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Osama Bin Lego

Hairless Kitten
04-12-2008, 16:40
A RANGE of Lego-style fighting figures — including an al-Qaeda terrorist — has been slammed by religious leaders.

The masked follower of 9/11 mastermind Osama Bin Laden comes with a rocket launcher, assault rifle and grenades.


Mohammed Shaffiq, of Muslim organisation The Ramadhan Foundation, branded the toy “absolutely disgusting”.

He said: “It is glorifying terrorism — the makers should be ashamed.

The Sun: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2002041.ece



Why are they mad? When I was a child, I had cowboys and indians, WWII soldiers (Germans and Americans) and I even had knights.

Those terrorist figures are just some modern times replacement for my old cowboy and indian figures.

Those 'religious' leaders have no sense of humor. Don't they have to deal with serious stuff? No? In that case, all world problems are solved.
Tagmatium
04-12-2008, 16:42
It's a bit... weird.

I like the little Mauser, though.
Londim
04-12-2008, 16:43
*places order*
Cosmopoles
04-12-2008, 16:51
Its a pretty morbid toy for a child, but I have a sneaking suspicion that these are supposed to be ironic and are intended for adults.
Ferrous Oxide
04-12-2008, 16:54
They also include a Nazi major, bearing the chilling SS insignia, and a stormtrooper brandishing two grenade launchers.

Seriously? How chilling could it be, it's LEGO!
Hairless Kitten
04-12-2008, 16:54
Its a pretty morbid toy for a child, but I have a sneaking suspicion that these are supposed to be ironic and are intended for adults.


Well I killed zillion indian figures and I became a lovely person.

Why are these terrorist figures morbid and why are the indian/cowboy figures not that morbid?

I believe 'we' killed much more indians in real life than the terrorists killed people.

Do you hear the indians complain about the indian figures?
Tagmatium
04-12-2008, 16:56
Seriously? How chilling could it be, it's LEGO!
I'd have said disconcerting, myself.

I imagine it's weird to see what is essentially a kid's toy wearing Nazi insignia.
German Nightmare
04-12-2008, 16:57
I'm amazed at what the LEGO customizers have come up with so far.

And while it may be considered bad taste, not only is there a market for it - it's only commenting and copying what's happening in the real world.

Don't like it? Don't buy it.
Non Aligned States
04-12-2008, 16:58
I wonder what happens if you took the SS Lego piece, showed it to someone who'd rant about the evil SS logo, and then tell them that it's not SS, but actually a German Buddhist society aid worker in a uniform. :p

As for glorifying terrorism, I'm disappointed in the Osama Lego if all it has is just a few accessories. I expected it to go "Kill the infidels!" and "May the great syaitan suffer the fires of hell!" when you look at it sideways. :p
Cosmopoles
04-12-2008, 17:01
Well I killed zillion indian figures and I became a lovely person.

Why are these terrorist figures morbid and why are the indian/cowboy figures not that morbid?

I believe 'we' killed much more indians in real life than the terrorists killed people.

Do you hear the indians complain about the indian figures?

No, but the cowboy and Indian figures were somewhat abstracted from reality. If the cowboy came with a scalping knife and human body part accessories or if the Indian came with enslaved children it would be a bit different. It was more Shanghai Noon than Blood Meridian.
Non Aligned States
04-12-2008, 17:03
No, but the cowboy and Indian figures were somewhat abstracted from reality. If the cowboy came with a scalping knife and human body part accessories or if the Indian came with enslaved children it would be a bit different. It was more Shanghai Noon than Blood Meridian.

I think knives are fairly standard in most non-technical LEGO sets. And body parts are pretty much standard with every LEGO man.
Hairless Kitten
04-12-2008, 17:05
No, but the cowboy and Indian figures were somewhat abstracted from reality. If the cowboy came with a scalping knife and human body part accessories or if the Indian came with enslaved children it would be a bit different. It was more Shanghai Noon than Blood Meridian.

My indians had knives, axes, rifles and stuff. My cowboys had all kind of guns and rifles.

It's Lego, so if you want play scenarios with enslaved children then it really is possible.
UNIverseVERSE
04-12-2008, 17:07
It took someone that long to notice brickarms? Seriously?

linky (http://www.brickarms.com/)

What they do is fill the niche Lego has left open, producing reasonably accurate impressions of real world weapons for people who are obsessive about making military forces. The minifigs are just a side niche, and are basically a way of showing off a collection of their weapons.

Finally, article is misleading --- the figure they're complaining about is sold as a 'bandit', and the SS guy with two rocketlaunchers is, in fact, not SS. But apart from these minor complaints with the quality of the Sun's journalism, it's obviously spot on. How atrocious that people make interesting accessories for small toys, especially when one can buy various types of model gun in nearly every town in the UK.
Cosmopoles
04-12-2008, 17:07
My indians had knives, axes, rifles and stuff. My cowboys had all kind of guns and rifles.

It's Lego, so if you want play scenarios with enslaved children then it really is possible.

Theoretically you could act out any scenario with Lego. The point is that the people who make it have yet to release an Indian Mutilation or White Settler Enslavement package.
German Nightmare
04-12-2008, 17:09
No, but the cowboy and Indian figures were somewhat abstracted from reality. If the cowboy came with a scalping knife and human body part accessories or if the Indian came with enslaved children it would be a bit different. It was more Shanghai Noon than Blood Meridian.
When I played with LEGO they didn't even have Cowboys and Indians. Their playmobil equivalents however did come with knives and pistols and rifles. And bows. Those older bow models even had a rubber band with which you could actually show small arrows. Ah, good times.

Just because it's been ago a longer period of time doesn't mean that it's any different.

Besides, I don't think those "toys" are intended for children. Neither are they developed, sold, or supported by LEGO.
KAOZS
04-12-2008, 17:12
I love it. And I don't agree that this is glorigying terrorism. I'm thinkiing the terrorist Lego guy takes more abuse than any other block in any kid's set. They should come in a 6 pack though so the kids could maybe blow one up with a fire cracker. Maybe another they could crush with a brick. And maybe light another couple on fire and melt them together in a play incinerator. And they'd still have a couple left for the good lego guys to hunt down and shoot in the streets like the BOTTOM FEEDING COWARDS THEY ARE!!!
:$

Er, um, at least that's what I would have done with them. And it would have been awesome. :D
Hobabwe
04-12-2008, 17:15
Theoretically you could act out any scenario with Lego. The point is that the people who make it have yet to release an Indian Mutilation or White Settler Enslavement package.

Neither have they released a "concentration camp" and "rape german women" kit....

Come on, they release ww2 lego figs.


talk about a storm in a teacup, trust the bloody sun to conjure that up.
Wilgrove
04-12-2008, 17:15
Am I the only adult who still has an urge to play with legos?
Blouman Empire
04-12-2008, 17:15
It took someone that long to notice brickarms? Seriously?

linky (http://www.brickarms.com/)

What they do is fill the niche Lego has left open, producing reasonably accurate impressions of real world weapons for people who are obsessive about making military forces. The minifigs are just a side niche, and are basically a way of showing off a collection of their weapons.

Finally, article is misleading --- the figure they're complaining about is sold as a 'bandit', and the SS guy with two rocketlaunchers is, in fact, not SS. But apart from these minor complaints with the quality of the Sun's journalism, it's obviously spot on. How atrocious that people make interesting accessories for small toys, especially when one can buy various types of model gun in nearly every town in the UK.

Interesting thing and quite amusing, especially the pic they have on the front page of a Santa Claus with a sleigh full of guns. And while the guy with the two rocket lauchers is not SS they do sell a SS major.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
04-12-2008, 17:15
Hehehehe! Hilarious, although some people may find it in poor taste to have Osama bin Laden made into a Lego figurine. But it's lite. Don't see what the fuss is about either.
Blouman Empire
04-12-2008, 17:16
Am I the only adult who still has an urge to play with legos?

No, my favourite theme was the City (the one back in my day not the new one) and the Pirates theme, I always wanted one of the massive Pirate ships but never got it.
Wilgrove
04-12-2008, 17:18
No, my favourite theme was the City (the one back in my day not the new one) and the Pirates theme, I always wanted one of the massive Pirate ships but never got it.

I wouldn't mind making several stop-motion (or claymation) movies with legos. It'd be about Billy and his wacky adventures through the world of legos. :p
Rathanan
04-12-2008, 17:19
Well, at least we know what Bush and Cheney will be doing in their spare time...

"Ka-pow! Take that Bin Laden! Ka-pow, ka-pow, ka-pow!"

"Oh noes! You got me! I shouldn't have messed with America!"
Dumb Ideologies
04-12-2008, 17:20
Some people like being offended and have no sense of perspective. The sort of people who throw their toys out of the pram (pun intended, though for a kid still in a pram, lego might not be safe) on this sort of issue really need to lake a hard look at themselves and reassess their priorities.
Blouman Empire
04-12-2008, 17:22
I wouldn't mind making several stop-motion (or claymation) movies with legos. It'd be about Billy and his wacky adventures through the world of legos. :p

Sounds like fun, hey why don't you bring your legos over and we can play together :tongue:
Wilgrove
04-12-2008, 17:24
Sounds like fun, hey why don't you bring your legos over and we can play together :tongue:

Ok! :p

On topic though, jeez....people will complain about anything won't they?
German Nightmare
04-12-2008, 17:27
Am I the only adult who still has an urge to play with legos?
I still wish I would've gotten that classic yellow knight's castle back in the days.

No, LEGO's wonderful stuff. I, however, do prefer playmobil. Heck, I mean, I got two playmobil advent calenders just for the fun of it this year - one with knights, the other with pirates. Yarr! (But all they do is actually catch dust on the shelf - I don't sit down and play with them, mind you)
No, my favourite theme was the City (the one back in my day not the new one) and the Pirates theme, I always wanted one of the massive Pirate ships but never got it.
City was great. Yet, LEGO lost some appeal to me when they started selling kits with less but bigger parts, so instead of really building a tower you simply slammed 4-5 parts together.

As for the pirates, when did they come up with pirates?!? Which year was that?
UNIverseVERSE
04-12-2008, 17:27
Am I the only adult who still has an urge to play with legos?


No.

Interesting thing and quite amusing, especially the pic they have on the front page of a Santa Claus with a sleigh full of guns. And while the guy with the two rocket lauchers is not SS they do sell a SS major.

Aye, I know. But still, hurricane in a teacup, etc.

If you want to complain about lego sets, pick on these guys (http://www.brickgun.com/).

As a kid playing with legos, we always managed to build armies or combat troops anyway, even with the rather restricted bits that Lego provide. Rocket launchers, assault rifles, submachineguns, etc. Kids will be kids, and complaining about some third party making lego accessories that are rough approximations of real world weapons won't get you anywhere.
Rathanan
04-12-2008, 17:29
Ok! :p

On topic though, jeez....people will complain about anything won't they?

The day people suck it up and deal with it is the day that Kermit the Frog becomes Supreme Ruler of the World.
UNIverseVERSE
04-12-2008, 17:31
I still wish I would've gotten that classic yellow knight's castle back in the days.

No, LEGO's wonderful stuff. I, however, do prefer playmobil. Heck, I mean, I got two playmobil advent calenders just for the fun of it this year - one with knights, the other with pirates. Yarr! (But all they do is actually catch dust on the shelf - I don't sit down and play with them, mind you)

City was great. Yet, LEGO lost some appeal to me when they started selling kits with less but bigger parts, so instead of really building a tower you simply slammed 4-5 parts together.

As for the pirates, when did they come up with pirates?!? Which year was that?

I know they did pirates in the mid nineties, because I got my dad a ship for his birthday. Still have all the pieces around somewhere, along with the other couple thousand.

My motto has always been that I can build anything with a few hundred 1x4s, some 6x16s and 2x8s, and extras as and where needed. I do mean anything --- cars, aircraft, model firearms, castles*, ships, swords, etc. Great stuff.

*Although their rampart pieces and rock faces make castles a damn sight quicker to knock together, I must admit.
Tarantum
04-12-2008, 17:33
I wouldn't mind making several stop-motion (or claymation) movies with legos. It'd be about Billy and his wacky adventures through the world of legos. :p


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxUZUnRwH7s :wink:
Intestinal fluids
04-12-2008, 17:34
I want to get a bunch of them and make a chess set.
Blouman Empire
04-12-2008, 17:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxUZUnRwH7s :wink:

I prefer this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIXByCAIzos
Intestinal fluids
04-12-2008, 17:38
Thats all pretty mild compared to the Lego Nazi death camps.

http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz4.jpg
http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz5.jpg
http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz3.jpg
http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz2.jpg
Hairless Kitten
04-12-2008, 17:44
Or this one:

http://www.thebricktestament.com/
Wilgrove
04-12-2008, 17:47
Thats all pretty mild compared to the Lego Nazi death camps.

http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz4.jpg
http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz5.jpg
http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz3.jpg
http://users.erols.com/kennrice/lego-kz2.jpg

Is it wrong that I actually want this?
Western Mercenary Unio
04-12-2008, 17:54
Is it wrong that I actually want this?

Yes.
UNIverseVERSE
04-12-2008, 17:54
Is it wrong that I actually want this?

No. Those buildings would do wonderful generic industrial, and skeletons are hard to come by normally.
German Nightmare
04-12-2008, 17:54
I know they did pirates in the mid nineties, because I got my dad a ship for his birthday. Still have all the pieces around somewhere, along with the other couple thousand.Ah, that's after my time...
My motto has always been that I can build anything with a few hundred 1x4s, some 6x16s and 2x8s, and extras as and where needed. I do mean anything --- cars, aircraft, model firearms, castles*, ships, swords, etc. Great stuff.
The last big project I did some 18+ years ago was a 60cm Space Shuttle. If I'm not mistaken it still sits on my closet at home.
*Although their rampart pieces and rock faces make castles a damn sight quicker to knock together, I must admit.
Part of what made LEGO great is that building was part of the playing experience and it was supposed to take some time and effort. At least, that's how I see it. When they started using those parts, I started losing interest.

I was used to building from scratch like this one http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/GelbeLegoRitterburg.jpg although I never got it. :( They are traded at € 150-175 nowadays.
Thats all pretty mild compared to the Lego Nazi death camps.
:eek:
That's just wrong!
German Nightmare
04-12-2008, 17:56
Is it wrong that I actually want this?
Ja.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
04-12-2008, 17:58
Is it wrong that I actually want this?

It is, but it's hilarious nevertheless.:D
Hairless Kitten
04-12-2008, 18:00
Is it wrong that I actually want this?

If you invite some jewish friends then it's ok.
Nova Magna Germania
04-12-2008, 18:03
The Sun: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2002041.ece



Why are they mad? When I was a child, I had cowboys and indians, WWII soldiers (Germans and Americans) and I even had knights.

Those terrorist figures are just some modern times replacement for my old cowboy and indian figures.

Those 'religious' leaders have no sense of humor. Don't they have to deal with serious stuff? No? In that case, all world problems are solved.

AHAHAHAHAHAHHA. I thought I'd never say this. But Osama looks cute...
UNIverseVERSE
04-12-2008, 18:17
Ah, that's after my time...

The last big project I did some 18+ years ago was a 60cm Space Shuttle. If I'm not mistaken it still sits on my closet at home.

Part of what made LEGO great is that building was part of the playing experience and it was supposed to take some time and effort. At least, that's how I see it. When they started using those parts, I started losing interest.

I was used to building from scratch like this one http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/GelbeLegoRitterburg.jpg although I never got it. :( They are traded at € 150-175 nowadays.

:eek:
That's just wrong!

I was referring to these pieces:

http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=6066
http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=6083
http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=6082

Which provide a nice way of roughing out castle structure, but are in no way something you can build a whole castle with. Start with some of these, well placed, and then use normal bricks to build them together into a proper construction. Still, they have their strong points for quick prototyping and providing a skeleton for building on.

And yes, I built (and build) from scratch with nearly everything. Once you can construct it in less than 10 pieces, I'm either building something tiny (small scale starfighter) or not interested, as those 10 pieces can't be repurposed enough.
Neo Bretonnia
04-12-2008, 19:43
I want the Colonial Marine for Christmas...

So why is the Ramadhan Foundation mad? Muslims =/= terrorists...

right?
Skallvia
04-12-2008, 19:50
I dont see the problem...

I had some Germans, Russians, British...The whole bit when i was a kid...

Whats wrong with some Modern Enemies? Hell, Comic Books killed Hitler on a Daily Basis...
Hairless Kitten
04-12-2008, 19:55
I'm remembering a standup comedian who was making silly jokes about the jews.
The muslims in the room liked the jokes and had a hard laugh.

Then the comedian started to make similar jokes about muslims.
It ended in a fierce fight.
Skallvia
04-12-2008, 19:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxUZUnRwH7s :wink:

OMG, thats Awesome, lmao...Vader was fricken Classic...

And the random smile in the middle!? FTW, lmao...
Trostia
04-12-2008, 20:14
They should have suicide bomber terrorists who actually self-destruct. Then we could get lego US embassies and lego Israeli marketplaces...
Wilgrove
04-12-2008, 21:17
They should have suicide bomber terrorists who actually self-destruct. Then we could get lego US embassies and lego Israeli marketplaces...

What about lego Baghdad?
Trostia
04-12-2008, 21:25
What about lego Baghdad?

We're waiting for Lego Halliburton to rebuild it first.
Wilgrove
04-12-2008, 21:29
We're waiting for Lego Halliburton to rebuild it first.

lol! /thread
Lord Tothe
04-12-2008, 21:32
Where can I buy this? MUST HAVE!!!
Aelosia
04-12-2008, 21:37
Wait, I grew up with Pirate Legos.

You people hail from nothern countries, but here in the Caribbean, for us the pirates were just mass murderers, mass rapists, and bandits. And yet, when we were children, we were issued with Lego pirates, a entire collection of them.

I can't see nothing wrong with making legos of terrorists. After all, terrorists are just pirates with a twist.
UNIverseVERSE
04-12-2008, 21:37
Where can I buy this? MUST HAVE!!!

The 'terrorist'?

here (http://www.brickarms.com/toys/minifigs/bandit_white.aspx)
Hayteria
04-12-2008, 21:56
Well I killed zillion indian figures and I became a lovely person.

Why are these terrorist figures morbid and why are the indian/cowboy figures not that morbid?

I believe 'we' killed much more indians in real life than the terrorists killed people.

Do you hear the indians complain about the indian figures?
Heh, this reminds me of what I heard before about the Fire Temple in Zelda OoT; supposedly some Muslims complained about the use of Islamic chanting in the BGM. The same level had what seemed to be totem poles in it and you didn't hear aboriginal groups complain about that. With things like that, I can't help but get the impression that aboriginals won't complain as much about the portrayal of them in entertainment as other groups that seem to be more shielded by political correctness are. Maybe it's an illogical generalization on my part, but I'm not insisting it's the case, just throwing that out there.

As for the point about indians and cowboys, I can't help but get the impression that it's based on underlying social double standards with respect to reality itself rather than just to the toys; it's murder when one group does it, but not when another group does it. I've noticed this with how history books list justifications for the allied bombing of civilians in WW2, yet whenever someone tries to justify the targeting of the world trade center, it's considered shocking. Or how with society seems to react more strongly to war simulators than to crime simulators, regardless of the magnitude of violence in each; is it really about society not wanting to promote violence, or about only wanting to promote THEIR violence?
German Nightmare
04-12-2008, 22:08
I was referring to these pieces:

http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=6066
http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=6083
http://guide.lugnet.com/partsref/search.cgi?q=6082

Which provide a nice way of roughing out castle structure, but are in no way something you can build a whole castle with. Start with some of these, well placed, and then use normal bricks to build them together into a proper construction. Still, they have their strong points for quick prototyping and providing a skeleton for building on.
Oh, yes, those are pieces I can agree with. What I was referring to were those bases that already included half a mountain on which to place things like these:

http://modding.fantasia-spielzeug.de//shop/ebay/1/2087.jpg

That's just - I don't know - I always considered it "cheating".
And yes, I built (and build) from scratch with nearly everything. Once you can construct it in less than 10 pieces, I'm either building something tiny (small scale starfighter) or not interested, as those 10 pieces can't be repurposed enough.
I'm always amazed at how many different bricks they've come up with over the years. And colors. Not to forget colors!
Wait, I grew up with Pirate Legos.
When I grew up, LEGO didn't have pirates. They barely had boats!
I can't see nothing wrong with making legos of terrorists. After all, terrorists are just pirates with a twist.
A pretty sick twist.
Aelosia
04-12-2008, 22:16
A pretty sick twist.

Oh well, Pirates weren't worse than terrorists. Islamic terrorists do what they do based on religious ideas. Pirates made the same things with the tools in their hands for personal gain and greed. Not really better, perhaps even worse. Just a twist, not so...Sick. Pirates were pretty much sick to start with.
UNIverseVERSE
04-12-2008, 22:43
Oh, yes, those are pieces I can agree with. What I was referring to were those bases that already included half a mountain on which to place things like these:

http://modding.fantasia-spielzeug.de//shop/ebay/1/2087.jpg

That's just - I don't know - I always considered it "cheating".

Here we are basically in agreement. Although I don't mind that wall piece too much, or some of the corresponding part-tower bits they do. While a lot less flexible, they can be used nicely and repurposed well.

My real dislike is for things like the pterodactyl, or most of the dinosaur parts they did. No options for anything to do with most of those but build dinosaurs.

How nerdy are we --- debating which lego pieces are considered 'cheating' or 'not cheating'?


I'm always amazed at how many different bricks they've come up with over the years. And colors. Not to forget colors!

I know. Still, many of the older ones have far more options and ways to use them than some of the oh-so-specialised new ones. Much better to just fiddle with (guess what I had to put down to type this post).


When I grew up, LEGO didn't have pirates. They barely had boats!

A pretty sick twist.

Hmm. Two things really --- one, the minifig that's the subject of this thread is basically a bandit or pirate type. Secondly, did you even have the little red boats when you were growing up? About 4x7 studs internally, rims just higher than a full brick. Great little components, and plenty of options for building internals into them, or constructing catamarans and stuff.
Intestinal fluids
04-12-2008, 22:50
Can we make a pirate lego boat that can outrun a Lego cruise liner?
Sumamba Buwhan
04-12-2008, 23:13
OMG they are awesome! Want!
German Nightmare
05-12-2008, 01:44
Here we are basically in agreement. Although I don't mind that wall piece too much, or some of the corresponding part-tower bits they do. While a lot less flexible, they can be used nicely and repurposed well.
Great.
My real dislike is for things like the pterodactyl, or most of the dinosaur parts they did. No options for anything to do with most of those but build dinosaurs.
Yeah, those were a great disappointment and I never got'em.
How nerdy are we --- debating which lego pieces are considered 'cheating' or 'not cheating'?
As nerdy as we wanna be!
I know. Still, many of the older ones have far more options and ways to use them than some of the oh-so-specialised new ones. Much better to just fiddle with (guess what I had to put down to type this post).
Mmh... LEGO?
Hmm. Two things really --- one, the minifig that's the subject of this thread is basically a bandit or pirate type. Secondly, did you even have the little red boats when you were growing up? About 4x7 studs internally, rims just higher than a full brick. Great little components, and plenty of options for building internals into them, or constructing catamarans and stuff.
No, I don't think I had those. I do, however, have
Nr. 146 (The old, classic blue-railed railroad)
Nr. 149
Nr. 370 (Police station. I especially liked the car)
Nr. 314 (Police boat - this is the kind of ship I was referring to)
Nr. 315 (Same here. You can see the compartments better in the container ship)
Nr. 387 (This one was great. Especially the tracks on the caterpillar were awesome! And they used the really old cog-wheels. Red = small, Blue = medium, Yellow = big. The precursor to LEGO tech)
Nr. 616 (And those. Pretty much the same as the really old cars built with a a 4X4 block with wheels)

http://home.pages.at/ottodix/lego1976.htm

As you can tell, this stuff is ancient. (I was born in '76...)

P.S.: I just realized that I own even more of the really old stuff... :eek:

http://home.pages.at/ottodix/lego1972.htm
Nr. 355

http://home.pages.at/ottodix/lego1973.htm
Nr. 310, Nr. 358, Nr. 611, Nr. 653, Nr. 655

http://home.pages.at/ottodix/lego1974.htm
Nr. 384, Nr. 361, Nr. 656

http://home.pages.at/ottodix/lego1975.htm
Nr. 723
Nr. 148 (Check out the people - they didn't even have arms or a face back then!!!)
Nr. 362, Nr. 363, Nr. 615, Nr. 660, Nr. 693

http://home.pages.at/ottodix/lego1977.htm
Nr. 373, Nr. 727

Jeez. I haven't thought of those toys for ages. AGES! I feel young again and really old at the same time. Weird. Thanks for reminding me of this. :tongue:
Zombie PotatoHeads
05-12-2008, 02:25
what surprised me most about the Sun article was that further down the page there was a link to the Sun's forums.
I had no idea Sun readers were able of writing in anything other than crayon, let alone capable of stringing coherrent sentences together. The screens on their PCs (how they must hate calling their computers that!) must be drenched in flecks of spittle as they work themselves up into yet another frenzy reading yet another story about a shoplifting unmarried muslim gypsy mum of five receiving 400 quid a week in benefits.
Johnny B Goode
05-12-2008, 02:46
I'm amazed at what the LEGO customizers have come up with so far.

And while it may be considered bad taste, not only is there a market for it - it's only commenting and copying what's happening in the real world.

Don't like it? Don't buy it.

Well said, man.
Soleichunn
05-12-2008, 03:44
As a kid playing with legos, we always managed to build armies or combat troops anyway, even with the rather restricted bits that Lego provide. Rocket launchers, assault rifles, submachineguns, etc. Kids will be kids, and complaining about some third party making lego accessories that are rough approximations of real world weapons won't get you anywhere.

All my lego (barring 2 people who weren't used that much) comprised of 2x1, 2x2 and 2x4 blocks. You don't need rocket launchers when you can use your imagination to have energy bolts being emitted from a robot's eyes!
German Nightmare
05-12-2008, 06:28
Well said, man.
Johnny! Haven't seen you around in a while. You doing okay, dude?
Johnny B Goode
06-12-2008, 02:40
Johnny! Haven't seen you around in a while. You doing okay, dude?

Yeah, I dropped out once I started being unable to post. Then I got back in once I figured out why. (Took me a couple months cause I couldn't be arsed to work on it and there was real life of course)
German Nightmare
06-12-2008, 04:41
Yeah, I dropped out once I started being unable to post. Then I got back in once I figured out why. (Took me a couple months cause I couldn't be arsed to work on it and there was real life of course)
Ooh boy, that sounds like trouble. :( Glad you made it back.

Real life. I've had enough of that in the last couple of months myself. Doing okay now. :tongue:


As for the LEGO - and I'm asking that to anyone - From which years is most of your stuff, or better, when did you start or stop buying it?
Blouman Empire
06-12-2008, 07:25
As for the LEGO - and I'm asking that to anyone - From which years is most of your stuff, or better, when did you start or stop buying it?

Most of my stuff is from the early-mid 90's I mainly had the pirate themes and was even playing with them when they introduced the natives to the set, I also had a few of the city theme (the one from my time not the new theme ones they have brought out again) which I enjoyed playing again.

My younger brother started just when they brought out the Bionicles of course they have changed that over the years and the current ones look nothing like the original story line.

I stopped mid-90's and moved onto Technic just as I moved on from duplo into lego, I still have them somewhere around the place.
UNIverseVERSE
06-12-2008, 10:25
I honestly don't know all the bits. As a rough guess, we were buying at a fairly steady rate from about 1994 to 2004ish, with a bit of an emphasis on the earlier years there. There's been occasional bits since then, but not much I can think of.

Themes that I can think of us having offhand would include:

Pirates
Castles (both older and newer)
Underwater
Dinosaurs
Arctic
Western

And probably several others, in addition to a couple of the good old buckets of bricks.
Risottia
06-12-2008, 14:25
The Sun:

In the same article, it is said:

LEGO UK today issued a statement saying it is not associated with the toys being sold by BrickArms which have been customised without its knowledge or permission. It continued: "BrickArms is not licensed by LEGO UK to customise LEGO figures and has no links to the LEGO brand."

I knew it coulnd't be LEGO policy to produce such toys.

Oh, and btw, the old 4.5V and 12V LEGO trains still rule.
Ordo Drakul
06-12-2008, 14:35
Welcome to the 21st century-one has but to claim offense, and it's news. I'm certain your games of Cowboys-n-Native Americans were at least as offensive as my old Blue and Grey Civil War miniatures, and we're both horrid people for having played them-though if you claim parental abuse, it can be dolloped over as it's obciously your parents' fault for buying you the toys in the first place.
Johnny B Goode
06-12-2008, 19:15
Ooh boy, that sounds like trouble. :( Glad you made it back.

Real life. I've had enough of that in the last couple of months myself. Doing okay now. :tongue:


As for the LEGO - and I'm asking that to anyone - From which years is most of your stuff, or better, when did you start or stop buying it?

Mostly just lots and lots of homework.
Intangelon
06-12-2008, 19:21
Well I killed zillion indian figures and I became a lovely person.

Why are these terrorist figures morbid and why are the indian/cowboy figures not that morbid?

I believe 'we' killed much more indians in real life than the terrorists killed people.

Do you hear the indians complain about the indian figures?

Well yeah, of course they did. Nobody cared back then. Most still don't.
German Nightmare
06-12-2008, 20:35
I honestly don't know all the bits. As a rough guess, we were buying at a fairly steady rate from about 1994 to 2004ish, with a bit of an emphasis on the earlier years there. There's been occasional bits since then, but not much I can think of.

Themes that I can think of us having offhand would include:

Pirates
Castles (both older and newer)
Underwater
Dinosaurs
Arctic
Western

And probably several others, in addition to a couple of the good old buckets of bricks.
I always preferred the "simple" brick approach to building anything, especially houses and such. Those roads and moon tiles were great for building a city.
"BrickArms is not licensed by LEGO UK to customise LEGO figures and has no links to the LEGO brand."
I seriously wonder whether there is such a license to be obtained for customizing LEGO.
Oh, and btw, the old 4.5V and 12V LEGO trains still rule.
That they do indeed! (I grew up with the "motor block" which could be built into a train or a caterpillar, with the batteries in the next wagon/trailer)
Mostly just lots and lots of homework.
Hey, at least you're doing the homework. :p
The Lone Alliance
07-12-2008, 01:23
When it comes to Lego I can feel only saddness.

No more original ideas, no more imagination encouragement.

Now it's "Latest fad" and whatever theme they get sold.
Tagmatium
07-12-2008, 01:26
what surprised me most about the Sun article was that further down the page there was a link to the Sun's forums.
I had no idea Sun readers were able of writing in anything other than crayon, let alone capable of stringing coherrent sentences together. The screens on their PCs (how they must hate calling their computers that!) must be drenched in flecks of spittle as they work themselves up into yet another frenzy reading yet another story about a shoplifting unmarried muslim gypsy mum of five receiving 400 quid a week in benefits.
Heheh, spot on.
Dimesa
07-12-2008, 03:44
They never said it was bin laden, someone just blurted that out and the tabloid news went with it.

Still, the difference between cowboys & indians, ww2 soldiers, is that this is still going on today, they haven't "lost".
German Nightmare
07-12-2008, 04:56
When it comes to Lego I can feel only saddness.

No more original ideas, no more imagination encouragement.

Now it's "Latest fad" and whatever theme they get sold.
I agree. The less different ways there are to assemble those bricks, the less you can actually, well... do with it.

Plus, LEGO's recent spendings on themed products (Star Wars, Harry Potter, Indiana Jones) makes their stuff incredibly expensive.

Sure, as a kid I'd loved to have a LEGO AT-AT or Tie Fighter. But at their current prices, I couldn't even afford it today.
They never said it was bin laden, someone just blurted that out and the tabloid news went with it.

Still, the difference between cowboys & indians, ww2 soldiers, is that this is still going on today, they haven't "lost".
Tin soldiers have been around for a long, long time, mind you. So there really is no difference at all!
Johnny B Goode
07-12-2008, 16:20
Hey, at least you're doing the homework. :p

Truth.

On topic: I used to have a giant bucket of legos, and I loved them. Unfortunately, I wasn't half as imaginative as most kids seem to be.
Intestinal fluids
07-12-2008, 18:03
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Intestinal fluids
07-12-2008, 18:13
When it comes to Lego I can feel only saddness.

No more original ideas, no more imagination encouragement.

Now it's "Latest fad" and whatever theme they get sold.

You clearly are unaware of http://shop.lego.com/Product/Factory/Default.aspx?cn=301


Damn technology rules.
Soleichunn
07-12-2008, 21:14
Truth.

On topic: I used to have a giant bucket of legos, and I loved them. Unfortunately, I wasn't half as imaginative as most kids seem to be.

I had a whole saga over the years I had my tube of lego.
Vault 10
08-12-2008, 22:17
Lego sucks. Use Meccano.

I grew up with it (well, some cheap ripoff, but it's only more challenge when you have imperfect materials), and I can say the result is even more satisfying than the process.


That's all I have to say.
Someone elses problem
08-12-2008, 23:48
I like the Lego Rock Raiders and Lego Technics.
Thing is, you can't get Rock Raiders anymore (discontinued in 2000). I always wanted the full sets. :(