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Jayson Blair School of Journalism

Hotwife
22-12-2008, 21:05
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D957V4EO0&show_article=1

NY Times published fake letter from Paris mayor
Dec 22 03:57 PM US/Eastern
By ANN LEVIN
Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK (AP) - The New York Times admitted Monday it published a fake letter purportedly from the mayor of Paris criticizing Caroline Kennedy's Senate bid as "appalling" and "not very democratic."

"What title has Ms. Kennedy to pretend to Hillary Clinton's seat?" the letter in Monday's editions said. "We French can only see a dynastic move of the vanishing Kennedy clan in the very country of the Bill of Rights. It is both surprising and appalling."

In an editor's note posted Monday on its Web site, the Times said the letter signed by Paris Mayor Bertrand Delanoe should not have been published because it violated the paper's standards and procedures.

"We have already expressed our regrets to Mr. Delanoe's office and we are now doing the same to you, our readers," the Times said.

The New York Times used to be a pillar of journalistic integrity - now it seems that they'll print just about anything - and instead of catching themselves at it, someone else catches them, and they have to print a retraction.

"All the news that's fit to print" seems to have turned into "If it fits on the page, we'll print it".

From the Jayson Blair incident, through the Judith Miller WMD in Iraq incident, and moving incident by incident to this latest one, it amazes me that the NYT could conceivably considered a valid source - especially on information that comes from high places or inside sources.

By no means is the NYT alone in this - but it seems to have fallen the furthest.

Is the demand for immediacy in news now destroying journalism? Is the demand to get the hot, inside story out on the Internet, out on the street before the bloggers break the story - is that demand driving the tradition of journalism into the corner?

Or is the NYT just lazy?
No Names Left Damn It
22-12-2008, 21:06
Lazy.
The Cat-Tribe
22-12-2008, 21:10
Let me get this straight: was this letter published as a letter to the editor?
Hotwife
22-12-2008, 21:13
Let me get this straight: was this letter published as a letter to the editor?

Yes, but the Times believed it was real, and the editor put it under that name.

It's one thing to publish a letter to the editor from some common, unknown person.

It's another to ascribe the letter to the mayor of Paris, France.
The Cat-Tribe
22-12-2008, 21:18
Yes, but the Times believed it was real, and the editor put it under that name.

It's one thing to publish a letter to the editor from some common, unknown person.

It's another to ascribe the letter to the mayor of Paris, France.

Failing to adequately verify the authenticity of a letter to the editor is bad (as the NYT has admitted), but it is hardly Jayson Blair territory.

You get a B+ for effort, but a C- for substance.
Wilgrove
22-12-2008, 21:22
What is the Jayson Blair incident?
Cannot think of a name
22-12-2008, 21:26
You get a B+ for effort, but a C- for substance.

This will improve his overall average.
Ashmoria
22-12-2008, 21:28
shit happens

the important thing is to find and admit the error.
Khadgar
22-12-2008, 21:30
What is the Jayson Blair incident?

If I remember my pseudo-scandals correctly Blair was embellishing or making up stories whole cloth.
Londim
22-12-2008, 21:31
If some papers think they can get away with it then they will print it. It's a sad affair of journalism at the moment, steering away from the so called Watchdog that it used to be. Very few journalists are now actually going for the core of the story, the majority write stuff that will get them noticed.
Khadgar
22-12-2008, 21:33
If some papers think they can get away with it then they will print it. It's a sad affair of journalism at the moment, steering away from the so called Watchdog that it used to be. Very few journalists are now actually going for the core of the story, the majority write stuff that will get them noticed.

Most major news outlets just take AP stories and re-write them. A job done admirably well by a moderately skilled parrot.
Londim
22-12-2008, 21:36
Most major news outlets just take AP stories and re-write them. A job done admirably well by a moderately skilled parrot.

This also. And here I am wanting to be a journalist...
CthulhuFhtagn
22-12-2008, 21:38
Most major news outlets just take AP stories and re-write them. A job done admirably well by a moderately skilled parrot.

Fuck, half the time they don't even bother rewriting them, they just pay the AP for the rights to print the story verbatim.
Korarchaeota
22-12-2008, 22:04
Eh, je m'en fiche. Yes, I do think the NYT has slipped in quality over the years, but it's still better than most US-based news sources. Besides, it's a Senate seat representing me...why would I care what someone outside of New York thinks anyway? A fake editorial from the governor, yes, that would bother me more.
Hotwife
22-12-2008, 22:15
Eh, je m'en fiche. Yes, I do think the NYT has slipped in quality over the years, but it's still better than most US-based news sources. Besides, it's a Senate seat representing me...why would I care what someone outside of New York thinks anyway? A fake editorial from the governor, yes, that would bother me more.

**pens letter**

I know they'll print it...
Gravlen
22-12-2008, 22:20
Does the printing of a letter to the editor count as "Journalism"?