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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/26/rnc.obama.satire/index.html

Actually, it's:

1) Open mouth
2) Insert CD
3) Insert foot
4) ?????
5) Profit!

Wow. One would expect a candidate for Chairman of the RNC to show a bit of.... hmm... tact. Wouldn't one?

"Oh, It was a joke!"

Jokes can be in bad taste, as Chip Saltsman doesn't seem to grasp.

Oh, and his name sounds like some off-brand potato chip. Just thought I'd mention that.:D

Bah, where is the link to the song so we can judge it fairly on it's artistic merit?

Bah, where is the link to the song so we can judge it fairly on it's artistic merit?

The tune is to Puff The Magic Dragon. It has no merit.

The tune is to Puff The Magic Dragon. It has no merit.

Careful when you diss Puff the Magic Dragon. Little Jackie Paper has a blade, and he might give you a papercut. :p

The CD sent to RNC members, first reported by The Hill on Friday, is titled "We Hate the USA"

Ouch...

dont you see? its SATIRE?

racist satire..... what could possible be misconstrued.

and they wonder why 90% of african americans vote democratic...

If its satire whats the problem, is Barrak himself offended by this?

.........You know whats kind of sad...Before '06 or so, I wouldve been offended by this...maybe two years of arguing with these same people have hardened me or something.....Idk...


But, when I saw that, I immediately thought..."its the RNC, what do you expect? who cares" lol...

Bah, where is the link to the song so we can judge it fairly on it's artistic merit?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXz2xaLNMQ

If its satire whats the problem, is Barrak himself offended by this?

It's not the satire, or even the fact that it's not very good satire. It's the source. People expect irreverence and tactlessness on NSG, but this Chip Saltzman fellow intends to head the RNC. One expects more functional self-editing equipment in one such as him.

Big deal, he's just a candidate, and obviously he won't win. I'm not defending the RNC, but I don't see the problem here, this is completely their problem. And if they want to actually align themselves with such morons, and even make them party leaders, that sounds like good news to me. Let the party crash and burn at an accelerated rate.

And by morons, I don't imply to say "oh what a racist jerk, meanie!". No, I mean plain old "moron", no more, no less. The party thinks it can continue appeal to moron populace and round them up with moron idols and still not be humiliated in the polls, so be it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXz2xaLNMQ

Yeah, that's not cool.

I was hoping it would at least be funny.

dont you see? its SATIRE?

racist satire..... what could possible be misconstrued.

and they wonder why 90% of african americans vote democratic...


It's not racist just a harmless joke. I have seen worse stuff on the boondocks. Also Blacks vote democratic mostly for economic reasons.


Jeez, this country seriously needs to grow the fuck up and stop being offended by everything that moves. I am half black and not offended by this one bit. It's a joke, spare the fake outrage and go focus on something important.

It's not racist just a harmless joke. I have seen worse stuff on the boondocks. Also Blacks vote democratic mostly for economic reasons.


Jeez, this country seriously needs to grow the fuck up and stop being offended by everything that moves. I am half black and not offended by this one bit. It's a joke, spare the fake outrage and go focus on something important.

If it was on TV, like The Boondocks...Id heartily agree with you....

But, the man was involved with the RNC, When it comes to Politics, they should be more sensitive than that, by default...

But, i really dont care, its no skin off my bones if the Republicans never when another election, thats all them, lol....

It's not racist just a harmless joke. I have seen worse stuff on the boondocks. Also Blacks vote democratic mostly for economic reasons.


Jeez, this country seriously needs to grow the fuck up and stop being offended by everything that moves. I am half black and not offended by this one bit. It's a joke, spare the fake outrage and go focus on something important.
i didnt say i was outraged.

i said it was racist and it is.

its almost as funny as when the RNC put the "macaca" guy in charge of ethnic outreach for the party.

Yeah, that's not cool.

I was hoping it would at least be funny.
limbaugh used to be fairly amusing 10+ years ago with his political satire songs but he has gotten to serious or something. now they just fall flat.

It's not the satire, or even the fact that it's not very good satire. It's the source. People expect irreverence and tactlessness on NSG, but this Chip Saltzman fellow intends to head the RNC. One expects more functional self-editing equipment in one such as him.

he's a politician... that negates any expectation of any functional self-editing equiptment...

thanks... more proof that the RNC is trying to commit suicide.

i didnt say i was outraged.

i said it was racist and it is.

its almost as funny as when the RNC put the "macaca" guy in charge of ethnic outreach for the party.


Please tell me what is so racist about it? Is it the word negro?

Please tell me what is so racist about it? Is it the word negro?
yes.

the phrase "Magic negro" and all it implies is racist.

now dont make me listen to it again for details, i cant take the pain.

Please tell me what is so racist about it? Is it the word negro?

I think it's the implication that white folks only voted for Obama out of a sense of guilt.

yes.

the phrase "Magic negro" and all it implies is racist.

now dont make me listen to it again for details, i cant take the pain.




:rolleyes:


I am half black and will say I am 100% NOT offended by that all. You are being oversensitive. I am sure Obama is too busy focusing on important matters to be bothered by this. At best he will give you a cheap soundbite and move on, no big deal.

I think it's the implication that white folks only voted for Obama out of a sense of guilt.


Guilt...Some did vote for him because he's black. I almost did that.

Please tell me what is so racist about it? Is it the word negro?

yes.

the phrase "Magic negro" and all it implies is racist.

now dont make me listen to it again for details, i cant take the pain.

sorry Ash... don't click on this...

CK... here's the lyrics

Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.

Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.

See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!

Refrain:
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.

(repeat Refrain)

Some say Barack's "articulate"
And bright and new and "clean"
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper's dream!

But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don't be fooled!
Don't vote the Magic Negro in
'Cause... (then sharpton goes on a ranting tangent as the chorus continues)

sad...

I am half black and will say I am 100% NOT offended by that all. You are being oversensitive.

Well, I guess, if one person on the interwebs that claims to be half-black isn't offended, no reasonable person ever could be offended.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Well, I guess, if one person on the interwebs that claims to be half-black isn't offended, no reasonable person ever could be offended.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:


When all else fails deny it.:rolleyes:

Guilt...Some did vote for him because he's black. I almost did that.

And I'm sure that some whites only voted for McCain because he was white. I don't see the RNC sending out a song calling them on it. A dual standard, thus, racism.

sorry Ash... don't click on this...

CK... here's the lyrics

Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.

Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.

See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!

Refrain:
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.

(repeat Refrain)

Some say Barack's "articulate"
And bright and new and "clean"
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper's dream!

But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don't be fooled!
Don't vote the Magic Negro in
'Cause... (then sharpton goes on a ranting tangent as the chorus continues)

sad...
lol

thanks for the hidden text junii. you are a good person!

When all else fails deny it.:rolleyes:

So you don't mind if we call you a Negro? How about a ******?

sorry Ash... don't click on this...

CK... here's the lyrics

Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.

Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.

See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!

Refrain:
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.

(repeat Refrain)

Some say Barack's "articulate"
And bright and new and "clean"
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper's dream!

But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don't be fooled!
Don't vote the Magic Negro in
'Cause... (then sharpton goes on a ranting tangent as the chorus continues)

sad...




:rolleyes:


My eyes, My eyes..

Barack Obama is black?!? :eek:

So you don't mind if we call you a Negro? How about a ******?



Grow Up dude, seriously.

Barack Obama is black?!? :eek:



No, He's a light Baige.

Grow Up dude, seriously.

LOL. Not that it matters, but I am probably older than you, sparky.

Get real, dude, seriously.

EDIT: Would you be offended by a song like "CK the clueless Negro"?

LOL. Not that it matters, but I am probably older than you, sparky.

Get real, dude, seriously.


I seriously doubt that sparky.


It's a harmless song, get over it.

....

....

....

Ok, and they're surprised they lost?

LOL. Not that it matters, but I am probably older than you, sparky.

Get real, dude, seriously.

EDIT: Would you be offended by a song like "CK the clueless Negro"?


Now you are just acting like a flamebaiting child. And I don't give two fucks what you think of me, You can't offend me. :rolleyes:

Now you are just acting like flamebaiting child. And I don't give two fucks what you think of me, You can't offend me. :rolleyes:

If it is just a "harmless song" and is inoffensive, how is it flamebait?

The very fact you react the way you do to the suggestion implies that the RNC song is childish, racist, and offensive.

I seriously doubt that sparky.


It's a harmless song, get over it.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cbQRSfTU7BE

It's ok, it's just a song. I doubt the composer meant anything by it.

If it is just a "harmless song" and is inoffensive, how is it flamebait?

The very fact you react the way you do to the suggestion implies that the RNC song is childish, racist, and offensive.



:rolleyes:


Nice try there, but you posted that name to purposely annoy me. The magic negro song was satire and was not designed to offend but as a joke, you posted that name to insult and offend me, both of which you failed. There is a major difference in the intentions behind both. I don't offend easily.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cbQRSfTU7BE

It's ok, it's just a song. I doubt the composer meant anything by it.


Overreacting much?

Overreacting much?

Not really, at what point is it ok for a large part of your government to send out racist material?

Not really, at what point is it ok for a large part of your government to send out racist material?

Um.....When you've abandoned all hope of actually governing ever again?

Not really, at what point is it ok for a large part of your government to send out racist material?



You are comparing the magic negro song to nazism, that is overreacting a little bit. As I stated before I don't find it racist at all.

Not really, at what point is it ok for a large part of your government to send out racist material?
the RNC Isnt part of the government.

not that that isnt beside the point.

in looking for a video of the song i saw that it generated a fair amout of controversy when rush limbaugh used it on his show in '07. he is an entertainer. its a whole different story when a man running for chairmanship of the RNC sends it out.

the RNC Isnt part of the government.

not that that isnt beside the point.

in looking for a video of the song i saw that it generated a fair amout of controversy when rush limbaugh used it on his show in '07. he is an entertainer. its a whole different story when a man running for chairmanship of the RNC sends it out.



Would you be offended if somebody made a song called Sarah the Magic Whitey?

*snip*



Just wanted to point out, from experience...Thats not a good idea friend....

the RNC Isnt part of the government.

not that that isnt beside the point.

in looking for a video of the song i saw that it generated a fair amout of controversy when rush limbaugh used it on his show in '07. he is an entertainer. its a whole different story when a man running for chairmanship of the RNC sends it out.

RNC? Republican National Committee?

Just wanted to point out, from experience...Thats not a good idea friend....


I am not being racist with it, just trying to illustrate a point of what is racist. If the mods don't like it the picture can be removed no problem, not my intention to be racist.

:rolleyes:


Nice try there, but you posted that name to purposely annoy me. The magic negro song was satire and was not designed to offend but as a joke, you posted that name to insult and offend me, both of which you failed. There is a major difference in the intentions behind both. I don't offend easily.

How could anyone think a CD entitled "We Hate the USA" featuring songs about the President-elect's race was in anyway insulting, offensive, or annoying? :eek:

Regardless, why do your sensibilities (apparently you "don't offend easily") set the standard for everyone else?

RNC? Republican National Committee?

Yeah, she's got a point...the committee itself isnt part of the government...

But, As it represents a large portion, the party with the second most seats in said government...I guess its almost a moot point....

How could anyone think a CD entitled "We Hate the USA" featuring songs about the President-elect's race was in anyway insulting, offensive, or annoying? :eek:


Surely though a typical racist would have named it "we love the USA", since they tend to be fierce right wing patriots.

You are comparing the magic negro song to nazism, that is overreacting a little bit. As I stated before I don't find it racist at all. You want racist look at this.

*snippy*

You didn't answer my question, when is it ok to send out racist material?

You also ignored this one:

And I'm sure that some whites only voted for McCain because he was white. I don't see the RNC sending out a song calling them on it. A dual standard, thus, racism.

I am not being racist with it, just trying to illustrate a point of what is racist. If the mods don't like it the picture can be removed no problem, not my intention to be racist.

Well...I said the same thing...and now I cant access this forum with the former profile...

I was just lettin you know...

How could anyone think a CD entitled "We Hate the USA" featuring songs about the President-elect's race was in anyway insulting, offensive, or annoying? :eek:


People with a sense of humor or people who don't give a fuck?

Regardless, why do your sensibilities (apparently you "don't offend easily") set the standard for everyone else?


I was about to ask you the same question.

Next time the Republicans whine that only rednecks and bigots vote for them, link this article. I have to say I'm surprised, I didn't think they still had this kind of blatant racism in them.

Well...I said the same thing...and now I cant access this forum with the former profile...

I was just lettin you know...



Ok, I removed it.

dont you see? its SATIRE?

racist satire..... what could possible be misconstrued.

and they wonder why 90% of african americans vote democratic...

You misunderstand Ash. It's not satirising Obama, it's satirising the RNC.




Isn't it?

You didn't answer my question, when is it ok to send out racist material?

I did answer it, I don't find it racist.

You also ignored this one:And I'm sure that some whites only voted for McCain because he was white. I don't see the RNC sending out a song calling them on it. A dual standard, thus, racism.

From what I have seen the RNC may not have made the song. Not sure who made it, but there is no double standard here. Some did, but nobody would criticze their own voter base just as Obama I am sure didn't call out Blacks who voted for him because of his race.

From what I have seen the RNC may not have made the song. Not sure who made it, but there is no double standard here. Some did, but nobody would criticze their own voter base just as Obama I am sure didn't call out Blacks who voted for him because of his race.

But Obama also didn't call out people who voted agaisnt him due to race. Hence the dual standard being shown by the RNC.

But Obama also didn't call out people who voted agaisnt him due to race. Hence the dual standard being shown by the RNC.



Are you sure about that? Or does the DNC attacking McCain over racists at his rallies not count here?

Would you be offended if somebody made a song called Sarah the Magic Whitey?
if some candidate for public office or office similar to the chairmanship of the RNC thought that sending out copies of "sarah the magic whitey" was appropriate, i would consider him unfit for the job.

RNC? Republican National Committee?
yaya. head of the republican party. the job is up for a change right now.

You misunderstand Ash. It's not satirising Obama, it's satirising the RNC.




Isn't it?
is it?

i guess id have to hear the whole cd.

not that i could stand that level of pain...

is it?

i guess id have to hear the whole cd.

not that i could stand that level of pain...

I'm kind of hoping it is. Unless the RNC is trying to look like a bunch of tools.

I'm kind of hoping it is. Unless the RNC is trying to look like a bunch of tools.
its just the one guy.

but it is a hopeful thought that if one looked at the CD it would be a warning to the party to shape up clothed in provocative songs.

yaya. head of the republican party. the Party is NEED OF a change right now.
Ahh... much better.
:p

Would you be offended if somebody made a song called Sarah the Magic Whitey?

Probably not.

"Whitey" doesn't have the history like "******" does.

Considering the RNC has been trying to win over African Americans; this should be a huge flag this guy shouldn't be running the RNC. Funny or not, it's not something he should have sent out....

------------------

It seems the site edits for the use of the "N bomb"

its just the one guy.

but it is a hopeful thought that if one looked at the CD it would be a warning to the party to shape up clothed in provocative songs.

It could be. Or a Democrat mole trying to run them into the ground.





Or the RNC are just tools.

Troll successful.

It could be. Or a Democrat mole trying to run them into the ground.





Or the RNC are just tools.
there has been a pretty shocking amount of racist stuff going around places that should know better.

like the alaskan government emails.

its disheartening to have a big time republican dealing in questionable material and that he thought that it was just funny.

but then i wonder how they think they will do better next time when they go to war with the unionized working class and that is much worse than bad taste.

*shrug* the republicans are a mystery to me. but ill continue to hold out a bit of hope that it was meant as a lesson rather than just an angry joke.

I see the folk I'm aiming at are offline. When you get back on ...

Fartsniffage, stay out of the "most offensive video I can get away with" duel.

TCT, that edit of yours was flamebait. I recognise you were using it to prove a point, ie, as part of your argument; but this is one where content outweighs intent. Cut it out.

CK, sensible of you to accept Skallvia's advice. Stick to the topic, please. TCT isn't the topic.

What the hell is wrong with those people!

The 'quick and simple' section of a cannibal's cookbook?

Now you are just acting like a flamebaiting child. And I don't give two fucks what you think of me, You can't offend me. :rolleyes:

Really? Is that why you responded with such calm and rational words?

limbaugh used to be fairly amusing 10+ years ago with his political satire songs but he has gotten to serious or something. now they just fall flat.

It's well-documented that Conservatives, and especially Republican Concervatives, don't do satire well.

It's well-documented that Conservatives, and especially Republican Concervatives, don't do satire well.

Sure they do. Have you even read Conservapedia?

Sure they do. Have you even read Conservapedia?

That's not satire. There should be a little flashing banner beneath each article that reads "this is what we actually believe".

That's not satire. There should be a little flashing banner beneath each article that reads "this is what we actually believe".
you know thats true because they have editorial control.

so even when some liberal went on there trying to troll by posting something outrageous, if its more than an hour old, he failed. its what they really believe.

I am interested in the reactions to the song sung and published on CD by the Republican candidate for the Republican National Party, and played by Rush Limbaugh.

IIRC santa delivered them piles of coal with obscenities written on them.

sounds shit they really should of put some drums in or something to make it a bit more interesting...yes it is horrendously offensive

(I'd link it but I might get hurt by the mods but its on youtube)

That's the beauty of democracy; they can be idiots and we can laugh and point at them for being idiots.

Didn't we have this thread already? Regardless, I'm still amused that the RNC use their right to bear arms to shoot themselves in the foot.

That's the beauty of democracy; they can be idiots and we can laugh and point at them for being idiots.

so this CD will soon be topping the charts and they will make billions in sponsorships? :confused:

so this CD will soon be topping the charts and they will make billions in sponsorships? :confused:

Given some of the garbage the music industry touts as "music", that wouldn't be much of a stretch. It'll be a fad then die a horrible death.

Given some of the garbage the music industry touts as "music", that wouldn't be much of a stretch. It'll be a fad then die a horrible death.

maybe we could get them in the big brother house? :wink:

Do you have a link so we can hear the song?

maybe we could get them in the big brother house? :wink:

With some democrats, of course. The essence of drama is conflict.

Haven't heard it but, is there a way of listening to it on the net?

Haven't heard it but, is there a way of listening to it on the net?

The Magic Negro song is on youtube, don't know about the rest of the CD.

Haven't heard it but, is there a way of listening to it on the net?

YouTube

The Magic Negro song is on youtube, don't know about the rest of the CD.

I'll check it then. Thanks.

its a song from the rush limbaugh radio show from shortly after the la times opinion piece used the term.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story

the song mocks al sharpton rather than barack obama. sharpton is a frequent target on his show and obama was a long shot at the time very unlikely to win any delegates.

it was fairly controversial at the time so im surprised that the RNCC candidate would think that it was just good fun to put it on a cd and pass it around.

Barak had a Magic Negro song made about him too! Maybe Barack can help him out!

It had to be done.

the song mocks al sharpton

Well Al Sharpton does make himself a target most of the time, just like Jesse Jackson.

Well Al Sharpton does make himself a target most of the time, just like Jesse Jackson.
and rush makes the most of it.

not fairly, mind you, but he goes for it on a regular basis

(and this is based on listening to his show for no more than 15 minutes at a time in the car less than once a week)

and rush makes the most of it.

not fairly, mind you, but he goes for it on a regular basis

(and this is based on listening to his show for no more than 15 minutes at a time in the car less than once a week)

True. Maybe if we tell all the idiots that there's a space ship going to Candy Mountain on Mars, they'll board the space ship and we can send them to the Sun?

Do you have a link so we can hear the song?

Context and song here (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/12/29/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry4689596.shtml) (it's a news article that includes a link)

Contrary to the arguments of some in this thread, it apparently is not just oversensitive hyper-lefties that are offended by and/or outraged at this CD:

Republican National Committee Chairman Mike Duncan -- battling to keep his job as head of the party -- was the first prominent member of the GOP to criticize Saltsman for sending committee members the song.

"The 2008 election was a wake-up call for Republicans to reach out and bring more people into our party," Duncan said in a Saturday statement. "I am shocked and appalled that anyone would think this is appropriate, as it clearly does not move us in the right direction."

He is one of several candidates running to replace Duncan in the closely contested race to lead the Republican Party.

Michigan party chairman Saul Anuzis also questioned Saltsman's judgment.

"In my opinion, this isn't funny and it's in bad taste," he said in a statement. "Just as important, anything that paints the GOP as being motivated in our criticism of President-elect Obama by anything other than a difference in philosophy does a disservice to our party." Watch more about the controversy over the song »

Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer -- who has reportedly been weighing a run for the party's top spot, but has not officially announced a bid -- released a Monday morning statement praising candidates who have weighed in against the "racially insulting song."

"As the GOP Chairman in one of our nation's most ethnically and culturally diverse states, I am especially disappointed by the inappropriate words and actions we've seen over the past few days," he said. "I am proud of those party leaders who have stood up in firm opposition to this type of behavior."

"Actions such as the distribution of this CD, regardless of intent, only serves to promote divisiveness and distracts us from our common goal of building our party."

....

James Richardson, the RNC's online communication manager for the 2008 election cycle, called Saltsman's move "quite the revealing faux pas."

"Granted, he didn't pull a George Allen and personally call Obama a 'magic Negro,' but sending a CD with those lyrics shortly after electing the first African-American president -- one supported by nearly 97 percent of the African-American community -- shows a serious lack of judgment, tact and the necessary level of racial sensitivity expected of public officials," wrote Richardson, a Red State contributor, on conservative blog The Skepticians.

"And while I'm sure Saltsman doesn't espouse racist sentiments, this will undoubtedly be spun as an angry, white Southerner stoking the flames of racial tensions after losing to a minority candidate," Richardson wrote. "Hell, why don't we go ahead and give 'em the other 3 percent, too, Chip?" linky (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/29/saltsman.obama.song/)

Contrary to the arguments of some in this thread, it apparently is not just oversensitive hyper-lefties that are offended by and/or outraged at this CD:

-snip-

Seriously, after the trouncing received in 2006 and 2008 congressional races and the horrible performance of McCain/Palin, you would think that the GOP would be trying to broaden their appeal. Did this Saltsman guy, running for the chairman of the committee give even the slightest thought that maybe this might not be the best image to present after two consecutive election ass-whoopings?

I'm surprised the remaining republican senators defending their seats in 2010 didn't beat him with sockfuls of quarters. :p

Seriously, after the trouncing received in 2006 and 2008 congressional races and the horrible performance of McCain/Palin, you would think that the GOP would be trying to broaden their appeal. Did this Saltsman guy, running for the chairman of the committee give even the slightest thought that maybe this might not be the best image to present after two consecutive election ass-whoopings?

I'm surprised the remaining republican senators defending their seats in 2010 didn't beat him with sockfuls of quarters. :p

He is a Republican.

They'd only have turned him on.

He is a Republican.

They'd only have turned him on.

Touche' :D

sorry Ash... don't click on this...

CK... here's the lyrics

Barack the Magic Negro lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's not authentic like me.

Yeah, the guy from the L.A. paper
Said he makes guilty whites feel good
They'll vote for him, and not for me
'Cause he's not from the hood.

See, real black men, like Snoop Dog,
Or me, or Farrakhan
Have talked the talk, and walked the walk.
Not come in late and won!

Refrain:
Oh, Barack the Magic Negro, lives in D.C.
The L.A. Times, they called him that
'Cause he's black, but not authentically.

(repeat Refrain)

Some say Barack's "articulate"
And bright and new and "clean"
The media sure loves this guy,
A white interloper's dream!

But, when you vote for president,
Watch out, and don't be fooled!
Don't vote the Magic Negro in
'Cause... (then sharpton goes on a ranting tangent as the chorus continues)

sad...

Read the lyrics in the 1st 3 lines. The song appears to have been inspired by a quote from the L.A. Times. Damn those right-wing fanatical Republicans at the Times!

dont you see? its SATIRE?

racist satire..... what could possible be misconstrued.

and they wonder why 90% of african americans vote democratic...

It's racist because the album targeted black and white people? If you read the article it also states how the CD containted songs targeted at John Edwards, he's white right? Maybe it dually racist?

Maybe we should stop trying to find racism where is really isn't, and has no reason to be. Merely because Obama is black does not mean we'll get to cry racist everytime someone doesn't like one of his moves.

It's racist because the album targeted black and white people? If you read the article it also states how the CD containted songs targeted at John Edwards, he's white right? Maybe it dually racist?

Maybe we should stop trying to find racism where is really isn't, and has no reason to be. Merely because Obama is black does not mean we'll get to cry racist everytime someone doesn't like one of his moves.
when the criticism revolves around race, its racist.

i dont remember what the edwards song was about but that it wasnt racist doesnt reflect on the racist nature of "barack the magic negro"

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The LA Times article is here (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story) and the Wikipedia explanation of the literary figure "the magical negro" is here (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story).

Seems to me that the term "magical negro" is not racist because it's denoting parallels between a living person and a literary stock character -- you could reasonably, if idiotically, say "Native American characters sometimes play the magical negro in fantasy fiction".

But the song seems to be saying "Obama's not black enough". Which is to say, "All black men should behave in a certain way". Which sounds racist to me. Like calling a Jewish politician Whatsisname the Shylock.

/modhat:

The LA Times article is here (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story) and the Wikipedia explanation of the literary figure "the magical negro" is here (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story).

Seems to me that the term "magical negro" is not racist because it's denoting parallels between a living person and a literary stock character -- you could reasonably, if idiotically, say "Native American characters sometimes play the magical negro in fantasy fiction".

But the song seems to be saying "Obama's not black enough". Which is to say, "All black men should behave in a certain way". Which sounds racist to me. Like calling a Jewish politician Whatsisname the Shylock.
ya it seemed to me to be an imperfect usage of a hollywood concept when it was first used back in '07 (and when shortly afterwards new mittani (?) started using it here)

the song wasnt even a dis against obama but rather against the black establishment who (supposedly) werent in favor of a more mainstream black politician. obama was such a ludicrous long shot in spring of '07 that he wasnt worth satiring on his own.

in its context it was fine for a columnist to write about the concept of the magic negro applied to obama and it was fine for a comedian/entertainer/talkshow host like rush limbaugh to make a song about it--its part of his schtick and has been for a very long time.

but without that context and on a political CD its not OK to pull out this song that went by more than a year ago. its not particularly OK to put out a cd that disses the opposition with any of the other songs. its petty and bitter. it makes all republicans look small.

/modhat:

The LA Times article is here (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story) and the Wikipedia explanation of the literary figure "the magical negro" is here (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,3391015.story).

Seems to me that the term "magical negro" is not racist because it's denoting parallels between a living person and a literary stock character -- you could reasonably, if idiotically, say "Native American characters sometimes play the magical negro in fantasy fiction".

But the song seems to be saying "Obama's not black enough". Which is to say, "All black men should behave in a certain way". Which sounds racist to me. Like calling a Jewish politician Whatsisname the Shylock.

To me, there are several reasons why this song is racist.

One of them is that while the concept of "the magic negro" may be controversial but not racist when applied to a character in a book or movie, calling a individual person a "magic negro" is a different thing altogether.

Also the whole song is supposed to be Rev. Al Sharpton singing about how he is a "authentic" negro, while President-elect Obama is a "magic negro." That is insulting and racist not just as it applies to Obama, but as it applies to Sharpton.

Next, consider the context. This isn't a thoughtful literary critique or an editorial on racial relations. Saltsman thinks it's funny because it makes fun of Obama and other black people. Humor may have been intended, but this is a CD entitled "We Hate The USA" that contained other racially tinged songs as well. Racist humor is still racist, even if its humor.

It's racist because the album targeted black and white people? If you read the article it also states how the CD containted songs targeted at John Edwards, he's white right? Maybe it dually racist?

Maybe we should stop trying to find racism where is really isn't, and has no reason to be. Merely because Obama is black does not mean we'll get to cry racist everytime someone doesn't like one of his moves.

It is racist because it is racist, not because it criticized a black man.

Get a clue. Even high-ranking Republicans are saying this was stupid and racist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvXz2xaLNMQ

It's been removed.

Didn't we have this thread already? Regardless, I'm still amused that the RNC use their right to bear arms to shoot themselves in the foot.

Medic! Medic! :p

This thread has the stench of death upon it.