NationStates Jolt Archive


The NS Chronicles

Angels World
26-12-2008, 20:14
NationStates now has [a] newspaper, open to both NS1 and NS2 players. You can view the paper and submit articles here:
http://www.nschronicles.com

There are several categories to choose from when submitting pieces, and we also allow the submition of regional advertisements.

Also, there is an exclusive interview with Sirocco featured on the frontpage. He discusses NationStates and more. So go check it out now!

From the NationStates Webblog:


"26 December 2008
NS Chronicles

One of our players has decided it's high time NationStates had an online newspaper and asked if I'd be willing to give an interview. I obliged, and you can read the full transcript over at www.nschronicles.com

There have been attempts at making a newspaper for NS in the past, but they've all failed. Mostly because most people couldn't be bothered, but also, I think, because of the enormity of the task. There's always something happening, and it'd be impossible to keep abreast of all of it. But I wish them the best of luck! It's always interesting to read what someone else has written about NationStates, and there's not much material out there.

I look forward to reading later editions!
Posted by King Siroc at 1:07 PM"

We are very excited about the project and hope you will be too. Please visit often and send us your pieces. We would love to read them and share them with the NS world! And who knows, you might wind up on the frontpage. So what are you waiting for? Visit the NSC and get to typing!

Official NSC Statement:
"There are currently three of us working on the project though I am the chief administrator of the site. AW is the official spokesperson as the rest of us want to keep our identities closed so we can live in peace within the game.

AW has rattled my cage recently, encouraging me to finish the site. I almost fell off my chair when I first saw our thread in the Jolt forum. It was a complete "OMG" moment as I realized that we had never fully finished the site; and there it was being advertised.

NSC originally began as a small regional project. We just wanted to do it. Then we played with the notion of making it into something that all NS players could use. Then it got shelved as NSC was not the only project on my plate at the time and was intended to be released by the summer of 2009 anyway. Now we will be working overtime to get it up to speed.

There are a number of frontend items we never got to as securing the backend as well as the editors module took priority. There's more coming. What you see today in merely the skeleton of the site.

That being said, we are able to handle submissions and players are encouraged to do just that. The site can not be spammed as all submissions are first previewed for content. Subject matter is only limited to the imagination and creativity of the writers.

Some of the items currently on the table include but are not limited to adding the ability for readers to attach comments to any article, a photo gallery that would allow players to showcase flags, maps, crests, real-life images or anything else they so desire and all within their own personal photo albums. Players will have to first create a free account with the gallery before they will be able to use it so that we can ensure the site remains clean. The editors will have complete control over all content and accounts. The World Assembly page is currently being discussed so that the section can be expanded as well as the Featured Region page. All of this will naturally take time but nonetheless, we will be moving forward with the project with or without articles. It's a challenge thing and we love the challenge the site affords us.

With increased reader feedback we would then be able to tailor the site to meet the demand. I personally love the notion of the site developing due to nothing more than player input.

Anyone with ideas they want to share can leave feedback on the site itself or can contact us at admin@nschronicles.com"
Rymeria
26-12-2008, 20:28
Looks cool.

As a (now former) newspaper guy myself, I'm sure I'll be reading.
Angels World
26-12-2008, 20:34
Thanks.
Wilgrove
26-12-2008, 20:45
Five bucks says it'll be used for SPAM.
Angels World
26-12-2008, 20:49
I assure you, the site won't be used for spam. All submissions are reviewed before being posted. :)
Dyakovo
26-12-2008, 21:04
I assure you, the site won't be used for spam. All submissions are reviewed before being posted. :)

*Wonders how he can get on review panel*
(too allow it to be used for spam)
Rambhutan
26-12-2008, 21:37
Can I be the first to say I am appalled by its obvious liberal bias
Yootopia
26-12-2008, 21:43
Hopefully you won't be featuring the kind of piss-poor writing that goes on in the RP sections. Because that shit is just horrid to read.
Conserative Morality
26-12-2008, 21:48
I assure you, the site won't be used for spam. All submissions are reviewed before being posted. :)

Reviewed by the spammers themselves! :eek2:
Conserative Morality
26-12-2008, 21:49
Hopefully you won't be featuring the kind of piss-poor writing that goes on in the RP sections. Because that shit is just horrid to read.

Hey, as an IIer, I take offense to that remark!

...

Oh God, who am I kidding? *Crawls into a corner and cries*:tongue:
Yootopia
26-12-2008, 21:50
Hey, as an IIer, I take offense to that remark!
Quite.

Anyway, best of luck with the paper, hope it's a worthwhile read and all that.
Angels World
26-12-2008, 22:01
Thanks for the well wishes.

May I ask what you mean by its "obvious liberal bias?" The paper is independent of any views held by me or anyone else. It was created for the benefit of the community; not to pedal my own personal views.
Rambhutan
26-12-2008, 22:07
Thanks for the well wishes.

May I ask what you mean by its "obvious liberal bias?" The paper is independent of any views held by me or anyone else. It was created for the benefit of the community; not to pedal my own personal views.

Just teasing, good luck with it
Angels World
26-12-2008, 22:13
Oh. :)
Sirocco
27-12-2008, 00:30
I'd just like to point out to everyone that this isn't official. Neither OMAC, Max Barry, or the mods have anything to do with this.

I'm not saying we don't like it (I think it's a great idea), but we don't want anyone thinking we're officially associated with it.
Ashmoria
27-12-2008, 00:33
what sort of day to day reporting do y'all intend to have in this newspaper?
Anti-Social Darwinism
27-12-2008, 00:52
I saw the title of the thread and the name of the author and thought I was going to be transported to a fantasy world with witches and talking animals ... oh wait ... never mind.
Pure Metal
27-12-2008, 01:16
i wanna write something, but have absolutely nothing of any interest to write about. my NS article would read something like...

"today i spammed. then i got into a pointless debate with someone many thousands of miles away, got annoyed, had a cup of tea and got on with my life. later i came back and spammed a bit more. what a great day http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2226/smileis1.gif
tomorrow's outlook: more of the same!"
Angels World
27-12-2008, 01:54
It depends on what is submitted. We want this to be a community effort; as we recieve pieces they will be posted to the site if they are real and not spam or offensive. Our definition of offensive is explicit language, sexually explicit content, etc. We also intend to seek out interviews and write articles and editorials ourselves. :) In other words, NS controls what the NSC reports basicly.

And I want to second what Sirocco said. I don't want to give anyone the impression that I was insinuating the mods or anyone affiliated with NS is tied to this. I just thought it would be interesting to interview Sirocco and he accepted. Simple as that. This is an independent effort.

And lol about the witches and things. No one has ever said that about my nation name before. :D
Katganistan
27-12-2008, 02:20
Not to be a wet blanket....

This is not an "official" newspaper for NS and NS2. I don't have a problem with an NS newspaper, though I can't speak for the admin, but it does need to be understood that it's not an official part of the game.
Ashmoria
27-12-2008, 02:24
It depends on what is submitted. We want this to be a community effort; as we recieve pieces they will be posted to the site if they are real and not spam or offensive. Our definition of offensive is explicit language, sexually explicit content, etc. We also intend to seek out interviews and write articles and editorials ourselves. :) In other words, NS controls what the NSC reports basicly.

And I want to second what Sirocco said. I don't want to give anyone the impression that I was insinuating the mods or anyone affiliated with NS is tied to this. I just thought it would be interesting to interview Sirocco and he accepted. Simple as that. This is an independent effort.

And lol about the witches and things. No one has ever said that about my nation name before. :D
no really what kind of articles are you envisioning? news articles on the happenings in the world assembly? editorials on current role playing?

what?
Rymeria
27-12-2008, 02:30
Hopefully you won't be featuring the kind of piss-poor writing that goes on in the RP sections. Because that shit is just horrid to read.

Examples?

Let's see some of your brilliant writing Mr. Norman Mailer!
Ardchoille
27-12-2008, 02:48
Good idea to go offsite. I've seen previous attempts curl up and die in II and NS (circulation probs).

The sub-editing's not too bad, either -- for an online publication, that is :tongue: [/HARD-COPY SNOBBERY].

I saw some earlier good efforts become tedious to read because they ended up being concentrated on a small group of RPing nations. One of the problems with wholly player-generated content, I guess.

If you're into being an active editor, generating stories by asking people to write 'em, you might have a wider spread (and hence a longer life).

Some ideas (no, I'm not offering to write 'em):

What the hell does NS Draftroom do? (Interview with Draftroom longtimer).

Does the picture tell the story? (Contrasting interviews -- posters who provide pics of their RP characters, those who work from a pic but stick to words, those who don't have any clear idea of the character's physical attributes.)

It's easy, I just ... (posters give away the tricks of their trade: how they made that handwritten missive/impressive coat of arms, whether PhotoShop is too much trouble, good freebies, how to stop pics exploding across the screen, what makes a good icon -- could be a simple weekly Q&A column).

Background Music (no, seriously, there's loads of music in posters' sigs. Any one style/musician/group dominate? What's the content -- inspirational, cynical, moralistic, satirical? Does it fit the poster's online persona, or is it a contrast? What's the vintage?) Could be a Quote/Unquote offshoot of this, too, for what other stuff is sigged.

Under the Influence Some invaders/defenders say Influence killed the game. But they're still around, and they're doing something out there ... (interview)

Is There a Doctor in the House? Yes, there is. We've also got a professional archaeologist, a rabble of teachers and journos, more lawyers than any sane person could want to see in one place, a couple of engineers, military folk, scientists of various kinds, a translator, sundry McJob holders and a clown -- or so we/they say. Based on the efforts of whoever has the time and inclination to trawl through the archives, what do NSers (say they) do for a crust?

Liberal Bias in International Bodies: or, How the Hippies Are Taking Over the WA A title just for certain friendly in-game opponents, but there could be a story in what, if any, general tenor the WA resolutions have.

Some of these sound like threads that have already been in various forums. Sure. So ... borrow ... them. It's not bare-faced robbery, it's, um, promoting debate in a wider audience.
Angels World
27-12-2008, 02:59
no really what kind of articles are you envisioning? news articles on the happenings in the world assembly? editorials on current role playing?

what?

Well, I am hoping we have a wide variety of articles. It would be nice to have news items posted on current roleplays. For example, say Ashmoria has an earthquake and you decide to create a roleplay about it. Then you could post news articles on the earthquake if you wanted to. Also, nations can also submit pieces pertaining to real world events such as commentaries.
One-O-One
27-12-2008, 03:02
Can I be the first to say I am appalled by its obvious liberal bias

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

:tongue:
Angels World
27-12-2008, 03:06
Good idea to go offsite. I've seen previous attempts curl up and die in II and NS (circulation probs).

The sub-editing's not too bad, either -- for an online publication, that is :tongue: [/HARD-COPY SNOBBERY].

I saw some earlier good efforts become tedious to read because they ended up being concentrated on a small group of RPing nations. One of the problems with wholly player-generated content, I guess.

If you're into being an active editor, generating stories by asking people to write 'em, you might have a wider spread (and hence a longer life).

Some ideas (no, I'm not offering to write 'em):

What the hell does NS Draftroom do? (Interview with Draftroom longtimer).

Does the picture tell the story? (Contrasting interviews -- posters who provide pics of their RP characters, those who work from a pic but stick to words, those who don't have any clear idea of the character's physical attributes.)

It's easy, I just ... (posters give away the tricks of their trade: how they made that handwritten missive/impressive coat of arms, whether PhotoShop is too much trouble, good freebies, how to stop pics exploding across the screen, what makes a good icon -- could be a simple weekly Q&A column).

Background Music (no, seriously, there's loads of music in posters' sigs. Any one style/musician/group dominate? What's the content -- inspirational, cynical, moralistic, satirical? Does it fit the poster's online persona, or is it a contrast? What's the vintage?) Could be a Quote/Unquote offshoot of this, too, for what other stuff is sigged.

Under the Influence Some invaders/defenders say Influence killed the game. But they're still around, and they're doing something out there ... (interview)

Is There a Doctor in the House? Yes, there is. We've also got a professional archaeologist, a rabble of teachers and journos, more lawyers than any sane person could want to see in one place, a couple of engineers, military folk, scientists of various kinds, a translator, sundry McJob holders and a clown -- or so we/they say. Based on the efforts of whoever has the time and inclination to trawl through the archives, what do NSers (say they) do for a crust?

Liberal Bias in International Bodies: or, How the Hippies Are Taking Over the WA A title just for certain friendly in-game opponents, but there could be a story in what, if any, general tenor the WA resolutions have.

Some of these sound like threads that have already been in various forums. Sure. So ... borrow ... them. It's not bare-faced robbery, it's, um, promoting debate in a wider audience.

Thanks for the advice. :) It's appreciated.
Angels World
27-12-2008, 07:52
(bumping topic)
Call to power
27-12-2008, 10:49
sounds like too much work if you ask me like one of those hobbies that actually becomes a job (I.I basically)

There's always something happening

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7637/liesid3.th.jpg

SNIP

SNIP

its far too late for that now we will only judge NS by the official newspaper and nothing else.

what sort of day to day reporting do y'all intend to have in this newspaper?

I don't care as I will be flicking straight to the cartoons section :)

SNIP

what was that? a cartoon strip on the life and times of Pure Metal complete with a side story on the rise and fall of the surreal metal-space-pop-garage band Chemical Maiden! :eek2:

Background Music

aka what was playing in a biker bar 20 years ago :p
Emporer Pudu
27-12-2008, 18:31
Examples?

Let's see some of your brilliant writing Mr. Norman Mailer!

He's fled, because it's easier to mock people than actually show them up.
Angels World
27-12-2008, 20:50
It only becomes work if you let it be. This can be a fun thing that will add to NationStates and NS2.
Ardchoille
27-12-2008, 22:57
You do realise, though, that it may make you into an Editor?

Really Good Editors(TM) are bitter, twisted, cynical, emotionally retarded leeches who are totally unreliable. They are also idealistic, inspirational, honourable, generous, warm and blessed with a crazy sense of humour. Plus, they work 48 hours in one day, every day. If they drink, they shouldn't, and if they don't, they should.

Is this really where you want to go?:D
Angels World
29-12-2008, 02:13
Lol. I love editing and I am a workaholic. So I wouldn't mind. Also, there is a team of editors working at the NSC and we are quite prepared to handle as many submissions that are thrown at us.
The Fedral Union
29-12-2008, 02:18
Really nice ! is it for both FT and MT? :P
Belschaft
29-12-2008, 02:26
The papers a bit crappy right now. Looks pretty though, but just needs more stuff. Currently it's slightly less informative than the Mail.
The Fedral Union
29-12-2008, 02:28
Well I'd hope its just not meant for modern tech, us future tech players had things to add to.
Angels World
29-12-2008, 03:40
No, it's for all forms of roleplay. We have no restrictions there.

Yes, the paper is definitely lacking in content. But it takes writers to add content. :) And we can't do it by ourselves, it would make things rather boring and to monotone. We need variety, and a wide range of contributors would go a long way to improving the paper.
Dyakovo
29-12-2008, 03:43
FT and Mt? Could you tell me what that is. Is that technology?

FT = Future Tech
MT = Modern Tech

I think...
Conserative Morality
29-12-2008, 03:47
FT = Future Tech
MT = Modern Tech

I think...

You sir, are correct.
Dyakovo
29-12-2008, 03:52
You sir, are correct.

I usually am...
;) :p
Angels World
29-12-2008, 04:01
Thanks.
Chazakain
29-12-2008, 04:29
don't forget
PMT= Post Modern Tech(generally no space ships but almost everything else)
PT=Past tech

hmm an ask abby type of deal would be pretty cool that where a noobie asks a question or two and someone knowledgeable answers it or a define common terms deal that defines a term that is tossed out fairly regular is defined per "newspaper"
Angels World
29-12-2008, 04:44
Thanks for the definitions. :)

You are the second one to suggest something of this type, so we will implement it. Now the question becomes: how often do you guys think the Q. & A. be updated?
Angels World
29-12-2008, 06:22
The first post of the thread has now been updated with more details on the NSC. Hope the info is interesting and helpful. :)
Dyakovo
29-12-2008, 06:27
The first post of the thread has now been updated with more details on the NSC. Hope the info is interesting and helpful. :)

Wow, you expect us to go all the way back to the beginning? You sir are an inconsiderate bastard. ;)
Angels World
30-12-2008, 01:55
(bumping thread)
Angels World
30-12-2008, 01:58
I'm sorry. Here's what I added to the first post:


Official NSC Statement:
"There are currently three of us working on the project though I am the chief administrator of the site. AW is the official spokesperson as the rest of us want to keep our identities closed so we can live in peace within the game.

AW has rattled my cage recently, encouraging me to finish the site. I almost fell off my chair when I first saw our thread in the Jolt forum. It was a complete "OMG" moment as I realized that we had never fully finished the site; and there it was being advertised.

NSC originally began as a small regional project. We just wanted to do it. Then we played with the notion of making it into something that all NS players could use. Then it got shelved as NSC was not the only project on my plate at the time and was intended to be released by the summer of 2009 anyway. Now we will be working overtime to get it up to speed.

There are a number of frontend items we never got to as securing the backend as well as the editors module took priority. There's more coming. What you see today in merely the skeleton of the site.

That being said, we are able to handle submissions and players are encouraged to do just that. The site can not be spammed as all submissions are first previewed for content. Subject matter is only limited to the imagination and creativity of the writers.

Some of the items currently on the table include but are not limited to adding the ability for readers to attach comments to any article, a photo gallery that would allow players to showcase flags, maps, crests, real-life images or anything else they so desire and all within their own personal photo albums. Players will have to first create a free account with the gallery before they will be able to use it so that we can ensure the site remains clean. The editors will have complete control over all content and accounts. The World Assembly page is currently being discussed so that the section can be expanded as well as the Featured Region page. All of this will naturally take time but nonetheless, we will be moving forward with the project with or without articles. It's a challenge thing and we love the challenge the site affords us.

With increased reader feedback we would then be able to tailor the site to meet the demand. I personally love the notion of the site developing due to nothing more than player input.

Anyone with ideas they want to share can leave feedback on the site itself or can contact us at admin@nschronicles.com"
Reploid Productions
30-12-2008, 02:04
I'm pretty sure if you asked nicely that you could get a lot of current and maybe retired (assuming they're still active as players) mods to do interviews ;) Don't think we can get you Max Barry though. :p
Ashmoria
30-12-2008, 02:28
i couldnt give less of a fuck about the goings on in the other forums of nationstates but i am willing to give some time to discussing using photoshop (i have ps6) to alter photos, resize for avatars, or anything else that photoshop might be good for here.

if you have any thought to having that in your paper, let me know.
Dyakovo
30-12-2008, 03:04
I'm sorry. Here's what I added to the first post:


Official NSC Statement:
"There are currently three of us working on the project though I am the chief administrator of the site. AW is the official spokesperson as the rest of us want to keep our identities closed so we can live in peace within the game.

AW has rattled my cage recently, encouraging me to finish the site. I almost fell off my chair when I first saw our thread in the Jolt forum. It was a complete "OMG" moment as I realized that we had never fully finished the site; and there it was being advertised.

NSC originally began as a small regional project. We just wanted to do it. Then we played with the notion of making it into something that all NS players could use. Then it got shelved as NSC was not the only project on my plate at the time and was intended to be released by the summer of 2009 anyway. Now we will be working overtime to get it up to speed.

There are a number of frontend items we never got to as securing the backend as well as the editors module took priority. There's more coming. What you see today in merely the skeleton of the site.

That being said, we are able to handle submissions and players are encouraged to do just that. The site can not be spammed as all submissions are first previewed for content. Subject matter is only limited to the imagination and creativity of the writers.

Some of the items currently on the table include but are not limited to adding the ability for readers to attach comments to any article, a photo gallery that would allow players to showcase flags, maps, crests, real-life images or anything else they so desire and all within their own personal photo albums. Players will have to first create a free account with the gallery before they will be able to use it so that we can ensure the site remains clean. The editors will have complete control over all content and accounts. The World Assembly page is currently being discussed so that the section can be expanded as well as the Featured Region page. All of this will naturally take time but nonetheless, we will be moving forward with the project with or without articles. It's a challenge thing and we love the challenge the site affords us.

With increased reader feedback we would then be able to tailor the site to meet the demand. I personally love the notion of the site developing due to nothing more than player input.

Anyone with ideas they want to share can leave feedback on the site itself or can contact us at admin@nschronicles.com"
I was being facetious...
Ardchoille
30-12-2008, 03:38
I was being facetious...

So write the humour column!:tongue:

Angels World, you might be able to find someone willing to draw you a web comic, too. You could start by checking the current General thread on web comics to see if anyone mentions having ideas that way.
Angels World
31-12-2008, 03:32
i couldnt give less of a fuck about the goings on in the other forums of nationstates but i am willing to give some time to discussing using photoshop (i have ps6) to alter photos, resize for avatars, or anything else that photoshop might be good for here.

if you have any thought to having that in your paper, let me know.

That would be great.
Angels World
31-12-2008, 03:36
Thanks for the tips you guys. We will certainly look into using them. :)
Ashmoria
31-12-2008, 04:04
That would be great.
oh well then

are y'all having a staff meeting or something so that i can figure out how to proceed?
Angels World
02-01-2009, 07:49
(bumping topic)
Angels World
02-01-2009, 07:51
All you have to do once your piece is finished is go to the NSC website and click "Submit Article." Then fill out the form and hit "Submit." Your piece will then be looked over and posted in the appropriate section.
Angels World
02-01-2009, 21:38
(bumping topic)
Mad hatters in jeans
02-01-2009, 21:43
I'm pretty sure if you asked nicely that you could get a lot of current and maybe retired (assuming they're still active as players) mods to do interviews ;) Don't think we can get you Max Barry though. :p

why can't Maxmiester do the interviews?
It's his own site therefore he knows what it's there for and how it's supposed to work.
Ashmoria
03-01-2009, 00:54
All you have to do once your piece is finished is go to the NSC website and click "Submit Article." Then fill out the form and hit "Submit." Your piece will then be looked over and posted in the appropriate section.
no thats just not happening.

im not interested in having a how-to blog on your site.

if thats what you are going for, i withdraw my interest.
Angels World
03-01-2009, 05:22
Ashmoria, I must be misunderstanding your question. The site is not a how-to blog nor is it going to be. It is a NationStates newspaper.

Could you please tell me what you want to know. I am a bit confused. :)
Angels World
05-01-2009, 21:33
To view the new photo gallery for the NSC visit:
http://www.nschronicles.com/reader_uploads/
Ardchoille
05-01-2009, 23:10
Hey, a webcomic! And based on the WA -- who'da thunk it! Nice going, Unibot.

Looking forward to how you draw the next wave of defenestrations. Or custard pie debating.