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Earlier I was just about to wade into our weekly gun thread (and prove everyone else wrong with a blinding display of logic and wit), but while reading through the thread I just couldn't find the energy to rehash the same arguments yet again.

I don't know if this is a temporary malaise or a permanent disability but it got me wondering, what arguments do you just not bother with beyond posing 'not this shit again' pictures?

The only ones I stopped going to are Wilgrove's whining threads. His others I still dive into. The entire reason I like this so much is because he helps me to think, to question my beliefs, to reconsider my opinions. It's a mental workout. It's fun for me.

I'm up for pretty much anything if it's not already over 20 pages. That's a bit too much homework for me to want to participate, and besides, there's no topic that won't come around again.

The only ones I stopped going to are Wilgrove's whining threads. His others I still dive into. The entire reason I like this so much is because he helps me to think, to question my beliefs, to reconsider my opinions. It's a mental workout. It's fun for me.

They've gotten a lot better since last year - credit where credit's due and all. An award for 'most improved spelling/grammar/syntax/etc.' is probably in order too, if I remember some of the earlier ones correctly. So kudos to Wilgrove. :)

I'll get involved when someone's teaching me something rather than focusing on defending their point of view to the detriment of a decent conversation.

Otherwise, I'll comment here and there, a quip here and there, takes quite a bit to get me really involved, if nothing else, there's better people at it than I.

I will always argue Israel-Palestine. I don't really care about evolution vs creation, as it doesn't matter how I got here. I still serve Christ no matter what. I don't argue gay marriage, because there is nothing to argue about it. I don't argue Iraq, because the only people that agree with it anymore are those too set in their ways to change their mind about the lies the believe. Anything besides those few things, I will be up to debate.

I don't really argue politics with the same gusto/interest that I used to.

Evolution vs Creationism is something I'd rather not touch with an ten foot pole since I don't think Evolution is nessacary counter to the idea god created the univserve and brought forth life. Also religous Debates tend to be one I prefer to avoid since they tend to bring out the fanatics on both sides not to mention the trolls.

Anything involving God and his general achievements or lack thereof.

Anything involving God and his general achievements or lack thereof.

That is a definite no read for me as well.

Most religion threads are boring, and are nothing but the same argument over and over again, "who's belief is better" etc. etc. etc.

Iraq War is #2. Seriously how many times must people debate on the obvious clusterfuck that is the Iraq War?

Anything involving God and his general achievements or lack thereof.

Good call. I guess there are probably a *few* debates I don't want much part of after all. :tongue:

I tend to not get involved in anything anymore. Mostly because it just seems to be the same rubbish over and over.

Current affairs thread are fun though, when they pop up. I always enjoy discussion about the latest coup d'etat, or Somalian hi-jacking.

I don't believe I have ever set foot into a Religious or Abortion-themed thread simply because they are the oldest-of-old and hard to choose a side, respectively.

I tend to pop up in most UN-themed threads, if only to fulfill the obligations of my moniker. Although they tend to become far, far, far too ambiguous very quickly, and hence are becoming quite boring, really.

I'm vaguely amused that "wilgrove threads" seem only SLIGHTLY more popular than creationism and the death penalty.

I'm vaguely amused that "wilgrove threads" seem only SLIGHTLY more popular than creationism and the death penalty.

They're also more popular than Gay Marriage as well.

I am also starting to get tired of Obama threads.

wait for the guy to get in office first!

Evolutionism v. Creationism & Iraq War.

Everybody believes what they believe and I've learned that + stubbornx1000 is equally true for the above topics.

Depends on my mood. Sometimes I'll just completely avoid an evolution vs. creationism debate. Or a religion one. Other times I'll jump in. Usually, I won't read the whole thread on those. They're typically 20+ pages by the time I see them.

Religion threads are interesting if people are quibbling over the details. The existence or non-existence of God has been done to death, and frankly, an internet forum argument doesn't really do justice to its importance.
In fact, I don't post much in debating threads at all. If it's a new, interesting topic I may chime in, but it's a drag reading an entire thread, posting a reply to someone's argument, and then not seeing the reply until the next day, at which point the discussion's moved on and it seems poor thread etiquette to respond.

EDIT: Right now, for example. Here's a thread that was novel enough for me to post in, and now it's stuck. No one has written anything new, and I'm just sitting here refreshing the page and reading my calculus textbook while I wait.

For me I know I really should stop reading any comments attached to an article about religion or Obama (or that lovely combination of 'Obama is a Muslim') because I know full well that a majority of the comments will be complete wastes of time. I also know I shouldn't discuss religion with, well ,just about everyone where I live. And yet I just can't stop. It's just so addicting to argue with them even when I know I'm not going to convince anyone.

It really depends on my mood, although some topics manage to keep me coming back better than others. I almost never get sick of evolution debates, for example, because the opposition in those tends to involve at least one person with entertainingly dumb arguments, whereas I not infrequently can't make it past the first page of gun control threads without getting bored out of my mind.

Nothing involving religion. I only do fair fights, and will not intellectually spar with a metaphorically limbless opponent.

I-P and Iraq wars. Since all the relevant facts about them are known, it boils down purely to "he said - she said".

Others still have a bit of fun left in them.

Earlier I was just about to wade into our weekly gun thread (and prove everyone else wrong with a blinding display of logic and wit), but while reading through the thread I just couldn't find the energy to rehash the same arguments yet again.

I don't know if this is a temporary malaise or a permanent disability but it got me wondering, what arguments do you just not bother with beyond posing 'not this shit again' pictures?

I've always avoided gun control to a degree, and Israel vs. Palestine threads (since both sides disgust me). I no longer involve myself with death penalty threads, not worth my time. Evolution threads I have to be really bored to get involved in, since there's not much I can do if people just don't understand science

threads with lots of big words and stuff

Anything. Nihilism is the shit.

it really depends, recently I just avoid arguments.. I mean debates.

How could the poll not include the abortion issue?

How could the poll not include the abortion issue?

Good question...

Though the next really ugly debate on that subject is going to turn into a thread full of dead baby jokes, mark my words on that.

My original thought was "land wars in Asia".

the only thing i don't get involved in is anything on a personal level, where i can be identified and shot at, or sent off to death camps if it were to come to that.

now of course there's a decending order of things i'm interested in, and the top of my list, the top several, weren't even mentioned in the poll.

i really think anti-environmentalism, and economic incentives for it, are humanity's 'jonestown coolaide', and that guideway based systems propelled by forms of energy that don't involve burning anything make better sense all around then even 'clean' cars, in terms of the real estate consumed for their rights of way, and the impact that has on plant and animal species diversity, and how much the very air we breath depends on that cycle of renewal and its stability.

My original thought was "land wars in Asia".

Or going in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line.

Or going in against a Sicilian, when death is on the line.

Outstanding! I love it when someone gets a second-level reference.

Outstanding! I love it when someone gets a second-level reference.

How could I not? I watch that movie about once a month...

The only ones I stopped going to are Wilgrove's whining threads. His others I still dive into. The entire reason I like this so much is because he helps me to think, to question my beliefs, to reconsider my opinions. It's a mental workout. It's fun for me.

I'm gonna pump *clap* you up!

They've gotten a lot better since last year - credit where credit's due and all. An award for 'most improved spelling/grammar/syntax/etc.' is probably in order too, if I remember some of the earlier ones correctly. So kudos to Wilgrove. :)

Yay I'm loved! :D

I'm vaguely amused that "wilgrove threads" seem only SLIGHTLY more popular than creationism and the death penalty.

They're also more popular than Gay Marriage as well.

Wilgrove; more popular than your gay Orangutan grandmother who was executed by the state in 1977! :D

Meh, as for me the "Christian vs. Everyone else" threads, the abortion threads, the gun threads, the Bush is ebil threads, and bloggy threads.

The last one was tounge in cheek you dolts.:)

How could I not? I watch that movie about once a month...

We all have our addictions.

We all have our addictions.

I still laugh on cue at all the jokes :$

Abortion, also Global Warming.

I still laugh on cue at all the jokes :$

Okay...obsessions.

Meh, as for me the "Christian vs. Everyone else" threads, the abortion threads, the gun threads, the Bush is ebil threads, and bloggy threads. :)

Hmm, know any dead baby jokes? You can help me sink the next abortion thread...

If everyone watched the documentary Lake of Fire, THAT would sink any abortion thread. By making the argument moot.

I rarely post to NSG, as I find the trolling and flamebaiting tedious, not to mention the repeated topics which this poll refers to. Besides, I was raised to keep my opinions to myself unless asked for them.
Occasionally I see a post which I cannot resist replying to.... and then for days afterwards I feel 'unclean'.

Earlier I was just about to wade into our weekly gun thread (and prove everyone else wrong with a blinding display of logic and wit), but while reading through the thread I just couldn't find the energy to rehash the same arguments yet again.

I don't know if this is a temporary malaise or a permanent disability but it got me wondering, what arguments do you just not bother with beyond posing 'not this shit again' pictures?
I generally don't bother to debate gun control, the death penalty, or abortion rights anymore.

I don't bother with popularity contests, when it comes down to it I am a misanthropic bastard.

Hmm, know any dead baby jokes? You can help me sink the next abortion thread...
im pretty sure that will get you (at the least) a stern warning from the moderators.

I don't bother with popularity contests, when it comes down to it I am a misanthropic bastard.

"Misanthropy - the milk of human kindness." :tongue:

Meh...Ill argue damn near anything, from any perspective to this day, lol....

Im gonna have to go to Triple A: Argument Addicts Anonymous....

I think abortion would have been appropriate for this list, too. Does anyone really argue abortion anymore?

It's so divisive.

I think abortion would have been appropriate for this list, too. Does anyone really argue abortion anymore?

It's so divisive.

You have no Idea, lol....People are just so adamant about it down here...

Tell you what though, I actually got in an Eight Hour Argument over whether Facts were actually just Opinions....

Bloody fuckin crazy, lol....

I don't do Incest debates anymore. I had enough of them.

I think abortion would have been appropriate for this list, too. Does anyone really argue abortion anymore?

It's so divisive.

It was a close call, but it got bumped by Wilgrove threads.

I will always argue Israel-Palestine.

I used to. I just can't get up the energy anymore.
I don't argue gay marriage, because there is nothing to argue about it.
Unfortunately, I still argue in every thread about it. I think I should just give up.

Law threads are dull for me, death penalty is okay from time to time(i know contradiction and all that, but i more a theory person than a detail one).

I usually read around, see what catches my attention. Debates usually narrow my point of view.

I don't do Incest debates anymore. I had enough of them.

There's been incest debates on here before? :eek:

There's been incest debates on here before? :eek:

oh yes, they went down some very dark paths.
oh oh, i opened my black box...

I go through phases.

Although the current one of "OMG these people drive me crazy with their bullshit but I just don't have the energy to even be snarky, I'll just sit here and despair over the state of the world" seems to have been going on for forever.

Bleh.

Sex

Are we not all tired of comparing the relative merits of various extretement elimination apertures?

im pretty sure that will get you (at the least) a stern warning from the moderators.

It would in my opinion be worth it. Arguments on abortion threads always pour out into other threads, that and its never anything remotely different. If I can't avoid them, then I will kill them.

Sex

Are we not all tired of comparing the relative merits of various extretement elimination apertures?

Nope.

"Misanthropy - the soy-milk of human kindness." :tongue:

Fixed for accuracy.

Sex

Are we not all tired of comparing the relative merits of various extretement elimination apertures?

No, Parquet, we're not. The sooner you understand that folks other than you are going to want to discuss this, and that you needn't participate if you don't understand the ubiquity of the topic, the better off you'll be.

*Sits back and waits for the Parky reply, some combo of erudition, esoteric references and unnecessary defiance.*

Much respect, Park Avenue, much respect.

There's been incest debates on here before? :eek:

Yup. Do you happen to remember the one about the lady that married her biological father because they hadn't seen each other like, in 20-25 years?

There's been incest debates on here before? :eek:

It was actually quite fun...In a taking an argument seriously about crazy shit kind of way, lol....

Tell you what though, I actually got in an Eight Hour Argument over whether Facts were actually just Opinions....

Bloody fuckin crazy, lol....

But they are the best kind of arguments.

The only ones I stopped going to are Wilgrove's whining threads. His others I still dive into. The entire reason I like this so much is because he helps me to think, to question my beliefs, to reconsider my opinions. It's a mental workout. It's fun for me.

Sometimes Wilgrove's threads (and his opinions) annoy me - because of the ego involvement there. However, I wouldn't go as far as to generalise that his threads are "whining". Wilgrove frequently starts up a good discussion on a range of topics and, like you CM, I'd miss it if Wil;grove wasn't posting.:rolleyes:

There's been incest debates on here before? :eek:

My thoughts as well, I must have missed this thread.