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Man Says Wife Was Accidentally Shot During Sex

Man Says Gun Went Off Accidentally

SPRINGFIELD, Ohio -- A Tri-State woman is in critical condition Wednesday after police say her husband shot her while they were having sex.

Timothy Havens, 38, told Springfield police he was reaching for something on the nightstand when the pistol went off, hitting his estranged wife Carolyn in the upper chest. (Hear part of the 911 call)

Carolyn Havens, 42, is being treated at Miami Valley Hospital in Dayton.

This is isn't the first time there's been trouble for the Havens. Court documents showed Timothy served 60 days in jail for assaulting his wife and was ordered to go to anger management classes.

His arrest Tuesday for the weekend shooting was for violating a civil protection order that Carolyn had taken out against him earlier this year.

Bond was set at $75,000 after prosecutors asked for a high bond, "due to alleged prohibited contact between the parties (and) the suspicious nature of the circumstances surrounding (her injury)."

Link (http://www.wlwt.com/cnn-news/18196466/detail.html)

Apparently, he had an "accidental discharge." :tongue:

[/giggling like a schoolgirl]

What the fuck was he doing with a loaded gun on his nightstand anyway?!

What the fuck was he doing with a loaded gun on his nightstand anyway?!

Yeh...everyone I know has lasers or throwing knives on their nightstands. What a weirdo :eek:

Thats it! Take all the guns from every American!

The pun notwithstanding, I'm struggling to see what's quite so funny about domestic violence?

What the fuck was he doing with a loaded gun on his nightstand anyway?!

Yeah. It's supposed to be IN the nightstand!

I once dislocated my girlfriend's knee during sex, that was a fun night.

It's hard to put clothes on someone with a dislocated knee, they're quite fussy about it as well.

The pun notwithstanding, I'm struggling to see what's quite so funny about domestic violence?

But this was an accident...the guy said so. What reason do you have to doubt his word? He can't have done it in rage, he's done special classes and has a certificate to prove he can manage his anger. I find it very difficult to believe someone like that is capable of such actions.

- Real answer- this NSG - and there's a pun involved, involving sex. Ordinary rules of decency and morals from Real Life? Out the window.

Uh-oh. Painful discharge. They make a pill for that. *nod*

Of course he's got a gun at his night stand...

Everyone knows ancient weapons and hokey religions are no match for a good gun at your side :rolleyes:

Yeah. It's supposed to be IN the nightstand!

It shouldn't have been loaded anyway. It was deliberate, look at the guys history...

Yeh...everyone I know has lasers or throwing knives on their nightstands. What a weirdo :eek:

Or something safe, like a lightsaber...

Damn, I thought this was gonna be about the band. I got excited.

Damn, I thought this was gonna be about the band. I got excited.

Man, I thought the same thing...I was like Ozzy Osborne, and Johnny Rotten, Same Night? :eek2::hail: lol

Him having sex with her definitely sounds like his breach of his restraining order was entirely his fault and he should definitely be punished with no regard taken to the fact that she clearly was very happy to allow it. Entirely his fault. Restraining orders should definitely apply when the person who has taken them out no longer feels they should apply.

Or something safe, like a lightsaber...

I don't think you can ever really go wrong with a flamethrower, to be honest.

I don't think you can ever really go wrong with a flamethrower, to be honest.

Idk...ive played Halo >.>

Maybe the couple incorporated the gun as foreplay and dude got twitchy and she got shot.


Meh.

Maybe the couple incorporated the gun as foreplay and dude got twitchy and she got shot.


Meh.

With his record, unlikely. My first thought was actually they were rape roleplaying. Then I read about his record.

Him having sex with her definitely sounds like his breach of his restraining order was entirely his fault and he should definitely be punished with no regard taken to the fact that she clearly was very happy to allow it. Entirely his fault. Restraining orders should definitely apply when the person who has taken them out no longer feels they should apply.

Maybe the restraining order was some sort of erotic foreplay. Some people like to be restrained during sex. :)

Him having sex with her definitely sounds like his breach of his restraining order was entirely his fault and he should definitely be punished with no regard taken to the fact that she clearly was very happy to allow it. Entirely his fault. Restraining orders should definitely apply when the person who has taken them out no longer feels they should apply.

I do not agree with this.

I don't think you can ever really go wrong with a flamethrower, to be honest.

Idk...ive played Halo >.>

Team Fortress 2 - Pyro - Backburner, Flare Gun, & Axetinguisher FTW!

Maybe the restraining order was some sort of erotic foreplay. Some people like to be restrained during sex. :)

Is legal paperwork the modernized version?

I do not agree with this.

Is sarcasm something you're not familiar with?

I mean, seriously, did you actually read the rest of my post?

Team Fortress 2 - Pyro - Backburner, Flare Gun, & Axetinguisher FTW!


Lol, im just saying the one in Halo's about useless...Energy Sword for the win!...

Is sarcasm something you're not familiar with?

Sarcasm and The Internet. The two tend to act like oil and water on the internet... though I found the post entirely amusing.

Sarcasm and The Internet. The two tend to act like oil and water on the internet... though I found the post entirely amusing.

I was torn as to whether he was serious or not...I declined to comment on it though...

Figure he's either crazy or just not serious, lol :p

I was torn as to whether he was serious or not...I declined to comment on it though...

Figure he's either crazy or just not serious, lol :p

She (sigs are a wonderful thing, no?). And well, I was quite clearly not serious. Although, in saying that, my posts are usually either deadly serious or dripping in sarcasm, so take your pick.

She (sigs are a wonderful thing, no?). And well, I was quite clearly not serious. Although, in saying that, my posts are usually either deadly serious or dripping in sarcasm, so take your pick.

Lol, I kinda figured, but the sliver of doubt was there...

And, sorry, I kind of assume everyone on the internet is male, unless told otherwise...

Force of Habit and all that...

Is legal paperwork the modernized version?

Maybe she was a lawyer.

This fucking state.

Lol, I kinda figured, but the sliver of doubt was there...

Well, fair enough.

And, sorry, I kind of assume everyone on the internet is male, unless told otherwise...

Force of Habit and all that...

Well, I've only been posting here for nearly five years with it advertised both in my signature and in my profile ;)

(Nah, you're new, most people think like you do, s'alright)

Is sarcasm something you're not familiar with?

I mean, seriously, did you actually read the rest of my post?

Considering its the internet, and your post was not obviously sarcastic, I suggest you drop the bitchy attitude.

Considering its the internet, and your post was not obviously sarcastic, I suggest you drop the bitchy attitude.

Considering I've had a fairly sarcastic posting style for nearly five years, and that it quite clearly was sarcastic, I suggest you practice your reading comprehension.

Considering I've had a fairly sarcastic posting style for nearly five years, and that it quite clearly was sarcastic, I suggest you practice your reading comprehension.

Not only do I not really remember any of your posts, the statement you made is something that is easy to forsee someone make in seriousness.

Again, the bitchy attitude doesnt make you more "right".

(Nah, you're new, most people think like you do, s'alright)

Pertinently...

I was reasonably confident we had this whole gender inequality thing licked, until I fathered a girl. I mean, I was aware things were not perfect. I worked in corporate-land; women were clearly held to different standards than men. But still: close enough, I thought. In the grand scheme, there were bigger problems.

Now I realize the smallest hint of sex discrimination is A GLOBAL CONSPIRACY TARGETING MY DAUGHTER. And it’s everywhere. Why is every animal assumed to be male? Why is “he” used interchangeably with “it” in a great swathe of children’s picture books? I’ll tell you why: because male is the default setting for everything, unless it’s soft and pink. Or a cat. I’m not sure why cats are the exception. But everything else is “he.”

I realized this was a problem when Fin began naming her teddies. I don’t mind her having boy teddies. Boy teddies are fine, in limited quantities. But she thought almost all of them were all boy teddies. That didn’t seem right. I realized I was doing that thing: using “he” as default. I had imprinted her.

So I switched defaults. It’s a simple rule: you assume that everything is female unless there’s clear evidence to the contrary. Animals, teddies, unseen car drivers: all girls. It proved surprisingly difficult. I’ve been doing it about a year and I still sometimes slip up.

I also began converting Fin’s teddies. Now, possibly I’m teaching her that boys sometimes spontaneously turn into girls. But I had to do something about that men’s club. She’s picked up on it: many of them now waver between male and female, according to Fin, and a few I think I’ve turned completely.

Just the other day we saw a dog in the street and Fin asked if it was a boy or a girl. I asked what she thought. “I think it’s a girl,” she said. That was new.

That’s why all my examples now are going to be “she.” I used to try to mix it up: a “he” example here, a “she” example there. To, you know, be balanced. But now I realize the world is full of “he.” I don’t need to add any more.

Next I plan to father an illegitimate child with a Kenyan and discover we still haven’t solved racism.

From Max Barry himself.

Not only do I not really remember any of your posts, the statement you made is something that is easy to forsee someone make in seriousness.

Oh, shit, you don't remember any of my posts?

Fuck, I am sorry.

I might as well stop posting; Knight of Liberty doesn't remember me.

I'm so devastated. I don't know how I will ever be able to post here again.

Woe betide me.

Again, the bitchy attitude doesnt make you more "right".

I'm sorry, but if you are incapable of picking up the tone of a post that's not entirely, or at all, my problem.

Perhaps the lack of ability to analyse my post might be yours? I'm not sure.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, however, seeing as I'm nice like that; it's definitely my fault that you can't do what other posters here have managed to do.

We need expert opinions, someone poke those folks over on the etiquette threads to see whether they'd consider this rude or not.