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Why do Warner Bros have to be such greedy fatheads

Dimesa
22-12-2008, 05:17
I bought the Dork Knight DVD, there were about 20 different versions and I bought the cheapest, no special features, no commentary, just the plain movie with chapters. Here's the thing, the video quality is one of those crap types that I usually don't see, bad artifacts, way more noticeable on a computer screen than regular TV, but it's definite crap artifacting that goes with too low bitrate video. And if someone has to be an ass and suggest I bought a bootleg, don't bother. Unless Target is selling bootlegs, it's not a bootleg.

I notice the DVD has some kind of crud written as some kind of protection against copying; at least I'm assuming it does since the pure video data of the movie is about 6.8GB (binary), the movie is about 2.5 hours long, I have another movie which is 7.0GB and is only 2hrs long. I'm sure they filled up the disk with garbage for the little protection schemes, and naturally they have to cut down the video bitrate. A DL DVD holds about 8.5GB, the crappy little 1 minute previews aren't big enough to fill this up. They took it out on the movie so they can put their protection scheme in. Silly motherlovers. What crap is this? Or are they just punishing the cheap for not paying twice or more for the "deluxe" edition DVDs? Or is it simply their artificial, assholey push for blewray? They can go suck a nut either way.
Neo Art
22-12-2008, 05:18
blog? You get one?
Knights of Liberty
22-12-2008, 05:19
I have the DVD, it was $15, and I have noticed none of the problems you speak of. I suggest you exchange it.
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 05:21
I have the DVD, it was $15, and I have noticed none of the problems you speak of. I suggest you exchange it.

You are not perceptive, it seems. Exchanging it would make no difference.
Gun Manufacturers
22-12-2008, 05:22
I bought the Dork Knight DVD, there were about 20 different versions and I bought the cheapest, no special features, no commentary, just the plain movie with chapters. Here's the thing, the video quality is one of those crap types that I usually don't see, bad artifacts, way more noticeable on a computer screen than regular TV, but it's definite crap artifacting that goes with too low bitrate video. And if someone has to be an ass and suggest I bought a bootleg, don't bother. Unless Target is selling bootlegs, it's not a bootleg.

I notice the DVD has some kind of crud written as some kind of protection against copying; at least I'm assuming it does since the pure video data of the movie is about 6.8GB (binary), the movie is about 2.5 hours long, I have another movie which is 7.0GB and is only 2hrs long. I'm sure they filled up the disk with garbage for the little protection schemes, and naturally they have to cut down the video bitrate. A DL DVD holds about 8.5GB, the crappy little 1 minute previews aren't big enough to fill this up. They took it out on the movie so they can put their protection scheme in. Silly motherlovers. What crap is this? Or are they just punishing the cheap for not paying twice or more for the "deluxe" edition DVDs? Or is it simply their artificial, assholey push for blewray? They can go suck a nut either way.

You probably got a flawed DVD. Exchange it, and enjoy the movie.
Knights of Liberty
22-12-2008, 05:22
You are not perceptive, it seems. Exchanging it would make no difference.

I just skimmed your OP because it was, frankly, boring, whiney, and bloggy.
Jocabia
22-12-2008, 05:26
I bought the Dork Knight DVD, there were about 20 different versions and I bought the cheapest, no special features, no commentary, just the plain movie with chapters. Here's the thing, the video quality is one of those crap types that I usually don't see, bad artifacts, way more noticeable on a computer screen than regular TV, but it's definite crap artifacting that goes with too low bitrate video. And if someone has to be an ass and suggest I bought a bootleg, don't bother. Unless Target is selling bootlegs, it's not a bootleg.

I notice the DVD has some kind of crud written as some kind of protection against copying; at least I'm assuming it does since the pure video data of the movie is about 6.8GB (binary), the movie is about 2.5 hours long, I have another movie which is 7.0GB and is only 2hrs long. I'm sure they filled up the disk with garbage for the little protection schemes, and naturally they have to cut down the video bitrate. A DL DVD holds about 8.5GB, the crappy little 1 minute previews aren't big enough to fill this up. They took it out on the movie so they can put their protection scheme in. Silly motherlovers. What crap is this? Or are they just punishing the cheap for not paying twice or more for the "deluxe" edition DVDs? Or is it simply their artificial, assholey push for blewray? They can go suck a nut either way.

There are several setups that could cause your video to display artifacts caused by the copy protection. They are avoidable. There is a reason why others with the same movie do not experience those artifacts. You've not offered enough information for us to be able to tell you what it is. What is clear is that never everyone is experiencing what you are and there is something causing your problem that does not cause a problem for others.
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2008, 05:29
I notice that I am not the only one with a naked running individual as an avatar. :)
Minoriteeburg
22-12-2008, 05:31
I notice that I am not the only one with a naked running individual as an avatar. :)

I noticed I am the only one with chewie grabbin leia's tit in their avatar.

It makes me proud.
Knights of Liberty
22-12-2008, 05:31
I notice that I am not the only one with a naked running individual as an avatar. :)

How can you see it? Jocobia's is invisible.
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 05:37
For a moment, let's put aside the speculation, absurd comments about a flawed DVD that I should exchange, copy protection affecting the video and ironic whines about whining.

Look at this:

http://i44.tinypic.com/28ji62f.png

You mean to tell me you find this acceptable? Is your DVD different? Is it the cheapest version? This is not what DL DVD is supposed to look like. And no answers as to my size comparisons above? Just ~2GB mysteriously unused on the DVD?
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2008, 05:38
How can you see it? Jocobia's is invisible.

It is a little known fact that a clown's red nose contains, in addition to a honker, a miniaturized sophisticated infrared sensor system. That is why we are so skilled at sneaking up on our prey as they sleep soundly in their darkened houses. Pleasant dreams. ;)
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2008, 05:39
For a moment, let's put aside the speculation, absurd comments about a flawed DVD that I should exchange, copy protection affecting the video and ironic whines about whining.

Look at this:

http://i44.tinypic.com/28ji62f.png

You mean to tell me you find this acceptable? Is your DVD different? Is it the cheapest version? This is not what DL DVD is supposed to look like. And no answers as to my size comparisons above? Just ~2GB mysteriously unused on the DVD?

:eek: Those yellow circles are horrible! No wonder you're so upset. :tongue:
Minoriteeburg
22-12-2008, 05:41
It is a little known fact that a clown's red nose contains, in addition to a honker, a miniaturized sophisticated infrared sensor system. That is why we are so skilled at sneaking up on our prey as they sleep soundly in their darkened houses. Pleasant dreams. ;)

Just one more reason to hate clowns.
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 05:44
:eek: Those yellow circles are horrible! No wonder you're so upset. :tongue:

Ok, so you don't see the artifacts, or you're just a spamming doof. Either way, point made.

Flawed DVD, copy protection, haha 'fraid not.
(well, I mean, it looks like copy protection to me, indeed, as I've stated, video is shrunk to accommodate some kind of junk on the dvd, not in the way someone mentioned)
Lunatic Goofballs
22-12-2008, 05:47
Ok, so you don't see the artifacts, or you're just a spamming doof.

Can't it be both?
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 05:49
Can't it be both?

No. You lose!
SaintB
22-12-2008, 05:50
Ok, so you don't see the artifacts, or you're just a spamming doof. Either way, point made.

Flawed DVD, copy protection, haha 'fraid not.
(well, I mean, it looks like copy protection to me, indeed, as I've stated, video is shrunk to accommodate some kind of junk on the dvd, not in the way someone mentioned)

He's a Goof, not a Doof. A Doof implies stupidity.

And if you are trying to copy the DvD to your computer than frankly, its not surprising why you are having these problems.
Minoriteeburg
22-12-2008, 05:50
No. You lose!

Why can't it be both?
Sarkhaan
22-12-2008, 05:50
For a moment, let's put aside the speculation, absurd comments about a flawed DVD that I should exchange, copy protection affecting the video and ironic whines about whining.

Look at this:

[img]http://i44.tinypic.com/28ji62f.png

You mean to tell me you find this acceptable? Is your DVD different? Is it the cheapest version? This is not what DL DVD is supposed to look like. And no answers as to my size comparisons above? Just ~2GB mysteriously unused on the DVD?
.... o.0
Minoriteeburg
22-12-2008, 05:51
.... o.0

I'm glad I am not the only one who had no idea what's goin' on....
Knights of Liberty
22-12-2008, 05:53
Ok, so you don't see the artifacts, or you're just a spamming doof. Either way, point made.

Flawed DVD, copy protection, haha 'fraid not.
(well, I mean, it looks like copy protection to me, indeed, as I've stated, video is shrunk to accommodate some kind of junk on the dvd, not in the way someone mentioned)

I see no such issues with mine. I just watched the scene, for good measure.

By the way, I suggest not snapping at people who dont feel like joining you in your angsty whining. It makes you look more childish.
The South Islands
22-12-2008, 05:54
This thread is funneh.
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 05:55
He's a Goof, not a Doof. A Doof implies stupidity.

And if you are trying to copy the DvD to your computer than frankly, its not surprising why you are having these problems.

o_0 indeed, what does this have to do with anything? It's not surprising? Why not? I scanned the data for the size, did that blow up the DVD, or anger the DVD god? I'm scared now, please show me your obvious, wise guidance. :rolleyes:
Sarkhaan
22-12-2008, 05:56
This thread is funneh.

so's your mom.

...


sorry.
Minoriteeburg
22-12-2008, 05:57
so's your mom.

...


sorry.

completely off topic....but still so fuckin' funny.
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 05:58
I see no such issues with mine. I just watched the scene, for good measure.

By the way, I suggest not snapping at people who dont feel like joining you in your angsty whining. It makes you look more childish.

You're making things up about me, that's more childish imo. Also, ok, you saw your movie, does that mean you do see the artifacts in the snapshot of mine, or not? Post your picture of that same frame, I can tell you what it is. Do you have the same DVD that I mentioned? Is the data size the same? Or will you just dismiss all this and assume you're right?
SaintB
22-12-2008, 05:58
o_0 indeed, what does this have to do with anything? It's not surprising? Why not? I scanned the data for the size, did that blow up the DVD, or anger the DVD god? I'm scared now, please show me your obvious, wise guidance. :rolleyes:

Yes you angered the DvD God, feel his wrath as your entire movie collection decomposes before your very eyes.

I can be a sarcastic asshole too! I bet I can be better at it than you since I make money doing it.

If you don't want to take constructive guidance then shut the hell up before you get yourself in trouble junior.
Knights of Liberty
22-12-2008, 05:59
You're making things up about me, that's more childish imo. Also, ok, you saw your movie, does that mean you do see the artifacts in the snapshot of mine, or not? Post your picture of that same frame, I can tell you what it is. Do you have the same DVD that I mentioned? Is the data size the same? Or will you just dismiss all this and assume you're right?

1. I have the same DVD.
2. I saw the problem on yours, not on mine.
[NS]Fergi America
22-12-2008, 05:59
This is why I'm leery of high-def TV. You probably wouldn't find those flaws very noticeable if you played the movie on a TV/monitor of appropriate quality (ie, cheap--too cheap to display such fine detail). Either go all-high-quality, or all-cheap...either way is better than mixed.

But I know how it sucks to buy something and then find out that you would have gotten better quality if you had just P2P'd it. I went ahead and downloaded a song off of Amazon because I liked it enough that I thought the artist deserved to be paid...and ended up with a crummy POS that sounded like I taped it off the radio!

I was not happy to say the least. It was only $1, but it's the principle. Paid-for stuff is supposed to be better, dammit!

So I sympathize, and Warner sucks. It's kind of funny that in their bid to copy-protect it, they've actually made it more desirable to just download it free...
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 05:59
[something, allegedly]
A winner is you!
Saige Dragon
22-12-2008, 06:03
I don't pay for [a lot of] my movies, therefore I don't have any right to complain about their quality. Problem solved.

edit: This also provides an opportunity to get back at those greedy fatheadsads at Warner Bros.
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 06:03
Fergi America;14325283']This is why I'm leery of high-def TV. You probably wouldn't find those flaws very noticeable if you played the movie on a TV/monitor of appropriate quality (ie, cheap--too cheap to display such fine detail). Either go all-high-quality, or all-cheap...either way is better than mixed.

That would work but I don't have anything to view DVDs other than the PC and its monitor, which is not fancy at all. I mentioned that didn't I? I also checked it on the TV (someone else's setup) and because of the chroma levels, it's of course not as noticeable, but they're definitely there.

But I know how it sucks to buy something and then find out that you would have gotten better quality if you had just P2P'd it. I went ahead and downloaded a song off of Amazon because I liked it enough that I thought the artist deserved to be paid...and ended up with a crummy POS that sounded like I taped it off the radio!

I was not happy to say the least. It was only $1, but it's the principle. Paid-for stuff is supposed to be better, dammit!

So I sympathize, and Warner sucks. It's kind of funny that in their bid to copy-protect it, they've actually made it more desirable to just download it free...

Yeah, screw them. I know Universal are the biggest assholes when it comes to what they call cracking-down-on-piracy, but at least their DVDs aren't technically jacked up like this. My intention is never to pirate anything when I actually buy movies, which I'm fine doing.
Minoriteeburg
22-12-2008, 06:04
I don't pay for [a lot of] my movies, therefore I don't have any right to complain about their quality. Problem solved.

You just can't complain about free.
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 06:09
Too bad free tends to be worse quality, and plain stereo.
Minoriteeburg
22-12-2008, 06:10
Too bad free tends to be worse quality, and plain stereo.

Like i said in the previous post, you can't complain about free.
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 06:18
I'm not complaining about it, just alluding as to why I tend to skip it. If the movie copiers were at least smart about what they're doing, it would be a different story. But no, some dummies are still using xvid and ignoring ac3, not to mention softscaled encodings and no subtitles, or worse yet, encoded in subtitles, in the case of a lot of anime, yuk. Or even worse yet, some dork's site logo crapped all over the video, yuk x 10. It's not even worth the download time to me.
Neo Art
22-12-2008, 06:22
Blog? you has one yet?
Gauntleted Fist
22-12-2008, 06:29
Blog? you has one yet?This one does not think so. http://www.stitchkingdom.com/forum/Smileys/mickey/mellow.gif
Minoriteeburg
22-12-2008, 06:31
This one does not think so. http://www.stitchkingdom.com/forum/Smileys/mickey/mellow.gif

:eek2:

the dreaded mickey smiley!

someone step on it or else I'm getting my gun.
Ardchoille
22-12-2008, 06:34
Dimesa, chill! You've broken one forum rule and are on the verge of breaking another.

The first was your original title. The forum standard is PG-11. We are specially concerned about titles because titles are the first thing seen by young students using NS in class. So keep them clean and bright, right?

The second is the rule against flaming. You've been insultingly dismissive of people who tried to help you and over-reacted to those who just posted feeble jokes. Don't let yourself be irritated into personally insulting another poster, which is flaming (and actionable).

BTW, feeble-joke-posters: don't!
Dimesa
22-12-2008, 06:42
[snip]

It doesn't matter either way, I think the issue in this thread is settled. I gotta tell you though I have just as much fun making strong jokes in response to feeble ones, if you call that difference flaming, I don't agree but it's your prerogative. I'm more into insult comedy than 4channery anyways. :tongue: (<--see, proof right there, smiley)
Ardchoille
22-12-2008, 06:56
Jokes, strong or feeble, are okay. Flaming, not. What we call flaming is described here (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=416023). Mainly, it boils down to: attack the post, not the poster.

But politeness is appreciated, and doesn't cost anything.

Since the issue's sorted, iLock.