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Seriously, what music makes you rock? This thread is dedicated to all things that rock! Any music stemming from the birth of rock until today. From Chuck Barry to Metallica, whatever it is, rock it out here!

Right now, its King Diamond's Them.



P.S. There is an argument going on being me and my friends about who is the true father of rock and roll? Chuck Barry or Elvis? Half have sided with elvis and the other half Barry (i am on barry's side, elvis is insanely overrated)

or if you have another opinion on who the godfather of rock debate it here!


rock on NSG!

Chuck Barry?

Right now, its King Diamond's Them.



Good.




Right now, for me, its Behexen - My Soul for His Glory.

Also there is no way in Hell Elvis could ever be compared to Rock and Roll, let alone founding it.

Chuck Barry?

Didn't he do The Gong Show?

Chuck Barry?

johnny b goode chuck barry!

(i could be spelling his name wrong, that tends to happen)

Also there is no way in Hell Elvis could ever be compared to Rock and Roll, let alone founding it.

That is what I have been trying to tell my friend tim, but he just wont buy it.

If elvis is the king of anything its pop music.

johnny b goode chuck barry!

(i could be spelling his name wrong, that tends to happen)

Berry.

If elvis is the king of anything its pop music.

Not even that. He wasn't even a very good pop musician.

this week, i've mostly been rocking out to Arsis

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgWDJL66Hw

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2UbaLGImVLg

I can't really comment on the Elvis/Chuck deal. I wasn't around then, but I do have tunes from both.

What makes me rock? Lots and lots of stuff. Europe is playing right now, but I might have to skip past it to some Exodus. I'm not really in the mood for stuff like the Beach Boys or the Aquabats today.

wiki says Jackie Brenston and I agree with that.

and face it Elvis is rock (a pop orientated product of the time as he was) not that I involve myself with such music (its all noise I tell ya!)

I can't really comment on the Elvis/Chuck deal. I wasn't around then, but I do have tunes from both.

What makes me rock? Lots and lots of stuff. Europe is playing right now, but I might have to skip past it to some Exodus. I'm not really in the mood for stuff like the Beach Boys or the Aquabats today.

is it true that europe became arch enemy.

Berry.

i figured it was wrong, thanks for the correction.

and face it Elvis is rock (a pop orientated product of the time as he was) not that I involve myself with such music (its all noise I tell ya!)

elvis is suck-rock though.

wiki says Jackie Brenston and I agree with that.

and face it Elvis is rock (a pop orientated product of the time as he was) not that I involve myself with such music (its all noise I tell ya!)

Elvis was not Rock.

is it true that europe became arch enemy.

Uhh, no? They're both Swedish but that's like all they have in common. Arch Enemy is death metal, Europe is just rock.

The other big debate between friends is the Zeppelin/Sabbath "who is the king of metal" debate

The other big debate between friends is the Zeppelin/Sabbath "who is the king of metal" debate

Zeppelin were not metal.

Uhh, no? They're both Swedish but that's like all they have in common. Arch Enemy is death metal, Europe is just rock.


ok, i found it hard to believe myself.

is it true that europe became arch enemy.

Oh God no. The Guitar Player from Carcass formed Arch Enemy. Europe is still around.

Elvis was not Rock.

Yes, he actually is. Proto-Rock, but rock none the less.

Yes, he actually is. Proto-Rock, but rock none the less.

No, he was pure pop.

Yes, he actually is. Proto-Rock, but rock none the less.

:confused:

Proto-Rock?

The other big debate between friends is the Zeppelin/Sabbath "who is the king of metal" debate

Lemmy is the king of metal, how do you not know that?

:confused:

Proto-Rock?

Like Little Richard and Chuck Berry. However that label should never be applied to Elvis.

Lemmy is the king of metal, how do you not know that?

Lemmy and Ozzy in my mind.

(and i dont mean the modern day pop Ozzy either)

No, he was pure pop.

Actually, at the time, Elvis was edgy (rock), and scared the crap out of parents.

Actually, at the time, Elvis was edgy (rock), and scared the crap out of parents.

his gyrating hips scared parents, not his music.

No, he was pure pop.

Maybe by today's standards of rock.

The other big debate between friends is the Zeppelin/Sabbath "who is the king of metal" debate

You cant narrow it down to just one band that "started" metal.

Sabbath, Rush, Cream, Blue Oyster Cult, various punk acts, and even classical music (Metallica for example was really into Wagner) all had a hand in it.

his gyrating hips scared parents, not his music.

His music did too, because he was using elements of "black music".

I believe Zeppelin was the beginning of Hard Rock, and Guns and Roses (pre-break up) was the end of Hard Rock.

You cant narrow it down to just one band that "started" metal.

Sabbath, Rush, Cream, Blue Oyster Cult, various punk acts, and even classical music (Metallica for example was really into Wagner) all had a hand in it.

Deep Purple...

Deep Purple...

Judas priest and Alice Cooper should be on that list too.....

Also there is no way in Hell Elvis could ever be compared to Rock and Roll

Your opinion about anything to do with music is henceforth invalid.

Judas priest and Alice Cooper should be on that list too.....

Alice yea, Priest no.

Deep Purple...

Of course, I was just rambling off names.

Judas priest and Alice Cooper should be on that list too.....

Except Judas Priest was a metal band. We're talking pre-metal here.

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Yeah, Im going to have to side with Chuck Berry on this one...Elvis may have been a little more successful, But, Berry has the trump card of Having Written his own songs...I was quite Disillusioned with Elvis when I found out he didnt write his own songs :(...Although we all know Marty McFly was the true Inspiration behind Berry's stylings :p lol...


And, Ive recently re-gotten into Five Horse Johnson, Ive had "No.6 Dance" for years after hearing "Mississippi King" on THUG...but, ive recently picked up "the Mystery Spot" and its pretty kick ass...

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HELLFIRE!!!
*blastbeats*

Ok ---

Max Barry -- author of Jennifer Government and owner of this wonderful site.
Chuck Barris -- host of the Gong Show waaaaay back when I was a kid.
Chuck Berry -- rock and roll legend. (Oh Maybelline, why can'tcha be true?)

I believe Zeppelin was the beginning of Hard Rock, and Guns and Roses (pre-break up) was the end of Hard Rock.

The Beatles started Hard Rock.

Seriously, what music makes you rock? This thread is dedicated to all things that rock! Any music stemming from the birth of rock until today. From Chuck Barry to Metallica, whatever it is, rock it out here!

Right now, its King Diamond's Them.



P.S. There is an argument going on being me and my friends about who is the true father of rock and roll? Chuck Barry or Elvis? Half have sided with elvis and the other half Barry (i am on barry's side, elvis is insanely overrated)

or if you have another opinion on who the godfather of rock debate it here!


rock on NSG!
Rhopsody of Fire - Symphonic Rock

The Beatles started Hard Rock.

i think thatd depend on your definition of 'Hard Rock'...The Beatles werent nearly as heavy as Zepplin, Sabbath, and AC/DC...

The Beatles started Hard Rock.

Wait...let me get this straight...

Elvis is pop music, not rock. But the fucking Beatles are hard rock, and not pop music?
*facepalms*

The Beatles started Hard Rock.

The Beatles were proto-hard rock.

The other big debate between friends is the Zeppelin/Sabbath "who is the king of metal" debate

well, who started metal is the question for those two.

it was sabbath, btw. zeppelin were influential in guitar-driven hard rock, but metal, as we know it, was sabbath. [/debate] (cos i say so)

it was sabbath, btw. zeppelin were influential in guitar-driven hard rock, but metal, as we know it, was sabbath. [/debate] (cos i say so)

Other bands were just as influential as sabbath.

Other bands were just as influential as sabbath.
If we're going with 'influence', then the first human who ever banged a stick on a rock in some form of rythm invented hard rock/metal/all music... and even they were influenced by the surrounding humans, noises of nature, etc.

As far as the Zepplin vs Sabbath Debate......Idk, Sabbath was a little heavier...But as far as sheer numbers of Metal Bands influenced...

it could go either way...

If we're going with 'influence', then the first human who ever banged a stick on a rock in some form of rythm invented hard rock/metal/all music... and even they were influenced by the surrounding humans, noises of nature, etc.

:p


It should be apperant we're not talking that broadly.

The Kinks

As far as the Zepplin vs Sabbath Debate......Idk, Sabbath was a little heavier...But as far as sheer numbers of Metal Bands influenced...

it could go either way...

Metal was mostly a fusion of hard rock and blues. Sabbath was that heavy, blusie influence. To call them or any other band of that era, specifically a metal band would be a mistake. They are certainly important to the genre and helped with its creation but they don't quite fit the mold of what metal is. Kind of like Elvis and rock

It should be apperant we're not talking that broadly.
On one hand, yes, obviously. But on the other, I think the point sort of stands.

You're influenced by so much around you, so many disparate elements of so much diverse music (and non-musical influences; it's no coincidence, for example, that techno emerged in industrial Detroit) that pinning down a single 'originator' for a musical genre seems in some way pointless to me.

V8 turbocharged racing style rocking chair with ergonomic lumbar support.

Many singers are hard to pin down, as genres change and evolve over time. Elvis was considered a rock musician in his day, however he was more gospel than anything else, for if he had his way he would have done mainly gospel and worship music from what I've been told. He is very well respected by modern country fans as well. Mr. Presley was one of the founding fathers of rock, no denying it, for he brought it out into mainstream, but he is also the progenitor of modern country music, as well as a great southern gospel singer. I could go into others, but since Elvis was the one mentioned, I decided to discuss him.
What do I rock out to? Ozzy Osbourne, Twisted Sister, Saliva, Run DMC; et al.

Seriously, what music makes you rock? This thread is dedicated to all things that rock! Any music stemming from the birth of rock until today. From Chuck Barry to Metallica, whatever it is, rock it out here!

Right now, its King Diamond's Them.

P.S. There is an argument going on being me and my friends about who is the true father of rock and roll? Chuck Barry or Elvis? Half have sided with elvis and the other half Barry (i am on barry's side, elvis is insanely overrated)

or if you have another opinion on who the godfather of rock debate it here!

rock on NSG!

Buddy Holly, the grandfather of rock.

If we're going with 'influence', then the first human who ever banged a stick on a rock in some form of rythm invented hard rock/metal/all music... and even they were influenced by the surrounding humans, noises of nature, etc.

Yeah, the music with rocks!
Metal was by that one guy in the bronze age ;)

Metal was mostly a fusion of hard rock and blues. Sabbath was that heavy, blusie influence. To call them or any other band of that era, specifically a metal band would be a mistake. They are certainly important to the genre and helped with its creation but they don't quite fit the mold of what metal is. Kind of like Elvis and rock

Exactly...Had a thought...What about Van Halen?

Slayer (even though its not rock)

My favourite rock/metal music of the moment is the album 'Traced in Air' by Cynic. To come back after so long and produce something so amazing...wow. Memo to all other bands: give up, you'll never beat this. Oh...and, on the question of who started rock, metal or whatever, I'm going to have to be honest and answer "couldn't care less". Sorry.

Wait...let me get this straight...

Elvis is pop music, not rock. But the fucking Beatles are hard rock, and not pop music?
*facepalms*

Well, the Beatles were pop/psychedelic/rock and roll etc, but they kicked off other bands ie the Kinks, who would go on to create Hard Rock.

Well, the Beatles were pop/psychedelic/rock and roll etc, but they kicked off other bands ie the Kinks, who would go on to create Hard Rock.
That doesn't make them rock, though, just influential.
Not that it really matters, these genealogical arguments are pretty pointless given that genres are arbitrary qualifications. Whether the Beatles were the originators of rock or not, I have no interest in listening to them, nor am I under any obligation to do so.

Whether the Beatles were the originators of rock or not, I have no interest in listening to them, nor am I under any obligation to do so.

Yep. This.

Mozart (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyy3sTH2n80) :p

Third Eye Blind, AC/DC, Blink 182, to name a few

well, who started metal is the question for those two.

it was sabbath, btw. zeppelin were influential in guitar-driven hard rock, but metal, as we know it, was sabbath. [/debate] (cos i say so)

i believe they both started metal, zeppelin started the progressive, bluesy style of metal, and sabbath obvioiusly started the darker side of metal.

[/debate]

Slayer (even though its not rock)

metal counts on this thread.

I'm more into Progressive then anything else. Alan Parsons Project, King Crimson, Procol Harum, Genesis.

Anaal Nathrakh and Emperor.

Seriously, what music makes you rock? This thread is dedicated to all things that rock! Any music stemming from the birth of rock until today. From Chuck Barry to Metallica, whatever it is, rock it out here!

Right now, its King Diamond's Them.



P.S. There is an argument going on being me and my friends about who is the true father of rock and roll? Chuck Barry or Elvis? Half have sided with elvis and the other half Barry (i am on barry's side, elvis is insanely overrated)

or if you have another opinion on who the godfather of rock debate it here!


rock on NSG!

Of one, i'm certain ... Liquid Tension Experiment.
Always.

Deep Purple...

I love Deep Purple, but are they metal?

*awaits slap over head for enjoying bands and having no idea what their genre is*

metal counts on this thread.

I would also argue that metal fits under the wider umbrella genre of rock music. Just as all primates are also mammals, though not all mammals are primates.

I love Deep Purple, but are they metal?

*awaits slap over head for enjoying bands and having no idea what their genre is*

Close, but no they are not metal. Nor is Led Zeppelin, if you were going to ask.

fossilization. its really hard to resist.

fossilization. its really hard to resist.

I'm petrified...

Close, but no they are not metal. Nor is Led Zeppelin, if you were going to ask.

Well that's why I was asking, someone mentoined they were (maybe the person I quoted) and I didn't think they were.

Well that's why I was asking, someone mentoined they were (maybe the person I quoted) and I didn't think they were.

Someone mentioned they had their hand in the origins of metal;)

Right now, it's Electric Six's "I'm the Bomb". Total confident strut music.

They Might Be Giants, The Who, Flight of the Conchords and stuff I've picked up from Guitar Hero World Tour.

Right now I'm goorving, actually, to Sister Nancy's Bam Bam. Does that count?

Amon Amarth - Siegreicher Marsch

Epic.

Close, but no they are not metal. Nor is Led Zeppelin, if you were going to ask.

zeppelin is hard rock.

A bit of JET always goes down well.

another big debate is the "beatles / Rolling Stones, who is better?" debate.

AC/DC. You can't beat them.

AC/DC. You can't beat them.

for a band that could only play 3 chords, they kick some serious ass.

At the moment, I'm listening to "Meet Me At The Carrousel" by Unexpect. Spectacularly and wonderfully bonkers.

AC/DC. You can't beat them.

I am still convinced they have just been playing Nutbush City Limits (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ipOz_k9zvzo) by Ike and Tina Turner but slightly slower for the last 35 years.

Seriously, what music makes you rock? This thread is dedicated to all things that rock! Any music stemming from the birth of rock until today. From Chuck Barry to Metallica, whatever it is, rock it out here!

Right now, its King Diamond's Them.



P.S. There is an argument going on being me and my friends about who is the true father of rock and roll? Chuck Barry or Elvis? Half have sided with elvis and the other half Barry (i am on barry's side, elvis is insanely overrated)

or if you have another opinion on who the godfather of rock debate it here!


rock on NSG!

Black Sabbath, most of the time. AC/DC and Aerosmith as well.

And as for godfather of rock? Chuck Berry, hands down. Elvis may have been provocative, but he did far too many show tunes. Plus, Berry defined the guitar style of rock'n'roll, which is the most distinctive part.

And as for godfather of rock? Chuck Berry, hands down. Elvis may have been provocative, but he did far too many show tunes. Plus, Berry defined the guitar style of rock'n'roll, which is the most distinctive part.

Exactly what I have been trying to tell my friend this whole time, but he just wont budge...

Thousand Foot Krutch, POD, Project 86. As you may know, though, I'm a banjo-pickin' bluegrass fan so I listen to folk music a lot more than rock.

Chuck Barry pwns Elvis, and the Rolling Stones fail to impress me

And Chuck Barry pwns Elvis.

Indeed.

Exactly what I have been trying to tell my friend this whole time, but he just wont budge...

Damn, stubborn guy (My dad calls himself a rock n roll fan and thinks Chuck Berry is generic. Which is actually kinda funny) Additionally, you could say that Elvis could be and was eventually tamed. Chuck Berry, however, remained wild despite multiple jail sentences. And what's rock'n'roll all about, anyway?

Damn, stubborn guy (My dad calls himself a rock n roll fan and thinks Chuck Berry is generic. Which is actually kinda funny) Additionally, you could say that Elvis could be and was eventually tamed. Chuck Berry, however, remained wild despite multiple jail sentences. And what's rock'n'roll all about, anyway?


rock'n'roll was about doin drugs, doin time, doin chicks, and dying before you get a life sentence.

right now im rocking out to zeppelins finest album physical graffiti.

If Chuck Berry had been white, we would never have heard about Elvis.

for a band that could only play 3 chords, they kick some serious ass.

Hey, all you need is Three chords and the truth. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ThreeChordsAndTheTruth

I'm currently rocking out to 'Red Dawn Rising' by Eternal Tears of Sorrow. Epic.

Drum and bass.

Konnya Wa Boogie Back, by RIZER and Utada Hikaru. I can't stop bobbing my head. :D

Deep Purple - Bad Attitude

The Chuck Berry thing, you chaps are correct.

What makes me rock? Well lots of stuff, currently though it's Buddy Guy and AC/DC. Gota love that riffage!

SOAD can be a lot of fun in a crowd of drunks that know the gist of the songs at least. Failing that, everyone knows Metallica well enough to grunt/yell incoherently along with them.

Rock N' Roll makes me Rock.

So does Autism...

I've been listening to mainly Rory Gallagher for the past week.

I've been listening to mainly Rory Gallagher for the past week.

Ohhh nice. Now that man could play, and sing come to think of it.

SOAD can be a lot of fun in a crowd of drunks that know the gist of the songs at least. Failing that, everyone knows Metallica well enough to grunt/yell incoherently along with them.

I've seen SOAD twice, and they kicked ass both times. Wasn't drunk at either show though.

My itunes on shuffle just came up with "Arms" by Genghis Tron. Top choon (I believe thats what the kids say, nowadays :p). Its rare to hear something so innovative and different that doesn't come across a bit pretentious.

rock'n'roll was about doin drugs, doin time, doin chicks, and dying before you get a life sentence.

Exactly my point.

another big debate is the "beatles / Rolling Stones, who is better?" debate.
Beatles hands down. If for nothing else, at least the Beatles knew when to call it quits and not ruin a good thing. The Stones still haven't learned that lesson.

Hell the first big Stones hit was a Lennon/McCartney song.

this week, i've mostly been rocking out to Arsis

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-lgWDJL66Hw

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2UbaLGImVLg
When you get older.....when your hearing is shot to hell, and your nerves are frazzled, you will be very glad to hear this (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kGrhzCgy_bg&feature=related). :D

Beatles hands down. If for nothing else, at least the Beatles knew when to call it quits and not ruin a good thing. The Stones still haven't learned that lesson.

Hell the first big Stones hit was a Lennon/McCartney song.
The Beatles....Yea....Yea...Yea

Who did they believe was significant to rock n roll?

The Beatles - Chuck Berry Medley 1969 (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DcIU4_N7JAA)

The Beatles - Johnny B. Goode (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6TAlVQgtkuM&feature=related)

John Lennon & Chuck Berry - Johnny B. Goode (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=45V1Q_C2Wpc&feature=related)

The Beatles "Roll Over Beethoven" (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=45V1Q_C2Wpc&feature=related)

I guess the answer would br Chuck Berry!!

The Beatles....Yea....Yea...Yea

Who did they believe was significant to rock n roll?

The Beatles - Chuck Berry Medley 1969 (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=DcIU4_N7JAA)

The Beatles - Johnny B. Goode (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6TAlVQgtkuM&feature=related)

John Lennon & Chuck Berry - Johnny B. Goode (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=45V1Q_C2Wpc&feature=related)

The Beatles "Roll Over Beethoven" (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=45V1Q_C2Wpc&feature=related)

I guess the answer would br Chuck Berry!!Don't get me wrong, Chuck Berry for the beginnings of Rock 'n Roll. But Minoriteeburg raised the Rolling Stones or Beatles question.

Also, if you are figuring that those who influence are more important than those they influence, then we need to track down the first musician.

Don't get me wrong, Chuck Berry for the beginnings of Rock 'n Roll. But Minoriteeburg raised the Rolling Stones or Beatles question.

Also, if you are figuring that those who influence are more important than those they influence, then we need to track down the first musician.
Beatles over Stones hands down. I certainly wasn't knocking them. :)

Right now it's some, B.B. King.

The new Sargeist EP is what Im currently listening to. My friend got it on 7" vynal, micced it while it was playing, burned it to his PC, and burned me a copy.

Callisdrun will appreciate the kvltness of this.

I like the classics - Queen, the Doors, Metallica, Iron Maiden.

I enjoy Pink Floyd (hell year), OLD Metallica (Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and Justice for All), Queen, Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin (greatest. band. ever.), and a few others I can't remember right now. The classics. From a time when music was actually good and not cheap and mass produced like some radio-active lead-filled teddy bear from China.

Many bands make me rock. But the first song that came up when I shuffled my mp3 player just now was...Sehnsucht by Einsturzende Neubauten...Wait that's not rock. Let's try again....Ghost on the Highway by The Gun Club. Okay we'll go with that. The Gun Club makes me rock :D

Atm, bit of the Pogues.. Going down very well.

I enjoy Pink Floyd (hell year), OLD Metallica (Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and Justice for All), Queen, Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin (greatest. band. ever.), and a few others I can't remember right now. The classics. From a time when music was actually good and not cheap and mass produced like some radio-active lead-filled teddy bear from China.

Heheh this line of rhetoric always makes me giggle. I'm getting on in years now, and yes I still enjoy the classics and the music of my youth, but there is some really, really good modern music around.

Music is an every evolving thing, and to remain in the past(musicaly) just makes no sense to me.

Now I'm rocking to Schadarapar feat. Utada Hikaru with Konya Wa Boogie Back, but the original version.

Right now I'm listening to Wierd Al and Modest Mouse.

Right now I'm listening to 'Singing Burgers with Attitude' by Ultimate Army of Prawns. Rap metal song about a bunch of burgers angry about vegetarians hating on them. Includes the immortal line 'do you have beef with us, cos we've got beef with ourselves'. Yeh...is there anywhere I can buy a normal music taste?:p

they may not be a rock band, but the talking heads are fucking awesome.

I'm sorry but this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0YUA3yTUss

..pwns anything elvis has ever done.

this makes me rock most of all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CYwNWHZuT0

this makes me rock most of all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CYwNWHZuT0

That was rather awesome.

That was rather awesome.

Was one of the greatest bands of the 80s-90s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDBIbJKjAZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_1RqyNdzbE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M89c3hWx3RQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBp3HzWzNus $$
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLa08J6rv4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uXu067MTqI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjxFGbToVFM $$

I have once been told that "Led Zeppelin has no soul".

how can you say that when you see this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89yw7wqoaio)