NationStates Jolt Archive


Question About State Sponsors of Terrorism

Antilon
04-12-2008, 00:20
U.S. State Dept.'s "State Sponsors of Terrorism" List (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/c14151.htm)
Cuba
Iran
Sudan
Syria

So my question is, has any other nation has declared the U.S. to be a state sponsor of terrorism?
Andaluciae
04-12-2008, 00:23
Libya, North Korea and South Yemen were, and have since been removed.

As, has, quite obviously, Iraq.
Andaluciae
04-12-2008, 00:25
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Sponsors_of_Terrorism

Wikipedia should be your friend.
South Lorenya
04-12-2008, 00:27
Antilon's not asking for countries on our list, but countries that had US on THEIR list...
SaintB
04-12-2008, 00:50
*plays Devil's advocate*

Just Nuke them all!
NERVUN
04-12-2008, 00:59
Here ya go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_terrorism_and_the_United_States#Allegations_of_terrorism_made_by_the_United_States_against_sov ereign_states
The Cat-Tribe
04-12-2008, 01:29
U.S. State Dept.'s "State Sponsors of Terrorism" List (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/c14151.htm)
Cuba
Iran
Sudan
Syria

So my question is, has any other nation has declared the U.S. to be a state sponsor of terrorism?

I know this is incidental to your topic, but it is pretty stupid that Cuba is listed there. The details of why (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2005/64337.htm) are primarily (1) Cuba hasn't assisted us in the "War on Terror" (go figure), (2) a few beefs back-and forth about extradition, and (3) Cuba is friends with Iran and N. Korea (although the latter isn't on the list). Cuba appears to have as good as or better case against the U.S.
Dumb Ideologies
04-12-2008, 01:48
I feel sorry for state-sponsored terrorists. Hard work having to go round from country to country, asking governments for funds for their cause, only to be pledged paltry amounts such as £1 per death, 50p per serious injury etc, having to wear a funny costume or come up with some other novelty to tempt governments into providing extra funds. Very frustrating. And at the end, the sponsors always pay up late too. Won't someone please think of the terrorists?
SaintB
04-12-2008, 01:55
I feel sorry for state-sponsored terrorists. Hard work having to go round from country to country, asking governments for funds for their cause, only to be pledged paltry amounts such as £1 per death, 50p per serious injury etc, having to wear a funny costume to or some other novelty to tempt governments into extra sponsorship. Very frustrating. And at the end, the sponsors always pay up late too. Won't someone please think of the terrorists?

Nuke 'em! Nuke 'em all! Kill kill kill!

This is getting exhausting... where's Hotwife or Trollgaurd when you need them?
Quintessence of Dust
04-12-2008, 02:00
So my question is, has any other nation has declared the U.S. to be a state sponsor of terrorism?
Yes. The most famous example would probably be Nicaragua v. United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States), found in the former's favour by the ICJ.
Antilon
04-12-2008, 04:16
Yes. The most famous example would probably be Nicaragua v. United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States), found in the former's favour by the ICJ.

It doesn't mention if Nicaragua declared the U.S. to be a "state sponsor of terrorism," just that the U.S. was found breaching the "Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the United States of America and the Republic of Nicaragua," by supporting the Contra guerrillas against the Nicaraguan government.
Quintessence of Dust
04-12-2008, 04:43
That's the court finding, but witnesses on behalf of Nicaragua did so testify, such as Luis Carrion, who argued the PSYOPS manual fomented terrorism, and Michael Glennon and Fr. Jean Loison, who argued the Contras engaged in terrorism (and the Contras were funded by the US). More recently, Daniel Ortega has claimed Nicaragua (and other countries, such as Iran) were/are victims of US terrorism.
Trollgaard
04-12-2008, 04:48
Nuke 'em! Nuke 'em all! Kill kill kill!

This is getting exhausting... where's Hotwife or Trollgaurd when you need them?

What?

No nukes, plz.
Antilon
04-12-2008, 04:57
That's the court finding, but witnesses on behalf of Nicaragua did so testify, such as Luis Carrion, who argued the PSYOPS manual fomented terrorism, and Michael Glennon and Fr. Jean Loison, who argued the Contras engaged in terrorism (and the Contras were funded by the US). More recently, Daniel Ortega has claimed Nicaragua (and other countries, such as Iran) were/are victims of US terrorism.

That's what I find somewhat surprising; why haven't other countries labeled the U.S. of being a "state sponsor of terrorism," as in publically and officially denouncing U.S. policies as acts in support of terrorism?
Quintessence of Dust
04-12-2008, 05:05
That's what I find somewhat surprising; why haven't other countries labeled the U.S. of being a "state sponsor of terrorism," as in publically and officially denouncing U.S. policies as acts in support of terrorism?
Why would they? To pick one, completely random, example from a film I saw t'other day:

When Belgium considered legal proceedings against Sharon and others allegedly complicit in Sabra and Shatila, John Bolton flew there and threatened removal of NATO HQ.

The US has power, influence, guns, and money. Calling it names is unlikely to rebound well at the next trade rounds, or when your company wants to buy or sell armaments, or when a regional partner starts acting up, or when a disease needs treatment with US patented drugs, or myriad other circumstances.
Free Lofeta
04-12-2008, 05:51
I think the State Sponsorship of Terror is a potentially brilliant idea.

Nothing would slow Osama bin Laden down like the Civil Service.
Forsakia
04-12-2008, 07:41
The UK rather notably declared Iceland a terrorist state a while back.
Callisdrun
04-12-2008, 07:43
U.S. State Dept.'s "State Sponsors of Terrorism" List (http://www.state.gov/s/ct/c14151.htm)
Cuba
Iran
Sudan
Syria

So my question is, has any other nation has declared the U.S. to be a state sponsor of terrorism?

Cuba sponsors terrorism? Where?