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Can the Antichrist burn?

R539
14-11-2008, 22:56
Well, being suggested as a thread, here it is. Can the Antichrist burn? Well, being from Hell and born in fire, can he? Is he mortal or impervious to fire?
Nanatsu no Tsuki
14-11-2008, 22:58
He's fire-proof, I'm sure.
Lunatic Goofballs
14-11-2008, 22:58
I think a more pertinent question is, "Can the Antichrist sing?"
Isolated Places
14-11-2008, 22:59
Can a fictional character burn? Theoretically yes if you want the antchrist to go up in flames you could ignite them.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
14-11-2008, 22:59
I think a more pertinent question is, "Can the Antichrist sing?"

If he does indeed burn, he will sing. Well, not only sing, he will howl.
Vampire Knight Zero
14-11-2008, 23:00
he comes from a hot place. I doubt he burns. :D
Holy Cheese and Shoes
14-11-2008, 23:01
Any old excuse to set the AntiChrist on fire, isn't it?

"he's unholy - burn him!"

"I'm cold - burn him!"

"In the name of Science - burn him!"

Poor bugger
Holy Cheese and Shoes
14-11-2008, 23:03
I think a more pertinent question is, "Can the Antichrist sing?"

I think the most crucial question is one of physics;

If the AntiChrist and Christ touch, will they annihilate each other in an explosion of pure energy? :confused:
R539
14-11-2008, 23:03
Any old excuse to set the AntiChrist on fire, isn't it?

"he's unholy - burn him!"

"I'm cold - burn him!"

"In the name of Science - burn him!"

Poor buggerBut, would he burn if that happened? Would the fire just go around him like he was in an invisible bubble or just noncombustible, even while the flames have engulfed him?
Lunatic Goofballs
14-11-2008, 23:04
I think the most crucial question is one of physics;

If the AntiChrist and Christ touch, will they annihilate each other in an explosion of pure energy? :confused:

I hope so. That'd probably be the birth of a new universe. *nod*
Isolated Places
14-11-2008, 23:06
If the antichrist burns how big would the carbon footprint be?
Mad hatters in jeans
14-11-2008, 23:07
what do we need another universe for?
we can't even travel a fraction of this one yet.
R539
14-11-2008, 23:08
If the antichrist burns how big would the carbon footprint be?Greater than that created by all the martians driving their Hummers on Mars. What? How is Mars having "global warming" then?
Zilam
14-11-2008, 23:15
Well, being suggested as a thread, here it is. Can the Antichrist burn? Well, being from Hell and born in fire, can he? Is he mortal or impervious to fire?

Anti-Christ is anyone who doesn't obey Christ. "THE" Anti-Christ, will be like anyone else, and not a fire breathing/loving/consuming beast.
R539
14-11-2008, 23:20
Anti-Christ is anyone who doesn't obey Christ. "THE" Anti-Christ, will be like anyone else, and not a fire breathing/loving/consuming beast.Actually, the Antichrist is the son of Satan.
Eviamp
14-11-2008, 23:24
Can the Anti-Christ burn, it's a very interesting question really. It really needs to be answered in two parts really, possibly even three. When the Anti-Christ originally becomes known, he'll be a mere mortal, more than able to burn, get shot, be stabbed, or the what not. It's not till after they actually die that the Anti-Christ will truly be indwelt of Satan, at which point they will come back from the dead, leading many to believe the Anti-Christ really is the second coming. From that poin on, the Anti-Christ shall be impervious, truly a God among men and immortal, and won't be able to burn or die. Eventually Jesus will come back in all His glory, and the Anti-Christ will be cast into a large lake of burning sulpher, and will burn for eternity. So after the long ass exaplanation, yes, the Anti-Christ can burn. :-P
R539
14-11-2008, 23:26
So after the long ass exaplanation, yes, the Anti-Christ can burn. :-PBut only from divine intervention? Could he just as easily burn in a house fire?
Eviamp
14-11-2008, 23:33
Like I said, there are three phases of existence for the Anti-Christ. Pre-Indwelling, Post-Indwelling, Eternal Damnation. During the Pre-Indwelling period, when the Anti-Christ is merely a mortal, and at that point, yes, he could die in a mere house fire, or the such. The Anti-Christ will have power granted from Satan, so it'll be unlikely his demise will be related to a house-fire, but he would be susceptible to it. During the Post-Indwelling period, no he couldn't burn, at all, a house-fire would have as much effect on him as a cold shower does on you. Then with divine intervention he'll burn again, in an existance far worse than any potentioal house-fire. Hope I've been helpful, and keep in mind these are only my interpretations, which I've gained through study of the Book of Revelation.
Dumb Ideologies
14-11-2008, 23:36
Nope, Obama doesn't burn, he just tans :p
R539
14-11-2008, 23:39
During the Pre-Indwelling period, when the Anti-Christ is merely a mortal, and at that point, yes, he could die in a mere house fire, or the such.Why would he not just be born immortal? Or, why would he be born? Satan could just send him up to reek havoc throughout the world, just by being present somewhere. Why would the Antichrist ever be a mortal being?Nope, Obama doesn't burn, he just tans :pI agree fully.
Smunkeeville
14-11-2008, 23:43
Actually, the Antichrist is the son of Satan.

Is not. :p
R539
14-11-2008, 23:48
Prove it. =P
Eviamp
14-11-2008, 23:49
Dumb Ideologies, I will second that notion. :p

Now to answer the thread host, I state again, this is merely my interpretation based upon study of the Book of Revelation. I came to the idea, that there were three phases during the Tribulation. That a mortal man would rise from obscurity to a position of great power, promising peace and world unity. He would eventually show his true colors, and unite the world under his forceful dictatorship. He will eventually die, and rise from the dead, feeding many's believe that he truly is the second coming of Jesus. He'll rule the world and persecute the Christians, while making all others worship him. When the world comes to it's worst, Jesus will come back, and win the war. He will then raise the dead and judge the living and the dead. Those that didn't accept Jesus as Savior will be cast into the sulpherous lake, along with the body of the Anti-Christ and his human sould, while Satan is locked away for a thousand years. Jesus will create His new 1000 Year Kingdom, and after 1000 years, Satan will be released once more. That is my interpretation.
Conserative Morality
14-11-2008, 23:56
Is not. :p

Yeah! He's the son of STALIN!:eek2:

No, not Joseph Stalin...

BILLY STALIN!
http://www.vgcats.com/othercomics/images/030418.gif
Dorksonian
14-11-2008, 23:57
Give me some matches and lemme check.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
14-11-2008, 23:58
Give me some matches and lemme check.

Do you KNOW the Antichrist personally?
Smunkeeville
14-11-2008, 23:58
Prove it. =P

You made the assertion, you prove it.
Dumb Ideologies
15-11-2008, 00:05
Actually, the Antichrist is the son of Satan.

That a mistake resulting from the work of a dyslexic biblical scholar. The Antichrist is actually meant to be the son of Santa, who as we all know is Karl Marx in disguise. Basically, followers of Socialism are a bunch of Santaists, and the labour movement as a whole is collectively the Antichrist.
R539
15-11-2008, 00:08
You made the assertion, you prove it.The Bible has done that for me.
Eviamp
15-11-2008, 00:14
R539, you can't simply cite the Bible. If your being asked to prove an assertation, to use the Bible as your reasoning, tell what in the Bible makes you say it's undeniably true. For example, I could tell you what in the Book of Revelation led me to each of my asserations. That is what you need to do if you want to prove an asseratation based on the Bible. I couldn't technically prove mine, as I've already admitted my view is my personal interpretation. Yet you say that your view that the Anti-Christ is the Son of Satan is undeniable proof, leading me to say citing the Bible without giving specifics is an easy way out.
R539
15-11-2008, 00:15
Possibly you would know where to find it then. I haven't read the whole Bible, just bits and parts.
Smunkeeville
15-11-2008, 00:16
The Bible has done that for me.

Which Bible? It's not the same one I've read.
Callisdrun
15-11-2008, 00:17
If he does indeed burn, he will sing. Well, not only sing, he will howl.

"Cries and screams are music to my ears."
Nanatsu no Tsuki
15-11-2008, 00:18
"Cries and screams are music to my ears."

You... you tease me with your penis pwnage!
R539
15-11-2008, 00:22
You... you tease me with your penis pwnage!How'd we get from Satan to dicks? Besides the point that Satan is indeed a dick...
Callisdrun
15-11-2008, 01:33
You... you tease me with your penis pwnage!

The penis is a very funny looking but useful part of the body.
Euroslavia
15-11-2008, 01:33
The Bible has done that for me.


I'm curious as to what Bible verse proves that. I've studied Revelations in my 8th grade year in grade school, and I don't remember any sort of verse that says such a thing.
Callisdrun
15-11-2008, 01:34
How'd we get from Satan to dicks? Besides the point that Satan is indeed a dick...

Several of us have gotten ourselves rather worked up in Sinuhue's "First Date" thread. Our minds are rather focused on rather specific matters at the moment.
Dumb Ideologies
15-11-2008, 01:37
How'd we get from Satan to dicks? Besides the point that Satan is indeed a dick...

We don't know that. We never hear Satan's side of the story. Maybe God is the evil one who defeated a brave freedom fighter against his tyranny, and then tricked us all into demonising him (pun intended).
NoMoreNumbers
15-11-2008, 01:39
I'm curious as to what Bible verse proves that. I've studied Revelations in my 8th grade year in grade school, and I don't remember any sort of verse that says such a thing.

Revelations is so weird you can interpret pretty much anything in it to mean anything.
Tech-gnosis
15-11-2008, 01:49
The Antichrist will be immune to hellfire and normal fire. Holy fire would, however, burn him up like a roman candle.
Ifreann
15-11-2008, 01:53
IMS, certain biblical verses suggest that the "fire and brimstone" style hell would actually be cooler than one description of Heaven(which would include several moons each being a hot as our sun). Therefore, if the AntiChrist, coming from a hot place, is immune to fire and heat, then Christ, coming from a much hotter place, would logically be more immune.

I'm not sure why we should care about this, I just thought I'd put it out there.
Kyronea
15-11-2008, 02:43
Well, being suggested as a thread, here it is. Can the Antichrist burn? Well, being from Hell and born in fire, can he? Is he mortal or impervious to fire?

I've got a better question: Is the Antichrist truly evil, or is the Antichrist someone God chose to fulfill the role so Jesus could return and take all of the believers to Heaven?

That is, is the Antichrist, like Judas, a redeemable figure?
R539
15-11-2008, 02:49
I don't think so...
Holy Cheese and Shoes
15-11-2008, 03:07
Sucks to be him, huh? Created by God just so he can be chucked in a sulphurous pit and make Jesus look good.
South Lorenya
15-11-2008, 04:00
The idea of an antichrist is a lie perpetuated by a false religion, so...

Sure! But only if sales of inflatable sheep are on the rise and LG is armed to the teeth with pies.
R539
15-11-2008, 05:16
Why is it that all the threads about Jesus and god get stepped on by everyone who doesn't believe?
South Lorenya
15-11-2008, 05:24
Why is it that all the threads about Jesus and god get stepped on by everyone who doesn't believe?

Because christianity has more holes than a swiss cheese festival?
SaintB
15-11-2008, 06:38
I think the most crucial question is one of physics;

If the AntiChrist and Christ touch, will they annihilate each other in an explosion of pure energy? :confused:

The Christ to Antichrist energy to mass ratio is 1:1 for sure.
Kyronea
15-11-2008, 06:57
Why is it that all the threads about Jesus and god get stepped on by everyone who doesn't believe?

Here? We have a disproportionate amount of atheists and non-Christian religious folks. It's odd.

(I'm an atheist myself, actually, but I do find Christian mythology interesting at times. My question about the Antichrist being a redeemable figure is a serious one, too, because I find that an interesting concept to explore.)
Anti-Social Darwinism
15-11-2008, 08:37
The Bible has done that for me.

The one thing I always loathed, despised, detested, abominated and abhorred about some people is that, when asked why they believed something (particularly something completely irrational), they would respond "because the Bible says so." Then, when asked where the Bible says so, they can't tell me. If pressed they then mumble something about the pastor of their church telling them that the Bible says so.

So, the Bible may do it for you, it does nothing for me. And people who cite the Bible as a source, without actually having looked closely at it, do even less for me.

Personally, I think Satan's gotten a bad press. You have to admit, up until recently, JC's PR people have done a decent job. The current crop, though ...
Trans Fatty Acids
15-11-2008, 08:46
We don't know that. We never hear Satan's side of the story.

Except for, y'know, Milton.




Seriously, R539, Chapter & Verse are handy things when asserting something about the Bible.
The Alma Mater
15-11-2008, 08:48
Why is it that all the threads about Jesus and god get stepped on by everyone who doesn't believe?

Because oddly enough those people tend to be the ones that have
a. actually read the Bible
b. bothered to research some of its claims a bit

which seems to be far more effort than a significant portion of vocal Christians have made.
Hamilay
15-11-2008, 08:52
I don't know. Does he weigh less than a duck?
Extreme Ironing
15-11-2008, 15:26
I don't know. Does he weigh less than a duck?

Argh... beaten to it. *shakes fist*
G3N13
15-11-2008, 15:40
THERE WILL BE NO ANTICHRIST TO HERALD THE APOCALYPSE! (http://www.viruscomix.com/page433.html)
R539
15-11-2008, 17:11
I've got a better question: Is the Antichrist truly evil, or is the Antichrist someone God chose to fulfill the role so Jesus could return and take all of the believers to Heaven?

That is, is the Antichrist, like Judas, a redeemable figure?Well, is he/she? I don't think so. Judas was necessary but he killed himself, meaning he went to Hell.
Gauntleted Fist
15-11-2008, 20:23
Well, is he/she? I don't think so. Judas was necessary but he killed himself, meaning he went to Hell.Where does the Bible say this? Where, I ask.
Articoa
15-11-2008, 20:38
Where does the Bible say this? Where, I ask.

Right here! Obviously! (Points to Genesis)
It clearly says that Judas went to staright to Hell! :p
Saluna Secundus
16-11-2008, 01:12
Can he burn?Yeah!When hell freezes over!:hail:
R539
16-11-2008, 01:22
Raises a good question, can he freeze?
The Brevious
16-11-2008, 01:24
I think a more pertinent question is, "Can the Antichrist sing?"
Isn't there a broadway thing about that?
Antichrist Superstar?
Oh wait, that was Marilyn Manson ... he's not much of a singer, really.
R539
16-11-2008, 01:25
Isn't there a broadway thing about that?
Antichrist Superstar?
Oh wait, that was Marilyn Manson ... he's not much of a singer, really.

Another question, what gender is Marilyn Manson?
The Brevious
16-11-2008, 01:26
If the antichrist burns how big would the carbon footprint be?
:fluffle:
New thesis!
The Brevious
16-11-2008, 01:27
Another question, what gender is Marilyn Manson?Depends on the year, as i understand it.
The Brevious
16-11-2008, 01:28
But only from divine intervention? Could he just as easily burn in a house fire?Or after an impromptu gasoline dance with his model friends?
R539
16-11-2008, 01:29
Or after an impromptu gasoline dance with his model friends?
Best movie ever.
The Brevious
16-11-2008, 01:30
Nope, Obama doesn't burn, he just tans :p
Name says it all, eh?
The Brevious
16-11-2008, 01:31
Best movie ever.
How many of us walked away from that thinking we were a mere facial tic away from having our own Magnum?
*le sigh*
The Brevious
16-11-2008, 02:34
So The History Channel is showing "The Antichrist" right now, as i type.
Worth a shout-out and a viewing.
So far, they haven't gotten to the part about how many people are wrong about "the number of the beast".

Also - since it's not 666, doing that little thing with Reagan and Bush seems irrelevant now. Whose names come up under the correct number?
R539
16-11-2008, 03:54
So The History Channel is showing "The Antichrist" right now, as i type.
Worth a shout-out and a viewing.I saw that, and went to The Discovery Channel. I've seen that program like twenty times already. It, and the movie Constantine, inspired this thread.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
16-11-2008, 03:57
Another question, what gender is Marilyn Manson?
Is stupid a gender? What about obnoxious?
R539
16-11-2008, 04:00
I don't think so, but I think deranged is...
SaintB
16-11-2008, 08:00
The Christ to Antichrist energy to mass ratio is 1:1 for sure.

Not funny?
Cameroi
16-11-2008, 11:20
pardon jamal, not bush. and definately not chaney, rumsfield and rove.

the only 'anti'christ' is fundimentalist fanatacism.

that is the real 'anti' of EVERY faith.
Soleichunn
16-11-2008, 14:21
Actually, the Antichrist is the son of Satan.

So God and Satan are like two arguing parents, with the other saying "He's your son!" whenever the child does something bad?
R539
16-11-2008, 14:51
So God and Satan are like two arguing parents, with the other saying "He's your son!" whenever the child does something bad?
Sort of, they get in fights at their football games...
SaintB
16-11-2008, 14:55
The Christ to Antichrist energy to mass ratio is 1:1 for sure.

Not funny?

No.. not funny...
Holy Cheese and Shoes
16-11-2008, 15:05
No.. not funny...

*gives SaintB a biscuit*

There there....
SaintB
16-11-2008, 15:06
*gives SaintB a biscuit*

There there....

Sweet a biscuit!
R539
16-11-2008, 18:12
Enjoy your free biscuit that may be tainted...
The Alma Mater
16-11-2008, 18:13
Enjoy your free biscuit that may be tainted...

Hmm... body of antichrist ;)
Gauntleted Fist
16-11-2008, 18:14
So God and Satan are like two arguing parents, with the other saying "He's your son!" whenever the child does something bad?I can imagine them both arguing. :D
Articoa
16-11-2008, 19:47
I can imagine them both arguing. :D

But here's the question. Is Jesus the quaterback, linebacker, or that scrawny kid that sits on the bench wishing his two parents would shut up?
R539
16-11-2008, 20:15
How, he was all at the same time. Satan was the water-bitch.
The Alma Mater
16-11-2008, 20:17
But here's the question. Is Jesus the quaterback, linebacker, or that scrawny kid that sits on the bench wishing his two parents would shut up?

Jesus is the ball man. The ball ! Being kicked for your sins !
Kyronea
17-11-2008, 01:29
So The History Channel is showing "The Antichrist" right now, as i type.
Worth a shout-out and a viewing.
So far, they haven't gotten to the part about how many people are wrong about "the number of the beast".

Also - since it's not 666, doing that little thing with Reagan and Bush seems irrelevant now. Whose names come up under the correct number?

What's the correct number?
Articoa
17-11-2008, 01:31
Jesus is the ball man. The ball ! Being kicked for your sins !

I could just buy a new one if got deflated.
Trans Fatty Acids
17-11-2008, 01:53
What's the correct number?

Brevious may be referring to the recent discovery of an early text (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44169) that has the number as 616.

Of course, there are plenty of folks out there who believe in the divinely inspired inerrancy of certain translations such as the KJV, so as far as they're concerned the correct number will still be 666, Alexandrian codices be damned.

Edit: Wikipedia's discussion of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast) is actually pretty good.
Nanatsu no Tsuki
17-11-2008, 01:59
Brevious may be referring to the recent discovery of an early text (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44169) that has the number as 616.

Of course, there are plenty of folks out there who believe in the divinely inspired inerrancy of certain translations such as the KJV, so as far as they're concerned the correct number will still be 666, Alexandrian codices be damned.

Edit: Wikipedia's discussion of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast) is actually pretty good.

Oh, I'm going to read on that. I like Early Christian debates! Thanks, Trans-sama!
The Brevious
17-11-2008, 22:53
Enjoy your free biscuit that may be tainted...
If be a tainted biscuit, by golly, it's likely limp.
The Brevious
17-11-2008, 22:55
Brevious may be referring to the recent discovery of an early text (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44169) that has the number as 616.

Of course, there are plenty of folks out there who believe in the divinely inspired inerrancy of certain translations such as the KJV, so as far as they're concerned the correct number will still be 666, Alexandrian codices be damned.

Edit: Wikipedia's discussion of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast) is actually pretty good.Mega-*bow*
Thank you!
I appreciate very, very much that there's posters like you on here, who not only know the material but who can put it so eloquently.
Holy Cheese and Shoes
17-11-2008, 22:55
If be a tainted biscuit, by golly, it's likely limp.

Don't try and turn this into a Nu Metal thread :p
anarcho hippy land
17-11-2008, 23:13
Well, since scewing the polls in Californy. It should be apparent that, yes, I can burn. In fact A whole large area up there is burning right now.
And to further answer youre questions. 1. yes, I am made of flesh so put that dagger away. 2. I am NOT going to destroy the world ( just having a bit of fun)
3. What's all this 666 crap anyway. My freek'n zip code or something?
Trans Fatty Acids
17-11-2008, 23:24
Oh, I'm going to read on that. I like Early Christian debates! Thanks, Trans-sama!

Mega-*bow*
Thank you!
I appreciate very, very much that there's posters like you on here, who not only know the material but who can put it so eloquently.

:$ Aww, yer welcome, folks! Sometimes all of my hardcore nerdiness does come in handy.

Well, since scewing the polls in Californy. It should be apparent that, yes, I can burn. In fact A whole large area up there is burning right now.
And to further answer youre questions. 1. yes, I am made of flesh so put that dagger away. 2. I am NOT going to destroy the world ( just having a bit of fun)
3. What's all this 666 crap anyway. My freek'n zip code or something?

Dude, watch out. You burned Oprah's house. Now she's going to smite you with the power of TV.
anarcho hippy land
17-11-2008, 23:39
:$ Aww, yer welcome, folks! Sometimes all of my hardcore nerdiness does come in handy.



Dude, watch out. You burned Oprah's house. Now she's going to smite you with the power of TV.

HA she works for me anyway (diabolicle laughter )
R539
17-11-2008, 23:41
HA she works for me anyway (diabolicle laughter )Oprah works for no one. NO ONE!!!
The Brevious
18-11-2008, 00:11
Don't try and turn this into a Nu Metal thread :pSorry, just stating the abstract. Er, obvious. Oblivious.
Hmmm ... maybe just stating what came to mind.
Soleichunn
21-11-2008, 01:34
*Wonders if the Antichrist weighs the same as a duck*