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Does anyone here besides me recall an "explosive" situation that involved a chained criminal and a hacksaw? A scene which appeared at the end of Mad Max, and later in Watchmen?

Does it matter? It probably predates even those two works. Nothing new under the sun, Horatio.

It's a bit of a trope in literature and film, likely stemming from the practice of leg traps where the animal had the choice of either gnawing through its own leg or starving to death. It is possible, however, that Moore consciously or otherwise picked up on Mad Max's amendment to the concept.

Does it matter? It probably predates even those two works. Nothing new under the sun, Horatio.

The idea is probably very old; still, the details: what with a nasty criminal, an insane crime fighter, hand-cuffs, hacksaw, explosion--one wonders.

Then again, I suppose it is possible that Rorschach had seen Mad Max earlier, and the idea was floating about in his unconscious.

alan who?

hell, I predate those two works and the concept was damd sure around before either of them. wasn't it used in one of those spagetti westerns from the mid 60s? but i mean, aside from that, i'm pretty sure it was used in story telling long before even there were movies. i would guess from probably around the time explosives were invented.

alan who?

The man who showed us that comic books can be great literature, full of metaphors, social commentary, and psychological depth and realism.

The man who showed us that comic books can be great literature, full of metaphors, social commentary, and psychological depth and realism.

...Scott Lobdell?

*ducks apple cores*

The man who showed us that comic books can be great literature, full of metaphors, social commentary, and psychological depth and realism.

Wendy Pini? Dave Sim? Terry Moore? Jeff Smith?

Just saying, there were others who accomplished those things.

Who cares?

Wendy Pini? Dave Sim? Terry Moore? Jeff Smith?

Just saying, there were others who accomplished those things.

Yes--but for a majority of readers, Moore introduced the concept.

Though there was a heavier-than-air flying-machine that worked, albeit, not to a great extent, before them, the Wright brothers still receive recognition as inventors of such a craft.

Does anyone here besides me recall an "explosive" situation that involved a chained criminal and a hacksaw? A scene which appeared at the end of Mad Max, and later in Watchmen?

Loved that scene in Mad Max, didn't know it was in Watchmen. Should check that out then.

Yes--but for a majority of readers, Moore introduced the concept.

Though there was a heavier-than-air flying-machine that worked, albeit, not to a great extent, before them, the Wright brothers still receive recognition as inventors of such a craft.

No. ElfQuest (Pini) was more widely read, and was introduced in 1978.

Nice justification, but it's irrelevant.

No. ElfQuest (Pini) was more widely read, and was introduced in 1978.

Nice justification, but it's irrelevant.

I was not under the impression that ElfQuest had a greater following than Watchmen (which I would not say was the only one of Alan Moore great works, just his most popular). However, I was actually referring more to the super-hero comics than sci-fi/fantasy (one could technically call super-hero stories science fiction, but I would not); yet since the subject was comic books in general, I concede the argument.