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Yup, I couldn't believe it either. It just seems so ridiculous. :eek2:

Associated Press Writer= LOS ANGELES (AP) - An Oregon man who was fatally shot as he wielded samurai swords and tried to attack guests at a landmark Scientology building had been involved in "prior incidents" with the church, police said Monday.

Mario Majorski, 48, was shot once by a security guard as he tried to use the swords to attack guests at the Scientology Celebrity Centre in Hollywood on Sunday, Detective Wendi Berndt said.

Berndt said that the Scientology church and security guards were already familiar with Majorski, and that he had been associated with the church in the "distant past." She did not elaborate on the earlier dealings.

"The security people were aware of him through some prior incidents," Berndt said.

The shooting will be reviewed by the district attorney's office, but police were treating the killing as justifiable.

"The security guard had to take action to prevent the deceased from killing or maiming people on the premises," Berndt said.

Security surveillance tape showed Majorski arrived around noon in a red convertible, then approached the guards with a sword in each hand before he was shot, Berndt said. She said the tape would not be released to the public because it was too graphic. No other weapons were found in the car, which Berndt said she thought was a rental.

Majorski was pronounced dead at Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center.

Public records show he had been associated with a string of addresses in Los Angeles County and in Oregon over the last two decades. He filed for bankruptcy in 2000.

Messages left at a Scientology media line were not returned Monday.

The Celebrity Centre is a turreted, castle-like landmark in Hollywood that serves as "a home for the artist, a place where he can come and learn, attend seminars, meet other artists and even perform at our many showcases and events," according to the Centre's Web site.

The Church of Scientology was established in 1945 by science fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard and claims 10 million members around the world. It likes to cultivate celebrity followers, and among its more famed acolytes are Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/8076650

I wonder if the guy was a disgruntled ex-member that Scientology drove to insanity.

But the fact that he had samurai swords doesn't make him a samurai.

I wonder if the guy was a disgruntled ex-member that Scientology drove to insanity.

But the fact that he had samurai swords doesn't make him a samurai.

Sorry, I was trying to shorten the title. But yeah, I guess not.

He was clearly infested with excessive body Thetans

A guy with katanas storming a Scientology building.

Ladies and gentlemen, clearly someone (or maybe even Anonymous if their attention span is around that part of the seasonal cycle again) is sending a message to Der Couch Hopper.

Drat.

"Don't bring a sword to a gunfight"

I wonder if the guy was a disgruntled ex-member that Scientology drove to insanity.

But the fact that he had samurai swords doesn't make him a samurai.

he was a National Kendo champion in 85 though.

"Don't bring a sword to a gunfight"

"Swords don't run out of ammo."

Am I the only one who thought that A. that was awesome and B. wonder if he was an Anon?

Am I the only one who thought that A. that was awesome and B. wonder if he was an Anon?

And if the guy had somehow managed to even wound Tom Cruise you know Anon would have turned that into a "Revenge of the Samurai" meme.

Still, celebrating the death of someone especially mentally disturbed? Not so awesome.

A jedi would have fucked them up. *nod*

The article says he was shot as he attempted to attack guests, or implies so, but later states he was shot by guards as he approached them with swords in each hand. There needs to be more information, or preferably, video footage.

And if the guy had somehow managed to even wound Tom Cruise you know Anon would have turned that into a "Revenge of the Samurai" meme.

Still, celebrating the death of someone especially mentally disturbed? Not so awesome.

I'm just picturing someone dressed as a samurai with two samurai swords, yelling stuff and swinging the swords around. Good times....

This sounds like it needs to be a movie, except with less death of the insane man.

This sounds like it needs to be a movie, except with less death of the insane man.

It would never happen, Scientology has a crack team of lawyers, and would drive the production company and everyone who worked on the film to bankruptcy.

How else do you think they were able to avoid lawsuits on the many deaths that occur on their properties?

I wonder if the guy was a disgruntled ex-member that Scientology drove to insanity.

But the fact that he had samurai swords doesn't make him a samurai.
Or by Tom Cruise.
The Last Samurai, indeed.

"Don't bring a sword to a gunfight"
My first thought.
"Swords don't run out of ammo."
Then have it with you once you run out of bullets.

I'm just picturing someone dressed as a samurai with two samurai swords, yelling stuff and swinging the swords around. Good times....

For extra credit, picture John Belushi as the samurai. :D

For extra credit, picture John Belushi as the samurai. :D

See, this is why you're the master. I bow to your expertise.

Am I the only one who thought that A. that was awesome and B. wonder if he was an Anon?Option B.

But too much fail to qualify for awesomeness.

Don't bring a sword to a gunfight.

They need to release the security video, at leas to authorities... Maybe it doesn't exist!

They need to release the security video, at leas to authorities... Maybe it doesn't exist!

It's there alright, right there with Xenu's intergalactic DC-47. :p

Fiver sez the swords were fake.

Did obese Body Thetans have to pay double for extra seats on the DC-47?

This sounds like it needs to be a movie, except with less death of the insane man.

^ this. Man, people who wield samurai swords in modern times are crazy. A guy in NZ killed two people a few years back.

We need to ban swords. They're only purpose is to kill. Ban sowrds and crime stops.

We need to ban swords. They're only purpose is to kill. Ban sowrds and crime stops.

Then we shall fight with forks and spoons. VIOLENCE NUMMY NUMMY VIOLENCE!!! :):tongue:

Then we shall fight with forks and spoons. VIOLENCE NUMMY NUMMY VIOLENCE!!! :):tongue:

If it could be possiblely used for a violent act it must be banned.

Moral of story: cheap replicas of samurai swords won't deflect bullets like the real thing *nods*

Well, wading knee-deep into the Anon WhyWeProtest forums seems to indicate the guy was a former Scientologist, and that there's some serious bullshit going on. The Church claims the guy left 15 years ago; Anon dug up stuff indicating he was involved as recently as 2004 and filed for bankruptcy at least twice, along with a scattering of other legal woes. Regarding the actual attack, he never got anywhere close enough to the complex to attack anybody before he was gunned down.

It'll be interesting to see what comes out of this, if anything.

Somehow I think we are not getting the whole story. This is after all the Church of Scientology we are talking about.

Well, wading knee-deep into the Anon WhyWeProtest forums seems to indicate the guy was a former Scientologist, and that there's some serious bullshit going on. The Church claims the guy left 15 years ago; Anon dug up stuff indicating he was involved as recently as 2004 and filed for bankruptcy at least twice, along with a scattering of other legal woes. Regarding the actual attack, he never got anywhere close enough to the complex to attack anybody before he was gunned down.

It'll be interesting to see what comes out of this, if anything.

Five bucks says that Scientology drained his bank account
Five more bucks also says that nothing will come out of it due to Scientology legal team.

Five bucks says that Scientology drained his bank account
Five more bucks also says that nothing will come out of it due to Scientology legal team.
I'll add that I bet the guy needed psychiatric treatment and hadn't been getting any, thus further leading to the wannabe-samurai attack.

Dunno about nothing coming from it though. This is the first major "Suspicious death tangentially related to Scientology" incident since Anonymous started their campaign at the beginning of this year. Between the Anon efforts, and the publicity because it was the Celebrity Center, there might be just enough public interest in the story now to keep the media's teeth in it, and thus maybe the police due to that attention.

If it could be possiblely used for a violent act it must be banned.

Humans can use nearly anything for violent purposes if the need is great enough.

If a rabid beast were combing at me and all I had were a towel, a bar of soap, a toothbrush and a butter knife I'd certainly try to use those for self defense as best I can.

Besides like many others you are attacking the symptom not the cause.

You should research the cause in order to determine the proper solution.

It'll be interesting to see what comes out of this, if anything.

CoS heads rot jail? *hopes*

Humans can use nearly anything for violent purposes if the need is great enough.

If a rabid beast were combing at me and all I had were a towel, a bar of soap, a toothbrush and a butter knife I'd certainly try to use those for self defense as best I can.

Besides like many others you are attacking the symptom not the cause.

You should research the cause in order to determine the proper solution.

It was being sarcastic.

Doubt the heads of the church are gonna get dinged by it, but it's no doubt a serious dose of really bad PR for them. Whether they like it or not "Scientology" and "shot a man to death" are gonna end up linked in the public consciousness... not the kinda thing that sells books, I imagine.

I wonder if it'll be fresh ammunition for Anon to launch a new campaign? Shooting deaths make for bigger shock value in the public consciousness after all.

I'll add that I bet the guy needed psychiatric treatment and hadn't been getting any, thus further leading to the wannabe-samurai attack.

Dunno about nothing coming from it though. This is the first major "Suspicious death tangentially related to Scientology" incident since Anonymous started their campaign at the beginning of this year. Between the Anon efforts, and the publicity because it was the Celebrity Center, there might be just enough public interest in the story now to keep the media's teeth in it, and thus maybe the police due to that attention.

You do realize that it's because of Scientology's Legal Team that they were able to get away with over 200 deaths related to Scientology (http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/26600/1367.html?1177378621)

People have tried to sue them before, but thanks to the legal team, they're either intimitated into dropping it, or they settle out of court. How else do you think they were able to pull off Operation Snow White? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Snow_White)

Do not underestimate Scientology.

Clearwater, FL Police are already in Scientology back pocket. I'm sure they have other police agency in their back pocket at their other HQs.

You do realize that it's because of Scientology's Legal Team that they were able to get away with over 200 deaths related to Scientology (http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/26600/1367.html?1177378621)


most of hose deaths seem to just be people that happened to be a part of Scientology and it's not the cause. There's probably many more Christians that died and killed in the same ways.

Not that Scientology's all good, it gave us the Battlefield Earth movie.

most of hose deaths seem to just be people that happened to be a part of Scientology and it's not the cause. There's probably many more Christians that died and killed in the same ways.

Not that Scientology's all good, it gave us the Battlefield Earth movie.

what gets me about battlefield earth was tome cruise thought it would get poeple to convert to Scientology

I wonder if it'll be fresh ammunition for Anon to launch a new campaign? Shooting deaths make for bigger shock value in the public consciousness after all. (Finishes scouting through their forums)
I know it'll give Anon more sick things to laugh about, the guy's name was Mario Majorski.

Doubt the heads of the church are gonna get dinged by it, but it's no doubt a serious dose of really bad PR for them. Whether they like it or not "Scientology" and "shot a man to death" are gonna end up linked in the public consciousness... not the kinda thing that sells books, I imagine.Well, not the kind of book they'd like to sell, anyway. It'll probably help sell books critical of CoS.


Not that Scientology's all good, it gave us the Battlefield Earth movie.Wait, they're responsible for that movie?

Yup, I couldn't believe it either. It just seems so ridiculous. :eek2:

Street samurai vs trolls! This is sooo Shadowrun... (look it up in the "moon" thread)

Wait, they're responsible for that movie?
Yes, the better term would be "The Return of Xenu" as it's the Scientology "End times" story.

Wow. I am appalled by the insanity of this case.

He should have started the assault by picking off the guards with a rifle, then stormed the compound with a pair of Uzi's, and finally broke out the swords for the close in work... he had it all backwards!

Ah, maybe in his next life he will get it right... his Thetan will hopefully get a body that is more tactically inclined. (Scientologists teach that your soul = your Thetan, and rip off the hindi idea of reincarnation).

If a rabid beast were combing at me and all I had were a towel, a bar of soap, a toothbrush and a butter knife I'd certainly try to use those for self defense as best I can.

Well to be perfectly honest, I'd be questioning as to why the rabid animal was combing me.
;p

This is exactly the sort of thing that happens when you don't get enough fiber in your diet. This and constipation.

diabeetus. he haz it.

This would be awesome if it wasn't fail.

No high score for him.

I smell an upcoming meme. (It stinks.)

My first thought was "Wonder if he was wearing a Guy Fawkes mask".

My first thought was "Wonder if he was wearing a Guy Fawkes mask".

Then he would have been carrying guns and throwing knives instead of just charging with a pair of factory-made katanas.

:tongue:

if Anon really has dug up information, they need to send the information to the various newspapers around the world, and have them do an article on it.

If it turns out Scientology was directly involved in this man's loss of sanity, then this could be the first real blow towards sending this cult back to where it came; the back of some idiot pulp fiction writer's mind.

if Anon really has dug up information, they need to send the information to the various newspapers around the world, and have them do an article on it.

If it turns out Scientology was directly involved in this man's loss of sanity, then this could be the first real blow towards sending this cult back to where it came; the back of some idiot pulp fiction writer's mind.

If Operation Snow White didn't work, this ain't gonna do shit.

well it turns out this guy was actually in service to the Japanese emperor.
so he is a real Samurai.
apparently he was trying to avenge an insult to the imperial family from tom cruise. the insult being the movie the last Samurai. All with out orders from the emperor of course.

well it turns out this guy was actually in service to the Japanese emperor.
so he is a real Samurai.
apparently he was trying to avenge an insult to the imperial family from tom cruise. the insult being the movie the last Samurai. All with out orders from the emperor of course.

Proof, please.

s/he was joking/sarcastic that or s/hes loony too.

Proof, please.

He had Samurai swords that all the proof you need. lol

well it turns out this guy was actually in service to the Japanese emperor.
so he is a real Samurai.
apparently he was trying to avenge an insult to the imperial family from tom cruise. the insult being the movie the last Samurai. All with out orders from the emperor of course.

/nitpick

Samurai were phased out during the Meiji restoration and eventually abolished.

/nitpick

Samurai were phased out during the Meiji restoration and eventually abolished.

Apparently they were restored to get revenge on tom cruise.


In other news Japan and Anon have announced an alliance. know as the technological axis. And all Anon members have been declared Samurai.
The current alliance wide goal is to kill Tom cruise.

If Operation Snow White didn't work, this ain't gonna do shit.

I fear you maybe right.

The current alliance wide goal is to kill Tom cruise.

Using a cruise missile would be the most ironic way to do so. I can see the headlines "Cruise killed by cruise".

Using a cruise missile would be the most ironic way to do so. I can see the headlines "Cruise killed by cruise".

i was thinking killed by the real last samurai

i was thinking killed by the real last samurai

who's kamikaze-riding a cruise missile, of course.