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I've been racking my brains for a couple days now and spent quite awhile on google in an attempt to answer my own question but I haven't been able to. Does anyone know who said ''For King and County''? If it isn't a quote was it used as a motto or something? I've been wondering this for awhile now and although it isn't important its just one of those little things you drive yourself nuts not knowing.

It was a thing the British used during the peak of the British Empire. For King/Queen and Country.

It's a Battle charge for soldiers to say back in midevil times then it pass on to todays british military foot soldiers.

It's a Battle charge for soldiers to say back in midevil times then it pass on to todays british military foot soldiers.
Dunno about medieval times - soldiers would probably have felt more loyalty to their direct feudal lord or mercenary captain than any king that they'd never seen before.

The Allied Spy in the Command and Conquer: Red Alert series was also a fan of saying it, given he was a spoof of James Bond type characters the world over.

The Allied Spy in the Command and Conquer: Red Alert series was also a fan of saying it, given he was a spoof of James Bond type characters the world over.

This was my thinking too.

"For King and Country" is a mispronunciation of the clasic battle cry "Fucking **** ****, DIE!"

"For King and Country" is very British and has been around quite a while. It can definitely be traced back to WWI propaganda, but I suspect it's been around even longer than that. A quick google search indicates that it's in quite a number of regimental mottos for example (generally in Latin as Pro Rege et Patria)

"For King and Country" is very British and has been around quite a while. It can definitely be traced back to WWI propaganda, but I suspect it's been around even longer than that. A quick google search indicates that it's in quite a number of regimental mottos for example (generally in Latin as Pro Rege et Patria)

Nothing more British than a bit o' Latin.

Found this
BARONETS. Are baronets of the United King-
dom entitled to wear a badge 1 That such a
privilege was granted to baronets of Nova
Scotia I am aware. I recently saw a badge of
which the following is a description. Argent-, a
hand sinister gules, within a treasure or, sur-
mounted by an imperial crown ; the whole en-
circled by a ribbon bearing the motto, " Pro Rege
et Patria," 1612. The badge had a neck ribbon
attached, and was evidently intended to be so worn.
One puzzling point is the date 1612, baronets
having been first created in 1611. J. A. 0.

[The red hand is borne as a badge by those of the
United Kingdom.]

on this website
http://www.archive.org/stream/s8notesqueries07londuoft/s8notesqueries07londuoft_djvu.txt

It is also the motto of the Clan Cameron

Found this
BARONETS. Are baronets of the United King-
dom entitled to wear a badge 1 That such a
privilege was granted to baronets of Nova
Scotia I am aware. I recently saw a badge of
which the following is a description. Argent-, a
hand sinister gules, within a treasure or, sur-
mounted by an imperial crown ; the whole en-
circled by a ribbon bearing the motto, " Pro Rege
et Patria," 1612. The badge had a neck ribbon
attached, and was evidently intended to be so worn.
One puzzling point is the date 1612, baronets
having been first created in 1611. J. A. 0.

[The red hand is borne as a badge by those of the
United Kingdom.]

on this website
http://www.archive.org/stream/s8notesqueries07londuoft/s8notesqueries07londuoft_djvu.txt

It is also the motto of the Clan Cameron

If Baronets first created in 1611 then why wouldn't we see one in 1612? Who was it that made this rank? James I IIRC, and it is only in the UK that this title may be found. Those last two bits are just some interesting tidbits on Baronets.

If Baronets first created in 1611 then why wouldn't we see one in 1612? Who was it that made this rank? James I IIRC, and it is only in the UK that this title may be found. Those last two bits are just some interesting tidbits on Baronets.

I wondered about that - whether they had reversed the date by mistake otherwise I cannot see why it is 'puzzling'.

I wondered about that - whether they had reversed the date by mistake otherwise I cannot see why it is 'puzzling'.

Oh sorry I thought you had typed that up. Yeah maybe they did.