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Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?

What other questions about super hero's do you guys have?

How is Batman so awesome?

How is Batman so awesome?

Because he has no real super powers, just billions of dollars. Billions of dollars makes anyone awesome. :D

How is Batman so awesome?

Because ultimitally his motivation is revenge. Which makes him a more dark, brooding, tragic hero. And thus, made of pure, 100% win.

Has anyone ever liked Daredevil? He's like the Punisher, but without the guns and ability to see things.

Because ultimitally his motivation is revenge. Which makes him a more dark, brooding, tragic hero. And thus, made of pure, 100% win.

True.

Because he has no real super powers, just billions of dollars. Billions of dollars makes anyone awesome. :D

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"I'm Batman!"

..."I'm Batman!"

I didn't recognise him with the glasses.

Has anyone ever liked Daredevil? He's like the Punisher, but without the guns and ability to see things.

Which makes him inferior to the Punisher:p.


And again, the Punisher is motivated by revenge. See my statement on Batman.

See Mystery Men (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0132347/).

The Shoveller: If we had a billionaire like Lance Hunt as our benefactor...
Mr. Furious: That's because Lance Hunt *IS* Captain Amazing
The Shoveller: Don't start that *again*. Lance Hunt wears glasses. Captain Amazing *doesn't* wear glasses.
Mr. Furious: He takes them off when he transforms.
The Shoveller: That doesn't make any sense, he wouldn't be able to see.

I'm pretty sure they're all gay. That's their MAIN motivation. Too long have they been transgressed and forgotten by society, not since the days of the Greco-Roman world were they truly accepted.

Because ultimitally his motivation is revenge. Which makes him a more dark, brooding, tragic hero. And thus, made of pure, 100% win.

Whats harder is thinking of superheroes (aside from Superman) who aren't ultimately motivated by revenge... Spidey (my personal favourite) is an other good example, but no where near as dark and brooding.

Would Batman beat Spiderman in a fight?

I didn't recognise him with the glasses.

I lol'd heartily.

Whats harder is thinking of superheroes (aside from Superman) who aren't ultimately motivated by revenge... Spidey (my personal favourite) is an other good example, but no where near as dark and brooding.

Eh, I don't like Spiderman, too whiney for my taste.

my question is how villains with serious mental psychosis are able to make such elaborate plans.

Eh, I don't like Spiderman, too whiney for my taste.

For me i like spiderman, but his alter ego peter parker is a whiny fool.

Which makes him inferior to the Punisher:p.
Yeah, that was my point. The Punisher is kind of cool even though he doesn't have powers or a multi-zillion dollar personal fortune, because he shoots people in the face and isn't above a little torture now and then.
Daredevil also doesn't have any kind of cool powers or personal wealth, and all he brings to the table is being a lawyer and every once in a while defending his enemies in court.

Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?

What other questions about super hero's do you guys have?

Owned. (http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=66:lana-and-lois-owned&catid=28:superdickery&Itemid=54)

:D

Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?

What other questions about super hero's do you guys have?

This is a question every comic book fan (And yes, I do mean every comic book fan, even that one fan who screams about how it's all part of the comic universe and makes perfect sense in the DC world) has asked himself/herself at one point or another, and something which every non-comic book fan (And yes, I do mean every non-comic book fan, even that one hater who screams about how it's just a dumb comic and we shouldn't bother talking about it) has also asked himself/herself at one point or another, and we've all reached the same conclusion: Yes, the entire population of Metropolis is that damn moronic, especially Lois, who, Pulitzer-prize winning journalist though she may be, spends fifteen hours a day with one or the other and can't even frikkin recognize the same man (Honestly, I'm legally blind and I can tell they're the same person).

Afterwards, we all move on, 'cause we all realize that everybody else realizes the same thing, and since that hasn't made a difference in the 70 years since Supermans creation we shouldn't even bother bringing it up, since it just gives fans ulcers and gives haters another reason to bitch.

My biggest qestion is how nobody notices the purposeful absence of one or the other whenever the other is around. Not, please notice, just the absence, but the purposeful absence. People always say "Superman and Clark are never together, how does nobody realize they're the same person?" even though that actually doesn't mean anything; I've never been seen together with George Bush, Michael Jordan, or Keanu Reeves, and that doesn't mean I'm one (Or all three) of them. However, the thing with these two is not that they're never together, it's that they're purposefully never together. When one of them is already at a place and the other arrives, the first goes away first. They make an actual decision to leave, always for some perfectly legitimate reason, and then reappear once the other is gone. I don't get how nobody notices "Clark, you always seem to go to the bathroom the minute before SUperman arrives" or "Superman, why is it that there's always an emergency across town the exact moment Clark is coming up the elevator?" etc.

That is what gets me.

Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?

What other questions about super hero's do you guys have?

Someone has the avatar of exactly this. I think JuNii might have at one point, but it's also quite possible I'm confusing him with someone else entirely. Name recognition is not my strength.

I wonder how superman manages to find the time to sow all the buttons back on the shirt when he rips it off...

Seriously, how does reversing the rotation of the world also reverse time without causing stupendous amounts of damage to the earth.

That was one helluva weak ending.

Speaking of stupendous, how come 6 year old billionaire playboy Calvin has never been seen in the same room as Stupendous Man, who's stomach of steel is all that stands between the future of humanity and the dinner concoctions of evil Mom Lady.

Yeah, that was my point. The Punisher is kind of cool even though he doesn't have powers or a multi-zillion dollar personal fortune, because he shoots people in the face and isn't above a little torture now and then.
Daredevil also doesn't have any kind of cool powers or personal wealth, and all he brings to the table is being a lawyer and every once in a while defending his enemies in court.

He's the Man Without Fear. *nod*

He's the Man Without Fear. *nod*

*sees avatar*

*re-reads own post*

Wait a minute...

y so srs

Something I've always wondered: Just who is it that the villains are talking to when they say things like, "Luckily, my earplugs will protect me from the effect!" or "You didn't count on me having super-strength AND unbreakable titanium chains!"?

Something I've always wondered: Just who is it that the villains are talking to when they say things like, "Luckily, my earplugs will protect me from the effect!" or "You didn't count on me having super-strength AND unbreakable titanium chains!"?

Themselves, it's like monologuing, super villains constantly have to reassure themselves of their own superiority, it's what drives them to super villainy.

This is a question every comic book fan (And yes, I do mean every comic book fan, even that one fan who screams about how it's all part of the comic universe and makes perfect sense in the DC world) has asked himself/herself at one point or another, and something which every non-comic book fan (And yes, I do mean every non-comic book fan, even that one hater who screams about how it's just a dumb comic and we shouldn't bother talking about it) has also asked himself/herself at one point or another, and we've all reached the same conclusion: Yes, the entire population of Metropolis is that damn moronic, especially Lois, who, Pulitzer-prize winning journalist though she may be, spends fifteen hours a day with one or the other and can't even frikkin recognize the same man (Honestly, I'm legally blind and I can tell they're the same person).

Afterwards, we all move on, 'cause we all realize that everybody else realizes the same thing, and since that hasn't made a difference in the 70 years since Supermans creation we shouldn't even bother bringing it up, since it just gives fans ulcers and gives haters another reason to bitch.

My biggest qestion is how nobody notices the purposeful absence of one or the other whenever the other is around. Not, please notice, just the absence, but the purposeful absence. People always say "Superman and Clark are never together, how does nobody realize they're the same person?" even though that actually doesn't mean anything; I've never been seen together with George Bush, Michael Jordan, or Keanu Reeves, and that doesn't mean I'm one (Or all three) of them. However, the thing with these two is not that they're never together, it's that they're purposefully never together. When one of them is already at a place and the other arrives, the first goes away first. They make an actual decision to leave, always for some perfectly legitimate reason, and then reappear once the other is gone. I don't get how nobody notices "Clark, you always seem to go to the bathroom the minute before SUperman arrives" or "Superman, why is it that there's always an emergency across town the exact moment Clark is coming up the elevator?" etc.

That is what gets me.
One of these days he is going to forget his glasses and they are going to be like "omg superman, what are you doing in Clark's clothes? What did you do with Clark Kent?!"

*sees avatar*

*re-reads own post*

Wait a minute...

There are no coincidences. ;)

Another question for everyone. Would it kill the villian to just pull out a gun, and instead of an elaborate plot, just shoot the good guy? I know, that would end the series, but still, it would make things so much easier.

There are no coincidences. ;)And no certainties.
Wonder what that leaves us with? :p

Another question for everyone. Would it kill the villian to just pull out a gun, and instead of an elaborate plot, just shoot the good guy? I know, that would end the series, but still, it would make things so much easier.

That's not how it works:

You put your nemesis in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death.

That's not how it works:

You put your nemesis in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death.

It's mind bottling I tell you!

That's not how it works:

You put your nemesis in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death.

and you assume that everything goes to plan. You forgot that part LG.

and you assume that everything goes to plan. You forgot that part LG.

I didn't think that needed to be said, but you're right. *nod*

Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?

What other questions about super hero's do you guys have?

These are... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ClarkKenting)

Something I've always wondered: Just who is it that the villains are talking to when they say things like, "Luckily, my earplugs will protect me from the effect!" or "You didn't count on me having super-strength AND unbreakable titanium chains!"?

Common... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LuckilyMyPowersWillProtectMe)

Another question for everyone. Would it kill the villian to just pull out a gun, and instead of an elaborate plot, just shoot the good guy? I know, that would end the series, but still, it would make things so much easier.

Questions... (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitle8gti69rvj2oq?from=Main.WhyDontYaJustShootHim)

But that's why the best comics aren't
1.Beat goon of the week
2. hit reset switch so can sell next comic.

They have a start and an end. Better comics such as Miracle Man, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, transmetropolitan, for example.

Superhero comics are just like soap operas. The most important thing is to not make major changes so everyone can get their comfortable fix of mindless drams. The drama has to be dramatic enough for you to b deluded into thinking the heros in trouble, thus the bang, your dead, just doesn't cut it.
Maybe it might be best to compare superhero comics to WWE?

Owned.

:D

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Did anyone else get a trojan from this?

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I didn't get a trojan

Would Batman beat Spiderman in a fight?


Batman beat Superman, The Predator, and Captain America.. he'd beet Spidey no problem.

my question is how villains with serious mental psychosis are able to make such elaborate plans.

Because they're crazy, not stupid?

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Another question for everyone. Would it kill the villian to just pull out a gun, and instead of an elaborate plot, just shoot the good guy? I know, that would end the series, but still, it would make things so much easier.
I suppose you've already read this: If I were an evil overlord (http://web.archive.org/web/20021219000613/http://www.angelfire.com/biz7/globalguardians/stuff/overlord.html)

Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?

What other questions about super hero's do you guys have?Well, back in the day, Superman had the power to erase people's memories as well.
My biggest qestion is how nobody notices the purposeful absence of one or the other whenever the other is around. Not, please notice, just the absence, but the purposeful absence. People always say "Superman and Clark are never together, how does nobody realize they're the same person?" even though that actually doesn't mean anything; I've never been seen together with George Bush, Michael Jordan, or Keanu Reeves, and that doesn't mean I'm one (Or all three) of them. However, the thing with these two is not that they're never together, it's that they're purposefully never together. When one of them is already at a place and the other arrives, the first goes away first. They make an actual decision to leave, always for some perfectly legitimate reason, and then reappear once the other is gone. I don't get how nobody notices "Clark, you always seem to go to the bathroom the minute before SUperman arrives" or "Superman, why is it that there's always an emergency across town the exact moment Clark is coming up the elevator?" etc.

That is what gets me.There've been a couple instances where Superman has been a projected hologram while Clark was around.

That's not how it works:

You put your nemesis in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death.

Scott, I want you to meet daddy's nemesis, Austin Powers.
What? Are you feeding him? Why don't you just kill him?
I have an even better idea. I'm going to place him in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death.

Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?


Well the population of Metropolis are fictional, so I would have to suggest it is the people who buy the comics that we should be worried about.

But that's why the best comics aren't
1.Beat goon of the week
2. hit reset switch so can sell next comic.

They have a start and an end. Better comics such as Miracle Man, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, transmetropolitan, for example.

Superhero comics are just like soap operas. The most important thing is to not make major changes so everyone can get their comfortable fix of mindless drams. The drama has to be dramatic enough for you to b deluded into thinking the heros in trouble, thus the bang, your dead, just doesn't cut it.
Maybe it might be best to compare superhero comics to WWE?

Or you can use the endlessly recuring fights of the week and returning, unkillable villains for dramatic effect, or to make a philosophical point. Like the showdown between Batman and the Joker in The Dark Knight. (spoiler alert):





"This is what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object. You won't kill me out of some missplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you because, you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to do this forever." - The Joker

That ending worked in part because it took a defect of comics (repetative stories with no real change), and turned it into an advantage, helping to create the most dark, tragic, and powerful ending of any superhero movie I've seen.

Eh, I don't like Spiderman, too whiney for my taste.

What about his quips and being the ultimate example of Talking Is A Free Action?

Would Batman beat Spiderman in a fight?


Don't think so. Spidey is more on the evasion-side in such a fight, so either Batman whoops up a good trap, or he's not catching up with Spidey.
Btw, they're both fairly intelligent types, so chances are that they would talk it over.

Don't think so. Spidey is more on the evasion-side in such a fight, so either Batman whoops up a good trap, or he's not catching up with Spidey.
Btw, they're both fairly intelligent types, so chances are that they would talk it over.

Spiderman has speed, reflexes, strength, and agility. Batman has tech and resources in general, as well as training.

Understand that I'm going largely off movie versions though, since I'm not a big comics guy.

Don't think so. Spidey is more on the evasion-side in such a fight, so either Batman whoops up a good trap, or he's not catching up with Spidey.
Btw, they're both fairly intelligent types, so chances are that they would talk it over.

No, it was mant as if they really did fight, in which case Batman would win because only Abraham Lincoln and Chuck Norris can defeat him.

No, it was mant as if they really did fight, in which case Batman would win because only Abraham Lincoln and Chuck Norris can defeat him.

The Joker must be jealous.:)

No, it was mant as if they really did fight, in which case Batman would win because only Abraham Lincoln and Chuck Norris can defeat him.

Batman is not a youngster, and Spidey's got reflexes on his side. Spidey would win in a long match.

Anyway Wolverine eats fillet-de-Tchouque-Norrisse every evening.

The Joker must be jealous.:)

He went mad with jealousy.

Hulk is the best hero ever

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I know, but I was looking for an amusing answer, like this one:
Themselves, it's like monologuing, super villains constantly have to reassure themselves of their own superiority, it's what drives them to super villainy.

I know, but I was looking for an amusing answer, like this one:

Its because they got too many wedgies in high school.

Because Superman wears special glasses like Cyclops' but Superman's glasses convert the special Kryptonion waves that are always coming from his eyes into mind-control waves so that everyone that sees him thinks he is Clark Kent. whenever the glasses are on.

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Did anyone else get a trojan from this?

I've never gotten anything from from superdickery before, so what's up with this link?

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Did your virus scanner pick something up or something?

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Did your virus scanner pick something up or something?

Yes. Maybe it's one of the adds or something?

What about his quips and being the ultimate example of Talking Is A Free Action (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TalkingIsAFreeAction)?

Fixed.

There've been a couple instances where Superman has been a projected hologram while Clark was around.

True, and there have also been clones, robots, and garden variety impersonators who occasionally pop up while Clark is hanging around, but with most of these they're usually exposed by the end of the story (Whether it's a comic, TV show, video game, etc.) so it looses a lot of its effectiveness. Plus, even with the retcons shortening just how long he's been around, even with these cameos it still means neither Clark or Superman disappears only once or twice in twenty years of coexisting, which still needs to raise some eyebrows.

Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?


Welcome to the 'why'd the chicken cross the road?' of comic book observations.

My own tired ass observation might be a variation of Genre Blindness, but back when I was a kid it would bother me reading something in the inclusive universe where the characters seemed unaware of their own universe, like Stiltman chuckling that no one locks windows on the upper floors of sky scrapers - why wouldn't they? If not only because they live in a world with a Stiltman, a major city newspaper constantly prattles on about the threat of a guy who swings on weblines from the tops of buildings and sticks to walls. Or when Ghost Rider would rip through a town on his flaming motorcycle and the two cops at the speed trap decide not to report it because no one would believe them, even though there is a government supported group of super heroes that includes the Norse god of thunder and another group that even has a guy who at will is completely made of fire. Like, shouldn't their reactions at least be, "Looks like it's one of those big city super-types" and then some concern that they might get into a super fight with another bozo and fuck up their town?

Does "Spiderman used my car as a bat" fall under special circumstances on your insurance or is car insurance just insanily expensive in Marvel's New York/Metropolis/Gotham? How hard is it to justify spending in those cities when it's just as likely that that new bridge or municipal building will have an Juggernaut size hole in it sooner or later? It's not so much that I want the characters or world to have read comic books, but rather that they reflect on how the differences created by the reality effect the rest of the reality. I realize this is just as tired as Clark Kent's glasses, but he asked.

Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?

Other than Lois Lane and perhaps a few other people, why would they think anything of it? Most of Metropolis hasn't seen Superman any closer than 1000 feet overhead flying at hundreds of miles per hour, and most of Metropolis hasn't seen Clark Kent any better than a black and white photograph in the Daily Planet. It's not as if all these people in Metropolis have an intimiate knowledge of one or the other.

Lois Lane, on the other hand, has likely seen both Superman and Clark Kent naked. She has no excuse. She's borderline retarded.

Yes. Maybe it's one of the adds or something?


Hm. Perhaps.


Welcome to the 'why'd the chicken cross the road?' of comic book observations.

My own tired ass observation might be a variation of Genre Blindness, but back when I was a kid it would bother me reading something in the inclusive universe where the characters seemed unaware of their own universe, like Stiltman chuckling that no one locks windows on the upper floors of sky scrapers - why wouldn't they? If not only because they live in a world with a Stiltman, a major city newspaper constantly prattles on about the threat of a guy who swings on weblines from the tops of buildings and sticks to walls. Or when Ghost Rider would rip through a town on his flaming motorcycle and the two cops at the speed trap decide not to report it because no one would believe them, even though there is a government supported group of super heroes that includes the Norse god of thunder and another group that even has a guy who at will is completely made of fire. Like, shouldn't their reactions at least be, "Looks like it's one of those big city super-types" and then some concern that they might get into a super fight with another bozo and fuck up their town?

YES. On a related note, whenever there is a "the superhero is quitting" story, why is there suddenly this huge spike in crime that nobody is able to fight? I mean, take Spider-Man. Whenever he gives up, everybody is all "oh no, what will we do without Spider-Man?"
Wouldn't some other superhero just pick up the slack? I mean surely he's not the only one who is aware of crime? If he doesn't go after it, why doesn't Iron Man? Or Thor? Or the Fantastic Four? Or... you get the idea. There's so many damn superheroes, it's a wonder that anybody notices that one is missing at all, even a more prolific one like Spider-Man.

Hm. Perhaps.



YES. On a related note, whenever there is a "the superhero is quitting" story, why is there suddenly this huge spike in crime that nobody is able to fight? I mean, take Spider-Man. Whenever he gives up, everybody is all "oh no, what will we do without Spider-Man?"
Wouldn't some other superhero just pick up the slack? I mean surely he's not the only one who is aware of crime? If he doesn't go after it, why doesn't Iron Man? Or Thor? Or the Fantastic Four? Or... you get the idea. There's so many damn superheroes, it's a wonder that anybody notices that one is missing at all, even a more prolific one like Spider-Man.
There's a great bit I think in the opening of Fearful Symmetry (good lord, why do I know that?) where Spiderman goes to stop a group of generic thugs about to rob am ATM by blowing it up and they start shooting at him and he starts bitching, "Seriously? Are you new to the city or something? Did you think no one tried that one before?" or something along those lines (and I believe is followed by onlookers bitching Spiderman out because the thugs weren't going to get away with much money because they used too much explosive and ruined the cash and all Spiderman did was endanger them with stray bullets shot at him).

Anyway, yeah - even if you argue that Iron Man and the Fantastic Four take on a 'higher level' of problem like Wraith war or whatever, there's still Daredevil and cats like him. And what the hell are you doing crime in a super hero riddled New York anyway? Or is it that there is a raft of public defenders or defense attorneys that make their living from dismissing charges against people because being wrapped in webbing with the note "Courtesy of your friendly neighborhood Spiderman" is not enough evidence to convict anyone but Spiderman of assault.

Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?

He walks differently, talks differently, carries himself differently, has different mannerisms, and no one actually expects Superman to have a secret identity.

Also super-hypnosis.

And the Superman robots.

Ok, so I'm watching "Superman Doomsday" on Cartoon Network, and something just came to me. Superman's only means of disguise is...a pair of glass. Is the entire population of Metropolis borderline retarded to not notice that Clark Kent is Superman without his glasses?

What other questions about super hero's do you guys have?

Um, have you seen the original Superman with Christopher Reeve? It's hammy as hell, but Reeve is extraordinarily convincing at presenting Clark Kent and Superman as two entirely different people. They have entirely different mannerisms, different posture, one has a deeper voice, Clark Kent seems shorter than Superman. I spent about 20 minutes going through Youtube looking for the clip and couldn't find it, but there's a scene in the original where he switches from Clark Kent to Superman and back to Clark Kent (he's debating about whether to reveal his secret to Lois), and he's two entirely different people in the span of about 20 seconds.

In the context of a larger universe, Superman doesn't wear a mask, and most people would be shocked by the idea that he has an alter-ego. As such, Clark Kent is just a good reporter who kind of looks like Superman every now and again (we all know someone who looks kind of like a celebrity). Combine that with very good acting skills (the modern Superman did theater in Smallville, and has studied Stanislavsky. While that isn't enough for most people, most people don't have Superman's level of concentration, focus, and memory), and it's conceivable that he could keep up appearances. It doesn't hurt that on more than one occassion, Superman and Clark Kent have been seen together; I recall in The Return of Superman comics after The Death of Superman, Supergirl rescued Clark Kent from the rubble while doing some kind of shapeshift to appear as Superman.

He walks differently, talks differently, carries himself differently, has different mannerisms, and no one actually expects Superman to have a secret identity.

Also super-hypnosis.

And the Superman robots.
There's also the matter of context, which plays a pretty big role in appearances. People don't expect to see Clark Kent flying around and bursting through walls, and they don't expect to see Superman working in an office. So they don't.

Other than Lois Lane and perhaps a few other people, why would they think anything of it? Most of Metropolis hasn't seen Superman any closer than 1000 feet overhead flying at hundreds of miles per hour, and most of Metropolis hasn't seen Clark Kent any better than a black and white photograph in the Daily Planet. It's not as if all these people in Metropolis have an intimiate knowledge of one or the other.

Lois Lane, on the other hand, has likely seen both Superman and Clark Kent naked. She has no excuse. She's borderline retarded.

one Lois and Clark episode has some time travellers revealing that Lois Lane has the title of "the dumbest woman in the galaxy" for not realizing that clark and Superman were the same person.

one Lois and Clark episode has some time travellers revealing that Lois Lane has the title of "the dumbest woman in the galaxy" for not realizing that clark and Superman were the same person.

Haha.

For the most part, Lois is the only one with the level of personal contact with both Superman and Clark Kent who should figure it out, but doesn't. Everyone else either only knows one personality or the other, or, if they know both, they're not so totally clueless, and figure it out.

Haha.

For the most part, Lois is the only one with the level of personal contact with both Superman and Clark Kent who should figure it out, but doesn't. Everyone else either only knows one personality or the other, or, if they know both, they're not so totally clueless, and figure it out.

Then there's Lana Lang. the girl who found out who clark was and kept her knowledge a secret... even from clark himself. ;)

frankly tho. I hate comic series where it's one battle after another. that's why I like X-men, New Mutants, etc (the older series that is.) when you can have one episode about a baseball game, or going shopping, camping or just goofing around with the danger room...

I for one would like to see a 'charity' baseball game between the Avengers and X-men. ;)

Haha.

For the most part, Lois is the only one with the level of personal contact with both Superman and Clark Kent who should figure it out, but doesn't. Everyone else either only knows one personality or the other, or, if they know both, they're not so totally clueless, and figure it out.

I'm not sure, but I think Lois is aware that Clark Kent is Superman in whatever the hell continuity is running now.

I'm not sure, but I think Lois is aware that Clark Kent is Superman in whatever the hell continuity is running now.

well they're married and have a son, so....

well they're married and have a son, so....

which boggles the mind when one really thinks about it (http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html).