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I've just read about events in Bavaria this weekend, and I am shocked.
The article I'm referring to is here (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,596441,00.html), there's more background information in the page, but most of it is in German.



OUTRAGE AT FAR-RIGHT ATTACK
Two Neonazis Detained after Stabbing of Police Chief

Police have detained two neo-Nazis following the near-fatal stabbing of a senior Bavarian police officer on Saturday. The attack on an offical marks an escalation of violence by Germany's far right and has led to calls for a crackdown on the far-right scene.


Prosecutors said the two men fitted the description given by Alois Mannichl, who survived the attack after undergoing emergency surgery. They are being interviewed and a decision will be taken later on Monday whether to remand them in custody.

Police said they were also investigating other people from the far-right scene.

Mannichl, 52, a hate figure for local right-wing extremists because he has taken a hard line in tackling them, was stabbed after opening his front door to a bald man who launched into a torrent of abuse, calling him a "left-wing police pig" and declaring "greetings from the national resistance movement" before ramming an 11-centimeter blade into his stomach.

Neo-Nazis commonly describe themselves as the "national resistance."

The knife missed Mannichl's heart by two centimeters and he was able to give a description of the assailant.

This happend just days after a survey was published in the same newspaper, showing that the far-right has overall lost influence in Germany over the past 6 years. It highlighted that extremism had declined considerably in the West, while somewhat increasing in the East.
Apparently, the decline in numbers has not reached into Bavaria... :(

Living abroad, I no longer have first-hand knowledge of what the right-wingers get up to these days, can anybody give some first-hand accounts? I haven't read much about it in the papers, and given Germany's sensitivity on this issue every small event tends to get comprehensive news coverage...

Fuck the NPD and any like them.

I've just read about events in Bavaria this weekend, and I am shocked.
The article I'm referring to is here (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,596441,00.html), there's more background information in the page, but most of it is in German.



This happend just days after a survey was published in the same newspaper, showing that the far-right has overall lost influence in Germany over the past 6 years. It highlighted that extremism had declined considerably in the West, while somewhat increasing in the East.
Apparently, the decline in numbers has not reached into Bavaria... :(

Living abroad, I no longer have first-hand knowledge of what the right-wingers get up to these days, can anybody give some first-hand accounts? I haven't read much about it in the papers, and given Germany's sensitivity on this issue every small event tends to get comprehensive news coverage...News has been consistently over the past few years that far right crimes have been on the decline in terms of frequency and on the rise in terms of brutality.

Good may come of this. Mannichl survived and this may be a wake-up call for others to pursue neo nazis more vigorously.

This happend just days after a survey was published in the same newspaper, showing that the far-right has overall lost influence in Germany over the past 6 years. It highlighted that extremism had declined considerably in the West, while somewhat increasing in the East.
Aren't the NPD still in the regional government of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern?

News has been consistently over the past few years that far right crimes have been on the decline in terms of frequency and on the rise in terms of brutality.

Good may come of this. Mannichl survived and this may be a wake-up call for others to pursue neo nazis more vigorously.

Hopefully... I'd hate to see a return to the early 90's :(

Fuck the NPD and any like them.NO! >=O

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/KSmN.png

Aren't the NPD still in the regional government of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern?

With 6 seats (http://http://www.davidduke.com/general/german-anti-immigration-npd-party-wins-seats-in-state-election_1105.html), apparently.
They're also quite present in Saxony : http://www.nowpublic.com/world/neo-nazi-party-npd-gains-seats-german-elections

With 6 seats (http://http://www.davidduke.com/general/german-anti-immigration-npd-party-wins-seats-in-state-election_1105.html), apparently.
They're also quite present in Saxony : http://www.nowpublic.com/world/neo-nazi-party-npd-gains-seats-german-elections
*das sigh*

*das sigh*

Yep...
I used to live in Saxony, I liked it there. But then, I was in one of the cities, not in a small town.
The mentality of those extremists is just beyond me.

The mentality of those extremists is just beyond me.
"Man not having a job is shite"
"I agree, also I am stupid and bored"
"What would really chafe society's biscuits?"
"Eh being neo-Nazis"
"Not a bad call, Hitler made jobs or something, right?"
"Aye, as if women needed jobs"
"Alright, let's eh get some publicity"
"Attack some Turkish guys?"
"Aye alright"

*Der Spiegel reports within hours*

NO! >=O

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a205/ulteriormotives/KSmN.png

You are going t have to tell me what sex in English means.

You are going t have to tell me what sex in English means.
Take a wild guess, Bloum.

"Man not having a job is shite"
"I agree, also I am stupid and bored"
"What would really chafe society's biscuits?"
"Eh being neo-Nazis"
"Not a bad call, Hitler made jobs or something, right?"
"Aye, as if women needed jobs"
"Alright, let's eh get some publicity"
"Attack some Turkish guys?"
"Aye alright"

*Der Spiegel reports within hours*

Reminds me of something I read sometime last year, of neo-Nazis chasing Indians into a cafe, chanting "Turks go home"....
It must be a very confusing world to some.

Take a wild guess, Bloum.

What so it is the same? The only word I thought I didn't understand. :$

I thought they had another word for it.

You are going t have to tell me what sex in English means.Well, when two people really like eachother...

Reminds me of something I read sometime last year, of neo-Nazis chasing Indians into a cafe, chanting "Turks go home"....
It must be a very confusing world to some.
"They are brown hence Turkish Gastarbeiter or their equally horrific descendants, which are the true cause of the problems in former East Germany, yes"

What so it is the same? The only word I thought I didn't understand. :$

I thought they had another word for it.

They do... but it only gets used in textbooks and on instructions for condoms.

I thought they had another word for it.
Nein, Typ. When ein Mann und eine Frau love each other very much, they haben Sex and all that. Or bumsen, which is a bit more casual.

"They are brown hence Turkish Gastarbeiter or their equally horrific descendants, which are the true cause of the problems in East Germany, yes"

Kaya Yanar (German-Turkish-Arab comedian) summarised it quite nicely:

"All the Turks went "What? You think we wiggle our heads or what???, and all the Indians went "What? You think we constantly grab our balls or what???"
Big offense to both, apparently. ;)

Nein, Typ. When ein Mann und eine Frau love each other very much, they haben Sex and all that. Or bumsex, which is a bit more casual.

Fixed :wink:

Well, when two people really like eachother...

Nein, Typ. When ein Mann und eine Frau love each other very much, they haben Sex and all that. Or bumsen, which is a bit more casual.

How did I know someone would post something like this? :)

They do... but it only gets used in textbooks and on instructions for condoms.

Ah ok, I see.

Nein, Typ. When ein Mann und eine Frau love each other very much, they haben Sex and all that. Or bumsen, which is a bit more casual.

Or ficken, or voegeln, or schnackseln... depends what area of Germany you're in. ;)

Kaya Yanar (German-Turkish-Arab comedian) summarised it quite nicely:

"All the Turks went "What? You think we wiggle our heads or what???, and all the Indians went "What? You think we constantly grab our balls or what???"
Big offense to both, apparently. ;)

I suppose it's true what the culture guides said about German humour. It is acquired and never tell a joke to a German because their humour runs on a different level.

I suppose it's true what the culture guides said about German humour. It is acquired and never tell a joke to a German because their humour runs on a different level.

The way I see it, German humour is just too advanced for anyone else. After all, we laugh at all your jokes, it's only you who don't get ours. ;)

The way I see it, German humour is just too advanced for anyone else. After all, we laugh at all your jokes, it's only you who don't get ours. ;)

I can believe that. :tongue:

How did I know someone would post something like this? :)Because stupid questions get stupid answers =P

Or ficken, or voegeln, or schnackseln... depends what area of Germany you're in. ;)
Vögeln :D that shit cracks me up in a very gnädige Frau, danke schön kind of way :D

Or ficken, or voegeln, or schnackseln... depends what area of Germany you're in. ;)

Ok one question, which I know isn't stupid because I have thought about it.

What is schnackseln? I know vogeln is screw and fricken is fuck but not the other one.

Ok one question, which I know isn't stupid because I have thought about it.

What is schnackseln? I know vogeln is screw and fricken is fuck but not the other one.

It's Bavarian slang, means the same thing. I'm not sure what translation would be best... hump, maybe?

Wow, that went off-topic really, REALLY fast....

It's Bavarian slang, means the same thing. I'm not sure what translation would be best... hump, maybe?

Ah ok, perhaps that's why when I spent two weeks in Bavaria I didn't get anywhere because I didn't understand what they were saying. :p

And perhaps I will shut up now, instead of trying to understand jokes in a language I only have a slight understanding of.

I've just read about events in Bavaria this weekend, and I am shocked.


Sadly I'm not. I live in Italy.

Here's a fairly complete list of the fascist assaults in Italy in the last years. Ranging from beatings against black people, assaults against left-wing parties, assaults against students' marches (with police standing by and doing nothing to stop the fascists), breaking and entering the studios of the state TV.

http://isole.ecn.org/antifa/article/357/AZIONI%20FASCISTE (in italian only).

Sadly I'm not. I live in Italy.

Here's a fairly complete list of the fascist assaults in Italy in the last years. Ranging from beatings against black people, assaults against left-wing parties, assaults against students' marches (with police standing by and doing nothing to stop the fascists), breaking and entering the studios of the state TV.

What's the bet they all have centrefolds of Mussolini's granddaughter?

What's the bet they all have centrefolds of Mussolini's granddaughter?

It's even worse. Here in Italy the newspaper stands sell portraits of Mussolini (the original (tm)).

We learned nothing in the last 63 years.

I suppose it's true what the culture guides said about German humour. It is acquired and never tell a joke to a German because their humour runs on a different level.

almost got in a fight just for saying.
Entschuldigen Sie bitte, wann ist die nächtse Invasion van France
geplant?

almost got in a fight just for saying.
Entschuldigen Sie bitte, wann ist die nächtse Invasion van France
geplant?

Well, that's your own fault, isn't it?
Or did you honestly think we'd share that information with just about anyone?

Well, that's your own fault, isn't it?
Or did you honestly think we'd share that information with just about anyone?

well the problem was it turned out to be French people living in Germany.

For the most part the Germans tend to get mad that thats the only phrase in German I know.

well the problem was it turned out to be French people living in Germany.

For the most part the Germans tend to get mad that thats the only phrase in German I know.

Well, it's a bit like only knowing "When do you plan to re-gain possession of all your slaves?" in English when being in the US... ;)

Well, it's a bit like only knowing "When do you plan to re-gain possession of all your slaves?" in English when being in the US... ;)

except you can tell who a former slave was and you know not to ask them. once a Frenchman speaks German I can't tell you buggers apart.

except you can tell who a former slave was and you know not to ask them. once a Frenchman speaks German I can't tell you buggers apart.

What, you mean you can't tell a blond, fat guy in leather shorts and with a massive mug of beer apart from a skinny dark guy who wears a stripped shirt and beret and smells of garlic?

well the problem was it turned out to be French people living in Germany.

For the most part the Germans tend to get mad that thats the only phrase in German I know.
A new one: Moechtte ich das Fahhrad meines Grossvater zuruck haben?

It's even worse. Here in Italy the newspaper stands sell portraits of Mussolini (the original (tm)).

We learned nothing in the last 63 years.

Oooooh, that's just creepy. He wasn't even a very good leader...

*Runs from blackshirts*

"They are brown hence Turkish Gastarbeiter or their equally horrific descendants, which are the true cause of the problems in former East Germany, yes"

Are all Turks brown?

http://menekseilehalil.maakjestart.nl/images/kivanc_tatlitug.jpg

Are all Turks brown?
No. See also Indians. I was just roleplaying an NDP guy.

No. See also Indians. I was just roleplaying an NPD guy.

NPD sounds awfully similar to NDP.

Edit: You answered in 1 minutes!!!!!

NPD sounds awfully similar to NDP.
Bin doch so müde and all that.

Are all Turks brown?

http://menekseilehalil.maakjestart.nl/images/kivanc_tatlitug.jpg

Who is this?

NPD sounds awfully similar to NDP.

Edit: You answered in 1 minutes!!!!!

Only if you're dyslexic. :tongue:

black people

There's black people in Italy?

Only if your dyslexic. :tongue:

Lol @ the irony of laughing at dyslexia, then spelling you're wrong.

There's black people in Italy?

Yes. Why are you surprised? Have you ever heard of "immigration"?

Lol @ the irony of laughing at dyslexia, then spelling you're wrong.

Lol, indeed my friend, indeed.

Yes. Why are you surprised? Have you ever heard of "immigration"?

Obviously, it's just I never think of Europe outside of England and France really having black people.

Obviously, it's just I never think

There ya go - fixded!
:]

There ya go - fixded!
:]

...
Funny.

Here's how an Australian site deals with racists and neo-nazis. The You Tube "interview with a racist mother" is clearly a satirical piece:
http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?page_id=206

Here's how an Australian site deals with racists and neo-nazis. The You Tube "interview with a racist mother" is clearly a satirical piece:
http://slackbastard.anarchobase.com/?page_id=206

That's good. I prefer to lock them in a room with intelligent, friendly black people. It drives them mad.

I wonder how many far-right types were bullied at school or had no friends, so they thought they'd become a Nazi to compensate?

Who is this?

Kivanc Tatlitug. A model.

Only if you're dyslexic. :tongue:

Kinda similar tho:

NPD (Germany): Nationaldemokratische Partei Deutschlands - National Democratic Party of Germany

NDP (Canada): New Democratic Party - Nouveau Parti démocratique


LOL

http://www.wonderlandgardens.ca/images/layton%20child%20care.jpg

The way I see it, German humour is just too advanced for anyone else. After all, we laugh at all your jokes, it's only you who don't get ours. ;)

The Italians make the same claim in respect of the administration of their government bureaucracy. Nobody believes that either.

Obviously, it's just I never think of Europe outside of England and France really having black people.

Here in Milan we have strong nigerian and senegalese communities, and the historical presence of Eastern Africans (from the former italian colonies).

The Italians make the same claim in respect of the administration of their government bureaucracy. Nobody believes that either.

No, actually sometimes the Russians believe that, too.

Obviously, it's just I never think of Europe outside of England and France really having black people.

Portugal would also have a significant population left over from the colony days (Angola, et al)

Ireland has quite a population of Nigerian and West Africans too.

The Italians make the same claim in respect of the administration of their government bureaucracy. Nobody believes that either.

What, you think Italian government and bureaucracy isn't a joke??? :eek: