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The conflict between Georgia and Russia in August and the internal debate in Ukraine mean that Nato is in no hurry to see either Ukraine or Georgia join the alliance.

Nato foreign ministers meeting in Brussels this week will restate the principle that they can become members, but in practice they will take few steps to make this happen anytime soon.

Also pretty much linked -

Nato has agreed to a "conditional and graduated re-engagement" with Russia, the alliance's secretary general says.

Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said talks with Moscow, which were frozen over its war with Georgia in August, would resume.

First Story : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7759257.stm
Second Story : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7759833.stm

So what do you make of all this? I, for one, am relieved.

Surprise, surprise...

Worst pun title ever.

Hold on, "wait-o to join NATO"?

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Why do all you guys hate freedom :(

i don't think it has to do with them being ex soviet countries as their situations.
Georgia has Russian troops on their soil and needs to resolve that before joining either by convincing Russia to leave or just recognizing those regions independence.

The Ukraine has a sizable Russian minority that may react violently to joining Nato which could draw Russia into a conflict. the Ukraine needs to have the support of this minority before an application to Nato should be considered.

i don't think it has to do with them being ex soviet countries as their situations.
Georgia has Russian troops on their soil and needs to resolve that before joining either by convincing Russia to leave or just recognizing those regions independence.

The Ukraine has a sizable Russian minority that may react violently to joining Nato which could draw Russia into a conflict. the Ukraine needs to have the support of this minority before an application to Nato should be considered.
I think that the instability of those two countries also needs to be taken care of, and Saakashvilli needs to stay way the hell away from Georgian politics if they're going to have any chance of joining. Attacking Russian peacekeepers and getting counterattacked by Russia would be much less "something to chat about idly on the internet" and more "AIEE NUCLEAR WAR HURTS :(" were Georgia to become a member.

i don't think it has to do with them being ex soviet countries as their situations.
Georgia has Russian troops on their soil and needs to resolve that before joining either by convincing Russia to leave or just recognizing those regions independence.

The Ukraine has a sizable Russian minority that may react violently to joining Nato which could draw Russia into a conflict. the Ukraine needs to have the support of this minority before an application to Nato should be considered.

But if they do join NATO, they get to keep their soverignty when 2017 rolls around and the Russia black sea fleet gets kicked out of the Ukraine, Russia will think twice maybe even three times about invading them.

This thread-o is making me laugh-o!:D

NATO sucks!
Osama Bin Laden's on its books!

But if they do join NATO, they get to keep their soverignty when 2017 rolls around and the Russia black sea fleet gets kicked out of the Ukraine, Russia will think twice maybe even three times about invading them.
They'll extend the deal *nods*
This thread-o is making me laugh-o!:D
Your words have to ryhme-o to make them sublime-o, Nanatsu :tongue:

Worst pun title ever.
That's not a pun, it just rhymes!
Now, if he'd said, "Nato isn't willing to Russia into any new alliances in Eastern Europe," that would be a pun, and a truly vile one at that.

They'll extend the deal *nods*

Your words have to ryhme-o to make them sublime-o, Nanatsu :tongue:

Reading this thread, I'll laugh and I'll be dead... Better?:tongue:

Reading this thread, I'll laugh and I'll be dead... Better?:tongue:
I'd compare you to a young Spike Milligan for that effort.

I think that the instability of those two countries also needs to be taken care of, and Saakashvilli needs to stay way the hell away from Georgian politics if they're going to have any chance of joining. Attacking Russian peacekeepers and getting counterattacked by Russia would be much less "something to chat about idly on the internet" and more "AIEE NUCLEAR WAR HURTS :(" were Georgia to become a member.

ahhh cmooon dude, russian peacekeepers? dont tell me that you believe in that stuff ^^

They'll extend the deal *nods*

Your words have to ryhme-o to make them sublime-o, Nanatsu :tongue:

No, they won't.

I'd compare you to a young Spike Milligan for that effort.

And who might Spike Milligan be?

And who might Spike Milligan be?

Old English commedian.

Old English commedian.

And therefore unfunny. English commedian is an oxymorron.

ahhh cmooon dude, russian peacekeepers? dont tell me that you believe in that stuff ^^
Uhu. Sorry, what do you believe? That poor Georgia was invaded by the Russians just because they really hate Georgians or something?
No, they won't.
Russia is not going to lose its Black Sea ports.
And who might Spike Milligan be?
British writer of comedy amongst other things.

And therefore unfunny. English commedian is an oxymorron.
Uhu...

And therefore unfunny. English commedian is an oxymorron.What's an "oxymorron"? And what's a "commedian"?

British writer of comedy amongst other things.

Oh gods, no! Your comedy is so dry and I don't understand it most of the time.

Oh gods, no! Your comedy is so dry and I don't understand it most of the time.

Yeah... sorry about that. :(

Yeah... sorry about that. :(

Do penance for it!:mad:


:D

Oh gods, no! Your comedy is so dry and I don't understand it most of the time.
Aye, dry like fine wine.

Probably the right thing to do right now. Even though such an act wouldn't be targeted at Russia by the established NATO members, the leadership of Ukraine and Georgia would try to treat it as a stick with which to poke Russia. It's best not to give Pooty-poot this sort of domestic propaganda tool, as we've already given him the MCD interceptors as a way to make a paranoid population rally around an external bogeyman.

Further, with current economic conditions and the attendant level of international disorganization, now is just the wrong time to do this.

Aye, dry like fine wine.

Dry wine tastes horrible.

Dry wine tastes horrible.
Dry wine is delicious. I'm partial to a bit of Tinto de Verano now and then, but I likes mah wines all dry and such.

Dry wine is delicious. I'm partial to a bit of Tinto de Verano now and then, but I likes mah wines all dry and such.

I like them more fruity, not sweet, but more fruity.

Worst pun title ever.

Hold on, "wait-o to join NATO"?

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I have been warning him about his titles for years now. The boy just doesn't learn. Where did we go wrong with him?!?!



Also, yay that those two nations are not in NATO. It really bugs me to have alliance with people who are not in the NA part of NATO. Also, it bugs me to put people in the alliance who are very big odds with one of our historical enemies. Its bad enough that our relationship with Russia is on thin ice, so we don't want to add more weight to that ice, unless we really like the cold of winter...Nuclear winter that is.

Dry wine tastes horrible.

The most exceptional Chardonnays are dry (and it's hard to find an exceptional Chardonnay nowadays).

I have been warning him about his titles for years now. The boy just doesn't learn. Where did we go wrong with him?!?!
My titles are ace.

The most exceptional Chardonnays are dry (and it's hard to find an exceptional Chardonnay nowadays).

I only drink Spanish wine, reds. Chardonnays, being French, to me, taste horribly.

Also, yay that those two nations are not in NATO. It really bugs me to have alliance with people who are not in the NA part of NATO.Turkey, Greece, and Italy have been in NATO for quite some time, though...

I only drink Spanish wine, reds. Chardonnays, being French, to me, taste horribly.
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My titles are ace.
Don't make me dig out those threads on the stolen church we made to prove you wrong.

Don't make me dig out those threads on the stolen church we made to prove you wrong.
HAH! "Dude, where's my church" - weak.

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hahahaha! You remind me of the shoop da woop version, which I will not post to avoid being warned for picspam. :p

hahahaha! You remind me of the shoop da woop version, which I will not post to avoid being warned for picspam. :p
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HAH! "Dude, where's my church" - weak.
As opposed to "Un-Orthodox theft in Russia". Lameness incarnate. =P

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Stop it! You're killing me. :D

Uhu. Sorry, what do you believe? That poor Georgia was invaded by the Russians just because they really hate Georgians or something?

Russia is not going to lose its Black Sea ports.

British writer of comedy amongst other things.

The Ukraine has already told them that when the lease is up, to GTFO.

The Ukraine has already told them that when the lease is up, to GTFO.
Fair enough, they're going to be based at Novorissiysk after that, aye?

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:D

Fair enough, they're going to be based at Novorissiysk after that, aye?

No, Putin's going going to invade and take it. Unless the Ukraine joins NATO.

The Ukraine has already told them that when the lease is up, to GTFO.Yushchenko is not "the Ukraine". Nor is Tymoshenko. In all likelihood, they may not be in power when the time comes.

No, Putin's going going to invade and take it. Unless the Ukraine joins NATO.
*sigh* No they're not.

Yushchenko is not "the Ukraine". Nor is Tymoshenko. In all likelihood, they may not be in power when the time comes.

I'm sorry. I didn't know that its only okay to refer to a leader's actions as the countries actions when its America.

I'm sorry. I didn't know that its only okay to refer to a leader's actions as the countries actions when its America.There appears to be a lot you don't know. In case you didn't know this: Yushchenko and Tymoshenko are the representatives of the Ukraine up until they're replaced. Ergo, any statements they make now concerning the lease will be meaningless if they are not reelected when the time comes.

What this basically means is that when you said "The Ukraine said GTFO so the lease won't be renewed", you were wrong, because you didn't take into account that the Ukraine can change its mind.

Uhu. Sorry, what do you believe? That poor Georgia was invaded by the Russians just because they really hate Georgians or something?

well first of all im surprised by your opinion cause u dont see what is happening... oh yeah, russians aint attacking georgia for some reason, like NATO or because they support normal democracy that isn't russia, they're protecting theyr citizens in georgia... yeah that is logical: u can attack the other country if they have citizens with ur countries passport ^^.And u still need a reason to attack a country? what about the Lithuania in June 15, 1940 ? was there a normal reason?

well first of all im surprised by your opinion cause u dont see what is happening... oh yeah, russians aint attacking georgia for some reason, like NATO or because they support normal democracy that isn't russia, they're protecting theyr citizens in georgia... yeah that is logical: u can attack the other country if they have citizens with ur countries passport ^^.And u still need a reason to attack a country? what about the Lithuania in June 15, 1940 ? was there a normal reason?Argh. Punctuation, grammar, and spelling. Use them. It may be bad form to criticize bad English on a forum, but your post is nigh unintelligible because of it.

Argh. Punctuation, grammar, and spelling. Use them. It may be bad form to criticize bad English on a forum, but your post is nigh unintelligible because of it.

sorry im not english :( but the point is to understand what i wrote...

well first of all im surprised by your opinion cause u dont see what is happening... oh yeah, russians aint attacking georgia for some reason, like NATO or because they support normal democracy that isn't russia, they're protecting theyr citizens in georgia... yeah that is logical: u can attack the other country if they have citizens with ur countries passport ^^.And u still need a reason to attack a country? what about the Lithuania in June 15, 1940 ? was there a normal reason?
They didn't attack Georgia, the Georgians killed some Russian UN peacekeepers when they attacked South Ossetia and there was a counterattack.

They didn't attack Georgia, the Georgians killed some Russian UN peacekeepers when they attacked South Ossetia and there was a counterattack.

whatever... this is useless ^^

whatever... this is useless ^^Why? Can you provide evidence to the contrary?

whatever... this is useless ^^

If you find this useless, either back it up or gtfo.

Awesome, put the brake on world-wide military government.

All objections to be addressed to Useless.

:p

If you find this useless, either back it up or gtfo.

oh shi-