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What is the best organization/cult/empire in Star Wars?

Denecaep
04-01-2009, 06:03
What is the best organization/cult/empire in Star Wars?

Yes I know some of these are on the similar or temporarily on the same side.
Chazakain
04-01-2009, 06:06
say what?
notices poll, ah
Sith(depends on era, but if rule of two is followed than yeah they're the most organized or at least second)
Jedi(bah, either to few or to many to do anything)
Old Republic(depends on era, if near the fight with CIS, they're the worst, if near the revan/jedi exile era they get a bit better but still pretty bad)
New Republic(worse than jedi)
CIS(bah, to many figure heads not enough actual fighting men/generals)
Rebel Alliance/Galactic Alliance(decent, probably below the sith but above almost everyone else)
Galactic Empire(ok during emperor rule, sucks for a good 20 years after death)
Yuuhzang Vong (over stretched themselves but have a united front most of the time so either 2nd or 3rd best organized.)
Denecaep
04-01-2009, 06:20
organization as a noun
Dododecapod
04-01-2009, 06:22
The True Empire from the Legacy period.

All the order and discipline of the Empire, combined with good government and racial near-equality.
Denecaep
04-01-2009, 06:23
like, the organization of...
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as in group, company, or team
Augmark
04-01-2009, 06:24
The Galactic Empire without a doubt, mostly during the Palpatine era. Order was brought to over 1 million worlds, and 50 million colonies in the Galaxy.
Risottia
04-01-2009, 11:59
The Black Sun.
SaintB
04-01-2009, 12:13
The Black Sun.

The Zann Consortium. The Black Sun ceased to exist after Xizor died and Tyber Zann was there to fill in the gap, the Hutt Cartels pretty much fell dormant after Jabba died.

Besides, you have to be a powerful organization to blackmail the Mandalorians.

Barring the Zann Consortium... the Mandalorians.
SaintB
04-01-2009, 12:29
For lols, I would suggest the B'omarr or Dim'U Brotherhood.
Galaxianda
04-01-2009, 14:59
The Jedi win for defo!
The Romulan Republic
04-01-2009, 15:02
The Rebel Alliance. Which is in no way the same organization as the Galactic Alliance, unless I've got the EU very mixed up.
Intestinal fluids
04-01-2009, 15:21
The Steel Workers Union. They are able to whip together entire planets capable of blowing up other planets in a real short time and on schedule. This is the true giveaway that Star Wars is fiction, because the second Death Star was built on time and on budget.
Risottia
04-01-2009, 15:22
The Zann Consortium. The Black Sun ceased to exist after Xizor died and Tyber Zann was there to fill in the gap, the Hutt Cartels pretty much fell dormant after Jabba died.

Besides, you have to be a powerful organization to blackmail the Mandalorians.

Barring the Zann Consortium... the Mandalorians.

Oh well, I'm not a EU expert, so I'll trust you.
Harmonia Mortis
04-01-2009, 17:49
The Mandalorians.
The Star Wars equivalent to the Chaos Space Marines.
Soheran
04-01-2009, 17:52
Jedi, obviously.
FreeSatania
04-01-2009, 17:53
The Empire but then I'm not impartial...
Lunatic Goofballs
04-01-2009, 18:01
The true behind-the-scenes rulers and manipulators: The droids. *nod*
Ad Nihilo
04-01-2009, 18:11
Nobody for Genoharadan?
Skallvia
04-01-2009, 19:21
Psh, Theyre all wrong...Its the Mandalorians, son....

None of those groups could stop them...

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/rpggeneration/images/f/fb/Mandskull.jpg
Bouitazia
04-01-2009, 19:26
The Midi-chlorians seemed to be a pretty organized bunch. ,)

*Prepares to dodge incoming blows*
Dododecapod
04-01-2009, 19:31
THERE ARE NO MIDICHLORIANS! {Fires Bouitazia-seeking missile}.
Bouitazia
04-01-2009, 19:33
THERE ARE NO MIDICHLORIANS! {Fires Bouitazia-seeking missile}.

*activates reflection shield and instead sees his idea get shot down in a matter of minutes*
Call to power
04-01-2009, 20:06
Gungans naturally
The Romulan Republic
04-01-2009, 20:54
I am disturbed at how many people are voting Mandalorian. The Mandos have never held significant Galactic power since the days of Darth Revan, correct?
Wilgrove
04-01-2009, 20:55
Sith, they have awesome lightening powers, and who doesn't want that?
Skallvia
04-01-2009, 20:56
I am disturbed at how many people are voting Mandalorian. The Mandos have never held significant Galactic power since the days of Darth Revan, correct?


theyve been involved in every conflict since then, and their side almost always came out on top...

Not to mention, Boba Fett was a Mandalorian...And nobody beats Boba Fett...
Lunatic Goofballs
04-01-2009, 20:57
Sith, they have awesome lightening powers, and who doesn't want that?

Fish.
Wilgrove
04-01-2009, 20:57
Fish.

I'm still looking for that bunny...
The Romulan Republic
04-01-2009, 20:57
theyve been involved in every conflict since then, and their side almost always came out on top...

Not to mention, Boba Fett was a Mandalorian...And nobody beats Boba Fett...

Except Luke Skywalker and a blind Han Solo.;)

Seriously, while I know the Mandos have tended to stick their noses in galactic affairs, I would like some examples to show that their side usually wins.
Articoa
04-01-2009, 20:58
Ewoks. Why? Cuz the can.

...Or the Zann Consortium.
Lunatic Goofballs
04-01-2009, 21:00
I'm still looking for that bunny...

I think it only looked like a bunny.
Skallvia
04-01-2009, 21:02
Except Luke Skywalker and a blind Han Solo.;)

Seriously, while I know the Mandos have tended to stick their noses in galactic affairs, I would like some examples to show that their side usually wins.

Actually, Not only does Boba survive, he kills that sarlacc, Twice, lol...

And, Its stated in Sacrifice by Karen Traviss, when the Mandos are debating whether to enter the War between the GA and Confederation...
The Romulan Republic
04-01-2009, 21:28
Actually, Not only does Boba survive, he kills that sarlacc, Twice, lol...

Twice? How? Anyhow, he still lost the fight, even if he survived.;)

And, Its stated in Sacrifice by Karen Traviss,

Not to dig up an old and ugly controversy, but I don't consider Ms. Travis a reliable source. I'm not saying she's a bad writer, just that her works are not nessissarily faithful to or compatible with other SW canon.

when the Mandos are debating whether to enter the War between the GA and Confederation...

I haven't read the book in question, but if the Mando's view of their own history doesn't match with the record it means nothing. When have they been on the winning side? The ancient Mandos helped the Sith, didn't they? And lost to Revan. The modern Mandos I don't know well, so I won't comment much further, but I would note that they play little or no role in the Original Trilogy, or The Thrawn Trilogy, or most of the Rebel campaign against the Empire. Unless Jango and Boba's bounty hunter work was done on behalf of the Mandos, I'm not sure that counts.

Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I can't think of very many times the Mandos played a major role, and even fewer, if any, where they were on the winning side. Perhaps they've remerged in recent stories, but I'm not sure. So I'm asking you to prove that they have been a major factor in all of the Galaxy's wars, let alone usually on the winning side.
Ifreann
04-01-2009, 21:30
The Steel Workers Union. They are able to whip together entire planets capable of blowing up other planets in a real short time and on schedule. This is the true giveaway that Star Wars is fiction, because the second Death Star was built on time and on budget.

If more construction projects were commissioned by a tyrant and his right hand man, who both have epic magic powers, then more projects would be finished early and under-budget.
Skallvia
04-01-2009, 22:00
Twice? How? Anyhow, he still lost the fight, even if he survived.;)

It turns out the Sarlacc is woven throughout Tatooine, and he kills part of it in order to escape, and is healed by Dengar, later when they are trying to make it back to the Slave I, they become trapped in another part of the Sarlacc, and he kills that section as well



Not to dig up an old and ugly controversy, but I don't consider Ms. Travis a reliable source. I'm not saying she's a bad writer, just that her works are not nessissarily faithful to or compatible with other SW canon.

What are you talking about? all of the EU is Canon, Books arent allowed to be written that arent canon



I haven't read the book in question, but if the Mando's view of their own history doesn't match with the record it means nothing. When have they been on the winning side? The ancient Mandos helped the Sith, didn't they? And lost to Revan. The modern Mandos I don't know well, so I won't comment much further, but I would note that they play little or no role in the Original Trilogy, or The Thrawn Trilogy, or most of the Rebel campaign against the Empire. Unless Jango and Boba's bounty hunter work was done on behalf of the Mandos, I'm not sure that counts.

Its mostly assassination and mercenary work, usually only briefly mentioned, due to the main Mando character being Boba Fett, who doesnt become Mandalore until after the Galactic Civil War, and later, they are instrumental in dealing with the Yuuzhan Vong.
The Romulan Republic
04-01-2009, 22:04
It turns out the Sarlacc is woven throughout Tatooine, and he kills part of it in order to escape, and is healed by Dengar, later when they are trying to make it back to the Slave I, they become trapped in another part of the Sarlacc, and he kills that section as well

I did not know that.

What are you talking about? all of the EU is Canon, Books arent allowed to be written that arent canon

Their have been controversies among fans over some of Travis's writings. I'll try to dig up some links. But in any case, Lucasfilm's quality control isn't great.

Its mostly assassination and mercenary work, usually only briefly mentioned, due to the main Mando character being Boba Fett, who doesnt become Mandalore until after the Galactic Civil War, and later, they are instrumental in dealing with the Yuuzhan Vong.

I'll take your word for it when it comes to the Vong. I am not an expert on that bit of Star Wars, to say the least.;)
SaintB
05-01-2009, 00:20
I am disturbed at how many people are voting Mandalorian. The Mandos have never held significant Galactic power since the days of Darth Revan, correct?

Your lack of faith disturbs me.

To be serious though, unlike most of the ones in the pole, the Mandalorians are still around.
SaintB
05-01-2009, 00:24
The Steel Workers Union. They are able to whip together entire planets capable of blowing up other planets in a real short time and on schedule. This is the true giveaway that Star Wars is fiction, because the second Death Star was built on time and on budget.

Disregard my other votes.. I vote this.


I'm surprised nobody asked me about those two lulzworthy organizations I put up.
Call to power
05-01-2009, 00:28
Fish.

eels up inside ya...

Ewoks. Why? Cuz the can.

I have a theory that they would at least get the most action out of all the factions >_>

If more construction projects were commissioned by a tyrant and his right hand man, who both have epic magic powers, then more projects would be finished early and under-budget.

so Darth has a kettle in that thing?
The Emmerian Unions
05-01-2009, 00:57
All Hail The Sith!
Belschaft
05-01-2009, 01:00
Second Civil War era Confederacy. Fighting for a good cause, and efficent as hell. I mean they used the Centerpoint station to destroy a fifth or so of the GA fleet, and had the perfect plan to bring the Hapan's into their camp. If it wasn't for a couple of meddling heroe's (Han and Leia) and a number dangerously mad leader's at Corellia they'd have won.
Dondolastan
05-01-2009, 01:05
Second Civil War era Confederacy. Fighting for a good cause, and efficent as hell. I mean they used the Centerpoint station to destroy a fifth or so of the GA fleet, and had the perfect plan to bring the Hapan's into their camp. If it wasn't for a couple of meddling heroe's (Han and Leia) and a number dangerously mad leader's at Corellia they'd have won.

And you don't mention Jaina? Who lopped off her own brothers head for the good of the galaxy?
The Emmerian Unions
05-01-2009, 01:07
And you don't mention Jaina? Who lopped off her own brothers head for the good of the galaxy?

Dang. THAT had to suck.
Dondolastan
05-01-2009, 01:14
Dang. THAT had to suck.

Do you need someone to read to you the part where that happened? Yeah, it sucked.
The Emmerian Unions
05-01-2009, 01:15
I'm good.
Dondolastan
05-01-2009, 01:16
I will anyways if I can find the book.

Never mind, it was a library book.
Belschaft
05-01-2009, 01:19
And you don't mention Jaina? Who lopped off her own brothers head for the good of the galaxy?

She wasn't in the Confederacy. She was part of Luke's gurilea Jedi army, wich declared loyalty to the GA - but not while Jacen was in charge. The Confederacy's biggest hitters where Wedge Antilles (before one of those dangeorusly mad leaders (Dur Gejjen) sacked him, before ordering his death) and Tur Phenier (Fel's old second in command).
Dondolastan
05-01-2009, 01:21
Is there any news about new books?
Humaneal People
05-01-2009, 02:48
Old republic during the clone wars
Dondolastan
05-01-2009, 02:51
Yeah I know about those.
Skallvia
05-01-2009, 03:17
And you don't mention Jaina? Who lopped off her own brothers head for the good of the galaxy?

>.> There should be a Spoiler alert on this thread, lol...


Im still reading that series<.<
Dondolastan
05-01-2009, 03:25
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Sorry, but how could you not see that coming anyways?
The Romulan Republic
05-01-2009, 13:35
NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Sorry, but how could you not see that coming anyways?

Well, I haven't read them, but its not like Luke loped off daddy's head for the good of the Galaxy.;)