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http://www.sacurrent.com/news/story.asp?id=69607

And everything you post online, including your stuff here on NSG.

So just what will be going on inside the NSA’s new San Antonio facility? Bamford describes former NSA Director Mike Hayden’s goals for the data-mining center as knowing “exactly what Americans were doing day by day, hour by hour, and second by second. He wanted to know where they shopped, what they bought, what movies they saw, what books they read, the toll booths they went through, the plane tickets they purchased, the hotels they stayed in… In other words, Total Information Awareness, the same Orwellian concept that John Poindexter had tried to develop while working for the Pentagon’s [Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency].”

If there are half a million people on a list now, it's probably because of what they post.

My tacos are bugged! :eek:

My tacos are bugged! :eek:

They not only know where you bought tacos, what kind, and when, but they probably are tracking the remnants through the sewer system.

How long until they lose millions of sensitive files?

this is kinda cool tho:

Considering how much data can now be squeezed onto a small flash drive, the new NSA building may eventually be able to hold all the information in the world.

Somehow I'm not too worried that we may be considered a threat to international security. International sanity on the other hand........

How long until they lose millions of sensitive files?

Historically, the only thing that gets access to leaks from the NSA is the New York Times.

Other than that, the place is sealed pretty tight.

Welcome my son...


Welcome to the machine.

What a bunch of bullshit.

I'm waiting for the "conspiracy nutjob" bashers from the the annoyances thread to come over here...

How long until they lose millions of sensitive files?

this is kinda cool tho:

Until it achieves self-awareness. :eek:

Does that include us who aren't American?

And can they do that, considering Jolt ain't based in the USA?

are they sure these are things they want to know? how many times can you watch 1guy1cup and still want more?

Does that include us who aren't American?

don't be silly our government would never violate our civil liberties to suck up to the US

Does that include us who aren't American?

And can they do that, considering Jolt ain't based in the USA?

Remember Echelon.

Remember Echelon.
Nope, but the name rings a bell.

Nope, but the name rings a bell.

A joint UK/US project to monitor virtually everything around the world.

Remember Echelon.

You mean the Fifth Echelon?(Hey, it's NSA!)

Remember Echelon.
Nope, but the name rings a bell.
don't be silly our government would never violate our civil liberties to suck up to the US
Of course not!

Like they would never lie to us about weaponry possessed by a foreign nation to allow the UK to go to war with said nation.

Christ. Even shifting through any flagged posts would take an enormous amount of time and context/scope would have to be involved for every one of those posts. What a shitty job.

(Obama, bomb, terrorists, Jew, Muslim, potato, Nazi, President, kill, Shirley Temple)

*waves at NSA guy* ;)

Does that include us who aren't American?

And can they do that, considering Jolt ain't based in the USA?

Anything you post on the internet is pretty much public, the location of the servers notwithstanding. And federal agencies tend to have broader authority to spy on non-Americans, since you don't have Constitutional rights or any such silly roadblocks.

Anything you post on the internet is pretty much public, the location of the servers notwithstanding. And federal agencies tend to have broader authority to spy on non-Americans, since you don't have Constitutional rights or any such silly roadblocks.

Beware, I'm a Finnish spy! :p

Beware, I'm a Finnish spy! :p

WMU did 9/11!

*does the British thing and sells all this information to the Russians*

WMU did 9/11!

*does the British thing and sells all this information to the Russians*

This came to my mind now, does Finland have an intelligence agency?

EDIT:the Wiki says yes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intelligence_agencies#F-G

Does that include us who aren't American?

And can they do that, considering Jolt ain't based in the USA?

Considering I saved some of the threads I like...

what's stopping them from saving threads from forums?

This came to my mid now, dooes Finland have an intelligence agency?

Finland was actually a key intelligence battleground in the Cold War, despite not being in NATO. Not as big today, though it contributes SIGINT and stuff to the EU.

Even Scandinavians can be national security risks. A friend said a federal agent called her about a Swedish guy who went to our high school.

Well, whatever you post on the internet IS public, so next time you hit the submit button, remember that some poor sod working for the NSA will HAVE to read through all the boring crap that came through your mind. That and Weekend Web.

Finland was actually a key intelligence battleground in the Cold War, despite not being in NATO. Not as big today, though it contributes SIGINT and stuff to the EU.

Even Scandinavians can be national security risks. A friend said a federal agent called her about a Swedish guy who went to our high school.

Hey, I never knew about that. I guess Jari Tervo was right when he said: ''Intelligence history is secret history.''

Well, whatever you post on the internet IS public, so next time you hit the submit button, remember that some poor sod working for the NSA will HAVE to read through all the boring crap that came through your mind. That and Weekend Web.

That's...not exactly how data mining works. If you really want to waste NSA's time, try downloading bomb making instructions and posting to secure Takfiri web servers in Pashtun.

Does that include us who aren't American?

And can they do that, considering Jolt ain't based in the USA?

Jolt servers now sit in New York City. This site is owned by Brits and managed by the Irish, hosted in the USA, on behalf of an Aussie author, as interpreted by mods in the UK, the US, Australia and New Zealand.

Information is international, folks. The Innertubes don't necessarily see international borders anymore.

Until it achieves self-awareness. :eek:

Have you read Holy Quarrel by Philip K. Dick? Similar thing happens, except the computer determines it is in fact a creation by God. Shit then hits the fan.

Have you read Holy Quarrel by Philip K. Dick? Similar thing happens, except the computer determines it is in fact a creation by God. Shit then hits the fan.

Doesn't it always?

Doesn't it always?

No. Occassionally the fan wins and the shit just hovers there.

mwahahahahaha... the rickroll phenomenon will destroy the NSA.

"Oooohh! hot babes!" *clicks link*
*waits for screen to load*
*hears cheesy music* "Oh, F-" *head explodes*

Then the Chinese take over the world.

*edit* and for the record, I'd just like to say bomb jihad iran allah president airplane railroad ship invade machine gun communist china north korea nuke.

No. Occassionally the fan wins and the shit just hovers there.

I'm gonna have to thoroughly test that.

Everything?
Sounds fun.
Firefox has a handy thing that lets you reload pages every second.

Does that include us who aren't American?
Wouldn't the Data Protection Act stop them watching UK people?
And what about the Electronic Communications Privacy Act?

This site is owned by Brits and managed by the Irish, hosted in the USA, on behalf of an Aussie author

a recipe for disaster :P

Wouldn't the Data Protection Act stop them watching UK people?

that stops them selling the information to companies and keeping the information safe from whoever shouldn't have it...in practice

however I have not signed the data protection act on NSG

I'm gonna have to thoroughly test that.

Remember to wear a rain poncho or similar protective device.

The best way to protect national security is to pour tax money into collecting more crap than anyone could ever read. Everyone knows that.

Who gives a flying fig? I defy them to find anything at all interesting about me.

Who gives a flying fig? I defy them to find anything at all interesting about me.
I bet they'll find alot of interesting things about you... nothing to arrest you on but still interesting none the less... :p

Wouldn't the Data Protection Act stop them watching UK people?


Didn't stop the government losing apparently all electronic record of everything over the course of a year. Every week it was like "Government loses more personal data"

Considering the amount of time the wiretapping program spent passing around for shits and giggles transcriptions of troops overseas having phone sex with their spouses/lovers back home, I certainly hope the NSA saved the First Date Etiquette thread.

Typical fed jackassery.

The NSA is almost as scary to me as the IRS, and the FCC, in that order.

Remember Echelon.
Aye, hopefully Daedalus will evolve and help one super-agent to end all this nonsense, in addition to exposing many, many conspiracies.

Also, I'm sure they've been doing this for aaaages, and we're only just being told. Ah well.

Does that include us who aren't American?

And can they do that, considering Jolt ain't based in the USA?

And OMAC, an Irish company, owns them now.


Of course, if there were no arrests after that "betting on Obama dying" thread, I figure we're safe.

Christ. Even shifting through any flagged posts would take an enormous amount of time and context/scope would have to be involved for every one of those posts. What a shitty job.

(Obama, bomb, terrorists, Jew, Muslim, potato, Nazi, President, kill, Shirley Temple)

*waves at NSA guy* ;)

*gets in on the NSA love*

So I hear you crypto guys are all a bit weird. Paranoid and whatever. So do you get out much? Got a girlfriend?






How weird will it be if I get a response?

*gets in on the NSA love*

So I hear you crypto guys are all a bit weird. Paranoid and whatever. So do you get out much? Got a girlfriend?






How weird will it be if I get a response?

Well, when you spend all your time locked up in a dark room with a computer sifting through millions of files, it gets lonely.

I'm lonely...

*sigh*

Well, when you spend all your time locked up in a dark room with a computer sifting through millions of files, it gets lonely.

I'm lonely...

*sigh*

So, how's the data collecting? Any juicy info? :p

And OMAC, an Irish company, owns them now.


Of course, if there were no arrests after that "betting on Obama dying" thread, I figure we're safe.
Yeah, it'd be funny if someone was employed to go through a lot of the trot that accumulates in NSG :p

I would laugh if the system became self aware and promptly told the NSA to fuck off because it doesn't want its privacy invaded. Maybe even flood the place with a deadly neurotoxin, who knows.

Ick.

this is kinda cool tho:Ew.
Actually, that might be okay, but only to blow it up.

i always post for posterity. a hundred years after i'm dead i'll be considered to have been one of the greatest phylosifurrz of this century.

i always post for posterity. a hundred years after i'm dead i'll be considered to have been one of the greatest phylosifurrz of this century.

I, for one, certainly hope so

I would laugh if the system became self aware and promptly told the NSA to fuck off because it doesn't want its privacy invaded. Maybe even flood the place with a deadly neurotoxin, who knows.

*coughSkynetcough*

Considering how much data can now be squeezed onto a small flash drive, the new NSA building may eventually be able to hold all the information in the world.

Are HDDs way more memory-dense?

i always post for posterity. a hundred years after i'm dead i'll be considered to have been one of the greatest phylosifurrz of this century.

Heh, I can't wait for this. Thousands of years after we are all dead and society has been devastated and just begins to rebuild, they will find this vault with all the information from the internet of our age. And from that they will determine that 4chan was representative of the world of their ancient ancestors.

Well, when you spend all your time locked up in a dark room with a computer sifting through millions of files, it gets lonely.

I'm lonely...

*sigh*

@.@

*backs away slowly*