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http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=992946

OTTAWA -- The Carleton University Students' Association has voted to drop a cystic fibrosis charity as the beneficiary of its annual Shinearama fundraiser, supporting a motion that argued the disease is not "inclusive" enough.

Cystic fibrosis "has been recently revealed to only affect white people, and primarily men" said the motion read Monday night to student councillors, who voted almost unanimously in favour of it.

Ah, I see.

Nothing like voting out of sheer divisiveness, or sheer ignorance...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081125/carleton_fundraiser_081125/20081125?hub=Canada

It is correct to say that cystic fibrosis "does affect Caucasian populations primarily," according to Cathleen Morrison, CEO of the CCFF.

However, the term Caucasian includes people from South Asia, North Africa, the Persian Gulf and Israel, Morrison said.

"These are Caucasian populations," Morrison told CTV.ca. "These people do not have white skin. They have CF, it now seems, in the same ratios as other Caucasian people who do have white skin."

Cystic fibrosis, which is the most common genetic fatal disease in young people in Canada, affects just as many young girls as boys, Morrison added.

So the students are completely stupid, too. Makes me wonder how they got into university. It's apparent to me that their only real motivation was "stick it to white men"

I think it's perfectly in their power to choose who their beneficiaries are, but then, it sounded st~pid.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=992946



Ah, I see.

Nothing like voting out of sheer divisiveness, or sheer ignorance...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081125/carleton_fundraiser_081125/20081125?hub=Canada



So the students are completely stupid, too. Makes me wonder how they got into university. It's apparent to me that their only real motivation was "stick it to white men"

"Never let school interfere with your education."

Mark Twain, he seems to have a quote for everything, doesn't he?

Presumably they do not contribute to any sickle-cell anemia charities either? If they want to be uniformly stupid, then let them be.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=992946



Ah, I see.

Nothing like voting out of sheer divisiveness, or sheer ignorance...

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20081125/carleton_fundraiser_081125/20081125?hub=Canada



So the students are completely stupid, too. Makes me wonder how they got into university. It's apparent to me that their only real motivation was "stick it to white men"
yup. thats dumb.

Presumably they do not contribute to any sickle-cell anemia charities either? If they want to be uniformly stupid, then let them be.

It's one thing to not contribute to a particular charity. I realize that there's not enough money from a particular fund raising event to give money everywhere.

But their rationale for doing so, being both divisive and inane at the same time...

Presumably they do not contribute to any sickle-cell anemia charities either? If they want to be uniformly stupid, then let them be.

Well actually, being that sickle cell anemia affects black people, then it actually is a diverse enough of a disease to receive charitable funding from that school.

Don't you just love the PC crap?

It's one thing to not contribute to a particular charity. I realize that there's not enough money from a particular fund raising event to give money everywhere.

But their rationale for doing so, being both divisive and inane at the same time...

It's all fine if they want to apply their absurd rationale equally. Black people are disproportionately affected by sickle-cell diseases. It's not a "diverse" debilitating illness, so it shouldn't receive funding. Only diseases that can equally impact all races should be funded.

It's all fine if they want to apply their absurd rationale equally. Black people are disproportionately affected by sickle-cell diseases. It's not a "diverse" debilitating illness, so it shouldn't receive funding. Only diseases that can equally impact all races should be funded.

Maybe they should fund research into mental retardation.

Well actually, being that sickle cell anemia affects black people, then it actually is a diverse enough of a disease to receive charitable funding from that school.

Don't you just love the PC crap?

You speak to me like the irony wasn't exactly my point.

Cystic fibrosis "has been recently revealed to only affect white people, and primarily men" said the motion read Monday night to student councillors, who voted almost unanimously in favour of it.How odd. Have they voted to eliminate "sickle cell anemia" as a charity cause, since that predominately afflicts black people?

I suppose they could just chuck them all together as heritable diseases. That's pretty inclusive.

First, this move by the CUSA is irretrievably and indefinsibly stupid.

Second, the reporting on what exactly the CUSA did is rather vague. It sounds like this was a resolution inspired by one student volunteer and other student representatives didn't think it through very well. It also sounds like one naysayer has been hyping the "anti-diversity" angle in the news reports (from the OP story):

CUSA president Brittany Smyth said the idea of changing next year's orientation fundraiser to focus on a different charity, perhaps a local cause, first came up about a year ago.

She said that the part of the motion that refers to why Shinerama has been cancelled is irrelevant, not part of the official meeting record and simply reflects the rationale of the councillor who raised the motion.

"It completely depends on the individual," Smyth told CTV.ca. "It's 100 per cent their opinion. Their opinion doesn't have to be fact or anything really. It's just how this individual felt."

Only the resolution is important, Smyth said.


Third, the CUSA is already planning on reconsidering its actions. link (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/carleton_cystic_fibrosis), link (http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5htCep6bKtDUFm7YDgiY4-rC3yW0A)

Regardless, this is a pretty obscure move by a pretty obscure organization of excitable college students. The "OMG PC run wild" reaction is almost as stupid as the CUSA's decision at issue.

You speak to me like the irony wasn't exactly my point.

Wilgrove in missing the point shocker!

well for the first time ever it seems being white sucks :(

why can't we have a cool disease like not being able to dance?

edit: also I hold the theory that this took place at university and is such inevitable

Well actually, being that sickle cell anemia affects black people, then it actually is a diverse enough of a disease to receive charitable funding from that school.

Don't you just love the PC crap?

How is a disease that affects mainly black people more diverse than one that mainly affects white people?

This is Canada what do you expect?

Presumably they do not contribute to any sickle-cell anemia charities either? If they want to be uniformly stupid, then let them be.

Hopefully also Tay-Sachs and Canavan

I support this move, Cystic Fibrosis is nothing by bigotry. And like most bigots, once you starve it of attention, it will wither away!!

Wilgrove in missing the point shocker!

who woulda thunk it?

Yet another argument for why my generation shouldn't be allowed to have a say in anything, ever.

"Never let school interfere with your education."

Mark Twain, he seems to have a quote for everything, doesn't he?

'cause Mark Twain is GOD.

How is a disease that affects mainly black people more diverse than one that mainly affects white people?

Isn't that his point?

WTF?

This is extremely ridiculous but of course we can't seem to be favouring white people now can we? :rolleyes:

This is Canada what do you expect?

Trees, snow and Mounties.

Isn't that his point?

I wasn't sure that was why I was asking - he seems to be saying that things that affect mainly black people are 'diverse' and will be funded because of 'political correctness' - to me he seems to be using 'diverse' as a synonym for black.

I wasn't sure that was why I was asking - he seems to be saying that things that affect mainly black people are 'diverse' and will be funded because of 'political correctness' - to me he seems to be using 'diverse' as a synonym for black.

I don't know I thought he was using diverse as a sarcastic term. As in the uni thinks cyctic fibros can no longer be funded because it affects white people more and thus is not diverse enough, whereas sickle cell anemia affects black people mainly but is diverse enough to be funded.

Wilgrove in missing the point shocker!
Along with Hotwife in "I've found something else to hate Liberals about (it gives me purpose in life and a reason to get up in the morning)" thread shocker!

My God, what are the chances of both happening in the same thread?!

I don't know I thought he was using diverse as a sarcastic term. As in the uni thinks cyctic fibros can no longer be funded because it affects white people more and thus is not diverse enough, whereas sickle cell anemia affects black people mainly but is diverse enough to be funded.

Is that sarcastic or is it racist

Is that sarcastic or is it racist

Ok, now you have lost me.

Ok, now you have lost me.

Well as far as I can see there is no evidence about Sickle Cell being funded or not.

Well as far as I can see there is no evidence about Sickle Cell being funded or not.

Wasn't it brought up as an example by someone?

Well as far as I can see there is no evidence about Sickle Cell being funded or not.

He was merely commenting on the notion that PC people, use "diverse" as a codeword for "not white", and that it'd be ridiculous to apply the standard anywhere else in terms of disease research. Or at least that's my take.

Last I checked, anyone can make or not make charitable donations to any damn body they please for any damn reason. You or I may think it's stupid, but it's their fundraiser, and therefore their funds. And, you know, their decision.

He was merely commenting on the notion that PC people, use "diverse" as a codeword for "not white", and that it'd be ridiculous to apply the standard anywhere else in terms of disease research. Or at least that's my take.PC people?

PC people?
as opposed to MAC people. They'd never do such a thing.

I believe the stupidity has given me brain cancer.

Last I checked, anyone can make or not make charitable donations to any damn body they please for any damn reason. You or I may think it's stupid, but it's their fundraiser, and therefore their funds. And, you know, their decision.

Which in no way prevents us from questioning their ability to win a debate with a brick wall.

Along with Hotwife in "I've found something else to hate Liberals about (it gives me purpose in life and a reason to get up in the morning)" thread shocker!

Yeah, but at least this time it's a semi-good reason.