NationStates Jolt Archive

Its about damn time.

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/RIAA-Will-Stop-Mass-Lawsuits-99761

Finally!

Well, it's good they seem to have backed away from scaring P2P users into DL music and the like, but this ISP brokering and the like sounds just as bad if not sillier than the former idea.

Well, it's good they seem to have backed away from scaring P2P users into DL music and the like, but this ISP brokering and the like sounds just as bad if not sillier than the former idea.

If anything, the RIAA wants to pretend it's the Chinese Government.

If anything, the RIAA wants to pretend it's the Chinese Government.

So it seems.

I never understood this venomous hatred of the RIAA. I mean, yeah, I get it, we all wish we can pirate music freely without any reprocussions, but you do understand, I hope, that when you do that, you are violating intellectual property laws, and they have every right to protect their copyright (in fact, failure to vigorously defend their intellectual property can, under US law, be demonstrative evidence of willfull abandonment of their rights to do so in the future).

So yeah, I know we emotionally feel bad for college kids who get slapped with huge lawsuits just because they uploaded some CDs, but on the other hand...they're breaking the law, and if you don't want to be penalized for violating federal intellectual property law, the solution seems simple. Don't violate federal intellectual property law.

So yeah, I know we emotionally feel bad for college kids who get slapped with huge lawsuits just because they uploaded some CDs, but on the other hand...they're breaking the law, and if you don't want to be penalized for violating federal intellectual property law, the solution seems simple. Don't violate federal intellectual property law.

So prove it is all i ask. Dont sue people enmass without even bothering to get even the basic facts about the people involved presuit. Out of 35,000 cases RIAA has gone to trial once and the ruling for the RIAA in that case has now been overturned.

So yeah, I know we emotionally feel bad for college kids who get slapped with huge lawsuits just because they uploaded some CDs, but on the other hand...they're breaking the law, and if you don't want to be penalized for violating federal intellectual property law, the solution seems simple. Don't violate federal intellectual property law.
Added to piratical nature, you've got to consider the way the RIAA (and other copyright enforcement agencies) has conducted itself and the outdated nature of current copyright law. I realise, however, the remit of the RIAA doesn't include legislating.

So prove it is all i ask.

The fact that they've won several of these suits suggests that they have been.

Added to piratical nature, you've got to consider the way the RIAA (and other copyright enforcement agencies) has conducted itself and the outdated nature of current copyright law. I realise, however, the remit of the RIAA doesn't include legislating.

Well, I admit that their occassional strategy of "Ready! Fire! Aim!" is a bit disconcerning and ethically shady, but as I said, the fact that they've won several of these suits does suggest that they're not entirely meritless.

As to the outdated nature of the law, without getting into debate as to the merits of that position, as you have stated, reforming legislation is not in the purview of the RIAA. They have those rights that the law grants them. Take it up with Congress :p

The fact that they've won several of these suits suggests that they have been.

No they havnt, The one they did win (the famous $220,000) judgement has been overturned.

The fact that they've won several of these suits suggests that they have been.

No they havnt, The one they did win (the famous $220,000) judgement has been overturned.

Ok gents... at the count of three... produce the evidence to support your claims.

one...

two...

two and a half... :tongue:

Three!

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/RIAAs-Only-Court-Victory-Declared-Mistrial-98004

I never understood this venomous hatred of the RIAA. I mean, yeah, I get it, we all wish we can pirate music freely without any reprocussions, but you do understand, I hope, that when you do that, you are violating intellectual property laws, and they have every right to protect their copyright (in fact, failure to vigorously defend their intellectual property can, under US law, be demonstrative evidence of willfull abandonment of their rights to do so in the future).

So yeah, I know we emotionally feel bad for college kids who get slapped with huge lawsuits just because they uploaded some CDs, but on the other hand...they're breaking the law, and if you don't want to be penalized for violating federal intellectual property law, the solution seems simple. Don't violate federal intellectual property law.

Indeed. In the US, you can have a case of "enforce your copyrights/trademarks or lose them."

Most of the bands I listen to are not on RIAA labels. However, I do get annoyed when people whine about the RIAA enforcing their copyrights. It's their legal right (and in some ways, obligation) to do so. File-sharing of music is essentially intellectual property theft. I do it sometimes myself, but I don't pretend that it's some god-given right.

Depending on the agreement, the ISP will either forward the note to customers, or alert customers that they appear to be uploading music illegally, and ask them to stop. If the customers continue the file-sharing, they will get one or two more emails, perhaps accompanied by slower service from the provider. Finally, the ISP may cut off their access altogether.
The RIAA said it has agreements in principle with some ISPs, but declined to say which ones.
Interestingly, my ISP has specifically advertised high eMule and BitTorrent speeds that allow whole movies to be downloaded in a matter of minutes.

Wondering if they're in the program.

So yeah, I know we emotionally feel bad for college kids who get slapped with huge lawsuits just because they uploaded some CDs, but on the other hand...they're breaking the law, and if you don't want to be penalized for violating federal intellectual property law, the solution seems simple. Don't violate federal intellectual property law.
The law has a ridiculously disproportionate penalty for a minor offense. You get a higher fine for downloading than for stealing the CDs. It's lobby legislation with an unjust punishment, that violates the concept of justice. The law is wrong.

And I find it perfectly reasonable to hate unjust laws and people who evoke them.