel guilty. Thread de-railing can be quite common on NSG.

It gets easier everytime you do it.
Egalitierra
04-01-2009, 13:14
It gets easier everytime you do it.

Don't tell me that! I could see it becoming preferable. I'll end up hardly ever on-topic.
Blouman Empire
04-01-2009, 13:23
Don't tell me that! I could see it becoming preferable. I'll end up hardly ever on-topic.

Welcome to my life.
Peisandros
04-01-2009, 13:36
Welcome to my life.

It's true.
Lapse
04-01-2009, 14:32
http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=2724

A game actually outselling the original Super Mario Bros.? That's a sales record that survived every Grand Theft Auto, Halo, and Pokemon.
Mmmmm... after two decades of a Nintendo game being the best seller, the record is broken by... another Nintendo game! XD
Given that:
Considering that WiiSports came with the Wii (at least in Oz) it is hardly surprising that it is a top selling game.


Then obviously, Windows solitaire, Minesweeper and other games packaged with windows count.

I'm fairly sure there have been more copies of windows (and the oackaged games) sold than their are wii sports things sold. That is not taking into account people pirating either.
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Hayteria
04-01-2009, 19:42
Metroid is ok, that's just one game, or series, and it's gone fps. The Smash Bros games were sort of ok to play for a little while. Zelda has gotten decidedly kiddied up. Other than that, Nintendo = younger players, or people who prefer childish things. It doesn't interest me.
What exactly are you calling "childish" about Nintendo games?
Skallvia
04-01-2009, 19:45
Wow, thats pretty hardcore...

Although, to tell you the truth, I was more surprised that Super Mario Bros. hadnt already been outsold, lol...
Ifreann
04-01-2009, 20:40
I've never played it. With it? On it? I don't even know how to correctly phrase that, 'cause I'm not exactly sure what it is or how it's used.
You should some time, it's fun.
A few friends are into playing it these days, though, and it makes me a little sad. I'm really not sure why. Perhaps it's because it is yet another alternative to outdoor activities but one that takes it a step further and can give people the idea that they're still enjoying those outdoor activities.
What's wrong with having fun indoors?
And all of these new creations are just making it more and more possible for people to stay in the confines of their own homes for longer and longer periods of time, without any real, face-to-face, in person communication/interaction with others.
The Wii is probably the party console. WiiSports or WiiPlay could keep people amused for quite some time. Especially if they're drinking.
What exactly are you calling "childish" about Nintendo games?

Things don't blow up enough and there aren't enough tits.
Skallvia
04-01-2009, 20:44
Things don't blow up enough and there aren't enough tits.

It really is the only way to play video games...*plays GTA Hot coffee* lol
Ifreann
04-01-2009, 20:47
It really is the only way to play video games...*plays GTA Hot coffee* lol

I'm still waiting for a left4dead mod that alters where the smoker's tongue fires from. And maybe a change to how the hunter's tackle is animated.
Western Mercenary Unio
04-01-2009, 20:50
Things don't blow up enough and there aren't enough tits.

Does Bioshock have tits? Or Fallout 3?
Skallvia
04-01-2009, 20:50
Does Bioshock have tits? Or Fallout 3?

If you look hard enough :p
Ifreann
04-01-2009, 20:51
Does Bioshock have tits? Or Fallout 3?

They have enough things blowing up to make up for the lack of tits.
Skallvia
04-01-2009, 20:53
Although, I think Mario was pretty violent, Hed crush things to a flattened pulp beneath his Boot! And, lets not forget that Toadstool had very large...ugh...tracks of land...
Western Mercenary Unio
04-01-2009, 20:54
If you look hard enough :p

Right.

They have enough things blowing up to make up for the lack of tits.

Stuff blowing up is all you need!
Ifreann
04-01-2009, 20:55
Stuff blowing up is all you need!

Clearly demonstrated by DOOM.
Western Mercenary Unio
04-01-2009, 20:57
Clearly demonstrated by DOOM.

Which I haven't played.
Ifreann
04-01-2009, 21:01
Which I haven't played.

I'm sure there are plenty of places where you could.......acquire it in a legally ambiguous manner via some manner of file-sharing implement.
Western Mercenary Unio
04-01-2009, 21:02
I'm sure there are plenty of places where you could.......acquire it in a legally ambiguous manner via some manner of file-sharing implement.

I'll check Pirate Bay.

What?