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How likely is it that a country tries to annexe the antarctic?

What should be the international action if this happens?

Seems something that might be increasingly likely as resources run out. Does it depend on which country does it?

They can't, I have already laid claim to it. I also joined the UN, so if any nation tries to annex me then I will be protected.

Don't parts of it already belong to certain nations already?

What resources are there in Antartica?

Anyway Australia controls the most and I'm pretty sure we would defend it quite a bit.

Do you people dare deny my sovereignty?

Marie Byrd Land is still up for grabs SaintB

depends on who does it. if the US does it likely all that would happen is a bunch of diplomatic complaining. If Russia does it about the same. though right now no one is going to claim it too expensive to extract resources.

Overlapping sections of Antartica have already been "annexed" by a bizarre array of nations (see http://www.antarcticconnection.com/antarctic/treaty/map.htm). The area is just not interesting enough to go to war over, otherwise this would already have happened a long time ago.

SaintB said:
They can't, I have already laid claim to it. I also joined the UN, so if any nation tries to annex me then I will be protected.

Meh. Me and my conscripted army will lay waste to your defenses and claim not only your land but your women and children, too. So neener!

its mine, all mine I tell you!

Do you people dare deny my sovereignty?

You're confused. You have claimed the lands of Arctica, i.e. all dry land north of the 85th parallel (northern hemisphere, that is).

You're confused. You have claimed the lands of Arctica, i.e. all dry land north of the 85th parallel (northern hemisphere, that is).

He'd have to fight the Russians and Canadians for that desolate wasteland.

He'd have to fight the Russians and Canadians for that desolate wasteland.

Ehmmmm, what land, exactly? :tongue:

Ehmmmm, what land, exactly? :tongue:

Oh right, it's just one big iceberg, ain't it?!

I think all the Northern countries can leave well enough alone. Haven't we done enough destruction in our exploitation of the rest of the southern hemisphere?

They'd have to defeat the Penguin Empire first.

Oh right, it's just one big iceberg, ain't it?!
There is land. It's just 1km under the sea.

Didn't the Russians try that already?

There is land. It's just 1km under the sea.

Just as there is land only 11km under the sea in the Mariana Trench.

Fresh water could be a very valuable resource at some point.

How likely is it that a country tries to annexe the antarctic?
Ten to the minus 50.


What should be the international action if this happens?

Kicking their sorry frozen butts outta there.

Seems something that might be increasingly likely as resources run out. Does it depend on which country does it?
Nope. Although not many countries are likely to fight against an adversary who's vastly superior (like, dunno, Tunisia vs Italy or Italy vs Russia).

Things will have to be pretty damn dire for resource claiming to happen there. Apart from the inhospitable climate, Antarctica is very far away from any country with the necessary technology to exploit it. There's a reason it has no permanent population; maintaining one is hellishly expensive.

Didn't the Russians try that already?

Maybe you're thinking of the arctic circle? They dropped a weight with the Russian flag on it somewheres up there, thus laying claim to the rich resources 1km under the ocean.

If anything I think there will be big disputes over the arctic circle, not the antarctic. After all, the arctic circle is melting, making shipping much easier, and gathering resources a bit easier.

its mine, all mine I tell you!

Sorry I own the Ross shelf.

Can't be done. Treaties already exist.

Haven't we done enough destruction in our exploitation of the rest of the southern hemisphere?

No.

Can't be done. Treaties already exist.

Yeah cause that's always stopped people before.

What about the sovereignty of the Penguins?

What about the sovereignty of the Penguins?

They are ready for any country that wants to take their land.

http://micronik.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/penguin-army.jpg

They are ready for any country that wants to take their land.

http://micronik.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/penguin-army.jpg

Do they have a foreign legion?

Do they have a foreign legion?

Yes and this is the uniform

http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00MCKTJbHRgErPM/Men-s-Suit-Tuxedo.jpg

Unless your a women then this is the uniform

http://www.augustiniancanons.org/images/Habit/habit%20stages.jpg

Yes and this is the uniform

http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00MCKTJbHRgErPM/Men-s-Suit-Tuxedo.jpg

Unless your a women then this is the uniform

http://www.augustiniancanons.org/images/Habit/habit%20stages.jpg

Awesome. I already have a uniform. Later guys, I'm off to join the Penguin Foreign Legion!

I am male, btw, so first picture applies.

Awesome. I already have a uniform. Later guys, I'm off to join the Penguin Foreign Legion!

I am male, btw, so first picture applies.

I know your a male Calli I tried to place something that looked like a nun habit for the lady folks out there and for laughs.

Good luck with that mate, after 10 years service you get penguin citizenship.

What resources are there in Antartica?

Anyway Australia controls the most and I'm pretty sure we would defend it quite a bit.

Supposedly there are tons of natural gases and oil deposits underneath the ice. That would be a pretty good reason.

Supposedly there are tons of natural gases and oil deposits underneath the ice. That would be a pretty good reason.

Really? Wasn't aware of that.

Really? Wasn't aware of that.

I guess cause of it originally being part of Pangea thats where it all came from.

Hmm getting to it would be quite the pain even if it was there given the conditions, you might as well mine another planet or an astroid. Not to mention the isolation facter. I understand they have to thoughly psych people for going down there.

Hmm getting to it would be quite the pain even if it was there given the conditions, you might as well mine another planet or an astroid. Not to mention the isolation facter. I understand they have to thoughly psych people for going down there.

just like with astronauts only this has a bigger payout

I can see it already, Antarctica, space camp for corporations everywhere. I guess they got to start preparing to plunder the solar system somewhere.

I guess cause of it originally being part of Pangea thats where it all came from.

Yeah, true, considering it would have been covered by plant material and animals it would lead to oil creation.

Everyone knows the Antarctic is a walk-in freezer chock full of homicidal alien orgasnisms.

They are ready for any country that wants to take their land.

http://micronik.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/penguin-army.jpg
Oh, please. They lost to the polar bears in the Arctic War, for Chrissakes.

Everyone knows the Antarctic is a walk-in freezer chock full of homicidal alien orgasnisms.

Exactly, think of the weapons potential - nothing could possibly go wrong...


...and henceforth I shall always use the word 'orgasnism' it is brilliant.

Do they have a foreign legion?

Aso their police is equipped with shields strong enough to deflect laser beams.

http://www.doxaliber.it/wp-uploads/images/ipcop_logo.jpg

Oh, please. They lost to the polar bears in the Arctic War, for Chrissakes.

They would still kick your arse. :)

They would still kick your arse. :)

Because me and Blouman created the TransArctic alliance, so the penguins, polar bears, and seals all work together now! We have been stocking Soviet surplus nuclear weapons and have recently acquired and begun reverse engineering on American made next generation ICBM's! Bring it on!

Because me and Blouman created the TransArctic alliance, so the penguins, polar bears, and seals all work together now! We have been stocking Soviet surplus nuclear weapons and have recently acquired and begun reverse engineering on American made next generation ICBM's! Bring it on!Lies. The penguins are the ones behind global warming, seeing as they've failed in conquering the Arctic by conventional means every time they tried. They'd never cooperate with the polar bears.

Why, exactly, would anyway want the Antarctic? It's bloody freezing!

Lies. The penguins are the ones behind global warming, seeing as they've failed in conquering the Arctic by conventional means every time they tried. They'd never cooperate with the polar bears.

They would if a sufficiently charismatic and brutal/terrifying leader (ala me) forced them to.

Why, exactly, would anyway want the Antarctic? It's bloody freezing!

Storage facility for surplus ice cream bars... duh.

Storage facility for surplus ice cream bars... duh.

What good is storing all those ice cream bars so far away?

Why, exactly, would anyway want the Antarctic? It's bloody freezing!

Dude, why do you think myself and SaintB instituted global warming?

What good is storing all those ice cream bars so far away?

Because someday they will be as valuable as gold!

They would if a sufficiently charismatic and brutal/terrifying leader (ala me) forced them to.Hahaha! XD

Because me and Blouman created the TransArctic alliance, so the penguins, polar bears, and seals all work together now! We have been stocking Soviet surplus nuclear weapons and have recently acquired and begun reverse engineering on American made next generation ICBM's! Bring it on!

Speaking of which when do we teach the penguins to fly?

Dude, why do you think myself and SaintB instituted global warming?

Ok, we'll reveal our true plan, who here could stop us anyway?

When global warming melts the polar ice caps and wrecks the rest of the world, me and Blouman will control the only large landmass that isn't a ruined desert or flooded. Antarctica will be a tropical paradise, roughly the size of Australia. We can charge exorbitant prices to live!

Speaking of which when do we teach the penguins to fly?

Thats what those MiGs are for...

Because someday they will be as valuable as gold!

But I want ice cream now!

But I want ice cream now!

See... now your catching on.

They can't, I have already laid claim to it. I also joined the UN, so if any nation tries to annex me then I will be protected.

...*looks at Iraq*

Ok, we'll reveal our true plan, who here could stop us anyway?

When global warming melts the polar ice caps and wrecks the rest of the world, me and Blouman will control the only large landmass that isn't a ruined desert or flooded. Antarctica will be a tropical paradise, roughly the size of Australia. We can charge exorbitant prices to live!

Well I just leaked enough to get them worried, I wouldn't release the full plan.

Thats what those MiGs are for...

Well that's my point, we have the penguins flying it. So when we say the penguins are coming to destroy you they will have their eyes in the sea when in reality they will be coming by air. Bwahahaha Death from above.

Oh, please. They lost to the polar bears in the Arctic War, for Chrissakes.

You obviously haven't been invited to the Penguins ice palace have you?

http://www.treehugger.com/polar-bear-bear-skin-rug-threatened-status.jpg

You obviously haven't been invited to the Penguins ice palace have you?
You obviously haven't been invited to the Arctic. Narry a penguin to be found =P

You obviously haven't been invited to the Arctic. Narry a penguin to be found =P

You must have only been there in the winter. Everyone knows that birds fly south for the winter! And penguins are birds too!

You obviously haven't been invited to the Arctic. Narry a penguin to be found =P

That's because the polar bears don't recycle, sir, leading to their own sun-induced doom.

http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/environment/gallery/2007/oct/24/wildlife.photography/GD5093795@Image-and-information-7937.jpg

That's because the polar bears don't recycle, sir, leading to their own sun-induced doom.

http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/environment/gallery/2007/oct/24/wildlife.photography/GD5093795@Image-and-information-7937.jpg

It's all the polar bears fault.

You must have only been there in the winter. Everyone knows that birds fly south for the winter! And penguins are birds too!Penguins are possibly the stupidest birds after the dodos. Why? They only know how to fly underwater.
That's because the polar bears don't recycle, sir, leading to their own sun-induced doom.

http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/environment/gallery/2007/oct/24/wildlife.photography/GD5093795@Image-and-information-7937.jpg
You really should read the threads you post in. I've already revealed that global warming is a plot engineered by the penguins to get back at their arch nemeses, the polar bears.

That's because the polar bears don't recycle, sir, leading to their own sun-induced doom.

http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/environment/gallery/2007/oct/24/wildlife.photography/GD5093795@Image-and-information-7937.jpg

That's what you think. That "melting iceberg" there is the periscope of the Polar Bear's Type-24 camouflaged missile submarine. Unlike the Penguins, they know better than to openly expose their weapons technology.

That's what you think. That "melting iceberg" there is the periscope of the Polar Bear's Type-24 camouflaged missile submarine. Unlike the Penguins, they know better than to openly expose their weapons technology.

Yeah, the penguins really gave it away when they did a cameo on the Simpsons.
http://www.4freeimagehost.com/resized/e27c441b3a5b.png (http://www.4freeimagehost.com/show.php?i=e27c441b3a5b.png)

Penguins are possibly the stupidest birds after the dodos. Why? They only know how to fly underwater.


Not as dumb as you think. They can operate a Boeing 777, that's the only way to fly!

Penguins are possibly the stupidest birds after the dodos. Why? They only know how to fly underwater.

Pfft, please. Any bird can fly in the air, how many can birds can fly underwater?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Pfft, please. Any bird can fly in the air, how many can birds can fly underwater?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Actually, many birds can: dippers, auks, guillemots, and a whole lot of which I haven't got a clue about their English names.

Can't be done. Treaties already exist.

All the current treaties do is just temporarily set aside previoius claims. Australia's position (afaik) is that it still 'owns' the territory, it's just willing to ignore it and allow the current treaty setup. If the treaty is revoked by Aus or is dismantled by others then Aus automatically will 'own' (internal PoV only) 80% (or was it 40%?) or so of Antarctica.

I know your a male Calli I tried to place something that looked like a nun habit for the lady folks out there and for laughs.
You never know online. I've been mistaken about people's genders several times. Imagine my shock when I found out that Euroslavia was actually male and Muravyts was female.

Good luck with that mate, after 10 years service you get penguin citizenship.
Fuck yeah, it's gonna be great.

You never know online. I've been mistaken about people's genders several times. Imagine my shock when I found out that Euroslavia was actually male and Muravyts was female.

Yeah that's true but I'm pretty sure I have seen you state your gender before. As for Euroslavia, it shocked me too, I always thought he was female.