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Bye Bye Woolworths...

Londim
11-12-2008, 16:04
Bargain hunters are flocking to branches of Woolworths as a store closure sale starts at all its 815 outlets across the country.

In what looks like the beginning of the end for the retailer, its administrator Deloitte has said that some shops could close for good by the end of the year.

Deloitte is also due to consult with Woolworths' 30,000 staff over the possibility of redundancies.

Talks over the sale of the leaseholds of individual stores are continuing.

It is thought that Sainsbury's, Asda, Tesco, the Co-op and discount chain Poundland are still interested in picking up some of the retailer's prime sites.

Explaining the store closure sale, Deloitte said: "Christmas is clearly the busiest time of the year for retailers and it is prudent to do all we can to sell existing stock."

Several shoppers have contacted the BBC to say that the discounts on offer were no different to those introduced last week, and said they were angry after queuing to get into stores to snap up bargains.

However a spokesperson for the administrators said that larger price reductions had been applied to some items, while more products were now included in the sale.

'Failing brand'


Nick Hood from the business rescue experts Begbies Traynor said it was the beginning of the end for Woolworths.

"This has been a failing brand for a long time," he said.

"It just never kept pace with the change in the High Street, its core DVD and CD business has been taken away by the online trade."

"It's been very, very difficult - it just hasn't been as fleet footed as many of its rivals."

Deloitte had held talks to sell the business as a going concern to potential buyers including former Woolworths chief executive Sir Geoff Mulcahy and Dragons' Den star Theo Paphitis, but no deals could be reached.

Shopworkers' union Usdaw said the latest developments at Woolworths were "absolutely devastating" for its members.

"We have now gone from the business going into administration and staff believing they had got jobs safe up to Christmas to now being in a closing-down sale, which effectively means they are under threat of redundancy," national officer John Gorle told the BBC.

He said that Woolworth's still had a future, but conceded it was a "desperate situation".

"Many of the staff are long-serving employees. To have worked there for 10 to 15 years is not uncommon and for those workers Woolworths is not just a job but a way of life."

The Pension Protection Fund (PPF) has been formally notified that Woolworths is insolvent and is in contact with the firm's pension fund trustees.

The PPF was set up in 2005 to ensure that members of final salary schemes get their pension if their employer goes under.

Debt mountain

Woolworths went into administration on 26 November with £385m of debt.

The firm's music, DVD and games distribution subsidiary, Entertainment UK, is also in administration.

Last week, rival retailer Zavvi, which is a customer of Entertainment UK, said the situation was causing shortages of certain products in its stores.

Media publishing business 2Entertain, in which Woolworths owns a 40% stake is not in administration. The other 60% of this business is owned by BBC Worldwide, the BBC's commercial division.

Woolworths had been due to celebrate its 100th anniversary next year. Its first UK store opened in Liverpool in 1909.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7776634.stm

So one of the biggest and most respected high street chains in the UK can survive no more. I for one thank Woolworths for all the bargains I got from there over the years.

So in light of the fact no business is safe at the moment, which business or brand would you not like to see fail?
Yootopia
11-12-2008, 16:05
GET IN THERE!

Cheap Christmas presents ahoy :D
Londim
11-12-2008, 16:06
GET IN THERE!

Cheap Christmas presents ahoy :D

Best hurry. Reports are already coming in of empty shelves.
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 16:07
Meh I'm not botherd by this at all. My wife and my self where talking about it this morning, she was all 'Ahhh aint it a shame'.

I said no not really, I feel sorry for all of theose people losing their jobs right around Xmas, never nice that, but the fact that Woolies has gone, I feel nowt about really.
The blessed Chris
11-12-2008, 16:08
GET IN THERE!

Cheap Christmas presents ahoy :D

This is really quite unfair. I did all my shopping a few days ago. Bah.

In as much I'm particularly concerned, I'd be pissed off if my favourite second hand bookshop or the nice vintage shops in York closed, but otherwise, I suspect a replacement for any of the chain shops would sell identical items at identical prices.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-12-2008, 16:08
Poor Woolworths. Damn you Tesco and Asda!! :p
Yootopia
11-12-2008, 16:11
This is really quite unfair. I did all my shopping a few days ago. Bah.

In as much I'm particularly concerned, I'd be pissed off if my favourite second hand bookshop or the nice vintage shops in York closed, but otherwise, I suspect a replacement for any of the chain shops would sell identical items at identical prices.
Second Starbucks on Coney Street perhaps?
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 16:11
This is really quite unfair. I did all my shopping a few days ago. Bah.

In as much I'm particularly concerned, I'd be pissed off if my favourite second hand bookshop or the nice vintage shops in York closed, but otherwise, I suspect a replacement for any of the chain shops would sell identical items at identical prices.

And there is it is I guess. If my fave book shop, or music shop closed down. Well I'd just go elswhere.:D
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-12-2008, 16:12
And there is it is I guess. If my fave book shop, or music shop closed down. Well I'd just go elswhere.:D

That's 'cos you're an intelligent, British consumer.:tongue:
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 16:13
That's 'cos you're an intelligent, British consumer.:tongue:

Intelegent, yes, British, yes, consumer umm err yeah I guess so!
The blessed Chris
11-12-2008, 16:14
Second Starbucks on Coney Street perhaps?

I bloody hope not. Anyway, Boots has, for reasons I can't fathom, relocated a whole 10 metres to Woolworths. It's not much bigger either.
Cameroi
11-12-2008, 16:16
in america, we used to have them here too, we lost our woolworths a little more then a decade ago. i don't know if it was the same company/owners or not, but from the description it sounds like the same kind of place.
Yootopia
11-12-2008, 16:16
I bloody hope not. Anyway, Boots has, for reasons I can't fathom, relocated a whole 10 metres to Woolworths. It's not much bigger either.
Buh, of course, I remember them finishing up just as I left. What's there in place of Boots at the moment?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-12-2008, 16:18
Intelegent, yes, British, yes, consumer umm err yeah I guess so!

But more British than consumer. Right?
The blessed Chris
11-12-2008, 16:19
Buh, of course, I remember them finishing up just as I left. What's there in place of Boots at the moment?

Nothing, I think. Can't see why, it's a good location.
Yootopia
11-12-2008, 16:20
Nothing, I think. Can't see why, it's a good location.
Aye but that woolworths faced onto that causeway between Parliament Street and Coney Street, making it possibly the best location in York.
The blessed Chris
11-12-2008, 16:23
Aye but that woolworths faced onto that causeway between Parliament Street and Coney Street, making it possibly the best location in York.

True true. God it's cold here.
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 16:23
But more British than consumer. Right?

Naaa I consume, I mean we buy stuff now don't we.
Yootopia
11-12-2008, 16:25
True true. God it's cold here.
-3 in Hull. And has been for a while. Feels warm coming back to York, and the air is cleaner too. Can't wait.
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 16:26
True true. God it's cold here.

Was up nearish there a while back meself, Darlington, well Barnard Castle, well Eggelstone, well Eggelstone Hall to be exact.
Ashmoria
11-12-2008, 16:27
is woolworths a good store in the UK?

it died here because it didnt keep up with the times.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-12-2008, 16:27
Naaa I consume, I mean we buy stuff now don't we.

I know Peep, I was just joking.;)
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 16:28
I know Peep, I was just joking.;)

Damn me, sense of homour failure there I guess, heh must be your Spanish accent!
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 16:29
is woolworths a good store in the UK?

it died here because it didnt keep up with the times.

'bout the same here I think, good for pick-n-mix, and really one of the last remaing toys stores, but generaly pretty crap all round.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-12-2008, 16:30
Damn me, sense of homour failure there I guess, heh must be your Spanish accent!

Yes, it's the lisp, the lisp. Makes me sound like a snake.:tongue:
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 16:49
Yes, it's the lisp, the lisp. Makes me sound like a snake.:tongue:

It's strange you say that. I have a fair few Spanish mates and over the years of knowing them I find that I can now tell whether or not somebody comes from Spain soley by looking at the shape of their mouth.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-12-2008, 16:57
It's strange you say that. I have a fair few Spanish mates and over the years of knowing them I find that I can now tell whether or not somebody comes from Spain soley by looking at the shape of their mouth.

Come again? That's an odd way of being able to distinguish nationalities. LOL!
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 17:23
Come again? That's an odd way of being able to distinguish nationalities. LOL!

Heh not really. As you say you Spanish lisp a lot, theres a lot of it in your language. What I notice is that when a person has grown up speaking Spanish their front teeth are pushed forward a bit more than say your avarage Brit.

When you smile, if you look, you can certianly see this. Yep, yep not a failsafe method, but *shrug* it does work.

The same with Samalians, and they have a quite distinctive shape to the head, it's normaly a wee bit on the small side.

I think the language you speak certianly effects the shape of your face, as you grow.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-12-2008, 17:47
Heh not really. As you say you Spanish lisp a lot, theres a lot of it in your language. What I notice is that when a person has grown up speaking Spanish their front teeth are pushed forward a bit more than say your avarage Brit.

When you smile, if you look, you can certianly see this. Yep, yep not a failsafe method, but *shrug* it does work.

The same with Samalians, and they have a quite distinctive shape to the head, it's normaly a wee bit on the small side.

I think the language you speak certianly effects the shape of your face, as you grow.

Perhaps this is due to the fact that people who speak Spanish need to open their mouths a bit wider in order to ennunciate words. English does not require this widening of the mouth.
Peepelonia
11-12-2008, 17:55
Perhaps this is due to the fact that people who speak Spanish need to open their mouths a bit wider in order to ennunciate words. English does not require this widening of the mouth.

Yeah and if you take a look at the mouth of sombody who grew up in London, it seems smaller, and we have this sorta sideways speaking thing going on.

Umm now not that I wander around checking mouths out you understand, I errr it's just something that I have noticed.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
11-12-2008, 17:56
Yeah and if you take a look at the mouth of sombody who grew up in London, it seems smaller, and we have this sorta sideways speaking thing going on.

Umm now not that I wander around checking mouths out you understand, I errr it's just something that I have noticed.

:wink:
Enpolintoc
11-12-2008, 18:08
I hated the times when I'd find a game or a DVD I wanted on the shelves, take it to the counter and then be told it's out of stock. I always thought "If it's out of stock why is it on the shelves with no out of stock sticker or something?"
Hydesland
11-12-2008, 18:09
Going to woolworths to do Christmas shopping was disheartening enough, now having to go to a supermarket! Daaaaaayum