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A rend in the space time continuum hurtles all gays and Mormons to an island abundant in resources. However without a means to produce modern technology they must create primitive medieval weaponry and live like those who lived in the middle ages. When I say live I mean technologically since the only modern technology they have from their original home is that which they were carrying. Culturally nothing has changed. The island is also large enough to house two opposing nations.

What happens next?

Id say something, but Im sure you'll just accuse me of persecuting Christians.

Id say something, but Im sure you'll just accuse me of persecuting Christians.

Your blind certainty astounds me.

*edges away* I ain't touching this one with a 10 foot pole. No way, no how.

A rend in the space time continuum hurtles all gays and Mormons to an island abundant in resources. However without a means to produce modern technology they must create primitive medieval weaponry and live like those who lived in the middle ages. When I say live I mean technologically since the only modern technology they have from their original home is that which they were carrying. Culturally nothing has changed. The island is also large enough to house two opposing nations.

What happens next?

A meteor comes down and wipes them all out.

The mormons die out because their women go over to the gay side. Don't ask why.

The mormons die out because their women go over to the gay side. Don't ask why.

I'd sig this, but out of context it would lose something.

What happens next?

I don't know, but I'm sure it involves you spamming nsg some more.

I don't know, but I'm sure it involves you spamming nsg some more.

You need a keener eye, and better accuracy your missing the point.:wink:

The true answer to this question, if considered will give some people a reflection of themselves which in turn will urge change.

I have a feeling that if some random jerk tried to make medieval weaponry with no forging equipment or experience, the result would be less than optimum. At the very least, their time would be better spent sharpening sticks and rocks.

The mormons probably do everything in their power to wipe out the gays Inquisition style.

The Mormons are all individually really friendly to the gays in public, and then form their own community and quietly start plotting against them. Two warring communities are gradually formed.
The gays realise that without any means of procreation (the Mormons won't help) they must either have heterosexual intercourse or their lifestyle will be wiped out. Children are born as the result of a "procreation programme", and gradually the gay community starts to include heterosexuals as the next generation is far from universally gay. A tolerant society is formed in which nobody questions the morality of any kind of sexuality. Until the Mormon missionaries arrive...
In the meantime, the Mormons realise they have a problem. Some of them are (dun dun derr) GAY...

Why would they live like people did in the Middle Ages if they have no capacity to reproduce technology? Wouldn't they start at primitive Stone Age technology? It's not as if they're suddenly going to know how to forge iron weaponry.

The mormons probably do everything in their power to wipe out the gays Inquisition style.

Given the anger homosexuals have towards Mormons right now I think they'll have an army of their own.

Given the anger homosexuals have towards Mormons right now I think they'll have an army of their own.

Right. Because Christians are persecuted.

Right. Because Christians persecuted.

Take your false claims somewhere else, this is a debate forum, there is no room for libelous remarks.

And also if you actually cared about contributing at all you would have made a proper assessment of my posts and the scenario and you'd know that the implication was that Mormonism and homosexuality both have equal defensive capabilities.

The homosexuals do have a right to be angry, the LSDs did step out of line big time however they were not the prime contributors to the opposition of gay marriage.

Now must I expound and give you a cute cutsy puppet show or should I let you figure out the point yourself?

I have a feeling that if some random jerk tried to make medieval weaponry with no forging equipment or experience, the result would be less than optimum. At the very least, their time would be better spent sharpening sticks and rocks.

What, you've never built a trebuchet out of popsicle sticks and Elmer's glue? :tongue:

What, you've never built a trebuchet out of popsicle sticks and Elmer's glue? :tongue:
I did, but I wouldn't expect it to hold off a rampaging horde of homosexuals. Unless I could somehow distract them through kitsch . . .

I suspect the winner will be the first to tame the mighty Mastodon. Since Mastodons historically have all been flamboyantly gay, I doubt the Mormons would last very long at all.

*edges away* I ain't touching this one with a 10 foot pole. No way, no how.
Don't you mean a halberd or spear? :p

Don't you mean a halberd or spear? :p

Ugh.... total sausage fest.

Don't you mean a halberd or spear? :p

Pole, pole, pole. I meant pole, mate.

The Mormons, being predisposed to delusion, attempt to build a religiously-inspired utopia, and fail miserably.

The gays, understanding the importance of struggle and of equality, build a liberal egalitarian paradise complete with open same-sex marriages, fabulous music, and bunnies.

Bereft of resources, the starving Mormons appeal for entry into Gaytopia, and are accepted generously, on the condition that they don't try to take away anyone's rights and don't ruin the skyline with their ugly temples.

My personal bias has nothing to do with my depiction of how this would turn out.

Pole, pole, pole. I meant pole, mate.
Alrighty then. No need to go medieval on me. :tongue:

A rend in the space time continuum hurtles all gays and Mormons to an island abundant in resources. However without a means to produce modern technology they must create primitive medieval weaponry and live like those who lived in the middle ages. When I say live I mean technologically since the only modern technology they have from their original home is that which they were carrying. Culturally nothing has changed. The island is also large enough to house two opposing nations.

What happens next?

The Mormons adapt better because their value system belongs in the far-distant past.

The mormons and gay people would probably just populate two different parts of the island. I don't think that mormons are major advocates of gay violence, and unless homosexual men develop ovaries, it really wouldn't matter 60 years later.

A rend in the space time continuum hurtles all gays and Mormons to an island abundant in resources. However without a means to produce modern technology they must create primitive medieval weaponry and live like those who lived in the middle ages. When I say live I mean technologically since the only modern technology they have from their original home is that which they were carrying. Culturally nothing has changed. The island is also large enough to house two opposing nations.

What happens next?

You're assuming that they're complete fucking idiots, bent on fighting WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE FOOD.

Look, it isn't reasonable of me to expect you to think through every post so it doesn't have glaringly wrong assumptions like that in it.

But could you, pleeeeasse, make an effort to consider what other posters are going to see in your posts, when they are thread-starting posts.

It just makes us all dumber, and feeds your own persecution complex.

You're assuming that they're complete fucking idiots, bent on fighting WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE FOOD.

Look, it isn't reasonable of me to expect you to think through every post so it doesn't have glaringly wrong assumptions like that in it.

But could you, pleeeeasse, make an effort to consider what other posters are going to see in your posts, when they are thread-starting posts.

It just makes us all dumber, and feeds your own persecution complex.

1) The NSG populace should do a better job at assessing the posts properly. I said the islands are abundant in resources which includes food water and all other things people in the wild need to survive and protect themselves. I never said they didn't have the essentials in fact it should have been obvious that the first thing both parties would do is secure all the essentials before fighting.

2) I can assume that it is blatantly obvious that I cannot trust ANY NSGer to make proper assessments of my posts, how come my posting style is not criticised in other threads and forums? Hmmm I think it is because here common sense is in short supply.

3) You don't need me to do that. Circumstance and the posters decide how dumb or intelligent the community is. And also I hate being mislabelled, I cannot possibly have a victim complex because victims can't fight back, I will.

As for my wordings in that post you really didn't expect them to start out with advanced weaponry, the primitive weaponry will obviously be built first because modern people just aren't renowned blacksmiths.

Wouldn't the gays heavily outnumber Mormons?

There are 13 million (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints) Mormons, and I'm pretty sure that the entire world has A LOT more than 13 million gays.

EDIT: Do closet gays count? What about people who aren't sure?

What about the gay Mormons? Won't someone think of the gay Mormons? :(

I suspect the winner will be the first to tame the mighty Mastodon. Since Mastodons historically have all been flamboyantly gay, I doubt the Mormons would last very long at all.

Hmmm...that might go some way toward explaining their extinction.

2) I can assume that it is blatantly obvious that I cannot trust ANY NSGer to make proper assessments of my posts, how come my posting style is not criticised in other threads and forums? Hmmm I think it is because here common sense is in short supply.

3) You don't need me to do that. Circumstance and the posters decide how dumb or intelligent the community is. And also I hate being mislabelled, I cannot possibly have a victim complex because victims can't fight back, I will.

Y'know what? It takes an ego of pretty large dimensions to post what you do, have it hacked to bits and then ask "what's wrong with this forum of hundreds of posters that THEY don't understand ME?"

It makes me wonder why you try? I mean, there are loads of forums within whose electronic walls you would fit perfectly. So there must be some reason why you persist here, posting nonsense and expecting some kind of mass acceptance from NSG. You need attention to a degree only psychiatrists can fully appreciate -- that's the only conclusion I can come up with given your behavior. Meanwhile, your built-in ego defense keeps telling you that the reason why nobody understands what you type is because the majority of the community is somehow "stupid". Well, you tell yourself whatever you need to in order to get through the day, you poor soul.

As for me, I think the whole premise of the OP is contrived nonsense designed to lure anyone who answers into an answer that SL can then pervert with his unique brand of persecution sophistry. "Oooh!" -- he prays we all think -- "I never thought of it THAT way! SL is SOOOOOO insightful and brilliant!"

How sad. How truly, truly sad.

The only thing sadder still will be SL's reply to this post. Ready?

Hmmm...that might go some way toward explaining their extinction.



Y'know what? It takes an ego of pretty large dimensions to post what you do, have it hacked to bits and then ask "what's wrong with this forum of hundreds of posters that THEY don't understand ME?"

It makes me wonder why you try? I mean, there are loads of forums within whose electronic walls you would fit perfectly. So there must be some reason why you persist here, posting nonsense and expecting some kind of mass acceptance from NSG. You need attention to a degree only psychiatrists can fully appreciate -- that's the only conclusion I can come up with given your behavior. Meanwhile, your built-in ego defense keeps telling you that the reason why nobody understands what you type is because the majority of the community is somehow "stupid". Well, you tell yourself whatever you need to in order to get through the day, you poor soul.

As for me, I think the whole premise of the OP is contrived nonsense designed to lure anyone who answers into an answer that SL can then pervert with his unique brand of persecution sophistry. "Oooh!" -- he prays we all think -- "I never thought of it THAT way! SL is SOOOOOO insightful and brilliant!"

How sad. How truly, truly sad.

The only thing sadder still will be SL's reply to this post. Ready?

Some nonsense about how you are st00pid and only hate him because he <3s Jesus.

Some nonsense about how you are st00pid and only hate him because he <3s Jesus.

I couldn't care less who anyone loves -- and that's also my whole point when it comes to homosexual marriage. Ironic.

What about the gay Mormons? Won't someone think of the gay Mormons? :(

I'm thinking of the gay Mormons.

Gosh yes.

I'm thinking of the gay Mormons.

Gosh yes.

I am so inundated with potential responses to this post that I can only post this sentence.

Alien Space Bats are really evil lately.

And it's an ISOT, you bean, not a warp.

Why do you, South Liz-spambot-sauria spam nsg and create stupid, pointless threads what, 3+ times a day?

Don't you do anything else?

I mean come on man. Lay off the spam...

edit: And to answer your question the mormons would crucify the gays.

What about the gay Mormons? Won't someone think of the gay Mormons? :(

Mormon McCarthy starts a Mormonic Committee on Anti-Mormonic Activities, and executes about half the mormonic populace on grounds of said activities.

This thread is the product of a delirium tremens.

A rend in the space time continuum hurtles all gays and Mormons to an island abundant in resources. However without a means to produce modern technology they must create primitive medieval weaponry and live like those who lived in the middle ages. When I say live I mean technologically since the only modern technology they have from their original home is that which they were carrying. Culturally nothing has changed. The island is also large enough to house two opposing nations.

What happens next?

We rejoice in the total (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._West_(politician)#Scandal) lack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Schrock) of (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley) republican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Curtis_(politician)) politicians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig).

1) The NSG populace should do a better job at assessing the posts properly. I said the islands are abundant in resources which includes food water and all other things people in the wild need to survive and protect themselves. I never said they didn't have the essentials in fact it should have been obvious that the first thing both parties would do is secure all the essentials before fighting.

You DID, actually. In the OP.

When I say live I mean technologically since the only modern technology they have from their original home is that which they were carrying.

They're carrying money (worthless), mobile phones (don't work without base stations), possibly Blackberries or some such (battery time dude) and if they happened to be fixing a fence at the time, perhaps a hammer.

You try walking out into "an environment rich in resources" without either starving or poisoning yourself.

In fact, do that. If you really can't get past the first page of a history textbook, or get some kind of grasp on where food, fire and shelter come from other than "click on little guy, order to gather fruit" then maybe you should learn from experience. Walk out into a wilderness and feed yourself.

2) I can assume that it is blatantly obvious that I cannot trust ANY NSGer to make proper assessments of my posts, how come my posting style is not criticised in other threads and forums?

You know we don't accept the "appeal to authority" of a poster claiming to know something because of their real life job. They demonstrate knowledge, there's no other measure.

Appealing to the "authority" of other unnamed forums to claim that your "posting style" is perfectly OK ... well ... let's face it, they must be pretty piss-weak, semi-literate forums if what you lay down here is taken as "common sense" there.

3) You don't need me to do that. Circumstance and the posters decide how dumb or intelligent the community is. And also I hate being mislabelled, I cannot possibly have a victim complex because victims can't fight back, I will.

There's a lot of mean things I could say to that.

I'll just repeat: Try to think through the ideas that you start threads with, and try not to make assumptions in your "scenarios."

And: quality over quantity. You do sometimes start a good thread.


As for my wordings in that post you really didn't expect them to start out with advanced weaponry, the primitive weaponry will obviously be built first because modern people just aren't renowned blacksmiths.

You owe the concession of that point to another poster. In fact, the first poster to make a serious reply to this silly, spammy thread:

I have a feeling that if some random jerk tried to make medieval weaponry with no forging equipment or experience, the result would be less than optimum. At the very least, their time would be better spent sharpening sticks and rocks.

Concede that point to HNFV in an explicit reply, and I'll get off your case for ONE WHOLE WEEK.

Pole, pole, pole. I meant pole, mate.

Easy for you to say. You don't even HAVE a ten-foot pole.

Why do you, South Liz-spambot-sauria spam nsg and create stupid, pointless threads what, 3+ times a day?

Don't you do anything else?

I mean come on man. Lay off the spam...

edit: And to answer your question the mormons would crucify the gays.

Wow.

You KNOW you've stepped in it if TROLLGAARD is on your ass.

Wow.

You KNOW you've stepped in it if TROLLGAARD is on your ass.

lulz

lulz

Yes, I found that funny too.

Intangelon: It's a mixed matador, or something. Anyway, wez lul @ u !

The Mormons are all individually really friendly to the gays in public, and then form their own community and quietly start plotting against them. Two warring communities are gradually formed.
The gays realise that without any means of procreation (the Mormons won't help) they must either have heterosexual intercourse or their lifestyle will be wiped out. Children are born as the result of a "procreation programme", and gradually the gay community starts to include heterosexuals as the next generation is far from universally gay. A tolerant society is formed in which nobody questions the morality of any kind of sexuality. Until the Mormon missionaries arrive...
In the meantime, the Mormons realise they have a problem. Some of them are (dun dun derr) GAY...

And after the riff-raff of both demographics are cleaned out, the more moderate population thrives, eventually overpopulating the Island, which, without modern sanitation and access to medical treatment, succumbs within a short time to a nasty bout of the plague.
**I was going to say AIDS, but then I realized I probably shouldn't.**

We rejoice in the total (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._West_(politician)#Scandal) lack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Schrock) of (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley) republican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Curtis_(politician)) politicians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig).

Why can't one be against gay marriage and still participate in homosexual activities?

And if politicians are meant to serve the people who voted them in, and even if they are gay if they are representing the views of their constituents, why can they not engage in homosexual activities?

Now, assuming that the rate of homosexuality is approximately 2-3% of the female population and 4-5% of the male population (depending on definition, this will certainly hold true in first world countries based on research evidence). Based on the world's population of 6 billion (actually closer to 7 now), you are talking about 2-300 million, thereabouts.

Even if you only take "out" gay people we're probably still talking of a population in the tens of millions.

Ergo, by island you really mean continent - even if there were abundent ressources, to feed such a huge population would be a massive undertaking and one that would take up significant amount of time for the first few years. After that, well given the relative differences in size between the two communities, even if a war was to start, it would be quite one-sided. More likely given the huge size of the homosexual side of the community, whose only common point is sexuality, you would see the fracture and creation of multiple smaller communities based on ethnic, cultural, polictical and religious lines, some of whom would probably get on well with the Mormons, some wouldn't. All would be struggling for resources (see point about being able to provide for such a huge population even with abundance of natural resources).


Edit: for that matter, you are talking about 13 million as well with the mormons and they are similarly unlikely to form a unified group just based on religion (or else Europe would never have been at war within the middle ages). You scenario is simply not feasible in any realistic way.

A rend in the space time continuum hurtles all gays and Mormons to an island abundant in resources. However without a means to produce modern technology they must create primitive medieval weaponry and live like those who lived in the middle ages. When I say live I mean technologically since the only modern technology they have from their original home is that which they were carrying. Culturally nothing has changed. The island is also large enough to house two opposing nations.

What happens next?

The gay's die out as no kids are born, unless they foresee this and draw straws for reproduction porpouses, and the Island becomes the Island of Dr Moroni.

Given the anger homosexuals have towards Mormons right now I think they'll have an army of their own.

Silly, everyone knows that gays can't be soldiers.

Silly, everyone knows that gays can't be soldiers.

They could be warriors. A la Conan. Macho gays in fur underwear with swords.
http://snarkerati.com/movie-news/files/2007/12/conan-the-barbarian.jpg

The gay's die out as no kids are born, unless they foresee this and draw straws for reproduction porpouses, and the Island becomes the Island of Dr Moroni.

I assume this is a joke.

I assume this is a joke.

Well the last part about Dr Morani certianly.:D

Yes, I found that funny too.

Intangelon: It's a mixed matador, or something. Anyway, wez lul @ u !

A mixed matador? What, a minotaur with a cape and a flashy outfit?

Now, assuming that the rate of homosexuality is approximately 2-3% of the female population and 4-5% of the male population (depending on definition, this will certainly hold true in first world countries based on research evidence). Based on the world's population of 6 billion (actually closer to 7 now), you are talking about 2-300 million, thereabouts.

Even if you only take "out" gay people we're probably still talking of a population in the tens of millions.

Ergo, by island you really mean continent - even if there were abundent ressources, to feed such a huge population would be a massive undertaking and one that would take up significant amount of time for the first few years. After that, well given the relative differences in size between the two communities, even if a war was to start, it would be quite one-sided. More likely given the huge size of the homosexual side of the community, whose only common point is sexuality, you would see the fracture and creation of multiple smaller communities based on ethnic, cultural, polictical and religious lines, some of whom would probably get on well with the Mormons, some wouldn't. All would be struggling for resources (see point about being able to provide for such a huge population even with abundance of natural resources).


Edit: for that matter, you are talking about 13 million as well with the mormons and they are similarly unlikely to form a unified group just based on religion (or else Europe would never have been at war within the middle ages). You scenario is simply not feasible in any realistic way.

SHH! Don't confuse SL with the facts! Besides, it's just "thought experiment" -- nope, couldn't say that with a straight face.

SHH! Don't confuse SL with the facts! Besides, it's just "thought experiment" -- nope, couldn't say that with a straight face.

Ah... a "thought experiment" whereby any attempt to solve or discuss it other than what it's author had originally intended is inevitably false due to the presence of multiple assumptions none of which he has bothered to list or justify.

And here I was with all my facts, I should have known better :eek::$

SHH! Don't confuse SL with the facts! Besides, it's just "thought experiment" -- nope, couldn't say that with a straight face.

there are a few posters on this forum that I have become convinced are incapable of learning from past mistakes. SL is one of them.

SHH! Don't confuse SL with the facts! Besides, it's just "thought experiment" -- nope, couldn't say that with a straight face.

Why do you hate Christians so much?

Why do you hate Christians so much?

why do you hate people who hate Christians so much?

Why do you hate Christians so much?

How do you get that out of my post? Ever break anything jumping to such conclusions? Reactionary much?

I would have thought 20,000 posts would have bought me some sarcasm recognition.

How do you get that out of my post? Ever break anything jumping to such conclusions? Reactionary much?

pssst, it's humor. See SL's other thread on the page currently

Easy for you to say. You don't even HAVE a ten-foot pole.

You. All. Are. So. Confusing.:(

You. All. Are. So. Confusing.:(

Ten foot pole? I've seen an Ed Tudor Pole!:D

Alrighty then. No need to go medieval on me. :tongue:

I'm not trying to. :p

Ten foot pole? I've seen an Ed Tudor Pole!:D

Pics!

the LSDs did step out of line big time however they were not the prime contributors to the opposition of gay marriage.
False.

Pics!

What of Ed Tudour Pole?

*shrug* Okay then.

http://http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&resnum=0&q=ed%20tudor%20pole&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi (http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&resnum=0&q=ed%20tudor%20pole&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)

False.

Heh why? Coz he sed LSD's?:D

What of Ed Tudour Pole?

*shrug* Okay then.

http://http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&resnum=0&q=ed%20tudor%20pole&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi (http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&resnum=0&q=ed%20tudor%20pole&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)

Disturbing.:eek2:

Disturbing.:eek2:

Heh can I assume then that you have never heard of the band Tenpole Tudour and their front man Edward Tudour Pole?

Heh can I assume then that you have never heard of the band Tenpole Tudour and their front man Edward Tudour Pole?

Nope, I've never have.

Nope, I've never have.

Ahhh then you must be young!:D

Well the last part about Dr Morani certianly.:D

That much I figured. I hoped it boded well for the rest of the post being comic relief, also. Fancying your own team doesn't remove the desire to have a family any more than fancying the other team does.

What of Ed Tudour Pole?

*shrug* Okay then.

http://http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&resnum=0&q=ed%20tudor%20pole&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi (http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&resnum=0&q=ed%20tudor%20pole&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi)

Didn't he used to present the Crystal maze for a while? After Richard O'brian left?

Ahhh then you must be young!:D

I'm 28.

Didn't he used to present the Crystal maze for a while? After Richard O'brian left?

Yes, he did. And that's where most people know him from, I'd imagine. His music career was less than impressive.

Yes, he did. And that's where most people know him from, I'd imagine. His music career was less than impressive.

Hehe... yep. Though he didn't last long in that show either. :D

I'm 28.

Ahhhh then not that young, *duck*

That much I figured. I hoped it boded well for the rest of the post being comic relief, also. Fancying your own team doesn't remove the desire to have a family any more than fancying the other team does.

Man don't tell me I've insulted you?

Did you read it? Let me repeat it.

'The gay's die out as no kids are born, unless they foresee this and draw straws for reproduction porpouses, and the Island becomes the Island of Dr Moroni.'

I don't see anything wrong there nor insulting, do you?

Silly, everyone knows that gays can't be soldiers.

They don't have to - they will just create incredibly well designed battlebots from twigs.

Or perhaps something more advanced. After all, according to the accumulated wisdom of youtube one cannot avoid noticing some stereotypicical gay overtones in this:

Iron Man intro (1996) (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=lfWPDzvWNds)

;)

Man don't tell me I've insulted you?

Did you read it? Let me repeat it.

'The gay's die out as no kids are born, unless they foresee this and draw straws for reproduction porpouses, and the Island becomes the Island of Dr Moroni.'

I don't see anything wrong there nor insulting, do you?

The idea that, because they're gay, they won't be able to work out that their numbers will decrease if there's no cross-gender interaction...?

Ahhhh then not that young, *duck*

You're calling me old?:eek: How dare you?!:mad:


:D

they must create primitive medieval weaponry and live like those who lived in the middle ages.

So they can forge iron etc? What a load of shite.

The idea that, because they're gay, they won't be able to work out that their numbers will decrease if there's no cross-gender interaction...?

Well I don't think that is what I said anyway. But there are many things to consider in such a hyperthetical situation. I know many gay people, and some of them would have sex with the oposite gender and some of them wouldn't.
Also consider that one half of the island(either gay or morman), may just have no interest in their genetic survival.
Also consider that if the gays do start to breed, what is the % chance that their offspring will end up gay themselves?
Also consider the % chance of the offspring of the Mormans being gay.

pssst, it's humor. See SL's other thread on the page currently

Sorry, but I'm a bit tired of the "just joking" bit. Cough up a smiley, 'cause lately, there's too many folks who honestly believe that horseshit showing up here. Perhaps I should know that Sdaer isn't one of them, but if that's the case, let HIM point it out.

Well I don't think that is what I said anyway. But there are many things to consider in such a hyperthetical situation. I know many gay people, and some of them would have sex with the oposite gender and some of them wouldn't.
Also consider that one half of the island(either gay or morman), may just have no interest in their genetic survival.
Also consider that if the gays do start to breed, what is the % chance that their offspring will end up gay themselves?
Also consider the % chance of the offspring of the Mormans being gay.

Let me make this simple for you.

GAY =/= CANNOT REPRODUCE.

Sorry, but I'm a bit tired of the "just joking" bit. Cough up a smiley, 'cause lately, there's too many folks who honestly believe that horseshit showing up here. Perhaps I should know that Sdaer isn't one of them, but if that's the case, let HIM point it out.



Let me make this simple for you.

GAY =/= CANNOT REPRODUCE.

For fucks sake did I even say that?

Well I don't think that is what I said anyway. But there are many things to consider in such a hyperthetical situation. I know many gay people, and some of them would have sex with the oposite gender and some of them wouldn't.
Also consider that one half of the island(either gay or morman), may just have no interest in their genetic survival.
Also consider that if the gays do start to breed, what is the % chance that their offspring will end up gay themselves?
Also consider the % chance of the offspring of the Mormans being gay.

Of the offspring, the probability of gay members is about the same as it is in the population at-large. Which means the first generation born to the 'gay' group in the scenario, will be a 'mixed' society.

The idea that gay people wouldn't have children is nonsensical. Not all gay people want to have children... but not all STRAIGHT people do, either. And yet, somehow, we seem to muddle by, century after century.

For fucks sake did I even say that?

Yes:

Man don't tell me I've insulted you?

Did you read it? Let me repeat it.

'The gay's die out as no kids are born, unless they foresee this and draw straws for reproduction porpouses, and the Island becomes the Island of Dr Moroni.'

I don't see anything wrong there nor insulting, do you?

The fact that you even mention that scenario as a possibility shows a lack of...well...I don't know what, exactly. Practical thought?

Of the offspring, the probability of gay members is about the same as it is in the population at-large.
Considerably larger, although to be sure not 100%

Considerably larger, although to be sure not 100%

Based on what?

Even between siblings, the rate of concordance is significantly higher than the background, though not as high as between identical twins. I don't know figures for parent-child, however.

Even between siblings, the rate of concordance is significantly higher than the background, though not as high as between identical twins. I don't know figures for parent-child, however.

Everything I've seen suggests homosexual/homosexual parents are about as likely to throw homosexual children as heterosexual children. That's why I was wondering about your sources.

Everything I've seen suggests homosexual/homosexual parents are about as likely to throw homosexual children as heterosexual children. That's why I was wondering about your sources.The only studies I've seen are about kids *adopted* by gay couples, who were not genetically related to them: excluding the blood-related cases because the studies were trying to get at the question of whether being raised by gays, in itself, increases the chances of being gay (answer: no). In the case of a genetic linkage, I would expect a different answer, given the results of the brother studies: but no, I don't know a source specifically addressing the amount of (bio)parent/child concordance.

Why do you, South Liz-spambot-sauria spam nsg and create stupid, pointless threads what, 3+ times a day?

Don't you do anything else?

I mean come on man. Lay off the spam...

edit: And to answer your question the mormons would crucify the gays.

Because such threads are appropriate for stupid pointless forums. This forum lost it's point once everyone decided to replace argument with debate.

Hmmm...that might go some way toward explaining their extinction.



Y'know what? It takes an ego of pretty large dimensions to post what you do, have it hacked to bits and then ask "what's wrong with this forum of hundreds of posters that THEY don't understand ME?"

It makes me wonder why you try? I mean, there are loads of forums within whose electronic walls you would fit perfectly. So there must be some reason why you persist here, posting nonsense and expecting some kind of mass acceptance from NSG. You need attention to a degree only psychiatrists can fully appreciate -- that's the only conclusion I can come up with given your behavior. Meanwhile, your built-in ego defense keeps telling you that the reason why nobody understands what you type is because the majority of the community is somehow "stupid". Well, you tell yourself whatever you need to in order to get through the day, you poor soul.

As for me, I think the whole premise of the OP is contrived nonsense designed to lure anyone who answers into an answer that SL can then pervert with his unique brand of persecution sophistry. "Oooh!" -- he prays we all think -- "I never thought of it THAT way! SL is SOOOOOO insightful and brilliant!"

How sad. How truly, truly sad.

The only thing sadder still will be SL's reply to this post. Ready?

I can safely assume that few NSGers will assess my posts properly becasue over the past few years they haven't.

As for my persistence there are multiple answers. One being that NSG amuses me greatly, it is my #2 form of entertainment whether or not I'm being serious there is always some anti-SL zealot out there ready to use blatantly asshattish tactics so that I can point out said tactics and make them feel like the sorry manipulative trolls they truly are. Thirdly I intend to act as a watchdog and report as much hypocrisy and loopy logic as possible.

Certain tactics have no place here.

And also know that I know what NSG's overall battle plan is now, so far it's make SL look like a selfish, narcissistic, ultra conservative with a victim complex. It's blatantly false and it's not going to work. In a fight between truth and falsehood, truth always wins out, or else the true villains wouldn't do the best they can to cover it.