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Bush changes protections for Endangered species.

Xomic
12-12-2008, 03:16
WASHINGTON (AP) — Just six weeks before President-elect Barack Obama takes office, the Bush administration issued revised endangered species regulations Thursday to reduce the input of federal scientists and to block the law from being used to fight global warming.

The changes, which will go into effect in about 30 days, were completed in just four months. But they could take Obama much longer to reverse.

They will eliminate some of the mandatory, independent reviews that government scientists have performed for 35 years on dams, power plants, timber sales and other projects, a step that developers and other federal agencies have blamed for delays and cost increases.

The rules also prohibit federal agencies from evaluating the effect on endangered species and the places they live from a project's contribution to increased global warming.

Interior Department officials described the changes as "narrow", but environmentalists saw them as eroding the protections for endangered species.

Interior officials said federal agencies could still seek the expertise of federal wildlife biologists on a voluntary basis, and that other parts of the law will ensure that species are protected.

"Nothing in this regulation relieves a federal agency of its responsibilities to ensure that species are not harmed," said Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne in a conference call with reporters.

Current rules require biologists in the Fish and Wildlife Service and National Marine Fisheries Service to sign off on projects even when it is determined that they are not likely to harm species. The rule finalized Wednesday would do away with that requirement, reducing the number of consultations so that the government's experts can focus on cases that pose the greatest harm to wildlife, officials said.

But environmentalists said that the rule changes would put decisions about endangered species into the hands of agencies with a vested interest in advancing a project and with little expertise about wildlife. Several groups planned to file lawsuits immediately.

"This new rule is essentially a changing of the guard for determining how government projects will affect endangered species," said Francesca Grifo, director of the Scientific Integrity Program at the Union of Concerned Scientists. "Instead of expert biologists taking the first look at potential consequences, any federal agency, regardless of its expertise, will now be able to make decisions that should be determined by the best available science."

Between 1998 and 2002, the Fish and Wildlife Service conducted 300,000 consultations. The National Marine Fisheries Service, which evaluates projects affecting marine species, conducts about 1,300 reviews each year.

The reviews have helped safeguard protected species such as bald eagles, Florida panthers and whooping cranes. A federal government handbook from 1998 described the consultations as "some of the most valuable and powerful tools to conserve listed species."

Obama has said he would work to reverse the changes. But because the rule takes effect before he is sworn in, he would have to restart the lengthy rulemaking process. Congressional lawmakers have also vowed to take action, perhaps through a rarely used law that allows review of new federal regulations.

In a related development, the Bush administration also finalized on Wednesday a special rule for the polar bear, a species that was listed as threatened in May because of global warming. The rule would allow oil and gas exploration in areas where the bears live, as long as the companies comply with the Marine Mammal Protection Act.

http://www.livescience.com/environment/081211-ap-esa-rules-change.html

I wonder what else he'll change before Obama get's in. :rolleyes:
Knights of Liberty
12-12-2008, 03:17
Its ok, we dont need the endangered species and dont need to worry about the ecosystem being fucked up. Jesus's second coming will be happening soon!
UnhealthyTruthseeker
12-12-2008, 03:19
It's almost like he's trying to ruin what's left of his already pathetic legacy.
Vervaria
12-12-2008, 03:23
Hey, why not see how far down you can force your approval ratings?
Gauntleted Fist
12-12-2008, 03:24
Its ok, we dont need the endangered species and dont need to worry about the ecosystem being fucked up. Jesus's second coming will be happening soon!...What Jefferson said, the thing in your quote. That.
The_pantless_hero
12-12-2008, 04:12
It's almost like he's trying to ruin what's left of his already pathetic legacy.
They've been fucking environmental protections in the ass for years.
UnhealthyTruthseeker
12-12-2008, 04:28
They've been fucking environmental protections in the ass for years.

But it is kinda funny. It seems like his actions over the past few months have been rather random, ideologically speaking. Like, for example, it seems the Bush now accepts timetables for withdrawal from Iraq. Yet, he also continues to pursue anti-environmentalist policy, even though he supposedly felt so strongly about the whole "don't cut and run" screed over the past 5 years.

It's almost like he figures "well I'm gonna be known as a shitty president anyway, so I might as well make myself be remembered for being really shitty rather than being lost to the annals of history." Yes, I know he probably isn't actually thinking that, but still.
Free Soviets
12-12-2008, 04:42
"reduce the input of federal scientists"

fucking eggheads, what do they know anyway?
Braaainsss
12-12-2008, 04:53
Its ok, we dont need the endangered species and dont need to worry about the ecosystem being fucked up. Jesus's second coming will be happening soon!

That was the policy of Reagan's Secretary of the Interior. (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/5939345/crimes_against_nature/3)
[Reagan Interior Secretary James] Watt was a proponent of "dominion theology," an authoritarian Christian heresy that advocates man's duty to "subdue" nature. His deep faith in laissez-faire capitalism and apocalyptic Christianity led Secretary Watt to set about dismantling his department and distributing its assets rather than managing them for future generations. During a Senate hearing, he cited the approaching Apocalypse to explain why he was giving away America's sacred places at fire-sale prices: "I do not know how many future generations we can count on before the Lord returns."

Bush's Interior department had a somewhat different policy. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/10/national/main4436263.shtml)
greed and death
12-12-2008, 05:08
well endangered species act should not be used global warming.
just seems he is allowing other agencies to do environmental impact surveys the fish and wild life. can't say i agree with it but also cant say i care.
Laerod
12-12-2008, 11:27
Hey, why not see how far down you can force your approval ratings?There's surely some people that appreciate these changes.
Cabra West
12-12-2008, 11:32
There's surely some people that appreciate these changes.

People with very deep pockets, I would imagine.

Look at it this way : it might very well be his idea of a pension plan...
Laerod
12-12-2008, 11:34
People with very deep pockets, I would imagine.Not only. At least those are understandable. It's the impoverished that are inexplicably pro-business to a fanatical degree that are the most puzzling.
Rambhutan
12-12-2008, 11:37
"reduce the input of federal scientists"

fucking eggheads, what do they know anyway?

Exactly, they probably believe that evolution nonsense.
Cabra West
12-12-2008, 11:39
Not only. At least those are understandable. It's the impoverished that are inexplicably pro-business to a fanatical degree that are the most puzzling.

True, but I don't believe Bush did that to please that particular group, do you?
Laerod
12-12-2008, 11:41
True, but I don't believe Bush did that to please that particular group, do you?Hard to say, but they will be pleased, hence his ratings might receive a slight bump.
The Lone Alliance
12-12-2008, 16:37
Hard to say, but they will be pleased, hence his ratings might receive a slight bump. Considering that is the one group that everyone in the country hates, his ratings will just go down to counter that.
Collectivity
13-12-2008, 04:59
There's surely some people that appreciate these changes.

Yes but are corporations people? :confused:
I don't think that corporations should have quite the say they do and George W has shown a big preference for corporations over people.
The Black Forrest
13-12-2008, 05:48
Exactly, they probably believe that evolution nonsense.

Hey Sarah! How are you?


As to the op; don't worry the free market system will protect everything.....
The Lone Alliance
13-12-2008, 05:54
Yes but are corporations people? :confused:
I don't think that corporations should have quite the say they do and George W has shown a big preference for corporations over people.
Yes I believe according to some law corporations are granted "Personhood" or something like that.

Or at least that's what a conspericy theroist told me.