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Ok, so with the crappy economy and the fact that I couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy. I've decided to see if I can't start my own business. Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income. So, right now I am meditating, talking to friends, talking to local businessmen, about starting my own small business. However, there are parameters.

1. It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

2. I hate getting up anytime before 12pm, and I don't go to bed before 2am. Sometimes 5am if it's a really good Coast to Coast AM.

3. I am not a people person, I can handle one, maybe two, but that's pretty much it.

4. I don't expect to become an overnight millionaire, but it does need to allow me to pay the bills and have some left over for fun.

5. It has to be legal and ethical. I may be an ass and a pervert, but I'm an ass and a pervert with standards dammit.

Also, I'm serious about the 10%. I have a paypal account, and if you don't trust me, have Neo Art or one of the other lawyers draw up a contract and I'll sign it.

Wait... You have standards? HOLY CRAP!

Kidding of course. ;) I don't think starting up a small business will be easy if you have trouble dealing with people (Not that I can say I'm much better off), but, well, what do I know?:D

Good Luck.

do you even have any idea of what KIND of business you want to run?

if you want to move, i think starting a business is the last thing you want to do. unless if its an internet business i guess.

Drive a truck.

If you don't already know what it is you want to do, you've already failed. Running your own business requires both excitement and commitment about your product or service. If you're relying on someone else to provide both the idea and the excitement, write it off. You've got a better chance winning the lottery.

Edit: why the hell would you want to move from NC to PA?

Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income.
I thought the next logical step was robbing a bank and/or grocery store where you work. Maybe I am a fool, however. A bank-robbing, gun-totting fool with golden teeth and shiny rings.

You could lease a refreshment stand, like those guys who stand outside Home Depot or the county courthouse or Lowe's. They usually pay an illegal to sell the frankfurters, but if you did it yourself your margin would be a bit better.

Drive a truck.

Trucks are pretty expensive, yeh? He'd want to be an o/o according to the OP.

Be the bagel man for the district. Like that, you only have to work 5-7 hours a week putting a basket full of bagels and cream cheese and a plywood box saying "BAGELS $1" in the morning and getting the money in the afternoon. And yes, you will be paid 80%-90%. There was a study. Did you read Freakonomics? Starting costs are home-made or wholesale bagels and a bicycle. Also, you will only have to interact with people if they don't pay you.

EDIT: Also, you can earn as much as a researcher in a university. You'll have to put in a few extra hours, though.

Trucks are pretty expensive, yeh? He'd want to be an o/o according to the OP.

If he was to sign on with an existing company as an o/o he could lease the truck from them...

So if I offered to actually help, what is it you're looking to do?

As the one starting the small business, you need to come up with the plan.

If he was to sign on with an existing company as an o/o he could lease the truck from them...

With a good enough credit score, that's probably a possibility. Not a bad idea, come to think of it.

Drive a truck.

This. CB radios are the bomb. And chicks dig truck drivers.

i vote freelance freelancer

You like to fly, right. You have a pilot's license, I think. Parley it into a commercial license. You could ferry people from to places that commercial flights don't cover. I know a lot of people do this, so it's highly competitive, but if you offer some sort of amenities that others don't, it might work.

The beauty of it is you can set your own hours and you only deal with your passengers.

Of course, I've never run a small business in my life, so I probably don't have a clue.

Of course, I've never run a small business in my life, so I probably don't have a clue.

I have, which is why I'm not offering any advice since mine failed... Badly.

I have, which is why I'm not offering any advice since mine failed... Badly.

so your advice is to do the opposite of what you did

Start up your own good delivering service? Either trucks or deliver by plane.

so your advice is to do the opposite of what you did

Yeah...

Wilgrove, if you do start your own business, take it seriously and work your ass of at it.

I've got to agree on the 12PM part...goddamn if I can get up earlier than that. I might be a hard worker, but nyctophilia runs strong in my blood.

wait, why are we coming up with your idea for a small business? If it was a solid idea, wouldn't we just do it and earn 100% of the first paycheck?

Anyway, here are my 'sandwich ideas,' things I want to exist but don't want to invest my life into, so when I come up with them I want a machine I can go to and give the idea to and it gives me a sandwich.

First, a sandwich machine that gives out sandwiches for good ideas-the better the idea, the better the sandwich.

Some of these might be PB&J ideas, but what do you want from me?

Zombie Adventure Town.

It'd be like those BS 'counter terrorist' training camps except that instead of 'dummy terrorists' the participants would be shooting dummy zombies. You'd even go through the "World War Z" inspired 'zombie survival training' before you're unleashed in the mock up town where zombie-fied mannequins pop out to be shot with shotguns, chopped with chainsaws, what have you. I mean, if you're going to be participating BS, why not make it awesome?

I was watching Saturn's new test drive challenge, and while I admire the balls of that I thought the idea of a centralized test drive system is a great idea.

It would be kind of like rental agencies, where you pay a fee to test drive cars. What you get is the ability to test drive several cars in the same category at one stop without the pressure of having a sales person pushing the car on you. For a small fee you get to do your own comparison test.

There are problems I can see with it that whoever goes for the sandwich would have to solve. It'd be hard to get the cars, companies are likely to want you to be on the dealership when they test those cars so that you're more compelled to buy them. So there is a huge overhead to have a good selection of cars on hand for test drives unless you can convince the manufacturers that having cars there is in their best interest and loan them out like they would for magazine test drives.

A website for cell phones that lets users rate and comment on specific business, like "This Jack in the Box is stingy with the dipping sauce, this Cheveron won't give directions without having to buy a map (the instance that brought this on). Users can either log on and find a place that has good comments to do what they need on the road or check to avoid places that has stingy or just ass policies or employees. Or, if they're pissed off, tell someone about it. I think a lot of places don't give a shit about 'return business' because most of their business is transient. They can be dicks because by the time you find out you've already spent your money and you're gone. Franchises are supposed to curb this by offering a same 'standard' everywhere, but like a lot of things, that's a total sham. This is a way to punish the piss-poor and reward the cool.

Boot chains. Sort of, like a cage for motorcycle boots. Racing boots have little studs on the outside of their boots, I think a little metal cage for the soul of a riding boot would be handy, certainly lengthen the life of your footwear, which can take a beating on a motorcycle. I suppose that you could put a little flint in there or something so you can drag your feet and make sparks. But really, it's for boot life.

This might already exist, I just didn't know how to look for it.

A key fob that will activate your cell phone's ringer. At 4am in a Sausalito parking lot, that would have been really handy.

Public transportation GPS. It tells you what buses to take and where to find them, etc. as well as when the next one is coming.

There are problems gallor with all of those (not the least of which, at this point some of these might exist in some form already), but you have to earn your 90% somehow, right?

Ok, so with the crappy economy and the fact that I couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy. I've decided to see if I can't start my own business. Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income. So, right now I am meditating, talking to friends, talking to local businessmen, about starting my own small business. However, there are parameters.

1. It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

2. I hate getting up anytime before 12pm, and I don't go to bed before 2am. Sometimes 5am if it's a really good Coast to Coast AM.

3. I am not a people person, I can handle one, maybe two, but that's pretty much it.

4. I don't expect to become an overnight millionaire, but it does need to allow me to pay the bills and have some left over for fun.

5. It has to be legal and ethical. I may be an ass and a pervert, but I'm an ass and a pervert with standards dammit.

Also, I'm serious about the 10%. I have a paypal account, and if you don't trust me, have Neo Art or one of the other lawyers draw up a contract and I'll sign it.

Don't want to get up too early, don't want to go to bed too early, and don't want to deal with people?

I'll save any ideas I have for someone who is actually serious about it.

Can someone suggest a business I can start? If you do, I'll give you 75% of what I make.

Here are the terms:

I have to make enough to live on
I don't want to do busines with sock-wearers because they're friggin' pretentious.
I don't have to work during odd hours. I don't mean unusual, I mean 1, 3, 5, etc.
I don't want there to be any risk
I don't want to have to enter buildings with cockroaches, or silverfish, or the potential to some day have either.
I want the work to help me meet Sophie Marceau
I want it to help me find my cell phone in Sausalito at 4AM.
I want to be able to finally say, "Now, I'm going to Disney World!"
I will never play strip poker with grandmothers.

More later.

Can someone suggest a business I can start? If you do, I'll give you 75% of what I make.

Here are the terms:

I have to make enough to live on
I don't want to do busines with sock-wearers because they're friggin' pretentious.
I don't have to work during odd hours. I don't mean unusual, I mean 1, 3, 5, etc.
I don't want there to be any risk
I don't want to have to enter buildings with cockroaches, or silverfish, or the potential to some day have either.
I want the work to help me meet Sophie Marceau
I want it to help me find my cell phone in Sausalito at 4AM.
I want to be able to finally say, "Now, I'm going to Disney World!"
I will never play strip poker with grandmothers.

More later.

Dude, you're just not beeee.... wait, what?

I want to meet Sophie Marceau too!

-snip-

So you're lazy, anti-social, and want a get-rich-quick scheme?

If I knew how to make money without doing anything, I wouldn't be telling you about it.

Anyway, here are my 'sandwich ideas,' things I want to exist but don't want to invest my life into, so when I come up with them I want a machine I can go to and give the idea to and it gives me a sandwich.

First, a sandwich machine that gives out sandwiches for good ideas-the better the idea, the better the sandwich.


You just damaged my mind with your level of awesome. Damn you!

Ok, so with the crappy economy and the fact that I couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy. I've decided to see if I can't start my own business. Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income. So, right now I am meditating, talking to friends, talking to local businessmen, about starting my own small business. However, there are parameters.

1. It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

2. I hate getting up anytime before 12pm, and I don't go to bed before 2am. Sometimes 5am if it's a really good Coast to Coast AM.

3. I am not a people person, I can handle one, maybe two, but that's pretty much it.

4. I don't expect to become an overnight millionaire, but it does need to allow me to pay the bills and have some left over for fun.

5. It has to be legal and ethical. I may be an ass and a pervert, but I'm an ass and a pervert with standards dammit.

Also, I'm serious about the 10%. I have a paypal account, and if you don't trust me, have Neo Art or one of the other lawyers draw up a contract and I'll sign it.

If we had an idea where we could make tons of money getting up late and not dealing with people, why would we share it with you for only 10% instead of keeping it for 100%?

brew your own beer sell it.


start by interning with a brew master.
Then go to Belgium tour Chimay monastery's Brewery. then sneak back in at night and steal some of their yeast.
Get yeast back to America make American knock off of Chimay. with out all the charity hoopla and sell for 1 dollar a bottle.

Wilgrove, do you know any foreign languages? You could become a translator. :D

Dude, you're just not beeee.... wait, what?

I want to meet Sophie Marceau too!

You can be my vice president. How does director of communications sound to you?

Well, I had this frickin' crazy dream and idea about toothpaste.

How about chocolate flavoured toothpaste? Please, don't laugh, I'm serious. It could be a big thing. Instead of having mint every single day, chocolate would almost be something to look foward too. It would be one of those things that your kid's nag you to get in the shops. I can't be assed making a business, so I'll just wish you good luck for whatever you choose to do. *nod*

WAIT! New idea! Why don't you make some new American chocolate that doesn't taste as crap and sugary as Hershey's!

Well, I had this frickin' crazy dream and idea about toothpaste.

How about chocolate flavoured toothpaste? Please, don't laugh, I'm serious. It could be a big thing. Instead of having mint every single day, chocolate would almost be something to look foward too. It would be one of those things that your kid's nag you to get in the shops. I can't be assed making a business, so I'll just wish you good luck for whatever you choose to do. *nod*

The Philippines are way ahead of you: http://www.flickr.com/photos/santos/45302747/

I couldn't find any for Western countries, though... Weird, seeing how at least children's toothpaste comes in all kinds of candy flavours.

The Philippines are way ahead of you: http://www.flickr.com/photos/santos/45302747/

I couldn't find any for Western countries, though... Weird, seeing how at least children's toothpaste comes in all kinds of candy flavours.

God damnit! The Philippines have Octopus flavoured ice cream too!

Well, there you go, make one for the western countries!

Security

If we had an idea where we could make tons of money getting up late and not dealing with people, why would we share it with you for only 10% instead of keeping it for 100%?
He didn't say "tons of money," just a living. In which case, it could be something that you think would be a good idea, but would make you less money in the long run than what you do now (or the additional money isn't enough to justify the risk). Maybe you're a morning person or a people person.
I'm more interested in how he intends to track someone down and give them the money, or even what his "first paycheck" will be if he's in business for himself. What if he says, "My jerkass boss docked my wages because I kept showing up drunk during the first week. Please accept this $1.24, and thanks for your help."

However, I've come up with a good idea for Wilgrove, and here it is: Start helping people start up their own business, and charge them 10% of their first month's earnings. Just be careful to make it 10% of the gross, that way they can't scam you.

WAIT A MINUTE!

your first paycheck will be crappy. thats a sucky deal! it takes time to build up your own business.

Well, I had this frickin' crazy dream and idea about toothpaste.

How about chocolate flavoured toothpaste? Please, don't laugh, I'm serious. It could be a big thing. Instead of having mint every single day, chocolate would almost be something to look foward too. It would be one of those things that your kid's nag you to get in the shops. I can't be assed making a business, so I'll just wish you good luck for whatever you choose to do. *nod*

WAIT! New idea! Why don't you make some new American chocolate that doesn't taste as crap and sugary as Hershey's!

We had chocolate toothpaste in the UK in the 80's. I believe they discontinued it, because kids were eating it.

You can be my vice president. How does director of communications sound to you?

Ooh. Would it mean communicating with Sophie Marceau?

:)

We had chocolate toothpaste in the UK in the 80's. I believe they discontinued it, because kids were eating it.

Hmmm... Maybe to keep kid's away from eating it, we put a free mosquito noise recorded in every pack! :)

We had chocolate toothpaste in the UK in the 80's. I believe they discontinued it, because kids were eating it.

If I were using chocolate flavoured toothpaste I totally would eat it. <<

At least I'm old enough to have that keep me from buying any.

So I guess maybe that wouldn't be the kind of money maker you thought it would be, Riopo. :tongue:

Ok, so with the crappy economy and the fact that I couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy. I've decided to see if I can't start my own business. Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income. So, right now I am meditating, talking to friends, talking to local businessmen, about starting my own small business. However, there are parameters.

1. It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

2. I hate getting up anytime before 12pm, and I don't go to bed before 2am. Sometimes 5am if it's a really good Coast to Coast AM.

3. I am not a people person, I can handle one, maybe two, but that's pretty much it.

4. I don't expect to become an overnight millionaire, but it does need to allow me to pay the bills and have some left over for fun.

5. It has to be legal and ethical. I may be an ass and a pervert, but I'm an ass and a pervert with standards dammit.

Also, I'm serious about the 10%. I have a paypal account, and if you don't trust me, have Neo Art or one of the other lawyers draw up a contract and I'll sign it.
ok here ya go.

intellectual jobs take to long to get going for your purposes so you need a physical job.

start a leaf raking service in the expensive neighborhoods in your area. it will be easy to identify those that desperately need your services--theyll still have leaves in the yard. work hard and youll make enough for a grub stake to get you wherever you want to go.

too bad you dont like people, i could have gotten you started in selling navajo jewelry.

I hear begging is good.

I hear begging is good.

For whom?

For whom?

Anti-social people who like to sleep all day. Just sit there and look homeless and you'll make a few bucks a day.

Anti-social people who like to sleep all day. Just sit there and look homeless and you'll make a few bucks a day.

whats good for very social people that sleep all day?

Oh wait.. I have that job...

Aren't there a zillion infomercials that cater to people who stay up late and want to make easy money not interacting with too many people? You just gotta share that 10% up front is all...

Aren't there a zillion infomercials that cater to people who stay up late and want to make easy money not interacting with too many people? You just gotta share that 10% up front is all...

I keep hearing about this Nigerian prince.......

You need to get yourself one of these:

http://www.golf-breaks.eu/images/golf-sale.png

And start getting up before midday...

I hear begging is good.

get a good spot you can average over 200 a day.


nothing like 1k a week tax free.

1. It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

2. I hate getting up anytime before 12pm, and I don't go to bed before 2am. Sometimes 5am if it's a really good Coast to Coast AM.

3. I am not a people person, I can handle one, maybe two, but that's pretty much it.

4. I don't expect to become an overnight millionaire, but it does need to allow me to pay the bills and have some left over for fun.

5. It has to be legal and ethical. I may be an ass and a pervert, but I'm an ass and a pervert with standards dammit.

Also, I'm serious about the 10%. I have a paypal account, and if you don't trust me, have Neo Art or one of the other lawyers draw up a contract and I'll sign it.

what skills do you have?
what are your hobbies?

TG me if you don't wanna post it.

Drive a truck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4dh8uqjN1U&feature=related
:)

Trucks are pretty expensive, yeh? He'd want to be an o/o according to the OP.
He says he wants to keep irregular hours, that he wants to deal with few people, that it must be legal and ethical, that it will let him move, and that he wants enough to pay the bills and have fun.

Maybe he can't get his own rig immediately, but driving would give him a lot of that.

Be a doctor!

That was the worst idea I've ever had!

Ok, so with the crappy economy and the fact that I couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy. I've decided to see if I can't start my own business. Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income. So, right now I am meditating, talking to friends, talking to local businessmen, about starting my own small business. However, there are parameters.

1. It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

2. I hate getting up anytime before 12pm, and I don't go to bed before 2am. Sometimes 5am if it's a really good Coast to Coast AM.

3. I am not a people person, I can handle one, maybe two, but that's pretty much it.

4. I don't expect to become an overnight millionaire, but it does need to allow me to pay the bills and have some left over for fun.

5. It has to be legal and ethical. I may be an ass and a pervert, but I'm an ass and a pervert with standards dammit.

Also, I'm serious about the 10%. I have a paypal account, and if you don't trust me, have Neo Art or one of the other lawyers draw up a contract and I'll sign it.

You sound like the perfect person to become a night time security guard (aka rent a cop). And you won't even have to move from NC to PA to do that. Oh, who in the hell in their right mind would want to move from beautiful NC to PA?

Other than your hours "requirement" you sound like the perfect person for manual labor. You'll make money, you won't have to deal with people much, and it doesn't require much more education. (you should probably be aware of how not to cut off your own head while trimming branches etc.)

I'm not sure how much manual labor can be accomplished at night.

I don't know where you got the idea that you can find a job that matches all those requirements though. Most of us work because we need money, not because we like it.

I've always wanted to start up something like a cyber-cafe, but also with PS3s and 360s. You could make money from weekly tournaments (example: $5 entrance fee, winner gets a free game of their choosing and X-amount hours on PC/game consoles). And you could also rent out furnished rooms to LAN parties, which would cater to WoW enthusiasts, and maybe rent out rooms with 4 360s to birthday parties. I went to something like this, but it only had computers and only hosted one tournament that was canceled... You could also put a bakery shop in the back, too. Oh, and maybe stock some arcade machines, with classics like SNKvsCapcom2, SNKvsMarvel, SoulBlade, Tekken, TimeCrisis, House of the Dead... damn, I miss those days...

Other than your hours "requirement" you sound like the perfect person for manual labor. You'll make money, you won't have to deal with people much, and it doesn't require much more education. (you should probably be aware of how not to cut off your own head while trimming branches etc.)

I'm not sure how much manual labor can be accomplished at night.

I don't know where you got the idea that you can find a job that matches all those requirements though. Most of us work because we need money, not because we like it.

What kind of crazy person likes to work? Things you like are for before work, and after work, and maybe during work while your boss isn't looking.

What kind of crazy person likes to work? Things you like are for before work, and after work, and maybe during work while your boss isn't looking.

I enjoy my job.:p

I've always wanted to start up something like a cyber-cafe, but also with PS3s and 360s. You could make money from weekly tournaments (example: $5 entrance fee, winner gets a free game of their choosing and X-amount hours on PC/game consoles). And you could also rent out furnished rooms to LAN parties, which would cater to WoW enthusiasts, and maybe rent out rooms with 4 360s to birthday parties. I went to something like this, but it only had computers and only hosted one tournament that was canceled... You could also put a bakery shop in the back, too. Oh, and maybe stock some arcade machines, with classics like SNKvsCapcom2, SNKvsMarvel, SoulBlade, Tekken, TimeCrisis, House of the Dead... damn, I miss those days...

had that same idea... ran into several problems in the planning phase.

What kind of crazy person likes to work? Things you like are for before work, and after work, and maybe during work while your boss isn't looking.

I like to work.

Should I gain millions and become the next Bill Gates (money wise that is) I would still be doing my job. Heck, I would take a pay cut to keep my job. :tongue:

Ok, so with the crappy economy and the fact that I couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy. I've decided to see if I can't start my own business. Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income. So, right now I am meditating, talking to friends, talking to local businessmen, about starting my own small business. However, there are parameters.

1. It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

2. I hate getting up anytime before 12pm, and I don't go to bed before 2am. Sometimes 5am if it's a really good Coast to Coast AM.

3. I am not a people person, I can handle one, maybe two, but that's pretty much it.

4. I don't expect to become an overnight millionaire, but it does need to allow me to pay the bills and have some left over for fun.

5. It has to be legal and ethical. I may be an ass and a pervert, but I'm an ass and a pervert with standards dammit.

Also, I'm serious about the 10%. I have a paypal account, and if you don't trust me, have Neo Art or one of the other lawyers draw up a contract and I'll sign it.

The bolded will make it impossible for you to have a job. Sorry, we'd all like to sleep till noon, but thats just not realistic.

I like to work.

:eek:

had that same idea... ran into several problems in the planning phase.

What happened? Not enough demand? It's really the location of where you would build this kind of cybercafe that makes or breaks it. I would build this near a Korean community, or in near a corner store in a suburban neighborhood.
Of course, it helps to take polls of the residents in the area before building the place. Oh, and maybe look at the demographics, places with relatively new families. After all, we're targeting minors bet. the ages of 10-17.

The bolded will make it impossible for you to have a job. Sorry, we'd all like to sleep till noon, but thats just not realistic.
Swing shifts usually start at 2:00 p.m. so it's not impossible to find a job that allows one to sleep in till noon.

:eek: I get dangerious when bored. ;)

What happened? Not enough demand? It's really the location of where you would build this kind of cybercafe that makes or breaks it. I would build this near a Korean community, or in near a corner store in a suburban neighborhood.
Of course, it helps to take polls of the residents in the area before building the place. Oh, and maybe look at the demographics, places with relatively new families. After all, we're targeting minors bet. the ages of 10-17.it came down to one question.

"Why would someone pay a monthly fee to play on a computer that will have limited storage space when they could buy their own computer and play on-line at the comfort of their own home?"

add to that the sheer number of games out there would eat up resources just on the base programs alone. add to that the updates... *shudders at thought of doing WoW updates for all the PC's, not to mention Virus updates and such.*

you target the minors and you narrow your window and add expenses. Not too many minors have the resources to be long time members.

However, combining your communial Cyber room with another idea might work. say a PC repair shop, Game Store (where customers can demo games and even put up their own reviews), ISP, or something. why do you think cyber cafe's are also Cafe's. where people can eat, drink ans socialize as well as surf.

it came down to one question.

"Why would someone pay a monthly fee to play on a computer that will have limited storage space when they could buy their own computer and play on-line at the comfort of their own home?"

add to that the sheer number of games out there would eat up resources just on the base programs alone. add to that the updates... *shudders at thought of doing WoW updates for all the PC's, not to mention Virus updates and such.*

you target the minors and you narrow your window and add expenses. Not too many minors have the resources to be long time members.

However, combining your communial Cyber room with another idea might work. say a PC repair shop, Game Store (where customers can demo games and even put up their own reviews), ISP, or something. why do you think cyber cafe's are also Cafe's. where people can eat, drink ans socialize as well as surf.

Well, that's why minors are an appropriate target group. They don't exactly have the means to buy their own PCs, and they'll usually come in groups to play together. Also, we don't have to buy every single game out there, just the most popular games (public polls could be used to determine what's popular). Then there's the tournaments, which are all about competition. Who doesn't want to be publicly acknowlegded as "the best"? And who wouldn't want to challenge the that person? Tournaments are a way to bring in more customers by selling the idea of your cyber cafe as the "hotspot" for competitive gaming.
There's something most cyber-cafes in the N.America don't have, and that's social interaction, which is something that PCs at home can't provide. Customers who can get to know each other, and share interests in the same entertainment as well as a place that provides that entertainment, are likely to become frequent customers. Thus, the appeal of cyber-cafes to home PCs is similar to buying music on Itunes and then going to a concert.
I do agree with your idea about combining cyber-cafes with a primary/secondary business. That's been a noticeable trend in a lot of the cafes I have been to. It's just another incentive for customers to come back or bring in new ones.

Drive a truck.

Actually, that wouldn't be bad...I think it fits all of Wil's criteria...

Ooh. Would it mean communicating with Sophie Marceau?

:)

Sure. You'd get to tell her where to meet me for dates.

Erm?

If you want to move, setting up a small business is the last thing you want to do, not to mention the problems with getting credit nowadays. Small businesses operate on having decent, reliable clients. Not being a people person, then not getting up early enough for clients to see you in the morning, plus wanting to move to a new area where people will never have heard of your business - yer screwed.

Edit: why the hell would you want to move from NC to PA?

And you won't even have to move from NC to PA to do that. Oh, who in the hell in their right mind would want to move from beautiful NC to PA?

Why does everyone ask me that? As for my reasons, well I think it's time for a change of scenery, and I want to re-establish myself someplace new, you know restart my life. As to why I pick PA, well I have two friends up there, and I want to be closer to them.

OI couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy.That is why I am glad my mommy and daddy have very good connections.

The bolded will make it impossible for you to have a job. Sorry, we'd all like to sleep till noon, but thats just not realistic.
You've never heard of graveyard shifts?

That is why I am glad my mommy and daddy have very good connections.

Either politicians or mob bosses.

The bolded will make it impossible for you to have a job. Sorry, we'd all like to sleep till noon, but thats just not realistic.

Really? My job involves me working from 4pm to 8pm...well, except Saturdays

Really? My job involves me working from 4pm to 8pm...well, except Saturdays

What is your job?

If you have a Pay Pal account, maybe you could be an E-Bay trader? Do you have storage capacity and a mercantile instinct?

Ok, so with the crappy economy and the fact that I couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy. I've decided to see if I can't start my own business. Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income. So, right now I am meditating, talking to friends, talking to local businessmen, about starting my own small business.

...It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

You're talking about starting a business and then trying to move...I think moving comes first, and then a few years after that you might think about a business.

But that's just me.

Edit: why the hell would you want to move from NC to PA?

That's what I said.

A website for cell phones that lets users rate and comment on specific business, like "This Jack in the Box is stingy with the dipping sauce, this Cheveron won't give directions without having to buy a map (the instance that brought this on). Users can either log on and find a place that has good comments to do what they need on the road or check to avoid places that has stingy or just ass policies or employees. Or, if they're pissed off, tell someone about it. I think a lot of places don't give a shit about 'return business' because most of their business is transient. They can be dicks because by the time you find out you've already spent your money and you're gone. Franchises are supposed to curb this by offering a same 'standard' everywhere, but like a lot of things, that's a total sham. This is a way to punish the piss-poor and reward the cool.

Good idea!

I've always wanted to start up something like a cyber-cafe, but also with PS3s and 360s. You could make money from weekly tournaments (example: $5 entrance fee, winner gets a free game of their choosing and X-amount hours on PC/game consoles). And you could also rent out furnished rooms to LAN parties, which would cater to WoW enthusiasts, and maybe rent out rooms with 4 360s to birthday parties. I went to something like this, but it only had computers and only hosted one tournament that was canceled... You could also put a bakery shop in the back, too. Oh, and maybe stock some arcade machines, with classics like SNKvsCapcom2, SNKvsMarvel, SoulBlade, Tekken, TimeCrisis, House of the Dead... damn, I miss those days...

Another really good idea.

We used to have something like that around here. No consoles, but lots of PCs with popular games, and tournaments and so forth. Sadly, they went out of business due to local legal issues...not sure what precisely.

I'm sure it's an idea that could be made to work, if you're willing to put in the effort.

Ok, so with the crappy economy and the fact that I couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy. I've decided to see if I can't start my own business. Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income. So, right now I am meditating, talking to friends, talking to local businessmen, about starting my own small business. However, there are parameters.

1. It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

2. I hate getting up anytime before 12pm, and I don't go to bed before 2am. Sometimes 5am if it's a really good Coast to Coast AM.

3. I am not a people person, I can handle one, maybe two, but that's pretty much it.

4. I don't expect to become an overnight millionaire, but it does need to allow me to pay the bills and have some left over for fun.

5. It has to be legal and ethical. I may be an ass and a pervert, but I'm an ass and a pervert with standards dammit.

Also, I'm serious about the 10%. I have a paypal account, and if you don't trust me, have Neo Art or one of the other lawyers draw up a contract and I'll sign it.

Start a pornography company.

Is a pornstar legal?

Is a pornstar legal?

As long as they're over 18, and the porn isn't forced or involving children/animals, then yes.

What is your job?

telemarketer.

telemarketer.

i hope you burn in hell

telemarketer.

i hope you burn in hell

Telemarketers from Hell........*shudders*...

Telemarketers from Hell........*shudders*...

Sounds like the next Halloween thriller.

i hope you burn in hell

*Makes sure to torment GaD as much as possible with calls*

Ok, so with the crappy economy and the fact that I couldn't get a job unless I had connections even with a good economy. I've decided to see if I can't start my own business. Mainly because if people won't hire you, then the next logical step is to make your own path to getting income. So, right now I am meditating, talking to friends, talking to local businessmen, about starting my own small business. However, there are parameters.

1. It has to allow me to move from NC to PA as soon as I get the money to do so.

2. I hate getting up anytime before 12pm, and I don't go to bed before 2am. Sometimes 5am if it's a really good Coast to Coast AM.

3. I am not a people person, I can handle one, maybe two, but that's pretty much it.

4. I don't expect to become an overnight millionaire, but it does need to allow me to pay the bills and have some left over for fun.

5. It has to be legal and ethical. I may be an ass and a pervert, but I'm an ass and a pervert with standards dammit.

Also, I'm serious about the 10%. I have a paypal account, and if you don't trust me, have Neo Art or one of the other lawyers draw up a contract and I'll sign it.

Okay:
1. You need a product or service to offer to people/businesses. You don't like dealing with people, so you want to primarily target businesses. Of course, this means you will have to offer an equal or better service than your competitor for less. So, you need to decide what product or service you can supply. What are your hobbies/interests? Do you have any qualifications or other skills? You need to do something for which there is a market. So, if you live in the middle of the desert, a fishing charter business will not work.

2. Once you have done that, your next step is to draw up a business plan. Include in this an estimate of how much it will cost to give your service. Remember any business idea will require an initial outlay. This may vary anywhere from $200 for some supplies to thousands of dollars for equipment, rent in a shop and accounting costs. Remember as a business you will be accountable if your good or service does not meet requirements or breaks too soon. Also, insurance.

3. Once you have your business plan sorted out you need clients. Marketing and advertising is tougher than people expect. most corporate clients will already have someone doing their [service] for them. So it is probably better to start by focusing in individual or small business clients to start with. But before you even think about marketing, you should get a plan of what you can actually sell to people.

So, tell us about yourself, what you enjoy doing etc...

The economy does suck. That's why I'm going back to school( hopefully). Good luck on that business though.

i hope you burn in hell
Jeez. Whatever happened to "No thanks," and hanging up? There's no need to be hostile.

Jeez. Whatever happened to "No thanks," and hanging up? There's no need to be hostile.

I don't know, Kat. I usually make fun of them in a variety of ways (asking what they are wearing is a personal favorite, especially if they are male like me). However, recently I was waiting for a call, and got woken up by a telemarketer call. My response, translated into English was:

"So, this is a telemarketing call? Miss, let me inform you. I was sleeping. I only answered this call because I thought it was a call I was waiting for. Now I will tell you what you will do. You will hang up right now, before I lose control and tell you EXACTLY what I think of you."

Formally, but with a cold fury.

Telemarketers breach the rules of discourse the moment they make a call. Once the discourse rules are breached, everything is fair game.

what skills do you have?
what are your hobbies?

TG me if you don't wanna post it.

My Resume can be found at this link.

Linky (http://wtssw.blogspot.com/2008/12/resume.html)


So, tell us about yourself, what you enjoy doing etc...

I like to write short stories, RP stories for The Matrix Online game. Engage in political, religious and various other discussions online. I like to read, travel. I love to talk about aviation and anything about aviation.

I like to do research, and study on the paranormal and history. I can deal with people online, which is why I think an online business would be better suited for me.

That's basically it.

God damnit! The Philippines have Octopus flavoured ice cream too!

Well, there you go, make one for the western countries!
Well, we can just export them toothpastes to your countries. :D

Be a doctor!

That was the worst idea I've ever had!
Erm, not really, unless you're in stressful specialties like surgery or obstetrics and gyncology. There are some specialties, such as dermatology and ophthalmology, where real emergencies are few (AFAIK, there are only three real emergencies in ophtha: CRAO, chemical burn, and perforated globe). You can also set your time, especially if you're in private practice. And if you are anti-social and hate people interactions, radiology, and especially pathology, is very ideal.

By the way Wilgrove, ever thought of being a medical transcriptionist? Well, it's not really a business, but then, I see you took some medical subjects and did lots of typing. :wink:

As for business, I can't think of any... An all-night hotdog stand? Operate your own vending machines?