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Ann Coulter's jaw is broken. I don't wish her ill, but isn't the silence sweet.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/25/hear-this-ann-coulters-jaw-wired-shut/?icid=200100397x1214123968x1200844425

God, I hope her jaw stays wired shut.

Really, it would just make the world a better place.

God, I hope her jaw stays wired shut.

Really, it would just make the world a better place.

Ten minutes and a soldering iron can make it happen. :D

the poor thing.

and just as her new book comes out.

the poor thing.

and just as her new book comes out.

I really think we should keep track of everyone who buys her books.


And then revoke their right to vote.

Ten minutes and a soldering iron can make it happen. :D
Or five minutes and an arc welder. *nod*

Or five minutes and an arc welder. *nod*

20 seconds and a lugar.


I win.

Why does this impact on her speaking abilities? She talks out of her ass, remember?

I don't wish her ill
Speak for yourself!

I really think we should keep track of everyone who buys her books.


And then revoke their right to vote.
the friend of a friend of mine was completely taken with her book "treason" and tried to convince me that she was very right in her views.

that kind of thing is scary when you realize that he was an adult who was managing his own life.

the friend of a friend of mine was completely taken with her book "treason" and tried to convince me that she was very right in her views.

that kind of thing is scary when you realize that he was an adult who was managing his own life.

Are you sure he was managing his own life? Because the first part of your post leaves me to believe he had down syndrom.

lol

he was.

after a fashion.

it was a few years back but he seemed to be the type who likes any justification for their unfounded beliefs. sort of a "see if you look at it this way liberals are awful, it doesnt matter that its twisted" thing.

I noticed, looking at the picture with her mouth obliterated, that she has incredibly angry eyes. I remember being that angry after my ex and I split. Do you suppose all this right wing angst is about a man?

Ten minutes and a soldering iron can make it happen. :D

If you're not careful however, you might end up with this...

http://deshika.files.wordpress.com/2007/04/james_bond_jaws.jpg

I noticed, looking at the picture with her mouth obliterated, that she has incredibly angry eyes. I remember being that angry after my ex and I split. Do you suppose all this right wing angst is about a man?

Maybe someone punched her in the jaw and thats how it broke.


If so, someone give them the key to the city.

lol

he was.

after a fashion.

it was a few years back but he seemed to be the type who likes any justification for their unfounded beliefs. sort of a "see if you look at it this way liberals are awful, it doesnt matter that its twisted" thing.

That reminds me of the Bill Hicks bit about the Rodney King criminal trial in 1993:

"See officer, that Rodney King tape? Yeah, it's all in how you look at it."

And a whispery hush falls over the courtroom as someone hisses "Jesus, what balls!"

What balls indeed! These guys must have wheelbarrows to haul those massive balls around!

"Scuse me, scuse me, man with big balls has come to testify..."

"Place your right testicle on the Bible...*whump*"

So the judge asks Officer Koon, "It's all in how you look at it, Officer... ...Koon?

Yup, Officer Koon. Is life too damned weird or what? the judge continues:

"So, Officer Koon, Officer ******-Hater, and Officer Keepdarkiedown, how exactly are you looking at this tape?"

"Awright, awright, see, it's all how ya look at it... ...see, if you play the tape backwards, you see us help King up and send him on is way."

*big audience laugh*

*gavel bang* "Not guilty"

"Scuse me, scuse me, man with big balls as just been acquitted...."

Bush ahd her given a bionic jaw now she can talk twice as fast.

Unfortunately, she can still type. Wake me up if she breaks her fingers.

Wow...only on NSG can you find this much glee and happiness over someone's misfortune.

Wow...only on NSG can you find this much glee and happiness over someone's misfortune.

No one has said theyre happy shes in pain.


We're happy she cant talk. There is a difference.

20 seconds and a lugar.


I win.

WTF is a lugar? Is that some sort of bonding agent? Or did you mean Luger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_P08_pistol)? If you meant the pistol, then you really need to lighten up, as she's not worth it.

WTF is a lugar? Is that some sort of bonding agent? Or did you mean Luger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_P08_pistol)? If you meant the pistol, then you really need to lighten up, as she's not worth it.

I doubt it would do any damage anyway: Her head is harder than granite and her heart is smaller than a bullet. :p

No one has said theyre happy shes in pain.


We're happy she cant talk. There is a difference.

Ever had mouth wired shut? Trust me, it's both misfortune.

Wow...only on NSG can you find this much glee and happiness over someone's misfortune.

I delight in the poetic justice of it.

...and in her misfortune. :D

What? I've never hidden the fact that I believe stupid ought to hurt.

WTF is a lugar? Is that some sort of bonding agent? Or did you mean Luger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_P08_pistol)? If you meant the pistol, then you really need to lighten up, as she's not worth it.

I was "lightened up". I thought the joke involved in such an extreme would be self evident.


I guess I thought wrong.

I don't wish harm even on Coulter, but I have to admit, there's a certain poetic justice to an injury that forces her to shut up for a while. :tongue:

I was "lightened up". I thought the joke involved in such an extreme would be self evident.


I guess I thought wrong.

It's sometimes hard to tell on the internet. Especially in this forum.

Why does this impact on her speaking abilities? She talks out of her ass, remember?

But she needs to suck a tremendous amount of air in through her mouth to succeed at that.

But she needs to suck a tremendous amount of air in through her mouth to succeed at that.

*shudder*


Please please please never refer to Coulter "sucking" anything. Im a visual person and my mind is in the gutter.



That is all.

*shudder*


Please please please never refer to Coulter "sucking" anything. Im a visual person and my mind is in the gutter.



That is all.

Well, people have been known to say that Ann...blows hehe.

Ahh come on. I will need the humor once Bush is gone.

Ann Coulter who?(Yeah, should google it.)

Wow...only on NSG can you find this much glee and happiness over someone's misfortune.

I'm never delighted about another's misfortune. I do, however, appreciate the irony of Karma whenever, wherever and to whomever it happens.

I noticed, looking at the picture with her mouth obliterated, that she has incredibly angry eyes. I remember being that angry after my ex and I split. Do you suppose all this right wing angst is about a man?

Given her archaic views regarding womens rights, it wouldn't surprise me if her jaw was broken by whichever "traditional, value-oriented, christian, conservative" man she happens to be dating now.

She probably thinks she deserved it.

Why does this impact on her speaking abilities? She talks out of her ass, remember?

Only if Jim Carrey taught her how to do it properly.

And on the topic...

Is it wrong if I was hoping Hugo Chavez finally shut the fuck up when I saw the thread title? Mann Coulter having her jaws wired shut for a while is kind of a karmic balance in a way so I can't say it's a bad thing though.

Is it wrong if I was hoping Hugo Chavez finally shut the fuck up when I saw the thread title?

I often hope he will shut the fuck up, so no, I dont think its wrong.

Wow...only on NSG can you find this much glee and happiness over someone's misfortune.

And of course you've never reacted in glee to anyone's misfortune. Come on.

WTF is a lugar? Is that some sort of bonding agent? Or did you mean Luger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_P08_pistol)? If you meant the pistol, then you really need to lighten up, as she's not worth it.Irony is, the Law and Order episode featuring someone trying to shoot her surrogate came on German television last night...

Never really knew who she was, as she has no visibility in the UK. Just watched a video of her on youtube - good grief what an obnoxious idiot she is.

Never really knew who she was, as she has no visibility in the UK. Just watched a video of her on youtube - good grief what an obnoxious idiot she is.

She's about as cuddly as a porcupine dipped in lemon juice.

She's about as cuddly as a porcupine dipped in lemon juice.

...and seemingly as loud as a jumbo jet.

Wow...only on NSG can you find this much glee and happiness over someone's misfortune.

She's Ann Coulter. She deserves what she gets for calling liberals anti-American.

Wow...only on NSG can you find this much glee and happiness over someone's misfortune.
you need to get out more. nsg is restrained in its glee.

Wow...only on NSG can you find this much glee and happiness over someone's misfortune.

Right, NSG has a monopoly on internet cynicism.

She can still blog. Write books, etc. She just came out with a new book.

She can still blog. Write books, etc. She just came out with a new book.

But she cannot do speaking engagements to promote said new book. That's the mildly big deal.

I suppose that we Brits could lend you Melanie Phillips to tide you over.

But she cannot do speaking engagements to promote said new book. That's the mildly big deal.

Doesn't matter, only conservatives buy her books (in droves to drive up sales numbers, like Scientologists buying up all the copies of Battlefield Earth).

No one has said theyre happy shes in pain.
No-one? Then let me be the first: I am happy that she is in pain. She is well deserving of punishment.

No-one? Then let me be the first: I am happy that she is in pain. She is well deserving of punishment.

Booo!

But she cannot do speaking engagements to promote said new book. That's the mildly big deal.

What is Michelle Malkin too busy to sub for her? Isn't she the lead in the "crazy-ass chick" bullpen for the nonsensical right?

Ann Coulter is less of a mouse and more of a cow.

No-one? Then let me be the first: I am happy that she is in pain. She is well deserving of punishment.

HEY! NO FAIR! I said it before you!

Well, arguably. I said she deserves what she gets.

Does that count as "I am happy"?

Ann Coulter is less of a mouse and more of a cow.

Except people actually want to eat cows and drink their milk.

*shudder*


Please please please never refer to Coulter "sucking" anything. Im a visual person and my mind is in the gutter.


You have my heartfelt appology. Scratch that... now I'm picturing that.

You instead have my sympathy.

Yeah, screw the horrible blonde ****! She's such a terrible person, what with her crazy-ass views, demonisation of persons of a certain political stripe, and calls for action against her political opponents. It's a good thing she's the only individual spouting this inane, authoritarian bullshit...

God, I hope her jaw stays wired shut.

Really, it would just make the world a better place.I really think we should keep track of everyone who buys her books.

And then revoke their right to vote.20 seconds and a lugar.

I win.
Oh.

Yeah, screw the horrible blonde ****! She's such a terrible person, what with her crazy-ass views, demonisation of persons of a certain political stripe, and calls for action against her political opponents. It's a good thing she's the only individual spouting this inane, authoritarian bullshit...


Oh.

The difference is, Mann Coulter is famous at least in the United States and has a large following who believe every single screed that she spills. Hence is she is a lot more dangerous and deserving of derision than a relatively anonymous member of a forum that the international world for the most part doesn't give a shit about.

I think I'll borrow one of her books from my public library.

She must have some game, to get such heated responses.

This is sad. I hope her a speedy and healthy recovery.

This is sad. I hope her a speedy and healthy recovery.

What actually happened to her jaw?

What actually happened to her jaw?
IDK all I know is it's wired shut, apparently.

There seems to be some secrecy surrounding the "accident." If she was assaulted, presumably that will come out when charges are laid.

I think I'll borrow one of her books from my public library.

She must have some game, to get such heated responses.
she probably has a webpage that will tell you everything you want to know about her.

she probably has a webpage that will tell you everything you want to know about her.

I've been reading it. It's pretty funny actually.

Doesn't seem to be any mention of the broken jaw there.

I've been reading it. It's pretty funny actually.

Doesn't seem to be any mention of the broken jaw there.
she doesnt seem to be talking about what happened.

not that it matters to me, im not much into celebrity gossip.

she doesnt seem to be talking about what happened.

You'd think she would make a huge fuss if it was some militant leftist who attacked her. Silence suggests either pending legal action ... or an incident embarassing to her. Drunken car-accident, something like that.

not that it matters to me, im not much into celebrity gossip.

A celebrity is pretty much what she is. Professional talking-head. *nod*

I suppose that we Brits could lend you Melanie Phillips to tide you over.
And then force us to keep her by pretending not to be home every time we tried to return her? No way, we're not falling for that one again.
Russia still hasn't returned any of our calls about Ayn Rand, and it's been over 80 years.

The difference is, Mann Coulter is famous at least in the United States and has a large following who believe every single screed that she spills. Hence is she is a lot more dangerous and deserving of derision than a relatively anonymous member of a forum that the international world for the most part doesn't give a shit about.
Ah I see.

It's OK to be misogynistic towards a person, hope for their silencing or even death, and wish harm/restriction on the freedom of their supporters, as long as they're famous?

Good to know.

I'll remember that one, along with the notion that it's OK to be abhorrently sexist towards someone, provided they've put forward positions that prevent female emancipation.

As long as there's no double standards, eh?

Ah I see.

It's OK to be misogynistic towards a person, hope for their silencing or even death, and wish harm/restriction on the freedom of their supporters, as long as they're famous?

Good to know.

Where did you get this crack-smoke idea that people can't stand Mann Coulter because she's a woman?

The Sexism Shield didn't work well for Caribou Barbie Palin, so I don't see why you think it would work on behalf of Miss Coulter.

Especially because people can't stand Ann Coulter because she is Ann Coulter.

Unless you can quote someone on this thread explicitly wishing Ann Coulter was dead, then you're just throwing up a straw man because far as I've seen people have at most expressed a desire for her to physically shut up the way plenty of people wish Hugo Chavez would shut up. And I'm willing to bet you're perfectly fine with wishing Hugo Chavez would shut up.

Nobody has seriously called for her freedom of speech to be specifically revoked. Unlike Miss Coulter who has made it clear that she wishes liberals would shut up or die:

We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors.

Usually the nonsense liberals spout is kind of cute, but in wartime their instinctive idiocy is life-threatening.

Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots, and on the matter of America's self-preservation, the difference is irrelevant.

I'll remember that one, along with the notion that it's OK to be abhorrently sexist towards someone, provided they've put forward positions that prevent female emancipation.

As long as there's no double standards, eh?

Double standard is using Gender Equality as a pretense for defending a Bushevik who has explicitly stated desires to suppress Gender Equality:

I think [women] should be armed but should not [be allowed to] vote. No, they all have to give up their vote, not just, you know, the lady clapping and me. The problem with women voting -- and your Communists will back me up on this -- is that, you know, women have no capacity to understand how money is earned. They have a lot of ideas on how to spend it. And when they take these polls, it's always more money on education, more money on child care, more money on day care.

It would be a much better country if women did not vote. That is simply a fact. In fact, in every presidential election since 1950 - except Goldwater in '64 - the Republican would have won, if only the men had voted.

If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president. It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women.

Take your Fass-grade sanctimony and shove it.

Yeah, screw the horrible blonde ****! She's such a terrible person, what with her crazy-ass views, demonisation of persons of a certain political stripe, and calls for action against her political opponents. It's a good thing she's the only individual spouting this inane, authoritarian bullshit...


Oh.

Ah, and once again Chumbly trolls me for no reason other than to troll me. I might find it flattering if it wasnt so fucking pathetic. And before you pretend like youre not just singling me out Id like to point out you missed the posts that prompted my "luger" joke as well as several other posters making jokes just as hateful as me.

Again, would be cute, if it wasnt so transparent and pitiful.


You know what the difference between me and Coulter is (aside from me being, you know, intellegent)?

Here is a hint. I was joking. Everyone else got it. You didnt.* That isnt my fault. It may make you feel special to pretend like youre morally superior to random people on the internet, but to most of us it just makes you look sad.


*- actually Gun Manufacturers called me on my luger post, and I explicetly said it was a joke. You have no excuse to have missed it other than willfully doing so.

EDIT: In fact, go reread this thread. See that in the context, my posts were clearly jokes. Make note of me directly saying no one is happy she is in pain. Make note of other people (who are not me) saying they are glad shes in pain. Try to put your personal opinion for me as a poster aside when you formulate these conclusions.

Then, man up, admit you were wrong, and give me an apology.

Funny rating precedes links. Rated out of 10, serious content not considered. 1 indicates levity but no actual joke.

2: Anti-Social Darwinism: Ann Coulter's jaw is broken. I don't wish her ill, but isn't the silence sweet. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247562)
0: Knights of Liberty: God, I hope her jaw stays wired shut. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247568)
3: Lunatic Goofballs: Ten minutes and a soldering iron can make it happen. :D (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247586)
1: Ashmoria: the poor thing. and just ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247595)
1: Knights of Liberty: I really think we should keep track of everyone who buys her books. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247597)
4: Sarkhaan: Or five minutes and an arc welder. *nod* (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247599)
0: Knights of Liberty: 20 seconds and a lugar. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247606)
5: Dumb Ideologies: Why does this impact on her speaking abilities? She talks out of her ass, ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247608)
0: Tmutarakhan: Speak for yourself! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247609)
3: Ashmoria: the friend of a friend of mine was completely taken with her book "treason" ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247614)
3: Knights of Liberty: Are you sure he was managing his own life? ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247645)
0: Ashmoria: lol (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247656)
4: Anti-Social Darwinism: I noticed, looking at the picture ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247671)
6: Non Aligned States: If you're not careful however ...*pic* (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247680)
1: Knights of Liberty: Maybe someone punched her in the jaw and thats how it broke. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247683)
5: Intangelon: That reminds me of the Bill Hicks bit about the Rodney King trial ... *snip quote* (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14247997)
4: greed and death: Bush ahd her given a bionic jaw now she can talk twice as fast. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248005)
2: Heikoku 2: Unfortunately, she can still type. Wake me up if she breaks her fingers. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248052)
0: Wilgrove: Wow...only on NSG can you find this much glee and happiness over someone's misfortune. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248148)
0: Knights of Liberty: No one has said theyre happy shes in pain... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248156)
0: Gun Manufacturers: WTF is a lugar? Is that ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248158)
6: Lunatic Goofballs: I doubt it would do any damage anyway: ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248179)
0: Wilgrove: Ever had mouth wired shut? ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248188)
1: Lunatic Goofballs: I delight in the poetic justice of it. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248209)
0: Knights of Liberty: I was "lightened up". (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248218)
0: Poliwanacraca: I don't wish harm even on Coulter ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248225)
0: Gun Manufacturers: It's sometimes hard to tell on the internet. Especially in this forum. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248248)
3: SaintB: But she needs to suck a tremendous amount of air in through her mouth to succeed at that. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248397)
3: Knights of Liberty: *shudder*... never refer to Coulter "sucking"... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248431)
2: Wilgrove: Well, people have been known to say that Ann... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248466)
4: Shofercia: Ahh come on. I will need the humor once Bush is gone. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248479)
0: Western Mercenary Unio: Ann Coulter who?(Yeah, should google it.) (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248536)
2: Anti-Social Darwinism: I'm never delighted about another's misfortune... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248587)
5: Delator: Given her archaic views regarding womens rights, ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248602)
2: Gauthier: Only if Jim Carrey taught her how to do it properly.... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248608)
0: Knights of Liberty: I often hope he will shut the fuck up, so no, I dont think its wrong. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248638)
0: Intangelon: And of course you've never reacted in glee to ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248853)
2: Laerod: Irony is, the Law and Order episode ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248861)
1: Rambhutan: Never really knew who she was ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248867)
6: Lunatic Goofballs: She's about as cuddly as a porcupine dipped in lemon juice. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248895)
2: Rambhutan: ...and seemingly as loud as a jumbo jet. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248917)
0: Heikoku 2: She's Ann Coulter. She deserves what she gets for calling liberals anti-American. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14248934)
1: Ashmoria: you need to get out more. nsg is restrained in its glee. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14249065)
2: Sdaeriji: Right, NSG has a monopoly on internet cynicism. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14249143)
0: Hotwife: She can still blog. Write books, etc. She just came out with a new book. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14249147)
0: Sdaeriji: But she cannot do speaking engagements ... That's the mildly big deal. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14249165)
4: Saerlandia: I suppose that we Brits could lend you Melanie Phillips to tide you over. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14249232)
1: Khadgar: Doesn't matter, only conservatives buy her books ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14249304)
0: Tmutarakhan: No-one? Then let me be the first: ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14249432)
0: DrunkenDove: Booo! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14249451)
3: Intangelon: What is Michelle Malkin too busy to sub for her?... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14250726)
3: Tech-gnosis: Ann Coulter is less of a mouse and more of a cow. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14250735)
0: Heikoku 2: HEY! NO FAIR! I said it before you!... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14250737)
2: Gauthier: Except people actually want to eat cows and drink their milk. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14250794)
3: SaintB: You have my heartfelt appology. Scratch that... now I'm picturing that. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14250961)
0: Chumblywumbly: Yeah, screw the horrible blonde ****! She's such a ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251108)
0: Gauthier: The difference is, Mann Coulter is famous at least ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251114)
1: BunnySaurus Bugsii: I think I'll borrow one of her books from my public library. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251133)
0: Free And Rebel Tigre: This is sad. I hope her a speedy and healthy recovery. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251136)
0: BunnySaurus Bugsii: What actually happened to her jaw? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251151)
0: Free And Rebel Tigre: IDK all I know is it's wired shut, apparently. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251156)
0: BunnySaurus Bugsii: There seems to be some secrecy surrounding the "accident."... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251167)
1: Ashmoria: she probably has a webpage that will tell you everything you want to know about her. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251177)
1: BunnySaurus Bugsii: I've been reading it. It's pretty funny actually. (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251205)
0: Ashmoria: she doesnt seem to be talking about what happened. ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251216)
0: BunnySaurus Bugsii: You'd think she would make a huge fuss if it was some militant leftist ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251238)
7: H N Fiddlebottoms VIII: And then force us to keep her by pretending not to be home ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251378)
0: Chumblywumbly: Ah I see. It's OK to be misogynistic towards ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251485)
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Where did you get this crack-smoke idea that people can't stand Mann Coulter because she's a woman?

The Sexism Shield didn't work well for Caribou Barbie Palin, so I don't see why you think it would work on behalf of Miss Coulter.
I'm not suggesting that "people can't stand Mann Coulter because she's a woman", I'm suggesting that constantly referring to her as "Mann Coulter", questioning her sexuality, vocalising how disgusting you find the prospect of sex with Ms. Coulter is, and other such practices, are incredibly sexist.

EDIT: 'you' as in the hypothetical you. I'm not singling you out, there's plenty guilty of this, in the current thread and others.

As to "Caribou Barbie Palin", I think it's quite clear from Heikoku's previous antics that there's a line between attacking someone who happens to be a woman, and attacking someone (in part) because she's a woman.

Unless you can quote someone on this thread explicitly wishing Ann Coulter was dead...
Ann Coulter's words that you quoted are of the same, hyper-exaggerated, polarised, nonsense that's been posted in this thread. I don't think KoL genuinely wants to execute Coulter, but the fact that his attacks on her amount to a (joking) 'she should be killed' merely illustrate his (and others') poor argumentation skills.

Double standard is using Gender Equality as a pretense for defending a Bushevik who has explicitly stated desires to suppress Gender Equality
I'm defending her views by not wishing to get involved in a misogynistic-fest of sexist abuse? And here's me thinking you had at least some notion of fallacies with all your 'strawman' talk.

I think Ann Coulter's professed views are fucking terrible, and I'm shocked that a (seemingly) intelligent women could hold such ideas in a society that still hasn't achieved equality between the sexes. But I'm not going to stoop down to the level of calling her a man to get my point across.

If you think a refusal to engage with sexist abuse is sanctimonious, my opinion of you (and many other folks in this thread) just dropped.



Ah, and once again Chumbly trolls me for no reason other than to troll me. I might find it flattering if it wasnt so fucking pathetic. And before you pretend like youre not just singling me out Id like to point out you missed the posts that prompted my "luger" joke as well as several other posters making jokes just as hateful as me.
You're simply one of the best proponents of simplistic, polarised 'debate' on this forum, and a particularly good example of the unneeded abuse spouted at Coulter every time her name is mentioned on here.

Here is a hint. I was joking. Everyone else got it. You didnt.* That isnt my fault. It may make you feel special to pretend like youre morally superior to random people on the internet, but to most of us it just makes you look sad.
I realise it's a joke. It's just an incredibly poor one; and one that is repeated so often. The only one repeated more is 'Mann Coulter'. Both serve no purpose, and do nothing to address the real problems with Coulter.

I mean, you wouldn't object to me calling Michelle Obama a ni**er whore who should be lynched, now would you? After all, it's only a joke...

I'm not suggesting that "people can't stand Mann Coulter because she's a woman", I'm suggesting that constantly referring to her as "Mann Coulter", questioning her sexuality, vocalising how disgusting you find the prospect of sex with Ms. Coulter is, and other such practices, are incredibly sexist.

EDIT: 'you' as in the hypothetical you. I'm not singling you out, there's plenty guilty of this, in the current thread and others.

I'm not about to speak for the opinion and mindset of others since I don't know what they are.

As for myself, I refer to her as Mann Coulter because she is quite willing to cut off the prominence and fortune she has reached to other women in addition to denying them the equality that clearly she has benefitted from, making her no different than mysogynistic men in positions of authority. If anything Ann Coulter is the harsh, vitriolic real life counterpart of Serena Joy from The Handmaid's Tale except thankfully this country has not been turned into a patriarchal theocratic junta that bites her in the ass.

And I wouldn't find anyone honestly holding such a font of repugnant beliefs attractive at all.

To suggest that Ann Coulter should be shielded from the harsh atmosphere of the game she's proven more than willing to play time and time again simply because she's biologically a woman and thus it would supposedly be sexist is in itself chauvinistic.

As to "Caribou Barbie Palin", I think it's quite clear from Heikoku's previous antics that there's a line between attacking someone who happens to be a woman, and attacking someone (in part) because she's a woman.

I'm not Heikoku. Sarah Palin is referred to mockingly as Caribou Barbie because she was precisely picked to attract women towards the Republican Party as a woman, when her own viewpoints have in fact been oriented towards more "traditional" values where women are subservient to men. Not to mention when her escapades in Alaska were brought to light she had the galls to imply that the revelations were motivated by sexism.

I'm defending her views by not wishing to get involved in a misogynistic-fest of sexist abuse? And here's me thinking you had at least some notion of fallacies with all your 'strawman' talk.

You're suggesting that Ann Coulter should be exempted from the level of abuse that she has been eager to heap onto others. There's that old proverb about playing with fire, laying down with the dogs, so on and so forth.

I think Ann Coulter's professed views are fucking terrible, and I'm shocked that a (seemingly) intelligent women could hold such ideas in a society that still hasn't achieved equality between the sexes. But I'm not going to stoop down to the level of calling her a man to get my point across.

If it's sexist to consider a woman less than a man, why is it also sexist to consider her the equal of a man in terms of belligerent political viewpoints?

If you think a refusal to engage with sexist abuse is sanctimonious, my opinion of you (and many other folks in this thread) just dropped.

To suggest that levelling similar levels of abuse towards Ann Coulter that she has been free to dish on just about anyone she disagrees with is sexist is again not only chauvinistic but an example of the double standard that she and Sarah Palin has tried to benefit from and deny to others.

I mean, you wouldn't object to me calling Michelle Obama a ni**er whore who should be lynched, now would you? After all, it's only a joke...

Well, aside from the fact that you're trying to compare Michelle Obama to Ann Coulter which is a huge Straw Man via Reductio Ad Absurdum and forum rules I personally wouldn't object. It would just be documented words I can use to say you're a moron amongst other choice terms.

Funny rating precedes links. Rated out of 10, serious content not considered. 1 indicates levity but no actual joke.

-snip-

If I knew I was being rated, I would have talked about the teeth in her vagina. :p

If I knew I was being rated, I would have talked about the teeth in her vagina. :p

What about the ones in her mouth?

http://www.toyarchive.com/Aliens/Toys/OriginalDoll1c.jpg

Funny rating precedes links. Rated out of 10, serious content not considered. 1 indicates levity but no actual joke.
7: H N Fiddlebottoms VIII: And then force us to keep her by pretending not to be home ... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14251378)
The highest rating! Game over, losers. I have all the funny. Compare your lives to mine, and then kill yourselves.

I'm not Heikoku. Sarah Palin is referred to mockingly as Caribou Barbie because she was precisely picked to attract women towards the Republican Party as a woman, when her own viewpoints have in fact been oriented towards more "traditional" values where women are subservient to men. Not to mention when her escapades in Alaska were brought to light she had the galls to imply that the revelations were motivated by sexism.

Which is the same reason I said those things about both Hillary and Palin, who used their vaginas as props at the drop of a hat to get elected.

Now can we drop it about me?

The highest rating! Game over, losers. I have all the funny. Compare your lives to mine, and then kill yourselves.

That's not how it works. Haven't you ever seen 'Single White Female'? First we compare ourselves to you, then we kill you and take your place. :)

What about the ones in her mouth?

http://www.toyarchive.com/Aliens/Toys/OriginalDoll1c.jpg

That's not her mouth! :eek:

To suggest that Ann Coulter should be shielded from the harsh atmosphere of the game she's proven more than willing to play time and time again simply because she's biologically a woman and thus it would supposedly be sexist is in itself chauvinistic.
'Criticising sexist comments about a women who advances a sexist point of view is itself sexist.'

My word...

If "the game she's proven more than willing to play" is the 'game' of fostering a culture of patriarchal dominance, I think Coulter should be 'shielded'. What good does firing sexist abuse towards someone of Coulter's ilk do? And why on Earth is it a moral act?

You're suggesting that Ann Coulter should be exempted from the level of abuse that she has been eager to heap onto others.
Yes, of course she should.

You shouldn't be racist towards a racist, bully a bully, or any other sort of eye-for-an-eye solutions; especially when you're dealing with theoretical differences.

If it's sexist to consider a woman less than a man, why is it also sexist to consider her the equal of a man in terms of belligerent political viewpoints?
Calling someone, pejoratively, a 'man' or a 'women', as if that was that their features or personality do not 'live up' to their gender, is to me a clear-cut sexist insult.

To suggest that levelling similar levels of abuse towards Ann Coulter that she has been free to dish on just about anyone she disagrees with is sexist is again not only chauvinistic but an example of the double standard that she and Sarah Palin has tried to benefit from and deny to others.
Once again, you're back on the tripe of 'she's sexist, so I can be sexist'.

Which, it seems, is on the same level of debate as, 'Waaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! She started it!".

Well, aside from the fact that you're trying to compare Michelle Obama to Ann Coulter which is a huge Straw Man via Reductio Ad Absurdum and forum rules...
Let's leave your doubtful knowledge of fallacies to one side and concentrate on the point I was making:

Unwarranted abusive jokes towards an individual, disconnected from any real engagement with issues brought up by said individual, do not promote meaningful discourse.

What actually happened to her jaw?

Oh, that's easy. She broke her jaw sucking on satan's... lollipop.

What, you expected me to post something moddable? For shame!

That's not her mouth! :eek:

Oh, how we wish you were correct....

What about the ones in her mouth?

http://www.toyarchive.com/Aliens/Toys/OriginalDoll1c.jpg

No, no. See, that's her v-

That's not her mouth! :eek:

Damn you!

You're simply one of the best proponents of simplistic, polarised 'debate' on this forum, and a particularly good example of the unneeded abuse spouted at Coulter every time her name is mentioned on here.


And youre simply one of the best examples of the moral-superiority-boarding-on-a-God-complex posters here, but I dont follow you around and flamebait you, do I?


On this thread, several people said or made the exact same jokes (or worse jokes) than I did. One wasnt even joking. Yet, you only quoted me. So either you are

A) Simply singling me out (as you always do) to annoy me or provoke a reaction, which would be trolling
B) Infatuated with me
C) Totally missing every other post made, in which case I question your reading comprehension

Which is it?

I realise it's a joke. It's just an incredibly poor one; and one that is repeated so often. The only one repeated more is 'Mann Coulter'. Both serve no purpose, and do nothing to address the real problems with Coulter.


The kicker is, I dont care how funny you think my jokes are. And in all honosty, if your taking my jokes seriously just to try and prove that Im somehow inferior to you, you simply just look foolish.

That, and a strong arguement for trolling can be made.


I mean, you wouldn't object to me calling Michelle Obama a ni**er whore who should be lynched, now would you? After all, it's only a joke...

What an epic strawman. Oh, and buddy, if you really think us saying Coulter should stfu is the same as calling a black girl a ****** whore who should be lynched, youre fucking pathetic and dont understand...well, anything about race relations, history, or the gravity of said comment.

And thats not something I can help you with.

'Criticising sexist comments about a women who advances a sexist point of view is itself sexist.'

My word...

If "the game she's proven more than willing to play" is the 'game' of fostering a culture of patriarchal dominance, I think Coulter should be 'shielded'. What good does firing sexist abuse towards someone of Coulter's ilk do? And why on Earth is it a moral act?


Yes, of course she should.

You shouldn't be racist towards a racist, bully a bully, or any other sort of eye-for-an-eye solutions; especially when you're dealing with theoretical differences.


Calling someone, pejoratively, a 'man' or a 'women', as if that was that their features or personality do not 'live up' to their gender, is to me a clear-cut sexist insult.


Once again, you're back on the tripe of 'she's sexist, so I can be sexist'.

Which, it seems, is on the same level of debate as, 'Waaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! She started it!".


Let's leave your doubtful knowledge of fallacies to one side and concentrate on the point I was making:

Unwarranted abusive jokes towards an individual, disconnected from any real engagement with issues brought up by said individual, do not promote meaningful discourse.

No one is being sexist. Critizing women who say stupid shit is not sexist. Crying "sexist" on a regular basis, especially in the manner you do it, is a cop out.


Not that I expect much different from you.

No one is being sexist. Critizing women who say stupid shit is not sexist.
It is if the criticising takes the form of sexist comments; comments deliberately attempting to derogatoryly question the gender of said women.

All this slapping on the back, congratulating each other over another 'Coulter's vagina has teeth' comment... you don't find that at all suspect? You don't think that unwaveringly calling the woman 'Mann Coulter' is the slightest bit sexist?

<snip>
I'm flattered that you think I have some sort of interest you, but I only wish to see NS:G free from inane, nonsensical views as much as possible.

You appear to post such things often, and in doing so, I often point them out (this being a debate forum and all...).

If you feel you've been treated unfairly, there are the proper channels.

That's not her mouth! :eek:

..Isn't it?

I'm flattered that you think I have some sort of interest you, but I only wish to see NS:G free from inane, nonsensical views as much as possible.

You appear to post such things often, and in doing so, I often point them out (this being a debate forum and all...).

If you feel you've been treated unfairly, there are the proper channels.



Translation: I am smarter and superior to you.

You have yet to explain why you always single me out. You just keep coping out the same answer of how I annoy you. Whatever helps you sleep at night. You seem like a smart bloke, I was hoping youd get the picture and stop trolling me.

Oh well. Guess I wasted my time. Doing what I should have done long ago.

/Ignore.


EDIT- And for the record, character assassination and saying I spout "violent authoritarian bullshit" isnt really debating. Its mud slinging. If you really were debating, you may have addressed why what I said was somehow wrong. Well, you did try actually, by comparing it to saying we should linch a ****** whore. Which didnt really win you a debate, just made you look foolish and out of touch.

But hey, you know, whatever validates you.

It is if the criticising takes the form of sexist comments; comments deliberately attempting to derogatoryly question the gender of said women.

All this slapping on the back, congratulating each other over another 'Coulter's vagina has teeth' comment... you don't find that at all suspect? You don't think that unwaveringly calling the woman 'Mann Coulter' is the slightest bit sexist?


I'm flattered that you think I have some sort of interest you, but I only wish to see NS:G free from inane, nonsensical views as much as possible.

You appear to post such things often, and in doing so, I often point them out (this being a debate forum and all...).

If you feel you've been treated unfairly, there are the proper channels.

Could you explain something to me? In all your discussion, are trying to say that Coulter should be protected from the consequences of her comments because she's a woman? Are saying that a woman who makes anti-woman statements should not have to defend those statements because she's a woman?

Are you saying, basically, that any woman can say anything she wants, regardless of how inane and, because she's a woman, she can get away with it?

Why don't we substitute the word man for the word woman, or the compound word African-American, or the word gay. Let's see how it plays then.

You know if it is the case that a woman needs no defense except her gender in your world, as a woman myself, I think I could live there. I could get away with murder and just plead the woman card. Oh, wait, I'm old, fat and gray-haired - wrong kind of woman.

Could you explain something to me? In all your discussion, are trying to say that Coulter should be protected from the consequences of her comments because she's a woman? Are saying that a woman who makes anti-woman statements should not have to defend those statements because she's a woman?

Are you saying, basically, that any woman can say anything she wants, regardless of how inane and, because she's a woman, she can get away with it?

Why don't we substitute the word man for the word woman, or the compound word African-American, or the word gay. Let's see how it plays then.

You know, as a woman myself, I think I could live in your world. I could get away with murder and just plead the woman card.

Dont question Chumbly's insane statements or poor logic. Hes morally superior to you.

Oh, wait, I'm old, fat and gray-haired - wrong kind of woman.

And Coulter is the right kind of woman?


EDIT- If anyone laughs at my unintentional pun theyre dead.

And Coulter is the right kind of woman?

*laughs hysterically*

*laughs hysterically*

Id threaten to kill you, but I might get taken seriously and told Im spouting "violent authoritarian bullshit".

Dont question Chumbly's insane statements or poor logic. Hes morally superior to you.



And Coulter is the right kind of woman?



EDIT- If anyone laughs at my unintentional pun theyre dead.

Which unintentional pun should I not laugh at? *Snickers*

Id threaten to kill you, but I might get taken seriously and told Im spouting "violent authoritarian bullshit".

*threatens to kill KoL if he doesn't follow through on his threat*

I'll miss the comedy. But yeah, it's pretty humorously ironic.

Ann Coulter's jaw is broken. I don't wish her ill, but isn't the silence sweet.

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/11/25/hear-this-ann-coulters-jaw-wired-shut/?icid=200100397x1214123968x1200844425

I don't see how this is going to silence her. She always just lies through her teeth anyway.

Ever had mouth wired shut? Trust me, it's both misfortune.

No, I feel a bit of joy that she is in this predicament. I also think that if you were to go to people on the street they would have the same reaction there. 1. YES!!!!! 2. No she's a great American 3. No, that's just mean. Karma is a bitch, and when you throw that much negative energy out into the world you get it back somehow.

Translation: I am smarter and superior to you.
In some ways, yes, I believe I am.

I believe my method of debate is superior to yours, that I try to steer clear of hasty generalisations you often spout, do not demonise those who I politically oppose as you often do, and am able to engage in debate with someone without resorting to the Ignore Cannon.

That doesn't make me some haughty elitist, as you're bluntly and rather unsuccessfully attempting to portray me, just that I feel you often have the wrong take on a number of important issues. Nor does it mean I'm in some way unfairly 'singling you out'. I often reply to Soheran's philosophical arguments, because I disagree with him on a number of important philosophical issues; that doesn't mean that I'm "trolling" him.

You have yet to explain why you always single me out.
You've yet to show that I do.

Moreover, I've already explained (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14253411#post14253411), in the very post you quoted, why I often criticise your views, that "[y]ou appear to post such things often, and in doing so, I often point them out".

You're very vocal on this forum, and you're one of the left-leaning US posters who often posts what I believe to be rather uninformed, unhelpful comments. If you're unhappy that people are challenging your views, then I don't see what business you have here on a debate forum.

If you really were debating, you may have addressed why what I said was somehow wrong.
Once again kiddies, reading (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14252422&postcount=80) helps (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14253411&postcount=85).



Could you explain something to me? In all your discussion, are trying to say that Coulter should be protected from the consequences of her comments because she's a woman?
Obviously not.

Quite simply, I'm saying that, no matter your gender, you shouldn't be subject to sexist abuse.

Furthermore, you shouldn't be subject to sexist abuse, even if you hold positions that are in themselves sexist.

Coulter spouts a lot of terrible things, holds some outstandingly sexist positions; but I don't see why she should thus be subject to sexist abuse. Neither, by the way, do I think jokes here in the UK about Anne Widdecombe being fat and ugly serve any purpose. Both women hold abhorrent positions. Why should we resort to attacks sheltered from their positions?

Clear now?

In some ways, yes, I believe I am.

I believe my method of debate is superior to yours, that I try to steer clear of hasty generalisations you often spout, do not demonise those who I politically oppose as you often do, and am able to engage in debate with someone without resorting to the Ignore Cannon.

That doesn't make me some haughty elitist, as you're bluntly and rather unsuccessfully attempting to portray me, just that I feel you often have the wrong take on a number of important issues. Nor does it mean I'm in some way unfairly 'singling you out'. I often reply to Soheran's philosophical arguments, because I disagree with him on a number of important philosophical issues; that doesn't mean that I'm "trolling" him.


You've yet to show that I do.

Moreover, I've already explained (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?p=14253411#post14253411), in the very post you quoted, why I often criticise your views, that "[y]ou appear to post such things often, and in doing so, I often point them out".

You're very vocal on this forum, and you're one of the left-leaning US posters who often posts what I believe to be rather uninformed, unhelpful comments. If you're unhappy that people are challenging your views, then I don't see what business you have here on a debate forum.


Once again kiddies, reading (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14252422&postcount=80) helps (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14253411&postcount=85).




Obviously not.

Quite simply, I'm saying that, no matter your gender, you shouldn't be subject to sexist abuse.

Furthermore, you shouldn't be subject to sexist abuse, even if you hold positions that are in themselves sexist.

Coulter spouts a lot of terrible things, holds some outstandingly sexist positions; but I don't see why she should thus be subject to sexist abuse. Neither, by the way, do I think jokes here in the UK about Anne Widdecombe being fat and ugly serve any purpose. Both women hold abhorrent positions. Why should we resort to attacks sheltered from their positions?

Clear now?

Then in past posts you weren't clear, because I got the distinct impression that you considered any criticism of Coulter and her positions to be sexist and abusive. In any case, if she doesn't exempt women from her vitriol then I see no reason why she and her companion icons of conservative tokenism should be exempt from like vitriol. In every confrontation there are, or should be, rules of engagement, if one side is exempt from the rules and the other is held to the rules, it doesn't work. Either both sides must hold to the rules or neither can be held to the rules. You have effectively exempted Coulter from the rules of engagement while holding the rest of us to those rules.

Then in past posts you weren't clear, because I got the distinct impression that you considered any criticism of Coulter and her positions to be sexist and abusive.
That's most certainly not my position, and I struggle to see how I've given such an impression. But if that's the case, you should know that I am perfectly happy to rip into Coulter and her ilk. I would, and indeed have in this thread and others, attacked Coulter's positions on female emancipation and many other issues.

In any case, if she doesn't exempt women from her vitriol then I see no reason why she and her companion icons of conservative tokenism should be exempt from like vitriol.
Because, if such vitriol is sexist, then we are being sexist, and I do not see any gain by rabbiting the mistakes of others.

In every confrontation there are, or should be, rules of engagement, if one side is exempt from the rules and the other is held to the rules, it doesn't work.
Then you'd agree with me that one should not be sexist towards someone who you are criticising (in part) for being sexist?

That's most certainly not my position, and I struggle to see how I've given such an impression. But if that's the case, you should know that I am perfectly happy to rip into Coulter and her ilk. I would, and indeed have in this thread and others, attacked Coulter's positions on female emancipation and many other issues.


Because, if such vitriol is sexist, then we are being sexist, and I do not see any gain by rabbiting the mistakes of others.


Then you'd agree with me that one should not be sexist towards someone who you are criticising (in part) for being sexist?

Actually, no. Where she, and her ilk, are concerned, I'm more than happy to give them a dose of their own. Where they're concerned, the gloves are off.

I've worked and marched for women's rights probably since you were still in diapers. I've listened to the bs of the conservatives' token women that whole time - if they're going to behave like "illogical, emotional women", I'm going to call them on it. She's a hypocrite and this is a valid method for demonstrating it.

Actually, no. Where she, and her ilk, are concerned, I'm more than happy to give them a dose of their own. Where they're concerned, the gloves are off.
To me that's a justification of sexist behaviour, no matter your feminist credentials.

She's a hypocrite and this is a valid method for demonstrating it.
As it is a method for demonstrating your hypocrisy; acting in a sexist manor while criticising sexism.

If you're unable to criticise an opponent without resorting to the bigoted tactics they themselves use, then perhaps you need to have a good think about what it is you're criticising.

To me that's a justification of sexist behaviour, no matter your feminist credentials.


As it is a method for demonstrating your hypocrisy.

Chumbly, you're talking to a person who believes that only people who actually agree to the Geneva Convention have a right to expect the treatment mandated by that convention.

If those hyper-conservative, pseudo-feminist, morally ambiguous "women" want to fight dirty, I will. I'm not here to be honorable, I'm here to whup their sorry asses and stand, crowing, over their humiliated bodies.

And don't tell me I'm "lowering myself to their level." I've always thought "being above that sort of behavior" was just another way of establishing an excuse for losing.

Wars aren't won by honorable behavior. Women didn't get the vote by acting like ladies. African-Americans aren't getting equality by saying "yes, Massah." And we aren't going to get rid of the female versions of Uncle Tom by being nice to them.

Chumbly, you're talking to a person who believes that only people who actually agree to the Geneva Convention have a right to expect the treatment mandated by that convention... I've always thought "being above that sort of behavior" was just another way of establishing an excuse for losing.
Herein lies our difference.

Women didn't get the vote by acting like ladies.
They didn't gain it by acting in a sexist manner towards men.

African-Americans aren't getting equality by saying "yes, Massah."
They aren't going to get it through racism and enslaving white people.

EDIT: I suppose our difference perhaps is down to the way I view one's character. If sexism is a bad thing, and I believe emphatically that it is, then one's character, never mind one's cause, is never helped by sexist acts/behaviour. And I simply see no good reason to act in a sexist manner towards those who are sexist, or to act in a racist manner towards those who are racist, etc.

The highest rating! Game over, losers. I have all the funny. Compare your lives to mine, and then kill yourselves.

It was the Ayn Rand reference which did it for me. :)

Oh, that's easy. She broke her jaw sucking on satan's... lollipop.

What, you expected me to post something moddable? For shame!



Oh, how we wish you were correct....

..Isn't it?

It's a part of her, but it's a bit further south... :eek:

Chumbly, you're talking to a person who believes that only people who actually agree to the Geneva Convention have a right to expect the treatment mandated by that convention.

Were you thinking of a signed declaration by each individual?

If so, opt-out or opt-in? That is, in absence of any declaration, are they subject to the GC, or not?

Perhaps you are thinking "judge them by their actions" in which case who is the arbiter of whether a person's actions complied with the GC ? A military court? With, or without, evidence gained by torture?

The poor woman, that's a shame. From personal experience, I can tell you, it's a pain in the ass to have your jaw wired shut. It just aches all the damn time, too, and makes your head hurt. It's almost worse than breaking your collarbone.

I was planning on getting her new book on the 1st, it'll give me something to read when I'm at work overnight.

The poor woman, that's a shame. From personal experience, I can tell you, it's a pain in the ass to have your jaw wired shut. It just aches all the damn time, too, and makes your head hurt. It's almost worse than breaking your collarbone.

I was planning on getting her new book on the 1st, it'll give me something to read when I'm at work overnight.

Your sarcasm is way, way too subtle...

I...wasn't being sarcastic, I meant what I said.

See, that's how subtle it is, even I was unaware of it.

If you're serious: PLEASE don't buy her book. That would put money in her pocket.

Herein lies our difference.


They didn't gain it by acting in a sexist manner towards men.


They aren't going to get it through racism and enslaving white people.

EDIT: I suppose our difference perhaps is down to the way I view one's character. If sexism is a bad thing, and I believe emphatically that it is, then one's character, never mind one's cause, is never helped by sexist acts/behaviour. And I simply see no good reason to act in a sexist manner towards those who are sexist, or to act in a racist manner towards those who are racist, etc.

See, this is, like the Geneva Convention, one of those laws that can only be enforced by other people following it.

If all countries follow the GC, than they all benefit from its protections. If one doesn't, then it shouldn't. Otherwise the smartest thing for a country to do is to declare war only on countries that follow the GC but not follow it themselves. Countries that do follow the convention anyway would die out fairly quickly from all these wars and so would the GC.

So, why not call her Mann Coulter? Why not imply her vagina has teeth? If it didn't work we wouldn't do it, so since we are doing it not doing it would be giving her a free pass to spread bile. You don't deserve respect if you don't respect other people, you know.

See, this is, like the Geneva Convention, one of those laws that can only be enforced by other people following it.

If all countries follow the GC, than they all benefit from its protections. If one doesn't, then it shouldn't. Otherwise the smartest thing for a country to do is to declare war only on countries that follow the GC but not follow it themselves. Countries that do follow the convention anyway would die out fairly quickly from all these wars and so would the GC.

So, why not call her Mann Coulter? Why not imply her vagina has teeth? If it didn't work we wouldn't do it, so since we are doing it not doing it would be giving her a free pass to spread bile. You don't deserve respect if you don't respect other people, you know.
work?

how does it work?

chumbly is right. its sexist. if you cant see that, maybe you need to think it through again.

why should criticism of a woman pundit and writer be of how she looks and of her sexuality instead of the quality of her ideas and writing?

And then revoke their right to vote.

Let's revoke yours then too.

I'm not defending Anne Coulter, but I hope your joking about the right to vote bit.

Let's revoke yours then too.

I'm not defending Anne Coulter, but I hope your joking about the right to vote bit.

:rolleyes:

work?

how does it work?


It makes her look stupid. Which is the point.

Theoretically, it could backfire and make our side look like dicks, but since we're still doing it it apparently hasn't.



chumbly is right. its sexist. if you cant see that, maybe you need to think it through again.


Oh, of course it's sexist. I don't care.



why should criticism of a woman pundit and writer be of how she looks and of her sexuality instead of the quality of her ideas and writing?

Because an honest criticism gives her more credibility than she deserves.

Karma

It makes her look stupid. Which is the point.

Theoretically, it could backfire and make our side look like dicks, but since we're still doing it it apparently hasn't.


Oh, of course it's sexist. I don't care.



Because an honest criticism gives her more credibility than she deserves.
oh ok as long as you understand that its sexist.

Karma

too true

what a shame, maybe if we paid them enough they would replace the wires with something more permanent

with such witty intellectual comments as "If democracts had any brains they'd be republicans" I'm sure she is a voice of sanguine reason we can safely live without

Karma

too true

what a shame, maybe if we paid them enough they would replace the wires with something more permanent

with such witty intellectual comments as "If democracts had any brains they'd be republicans" I'm sure she is a voice of sanguine reason we can safely live without

The only true karma that could be inflicted on Ann Coulter would be to give her exactly what she wants, a perpetual Evangelical Republican junta where women amongst other non-WASP Male demographics are marginalized and have basic Constitutional rights stripped from them in a manner akin to Serene Joy from The Handmaid's Tale.

But to do that would involve fucking over the country as a whole, and not even watching Coulter squirm in the bed of ignorance and hatred she made would be worth such a price.

The only true karma that could be inflicted on Ann Coulter would be to give her exactly what she wants, a perpetual Evangelical Republican junta where women amongst other non-WASP Male demographics are marginalized and have basic Constitutional rights stripped from them in a manner akin to Serene Joy from The Handmaid's Tale.

But to do that would involve fucking over the country as a whole, and not even watching Coulter squirm in the bed of ignorance and hatred she made would be worth such a price.

I dont think Coulter would even squirm under such a regime.