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So I am spiritual but not overly religious, and recently had a thread about how I was getting tired of the mainstream "End of Times" speculation. Now I've had my own crazy little weird experience.

A year ago my mother (a religious woman who does not normally do this kind of thing) had a dream that Tony Blair turned to her and said he knew who the Anti-Christ was at the back of a stage and that is all she remembered in this vivid dream. She just brought it up as just a dream and thought it a little silly but said it was weird because she had not read or seen or heard anything consciously about Tony Blair and he was far from her mind. (She is a southern lady in the United States)

So I was discussing with Obama supporters the crazy Anti-Christ speculation around Barack Obama, and how ridiculous people have become. I am bored at work and look up Tony Blair on the Internet.

It turns out after PM he was appointed Middle East Peace Envoy by the Quartet (a diplomatic grouping of Russia, US, European Union, AND United Nations) as their only Special Envoy for peace between Palestinians and Israelites. His assigned "home" granted him by the UN called a palace by some is on what is locally called the Hill of Evil Counsel where Judas supposedly plotted his betrayal of Jesus.

Here is an article from the Times UK that lays all of this out.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2116144.ece

He has recently started the Tony Blair Faith Foundation and in consultation with Yale is teaching "Faith and Globalization" which is described on his website as "Faith's global impact extends to various sectors of society--business, law, medicine, politics, education, and journalism. Survey perspectives on faith's role in globalisation from religious leaders, business professionals, media reporters, political leaders, and academicians. http://tonyblairfaithfoundation.org/projects/faith-and-globalisation/




Here is part of the article from the Times UK ( http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2116144.ece )

"TONY BLAIR is expected to inspect a prospective new home - known locally as a palace - when he travels to Jerusalem tomorrow on his first trip to the Middle East as a peace envoy.

He is said to be keen to take over the one-time residence of the British High Commissioner for Palestine, with its ballroom and spectacular view of the golden dome of Al-Aqsa mosque.

The house, built of Jerusalem stone in 1931, was once the pride of British diplomacy and occupies a commanding position in West Jerusalem on the inauspiciously named Hill of Evil Counsel, where Judas is said to have negotiated his betrayal of Jesus. It has acres of lush gardens filled with delphiniums, roses and trees. After the British mandate ended in 1948, it was taken over by the United Nations. "




My only point. This could be written in the Left Behind books and is the closest current event to fundamentalist Christian interpretation of the End of Times Biblical prophecy I have seen. I wonder why the fundamentalist Christians are not jumping on Tony Blair as a possible Anti-Christ connection.

Jesus was white, therefore the anti-christ will be black, therefore it's Obama. Simple.

They're not jumping on Tony Blair because most of them know that the bible is false.

And if it was true, there are a lot better candidates (hitler, saddam, osama, jehovah...)

Jesus was white, therefore the anti-christ will be black, therefore it's Obama. Simple.

If the bible is accurate, then since jesus existed, the antichrist must be fictitious. Time to pop in FF3 and beat up Kefka again!

The man's right eye seems to be intact.

WTF?! Is Tony Blair dropping LSD? :eek2:

This just seems like craziness.

The man's a shite who destroyed any credibility the UK had left by hanging on Bush's coat-tails during the whole Iraq debacle, but I doubt the man's the AntiChrist. He's a Thatcherite twat who fucked over the Labour party and made it some bastardised centre-right piece of crap, but not the man who will destroy the earth.

And the idea that we're living in the "End Times" is a load of dross, too. Idiot apocolyptic cults have been preaching this sort of thing for years, and none of them are right yet. Why the hell should it be now?

And why it is it always the Christian version of this sort of thing the "correct" one, anyway?

Could someone fill me in on how this could potentially make Blair the Anti-Christ?

I don't really know alot about Christian mythology, so all I see is him living in a house in Jerusalem...

Tony Blair is not from Mesopotamia. His right eye works, from what I know.

Could someone fill me in on how this could potentially make Blair the Anti-Christ?

I don't really know alot about Christian mythology, so all I see is him living in a house in Jerusalem...

It is not Christian mythology as so much the popular contemporary interpretation of Christian fundamentalist of the "End Times". Generally in fundamentalist culture this would all be interpreted as possibly tied to the Antichrist. His key role in bringing peace to Israel (because there is a belief that when there is peace in Israel that is a sign the Apocalypse is coming), his role in globalization (interpreted as helping to bring about one world government), his promotion interfaith cooperation whch they believe will help lead to one world religion. The location of the palace just looks bad. I am not a fundie but I just thought it all matched the view, and thought my mom's dream was weird at the time. They often believe generally anything to do with globalization, interfaith cooperation or new religious movements, and the Middle East is potentially tied to the End Times especially all these combined. They believe in varying ways to summarize peace will come to Israel, the temple will be rebuilt, a possible rapture will happen (some think and some do not) and the Antichrist will bring a one world government and religion.

I seriously doubt that Tony Blair, possibly one of the most disliked people by the Muslim world, will bring any lasting peace to the Near East. The man is probably viewed by the majority of people in that part of the world as nothing more than a tool of the Americans.

I seriously doubt that Tony Blair, possibly one of the most disliked people by the Muslim world, will bring any lasting peace to the Near East. The man is probably viewed by the majority of people in that part of the world as nothing more than a tool of the Americans.

Why was he ever appointed to that position which is strange.

Jesus was white, therefore the anti-christ will be black, therefore it's Obama. Simple.

jesus was black....

http://sharpiron.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/9558black-jesus-and-scenes-of-life-posters.jpg

Duh...Blair has pupils...

Ive never seen an Adaptation of the Anti-Christ with Pupils...

I thought everyone was aware of this...

There was a guy who came into my work, who told us that Tony Blair had given him a spaceship so he could take the handicapped people to the moon to find jobs.


Yeah.

So I am spiritual but not overly religious, and recently had a thread about how I was getting tired of the mainstream "End of Times" speculation. Now I've had my own crazy little weird experience.

A year ago my mother (a religious woman who does not normally do this kind of thing) had a dream that Tony Blair turned to her and said he knew who the Anti-Christ was at the back of a stage and that is all she remembered in this vivid dream. She just brought it up as just a dream and thought it a little silly but said it was weird because she had not read or seen or heard anything consciously about Tony Blair and he was far from her mind. (She is a southern lady in the United States)

So I was discussing with Obama supporters the crazy Anti-Christ speculation around Barack Obama, and how ridiculous people have become. I am bored at work and look up Tony Blair on the Internet.

It turns out after PM he was appointed Middle East Peace Envoy by the Quartet (a diplomatic grouping of Russia, US, European Union, AND United Nations) as their only Special Envoy for peace between Palestinians and Israelites. His assigned "home" granted him by the UN called a palace by some is on what is locally called the Hill of Evil Counsel where Judas supposedly plotted his betrayal of Jesus.

Here is an article from the Times UK that lays all of this out.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2116144.ece

He has recently started the Tony Blair Faith Foundation and in consultation with Yale is teaching "Faith and Globalization" which is described on his website as "Faith's global impact extends to various sectors of society--business, law, medicine, politics, education, and journalism. Survey perspectives on faith's role in globalisation from religious leaders, business professionals, media reporters, political leaders, and academicians. http://tonyblairfaithfoundation.org/projects/faith-and-globalisation/




Here is part of the article from the Times UK ( http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2116144.ece )

"TONY BLAIR is expected to inspect a prospective new home - known locally as a palace - when he travels to Jerusalem tomorrow on his first trip to the Middle East as a peace envoy.

He is said to be keen to take over the one-time residence of the British High Commissioner for Palestine, with its ballroom and spectacular view of the golden dome of Al-Aqsa mosque.

The house, built of Jerusalem stone in 1931, was once the pride of British diplomacy and occupies a commanding position in West Jerusalem on the inauspiciously named Hill of Evil Counsel, where Judas is said to have negotiated his betrayal of Jesus. It has acres of lush gardens filled with delphiniums, roses and trees. After the British mandate ended in 1948, it was taken over by the United Nations. "




My only point. This could be written in the Left Behind books and is the closest current event to fundamentalist Christian interpretation of the End of Times Biblical prophecy I have seen. I wonder why the fundamentalist Christians are not jumping on Tony Blair as a possible Anti-Christ connection.

There is no 'end times'. We'll all be long dead, and dust for a billion years before the 'world ends'. There is no antichrist. There will be no 'days of revelations'. No tribulation. No one is meeting us in the air.

Jesus was white, therefore the anti-christ will be black, therefore it's Obama. Simple.

Wasn't Jesus like Palestinian or something...that would make him brown...which means the anti-christ is...Chinese?

There is no 'end times'. We'll all be long dead, and dust for a billion years before the 'world ends'.

Not if we really put our mind to it :) I bet you we could pull it off in a couple of generations if we were really creative on the matter.

Not if we really put our mind to it :) I bet you we could pull it off in a couple of generations if we were really creative on the matter.

Sure... but I think the 'best' we could do is dent the world a bit. I'm pretty sure, with some determined effort, we could make it uninhabitable in the next few decades... maybe even sterile. But I fully expect it to just keep floating round in much the same orbit, for quite a while.

World's on fire, rivers and seas of blood, moons falling into the oceans, and all that other crazy shit? Evidence that LSD is not a new invention.

No one is meeting us in the air.
There goes my chance at the Mile High Club...

Sure... but I think the 'best' we could do is dent the world a bit. I'm pretty sure, with some determined effort, we could make it uninhabitable in the next few decades... maybe even sterile. But I fully expect it to just keep floating round in much the same orbit, for quite a while.

World's on fire, rivers and seas of blood, moons falling into the oceans, and all that other crazy shit? Evidence that LSD is not a new invention.

I'm thinking of something far more grandiose than merely nuking the surface--even cracking the tectonic plate. You touched on one of the most effective ways to bring this ol' dirtball to bits. I'd think a good, concentrated effort to screw with gravity could be used to hurl the moon into the Earth, preferably whacking both bodies into the sun.

Now, we're talking about technology that hasn't been developed yet, but enough creative thinking, and we can get there far sooner than anyone would think ;)

I'm thinking of something far more grandiose than merely nuking the surface--even cracking the tectonic plate. You touched on one of the most effective ways to bring this ol' dirtball to bits. I'd think a good, concentrated effort to screw with gravity could be used to hurl the moon into the Earth, preferably whacking both bodies into the sun.

Now, we're talking about technology that hasn't been developed yet, but enough creative thinking, and we can get there far sooner than anyone would think ;)

The moon isn't going to crash into the earth - it'd break up*. Of course - being hit by a big chunk of moon still wouldn't be much fun.

I'm not sure the next few centuries, even, are going to give us a technology that would let us do something REALLY spectacular, like drop the planet into the sun.

With current, or likely imminent, technology, the most lethal answer is probably the mass nuke option.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit

EDIT: Added 'Roche Limit' link.

Sure... but I think the 'best' we could do is dent the world a bit. I'm pretty sure, with some determined effort, we could make it uninhabitable in the next few decades... maybe even sterile. But I fully expect it to just keep floating round in much the same orbit, for quite a while.

World's on fire, rivers and seas of blood, moons falling into the oceans, and all that other crazy shit? Evidence that LSD is not a new invention.

What if we managed to put All the world's Resources into making one reallly fuckin huge Bomb...

And blew it into chunks? lol

The moon isn't going to crash into the earth - it'd break up*. Of course - being hit by a big chunk of moon still wouldn't be much fun.

I'm not sure the next few centuries, even, are going to give us a technology that would let us do something REALLY spectacular, like drop the planet into the sun.

With current, or likely imminent, technology, the most lethal answer is probably the mass nuke option.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roche_limit

EDIT: Added 'Roche Limit' link.

True...and if we got to the point where we could manipulate the moon sufficiently to get it to whack the Earth, why not merely cook up a black hole and set it loose in the local vicinity.

Jesus was white, therefore the anti-christ will be black, therefore it's Obama. Simple.

And where did ANYBODY say that? :confused: ;)

jesus was black....

http://sharpiron.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/9558black-jesus-and-scenes-of-life-posters.jpg

Jesus was also apparently ripped. Also the least hairy Jew ever, it seems. :eek2:

Jesus was also apparently ripped. Also the least hairy Jew ever, it seems. :eek2:

How else are you going to battle Buddha, that guys MASSIVE! lol