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Do you believe that the world will be coming to an end, if so when and why? If not, why not?

Yes, eventually, and because the sun will expand far enough to envelop the earth.

It will end soon, because Obama will end it.

Yes, eventually, and because the sun will expand far enough to envelop the earth.


That is one possiblity

That is one possiblity

The world will end in the next 5 billion years.

Exit Mundi (http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm)

I'm a fan of the mass suicide one. So creepy.

It will end soon, because Obama will end it.

Can one man ( Obama ) really cause the end of the world? Or would he need help?

Do you believe that the world will be coming to an end
Yes, dunno when or why.

That is one possiblityIt's the only one that's pretty much guaranteed and not very open to speculation.

Yes, dunno when or why.


Thank You for your honesty.

Can one man ( Obama ) really cause the end of the world? Or would he need help?

Well, listening to the right wingers, it appears he can do it itself.

Exit Mundi (http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm)

I'm a fan of the mass suicide one. So creepy.

Which one is that on the page?

The world won't end, but the human race will die out because of stupid.

The world, and life won't really end. There will just be a new cycle started. One that runs through out the rest of eternity.

The world, and life won't really end. There will just be a new cycle started. One that runs through out the rest of eternity.Not really. The sun won't last forever.

Well, listening to the right wingers, it appears he can do it itself.

If he could he wouldn't need a filibuster proof congress would he?

Which one is that on the page?

It's the one called "Farewell!" Basically, it argues that evolution will eventually take us to a point where there will no longer be a point in living.

If he could he wouldn't need a filibuster proof congress would he?

Hey, Im just telling you what the right seems to think. Personally I think he'll do great.

Will the world end? Probably. But not anytime soon.

The world will end in the next 5 billion years.


Personally I believe it will be MUCH sooner then that.

Personally I believe it will be MUCH sooner then that.

Of course you do.

Those of us in reality, however...

Which one is that on the page?


Mass Suicide is a really bad idea

Personally I believe it will be MUCH sooner then that.Might be, but that's open to speculation.

Mass Suicide is a really bad ideaI dunno. It gets rid of the main drawback of suicide: There'll be no one left behind to grieve.

The world, and life won't really end. There will just be a new cycle started. One that runs through out the rest of eternity.


I Agree, Thank You Jesus

Yup Obama scenario is pretty plausible.

The world won't end, but the human race will die out because of stupid.

Not everyone

Not really. The sun won't last forever.

God made the sun we now have, he can do it again if needed don't youi think?

It's the one called "Farewell!" Basically, it argues that evolution will eventually take us to a point where there will no longer be a point in living.

I don't believe in evolution, but I do believe in your right to your own beliefs.

I Agree, Thank You Jesus

You really do make me laugh. It's often difficult to separate genuine fools from trolls, but I feel you may fall into the former category. You really are one of the blindest people I've encountered.

Yup Obama scenario is pretty plausible.

I was waiting for someone to bite.

God made the sun we now have, he can do it again if needed don't youi think?

No.

I don't believe in evolution

Oh God...youre...perfect.


I seriously couldnt have built myself a better plaything. I hope you intend to stay active on NSG for some time to come.

Actually, the sunisn't guaranteed to reach as far as the earth, as (among other things) the solar wind will push planets otuwards somewhat. So the planet itself may be fine, although the life on it will be burnt to a crisp.

God made the sun we now have, he can do it again if needed don't youi think?No. Arguably, he wouldn't do it, even if he could. Not his style.

Might be, but that's open to speculation.


Which is what we are doing right now

Actually, the sunisn't guaranteed to reach as far as the earth, as (among other things) the solar wind will push planets otuwards somewhat. So the planet itself may be fine, although the life on it will be burnt to a crisp.


So we will evenually be crispy critters?

So we will evenually be crispy critters?

Yes, if you live to be five billion years old and don't have the sense to head to another planet by then.

I don't believe in evolution, but I do believe in your right to your own beliefs.Funnily enough, evolution doesn't care. "The devil did it" is not the reason why insects become more resistant to insecticides, it's evolution (well, only by proxy. The real culprits are humans).

Oh God...youre...perfect.


I seriously couldnt have built myself a better plaything. I hope you intend to stay active on NSG for some time to come.



I will be on NS until one of two things happen.

1). The mods throw me off.
2). The Lord takes me home.

Which is what we are doing right nowI'm not. That the world will end (interpreted to mean "everything dies and nothing new will come about") is guaranteed to happen once the sun goes bust. That's about as speculative as speculating whether someone tied to train tracks will be hit by the train that's heading in their direction.

Yes, if you live to be five billion years old and don't have the sense to head to another planet by then.


Hopefully the Depression will be over by then so we can afford to build the spacecraft we will need to escape.

I will be on NS until one of two things happen.

1). The mods throw me off.
2). The Lord takes me home.

Or, like on the ESUS forums, you throw a hissy fit because you can't deal with people who do not subscribe to your ridiculous beliefs. Remember those days?

I don't believe in evolution, but I do believe in your right to your own beliefs.

Thank you. I appreciate your totally unsolicited affirmation of my right to believe my own beliefs. Note, however, that I did not express any opinion or belief in evolution, only that I found that particular apocalypse-scenario interesting.

I will be on NS until one of two things happen.

1). The mods throw me off.
2). The Lord takes me home.

Excellent.


Anyway, the world wont be ending for a loooooong time. Short of a Nuclear Holocaut, I dont think much else will be destroying humanity anytime soon. We're resiliant little buggers.

Well guys my time on the library computer is running out but feel free to continue the
speculation on your own.

Excellent.


Anyway, the world wont be ending for a loooooong time. Short of a Nuclear Holocaut, I dont think much else will be destroying humanity anytime soon. We're resiliant little buggers.

Never underestimate the power of stupid.

Excellent.


Anyway, the world wont be ending for a loooooong time. Short of a Nuclear Holocaut, I dont think much else will be destroying humanity anytime soon. We're resiliant little buggers.

I hope your right

The world won't end, but the human race will die out because of stupid.

thats what i was thinking 2

I hope your right

Nope, you hope he's wrong. You hope that the world explodes tomorrow so you can go to happy fun land in the sky. Essentially, you, and all apocalyptic fundie nutters, are suicidal.

if we run out of alcohol the worl will end because no one will have a reason to live.

Please differentiate - do you mean world-ending or human-race ending or life-as-we-know-it ending?

What do you mean the world is ending????? Of course not!!!!! Well then again........ with all the abnormal lunatics out there it's a matter of time before some alchoholic hillybilly comes along and kills us all!!!!

There's always an apocalypse scenario-Jesus believed he was living in the End Times, the Maya believed earthquakes will destroy the planet Dec 25, 2011, the Cold War generation knew the US and Soviet Union would bathe the planet in nuclear fire in their lifetimes, and Nostradamus predicted the third Antichrist would rise to power in August of 1999.
During the seventies, the environmentalists predicted Nature would turn on us in a series of films so horrible even the Underground Horror Hosts Network doesn't air them. Today, it's either global warming drowning our cities in a modern Atlantis scenario, or the US Military will lose control of one of it's R&D projects and wipe us all out in a mass of chupacapras or some such.
There's always an apocalyse around the corner, but very few have appeared as more than hypotheses.
I shouldn't worry about any, except for the alcoholic hillbilly scenario.

Exit Mundi (http://www.exitmundi.nl/exitmundi.htm)

I'm a fan of the mass suicide one. So creepy.

I just spent a great deal of time looking through that site.

So worthwhile!

The world will end when the moon tries to hug us

It's the only one that's pretty much guaranteed and not very open to speculation.

Not necessarily. It's theorized that with the reduction of mass in the sun and it's eventual expansion, it's gravitational pull will slacken, and Earth will swing out to a further orbit. All this depends on whether it can swing out faster than the sun can expand though.

well i think a lot of this depends on how we define "world ending". i think a lot of mass starvation and disease, due primarily to global climate chainge, if that should happen to occur, and i see no reason to rule out that it might, would almost certainly be considered worthy, by corporate media, of the headline "end of the world". especially if people rightfully perceive this as having been motivated, the conditions that bring it about, having been motivated by major corporate intrests and their short sighted symbolic value gain only orientation.

because you see, if that happens, the "world" of "bussiness as usual", might very well end at that. be forced to end, as it were, by such a sequence of events.

now i don't think that means anything like the end of humanity as a species, but the risk is there, the capacity to bring that about is in our collective hands as a species. not by pissing off some big daddy in the sky, but as a resault of our own short sighted greedy stupidity.

Depends on how you define "world." If you mean the earth, I'd say right about when the sun's expansion due to age envelops the earth.

But "world" has a few other connotations, and the answer tends to depend on which one you're using.

If you mean "humanity," I think it's entirely a possibility we'll avoid the obvious pitfalls and get off this big rock and persist until we've run out of places to go.

Though that's a bit of an optimistic pipe dream, I suppose. Maybe the result of too much Asimov.

God made the sun we now have, he can do it again if needed don't youi think?

Bwahahahahah! Yes yes God can surely do that, but it'll be too late for any of us left here when our original one goes though huh!

Bwahahahahah! Yes yes God can surely do that, but it'll be too late for any of us left here when our original one goes though huh!

Sorta. He'll have ~8 minutes to pop out a new one before the sudden loss of a central gravitational pull causes all of the planets to essentially careen off willy-nilly.

Sorta. He'll have ~8 minutes to pop out a new one before the sudden loss of a central gravitational pull causes all of the planets to essentially careen off willy-nilly.

Ohh no I don't think willy-nilly goes in space.

Have you factored in the amount of time it would take the effects of gravity of this new sun to start to work, which as I recall, the speed in which gravity effets an object has been shown to be either slightly faster or slightly slower then the speed of light,

Entropy makes everyone it's bitch, sooner or later.

Entropy makes everone it's bitch, sooner or later.

/Threadwin

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Ohh no I don't think willy-nilly goes in space.

Have you factored in the amount of time it would take the effects of gravity of this new sun to start to work, which as I recall, the speed in which gravity effets an object has been shown to be either slightly faster or slightly slower then the speed of light,

It's exactly the speed of light, actually.

And yeah, it would take 8 minutes for us to feel the loss of gravity of the sun, and another 8 minutes for the new one to kick in.

/Threadwin

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Yay!

It's exactly the speed of light, actually.

And yeah, it would take 8 minutes for us to feel the loss of gravity of the sun, and another 8 minutes for the new one to kick in.

Ohh really, exactly? How queer is that huh. I must admit that the experiment that I'm thinking of took place about umm 6? years ago.

Far more likely a comet will do us in. There are several that are passing fairly close we hope those guys at NASA got the calculation right! Damn calculus.

Ohh really, exactly? How queer is that huh. I must admit that the experiment that I'm thinking of took place about umm 6? years ago.

Hmm, not sure. I do know that from the mathematics fields like the Higgs field and Gravitational field all propagate at the speed of light as a natural consequence of such and such, but the physics is very mathy and makes my head hurt.

There's some special word for fields like that. I'll ask later today at a meeting.

Today there are more than 100 entries on NASA's list of asteroids that just might possibly hit Earth, even if it's less than a one-in-a-million chance. One of them, called Apophis, currently has a risk rating of 1 in 45,000.

Apophis will pass close enough to dip inside our satellite ring of course that is only an estimate.

Scientists are monitoring the progress of a 390-metre wide asteroid discovered last year that is potentially on a collision course with the planet, and are imploring governments to decide on a strategy for dealing with it.

Nasa has estimated that an impact from Apophis, which has an outside chance of hitting the Earth in 2036, would release more than 100,000 times the energy released in the nuclear blast over Hiroshima. Thousands of square kilometres would be directly affected by the blast but the whole of the Earth would see the effects of the dust released into the atmosphere.
And, scientists insist, there is actually very little time left to decide.

You people should read the Bible. We are living in the end times. Check out Revelations it describe events that are happening everyday all over the world.

You people should read the Bible. We are living in the end times. Check out Revelations it describe events that are happening everyday all over the world.

Behold, the self-fulfilling forum noob. I predicted one would show up soon!

i used to believe that about Revelations but as read on the subject many of the predictions John made have already happened. Clearly The anti-Christ has not risen yet. Assuming that the anti-Christ is a human. That's the thing about vision you can make them interpret anything.

So far and counting ...

The rapture hasn't happened so far. Not to say that it won't
The tribulation has happen yet so far. Not to say that it won't.

Assuming we would know what both of the above would look like. The bible is very good a predictions but time frame are a little fuzzy could be tomorrow could in several 1000 years hard to say. Only one knows for sure and he is not telling.

You people should read the Bible. We are living in the end times. Check out Revelations it describe events that are happening everyday all over the world.

Events that have been happening since, Oh I don't know, before humans stood up on two legs.

Revelations just tries to tell you what the end will look like and what has to happen before the end.

You people should read the Bible. We are living in the end times. Check out Revelations it describe events that are happening everyday all over the world.

Post some stuff from Revelations, then comparisons to nowadays. Then I might believe you.

You people should read the Bible. We are living in the end times. Check out Revelations it describe events that are happening everyday all over the world.

Oh my God another one. Please stay. Please post more.

Oh my God another one. Please stay. Please post more.

Is it a different one?

Okay keep in mind this guy was born several 1000 years ago.

Revelation 6:12 (New International Version)

12I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,

Seem to indicate and eclipse and a huge earthquake

13and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as late figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.

Seem to indicate and eclipse and a huge earthquakeLike they are that uncommon.

metors or some other cosmic entitiy

15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.


So basically we are all going to freak out and run for cover

I don't believe in evolution, but I do believe in your right to your own beliefs.

You do not believe that you are not identical to your father/mother ?
Because if you differ - that is evolution. That certain people misuse the word to further their political agenda is not my problem.

Okay keep in mind this guy was born several 1000 years ago. Revelations was written about 1700 years ago, actually.



I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,

Because that happens regularly?

Sorry jumped a little
7:1

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.

Big storms stands to reason

Sorry jumped a little
7:1

After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.

Big storms stands to reason
But the Earth is round, isn't it.;)

Sorry opposite I guess absolutely no wind

So far I am getting to that. The earth may be here but we won't be....

Then there is ton of number of how many will be saved and from which tribe. Only 144,000 from Israel. Which kind of stinks considering there are several million there now.

Then there is ton of number of how many will be saved and from which tribe. Only 144,000 from Israel. Which kind of stinks considering there are several million there now.

Its OK, Revelations is about is true as Lord of the Rings, so I wouldnt worry too much.

now we are up to 8:5
More earthquakes and lightning.

Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake.

Revelation 8:7

7The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.

Its OK, Revelations is about is true as Lord of the Rings, so I wouldnt worry too much.

There is more evidence for the existence of Frodo than there is for that of Julius Caesar ;)

cookie for people that understand the sarcasm

Some kind of mass deforestation due to some cosmic force.

Revelation 8:8

8The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood,


Well maybe not blood but red?

Stop posting things from Revelations. No one cares.

Revelation 8:9

9a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.

Revelation 8:10

10The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water—

Sea water and now fresh water and thus starts the end...

Yep, reporting Truly Blessed for spam.

the name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.


Any chemist out there. What would turn the water bitter?

Actually, that revelations stuff sounds like an alien invasion...

Bitter is usually attributed to alkaline stuff (bases), so something like sodium hydroxide would do, I guess. Or soap.

Also, are you sure it's Wormwood and not Wormtongue?

no it's not going to end soon, it better not end or there will be trouble.
besides does it matter if the world ends soon? you'l be dead afterward anyway, so why not assume it won't end for now eh?

Sorry about the spam thing I was responding. No offense anyone. The signs are pretty unmistakable and yet...

Tell me, what is Jehovah's death a sign of?

Sorry about the spam thing I was responding. No offense anyone. The signs are pretty unmistakable and yet...

Nothing about your posts was either unmistakable or responsive to anything.

If you want to post here, make posts that clearly define what you are quoting and what you are contributing on your own. You might also want to wait until you have an actual idea of what you want to say before spewing random biblical quotes over multiple threads. One carefully thought out post trumps 20 random quotes in separate posts.

Sorry about the spam thing I was responding. No offense anyone. The signs are pretty unmistakable and yet...

No, see, theyre not unmistakeable. Theyre pretty...well...noexistant.

Well it hasn't happened yet. However we will know when it "is" happening slight distinction

The signs are pretty unmistakable and yet...

They're not happening and even if they did it wouldn't lead to the Rapture.

Nothing about your posts was either unmistakable or responsive to anything.

If you want to post here, make posts that clearly define what you are quoting and what you are contributing on your own. You might also want to wait until you have an actual idea of what you want to say before spewing random biblical quotes over multiple threads. One carefully thought out post trumps 20 random quotes in separate posts.

I can't recall who asked but someone actually asked.

I can't recall who asked but someone actually asked.

Me.

They're not happening and even if they did it wouldn't lead to the Rapture.

The Rapture is a different deal. It is about suddenly a whole bunch of people disappearing with no apparent reason. Mostly to avoid the Tribulation. The rest of us get to face that.

That is one possiblity

Actually, it's probability, based on what we know of life cycles of stars like ours. I had thought that with the sun expanding as it goes red giant it would just push the planetary orbits out to a proportionate distance away, but as it turns out that's not how scientists think things will go. The inner planets will all be gone and it'll get a lot warmer on Jupiter, at the very least.

All stars have life cycles. Even if the sun didn't go the way scientists think it will go, prospects for life on earth will be no better if it turns into a dwarf star than if it goes red giant.

And we'll be long gone by then anyway.

The rapture is a "Get out of jail free card". Since you have been so good while you were down here you get to avoid the end of the world. While the rest of us endure punishment.

Reading through this thread has given me a headache and a morbid desire to see the world end tomorrow, at 9:00 hrs.

You do not believe that you are not identical to your father/mother ?
Because if you differ - that is evolution. That certain people misuse the word to further their political agenda is not my problem.

That's not evolution, that's sexual reproduction. Asexual organisms evolve too, you know. Evolution would be the development of lactose tolerance in an ethnic population where none had existed previously, just for one example. Several of our genetic diseases come from evolution too, not because the disease itself is advantageous but because possessing one gene for the disease is. (See also sickle-cell anemia vs. malaria.)

Although I'm right there with you not understanding how anyone can say they "don't believe in" evolution. That's like saying you don't believe in thunderstorms. Evolution *does* happen. It's happening right now.

Since this is a tangent from the topic anyway, while we're on this subject, I'm more than a little tired of people assuming that evolution teaches how life BEGAN. Darwin's seminal work was entitled On The Origin of Species, NOT On The Origin of Life. I actually own the darned book now, so don't mess with me. :P

That's not evolution, that's sexual reproduction.

And that is not a form of evolution because... ? ;)
The definition of evolution is really much simpler than people think, though recently the definition has come to focus on populations. It "evolved".

Reading through this thread has given me a headache and a morbid desire to see the world end tomorrow, at 9:00 hrs.

Spanish time?

Spanish time?

Yes, I don't care about any other kind.

Yes, I don't care about any other kind.

Ha. Well in that case I'll get there first with my GMT, crushing your plan and your enjoyment of the last few seconds of your life.

Ha. Well in that case I'll get there first with my GMT, crushing your plan and your enjoyment of the last few seconds of your life.

To best of my knowledge and since it's Winter, both Spain and England are on the same time frame.

It's 21:40 right now.

To best of my knowledge and since it's Winter, both Spain and England are on the same time frame.

It's 21:40 right now.


No, we shift back for Winter, flipping Scots.

No, we shift back for Winter, flipping Scots.

Then what time is it over there?

Then what time is it over there?

8.45. We're an hour behind in Winter.

8.45. We're an hour behind in Winter.

I see. Then I'm getting first to the end of the world! And of this flipping work-day too.

http://www.serializer.net/comics/apocamon.php?view=archive&chapter=12110&mpe=0

Apocamon!

The book of Revelations, but done as a Pokemon-style online flash comic!

I see. Then I'm getting first to the end of the world! And of this flipping work-day too.

Oh yeah, you are. I counted wrong. I'll just get up earlier then.

No, we shift back for Winter, flipping Scots.
Don't blame us... wasn't our idea (http://www.nmm.ac.uk/explore/astronomy-and-time/time-facts/british-summer-time/) ;)

http://www.serializer.net/comics/apocamon.php?view=archive&chapter=12110&mpe=0

Apocamon!

The book of Revelations, but done as a Pokemon-style online flash comic!

I laughed my ass off! :D

Don't blame us... wasn't our idea (http://www.nmm.ac.uk/explore/astronomy-and-time/time-facts/british-summer-time/) ;)

BST wasn't the Scots's fault, I like it, having a GMT/BST mix was.

When the British Standard Time experiment ended, the Home Office carried out an exhaustive review to find out whether it had been successful. The answer was both yes and no. There were ‘pros and cons’ to having the clocks forward and, on balance, the Government decided to return to the original British Summer Time.

The cons were Scottish children were more likely to end up hit by cars with permanent BST, however with GMT English kids end up in more accidents, and there are more English children so I say go with the majority. Or just give Scotland their own time.

Yes, I don't care about any other kind.

you have get in line of all the other nine hours as death moves from one nine hour to the other in each timezone

Do you believe that the world will be coming to an end, if so when and why? If not, why not?

Yes and No.

Depending on how things develop in the next two to three billion years and if our solar system and by extension our little home among the stars manages to survive the massive collision between the Andromeda and Milky Way Galaxies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda-Milky_Way_collision), our planet can look forward to, in 5 billion years from now and 2 to 3 billion years after the collision of the two galaxies, the Sun becoming a Red Giant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#Future) and the possibility of being envelopment by our not so friendly Sun's atmosphere.

If, our world somehow manages to survive that event, then only God knows when it will be destroyed as it aimless wonders around the Universe in search of good times as it remembers the good days of a long bygone era.

However, there is a positive in all of this. If, both humanity and our world happen to survive all those events plus whatever else is thrown at us, imagine the tourist attraction our planet would be in not only have survived one, but two World Ending Events. :):p

Me.

The tallest high-rise on the MIT campus is known as the Green Building. Legend has it that if, at any time, all the lights in every room in the Green Building go out, the world will come to an end.

You are now on notice.

Yes and No.

Depending on how things develop in the next two to three billion years and if our solar system and by extension our little home among the stars manages to survive the massive collision between the Andromeda and Milky Way Galaxies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda-Milky_Way_collision), our planet can look forward to, in 5 billion years from now and 2 to 3 billion years after the collision of the two galaxies, the Sun becoming a Red Giant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#Future) and the possibility of being envelopment by our not so friendly Sun's atmosphere.

If, our world somehow manages to survive that event, then only God knows when it will be destroyed as it aimless wonders around the Universe in search of good times as it remembers the good days of a long bygone era.

Long before that time Man will have figured out how to move the planet, either to a more distant orbit or to orbit around another star. No worries.

I plan to be there when it happens. ;)

What do you mean by the "world"? Human civilization? That's bound to end in the next world war. The planet Earth? A couple of billion years.

Not until the sun expands and engulfs the earth entirely.

Whether we as a species will cease to exist is a different matter, and the answer is, "Yes, eventually."

It's the one called "Farewell!" Basically, it argues that evolution will eventually take us to a point where there will no longer be a point in living.
Looking at some people out there now, they've already evolved well past that point...

To best of my knowledge and since it's Winter, both Spain and England are on the same time frame.

It's 21:40 right now.

Had a mate over from Barcelona the other week to see me, he told me that it was nice and warm over there(bastard), today though he has emailed me complaining about the cold(good)!:D

Had a mate over from Barcelona the other week to see me, he told me that it was nice and warm over there(bastard), today though he has emailed me complaining about the cold(good)!:D

It's fucking freezing, that's what it is. I was in Canada for a few days on business, and when I came back (damn Canuckland was freezing cold too), Madrid was under -4 weather conditions. I was so mortified.

it isn't a fate, its a choice, and oil is the orange coolaide.

It's fucking freezing, that's what it is. I was in Canada for a few days on business, and when I came back (damn Canuckland was freezing cold too), Madrid was under -4 weather conditions. I was so mortified.

Hehehe and he was telling me that even in the winter it normaly don't get too cold!

Hehehe and he was telling me that even in the winter it normaly don't get too cold!

This has been an unusual year. It gets cold, but not freezing. And I fear the entire season will be like that. *sigh*:(

It's fucking freezing, that's what it is. I was in Canada for a few days on business, and when I came back (damn Canuckland was freezing cold too), Madrid was under -4 weather conditions. I was so mortified.

Welcome to the Finnish winter. It's normally bit below 0. It's now +1.

Welcome to the Finnish winter. It's normally bit below 0. It's now +1.

El país del sol de medianoche.

El país del sol de medianoche.

In English?

In English?

The land of the midnight sun.

Work, mate, work to earn it!

The land of the midnight sun.

Work, mate, work to earn it!

I had to google that to know what it meant. But, yeah Finland is the land of the midnight sun. At least, Lapland.

Welcome to the Finnish winter. It's normally bit below 0. It's now +1.

So it's pretty hot for you at the moment?

I had to google that to know what it meant. But, yeah Finland is the land of the midnight sun. At least, Lapland.

Everytime I hear the name of Lapland, I end up remembering, with glee, a book I loved so much when I was teen called "El Final de Norma", by Pedro Antonio de Alarcón.
*sighs in contentment*

So it's pretty hot for you at the moment?

No. At summer, normal temperature is +10-15.

What do you mean by the "world"? Human civilization? That's bound to end in the next world war. The planet Earth? A couple of billion years.


Human Civilization

if we run out of alcohol the worl will end because no one will have a reason to live.
See: Mass Suicide
The world will end when the moon tries to hug us
Interplanetary romance is not as cool as Kirk made it out to be.
Behold, the self-fulfilling forum noob. I predicted one would show up soon!
:hail:
Tell me, what is Jehovah's death a sign of?
Divine Boredom.
The tallest high-rise on the MIT campus is known as the Green Building. Legend has it that if, at any time, all the lights in every room in the Green Building go out, the world will come to an end.

You are now on notice.
Note to self: Cut power to Green Building. Alternatively, EMP.
Human Civilization
I'm sure something will get us eventually. If we manage to make it off this planet before the sun asplodes then it'll either be hostile aliens or entropy.

Oh God...youre...perfect.


I seriously couldnt have built myself a better plaything. I hope you intend to stay active on NSG for some time to come.

He's been here longer than you, KoL. Show some deference to your elders. ;)

*sigh*

The world ended a long time ago. we just never got the invite to the Goodbye Bash.

They just asked us to turn the lights off when we're done.

See: Mass Suicide

Interplanetary romance is not as cool as Kirk made it out to be.

:hail:

Divine Boredom.

Note to self: Cut power to Green Building. Alternatively, EMP.

I'm sure something will get us eventually. If we manage to make it off this planet before the sun asplodes then it'll either be hostile aliens or entropy.

Entropy always wins. *nod*

Entropy always wins. *nod*

Indeed, but the question is who can kill us faster, ET or entropy?

Indeed, but the question is who can kill us faster, ET or entropy?

Well, entropy always wins, eventually. So I guess ET.

The Second Coming of Jesus Christ might be the cause as well

The Second Coming of Jesus Christ might be the cause as well

Unlikely, since he never came the first time.

Unlikely, since he never came the first time.


Jesus life and Death is a proven fact in history books as well as the Bible.

It is a proven fact in history books as well as the Bible.

Proven fact and Bible tend not to go to well together, especially not in the same sentence.

However, proven fact in history books? Not so much.

Proven fact and Bible tend not to go to well together, especially not in the same sentence.

However, proven fact in history books? Not so much.


You don't read much do you ;) Check it out

My time on the library computer is almost up this hour so I'll talk to you later

You don't read much do you ;) Check it out

I have. It's rather sparse on facts and rather heavy on empty narrative. You really should read more. Sticking with one single book is generally a poor way to learn things. Especially if you're going to use that book as justification for itself. You know, that whole "circular reasoning" thing.

I have. It's rather sparse on facts and rather heavy on empty narrative. You really should read more. Sticking with one single book is generally a poor way to learn things. Especially if you're going to use that book as justification for itself. You know, that whole "circular reasoning" thing.

Here's a link:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-11,GGLD:en&q=Jesus+in+History

You should be able to find the proof that Jesus is real and loves everyone
somewhere among these multiple internet web sites don't you think?

I think human civilazation will end after a asteroid strike.

Jesus was real, but he was HUMAN.

Here's a link:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-11,GGLD:en&q=Jesus+in+History
jesus doesnt occur in history. he is only in religious texts.

He was a real person.

Here's a link:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-11,GGLD:en&q=Jesus+in+History

You should be able to find the proof that Jesus is real and loves everyone
somewhere among these multiple internet web sites don't you think?

So he was a little loose, eh? Poor Mary Magdalene.

Still, this doesn't really help much. Most of the nonbiblical sources in antiquity date from well after Jesus' supposed death and resurrection, with the exception of Josephus, whose writings on the subject constitute a single paragraph in a passage that scholars have for some time regarded as a redaction.

Jesus life and Death is a proven fact in history books as well as the Bible.

Not really. Jesus was not written about in any other history books at the time except by Josephus. And most people are very surprised to learn, that if one actually takes the time to read Josephus, in all 500+ pages in the book, Jesus Christ appears in approximately four sentences.

And everybody knows already that the 4 books in the Bible were all largely plagarized off Mark and an unknown source Q, since many passages appear in the four Gospels (except for John) that are largely identical to each other.

Not to mention there were numerous other Gospels written at the time that gives quite another portrait of Jesus, but they have been lost over the centuries, leading one to question the accuracy of the four gospels in the bible.

I think human civilazation will end after a asteroid strike.

A Gamma-Ray burst would be a bit more thorough.

A Gamma-Ray burst would be a bit more thorough.
ya but when was the last such gamma ray burst event that hit the earth?

Zombie Apocalypse.

It may not be the most logical way for the world to come to a sort of an end, but hell, it would certainly be the most fun.

Unlikely, since he never came the first time.
Jesus has ED.
Here's a link:

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-11,GGLD:en&q=Jesus+in+History

You should be able to find the proof that Jesus is real and loves everyone
somewhere among these multiple internet web sites don't you think?
Which one did you find it on?
Zombie Apocalypse.

It may not be the most logical way for the world to come to a sort of an end, but hell, it would certainly be the most fun.

I, for one, plan to join the zombies and rule over the new undead civilisation.

Do you believe that the world will be coming to an end, if so when and why? If not, why not?

The world will come to an end for sure, because of thermodynamics, within a 10^n years.

Disasters like Berlusconi, though, can speed up the process of destroying the world and "breaking my balls" (a thing we italians say about something that's very annoying).:p

*hate hate hate*

The great potato will become angry and destroy us all.

Either that or the Hypnotoad.

All glory to the Hypnotoad!

It kinda feels like arguing with a 12 year old...

It kinda feels like arguing with a 12 year old...

Hey - we have numerous posters that age here ;)

Not really. Jesus was not written about in any other history books at the time except by Josephus. And most people are very surprised to learn, that if one actually takes the time to read Josephus, in all 500+ pages in the book, Jesus Christ appears in approximately four sentences.

And everybody knows already that the 4 books in the Bible were all largely plagarized off Mark and an unknown source Q, since many passages appear in the four Gospels (except for John) that are largely identical to each other.

Not to mention there were numerous other Gospels written at the time that gives quite another portrait of Jesus, but they have been lost over the centuries, leading one to question the accuracy of the four gospels in the bible.

The Books of Matthew, Mark, Luke & John are books written by four differant
followers of Jesus, each seen from there own prospective.

How about stop gravedigging?

How about stop gravedigging?


Gravedigging?

How about stop gravedigging?

I'd call a grave dug a week ago quite fresh. Especially since it contained new year ;)

I'd call a grave dug a week ago quite fresh. Especially since it contained new year ;)

He's done it a couple of times in this very thread though.

There's no gravedigging here, thats Satans job. :rolleyes:

There's no gravedigging here, thats Satans job. :rolleyes:

True. While one can say may negative things about Satan, he is not afraid to get his hands dirty.

There's no gravedigging here, thats Satans job. :rolleyes:

What?

"All good things must come to an end."

Ok are you saying it's time to end this Thread?

my head hurts

"All good things must come to an end."

"No, Dorksonian, only evil things have to come to an end.
It is possible for good things to continue forever."

"No, Dorksonian, only evil things have to come to an end.
It is possible for good things to continue forever."

they don't really last forever. But if she's a pro and you took a few hits of X beforehand, it might seem like it.

they don't really last forever. But if she's a pro and you took a few hits of X beforehand, it might seem like it.

The voice of experience rings loud and clear.

:D

I am a firm believer that humanity will expand out into the galaxy. Earth will have to be abandon in 2 or so billion years when it gets to hot or we will have to move the planet out towards Mars. I don't buy into the doomsday cults or books of revelations. The one thing down the line that could put a severe damper on us is another civilization deeming us unworthy of living.

Do you believe that the world will be coming to an end, if so when and why? If not, why not?
Eventually, yes.
For basic physical reasons.
Not semantic ones, not philosophical ones, not epistemological ones, not wishful thinking.
Same time frame a few others have probably already posted, i could confirm if i read the rest of the thread.

Ok are you saying it's time to end this Thread?
No, they're mentioning the last episode of ST:TNG.
Sheesh.

Sometime around 2033 an large asteroid is going to hit just off the coast of Southern California. I don't know about the rest of the world but Californians are going to be wiped off the map.

Sometime around 2033 an large asteroid is going to hit just off the coast of Southern California. I don't know about the rest of the world but Californians are going to be wiped off the map.
I read that's when Social Security was going to dry up completely ... before the crashed economy thingy on Bush's watch there.

the human species will die of old age eventually, hundreds of thousands of years from now, and then the planet, billions of years after even that.

long before ether of these events, every sovereign nation on the face of the planet will have fallen and been replaced by others, over and over again, countless times, and by the end of this thousand years, peacefully.

if humanity destroys itself before then, it will be by its own doing and its own hand.
not by fate, or the will of some outside force, but by thoughtless ill considered choice.

and if it does, it will be far more likely from famine and disease resulting from carelessness and neglect of the natural environment, then any result of war, though 'wars', there may for a time, a few more hundred years at most, continue to be.

it isn't going to be struck down by some vengeful deity. big friendly and invisible don't do things that way. and if anything on its scale did, wouldn't we be long gone already, or even have never been?

as for cataclysmic natural events on a planetary scale, while not inconceivable, this is what is called a rather long shot.

not that the possibility of they're happening at all eventually is that far out there, but resulting in the demise of the web of life, or even just that of the human species, is.

MUCH less likely then as a result of the effect of putting trying to impress each other ahead of the kind of world we all have to live on, and the motivations of symbolic value, is having on natures cycles of renewal, which is where the air we breathe, among other things, comes from.

i would also point out in passing, that for every world that ends, whenever it eventually does, there a billions of others, in this ever so unimaginably vast universe, that go right on living.

kind of like the same way other people are born and living, when each of us dies.

Gravedigging?
Yeah, like this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/03/opinion/03collins.html?_r=1

No, they're mentioning the last episode of ST:TNG.
Sheesh.


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