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well my apartment is next to a sort of mega church. I say sort of because it is a mega church for the small town i am in. And they are having a revival country music is blaring with the occasional speech about Jeeeeesssssuuusss.
they are keeping me awake. I called the non emergency number for the police and apparently they have a permit.


My question is where does the right for me to get a goods night sleep begin and the right to public demonstration begin (because of permit)

My question is where does the right for me to get a goods night sleep begin and the right to public demonstration begin (because of permit)

When the local government gives it out. Just like my local government gave out a permit for a group of people to have a BBQ and a band playing amongst other things going on during the labor day weekend. Exactly the same as what is happening with you.

Really what is your point?

Noise complaint?

I think he's trying to get at is it's not because it's religious, it's because it's loud and disturbing his sleep, so that's why.... may I assume that...?

I think he's trying to get at is it's not because it's religious, it's because it's loud and disturbing his sleep, so that's why.... may I assume that...?
You are correct.
They have their loud speakers up so loud they are vibrating my windows. not even the redneck in the diesel dually.
And the conversation with the police was they have a permit so they can ignore normal noise standards in a residential zone.

The worst part is their permit is apparently valid for 3 days and 3 nights and i got work in 5 hours.

You are correct.
They have their loud speakers up so loud they are vibrating my windows. not even the redneck in the diesel dually.
And the conversation with the police was they have a permit so they can ignore normal noise standards in a residential zone.

The worst part is their permit is apparently valid for 3 days and 3 nights and i got work in 5 hours.

You should take it up with the council for allowing this sort of permit.

Or

You go and cause a blackout.

You should take it up with the council for allowing this sort of permit.

Or

You go and cause a blackout.

believe me I will. But given i am a college student I doubt they will listen.
then again the Mayor is a regular customer at my restaurant maybe if i bring it up with him next time he comes in.

I thought about firing my pistol into the air to make everyone run in panic. But i guessed it would only make issues worse.

Clearly, you should burn their church down, those inconsiderate bastards.

Or pull a prank. Like, sneak into the building, do a bit of rewiring, and, in the middle of one of their songs, cut to "Closer" by Nine Inch Nails. (Or any other suitable song). That way you don't have to pay for the gas to start the fire.

believe me I will. But given i am a college student I doubt they will listen.
then again the Mayor is a regular customer at my restaurant maybe if i bring it up with him next time he comes in.

I thought about firing my pistol into the air to make everyone run in panic. But i guessed it would only make issues worse.
Find out the mayor's home number, call him at three am (or when it's blaring), hang the phone out the window and let him see if it's too loud.

Wow, you guys have really good ideas, lol. I'm definatly coming here when I have a problem!

Incidentally, I have tried my idea before. (The music one, not the arson. :p)

There were some campus preachers at my university plaza, and one of them had set up some speakers playing some sort of gospel music to play in the background while the head preacher yelled at everybody.

So I took out my iPod, hooked it into the input jack, and played "Closer," starting right at "I wanna fuck you like an animal."

Needless to say, they were not amused, but everybody else was.

Well next time i apply for a permit to throw a kegger I will bring up this incidence.

Do you have Pagan friends? If so, get them together, go to whereever you go to get permits. Get a permit for a gathering in a public area as close to the Church and do a nice Pagan ritual. Go heavy on the black robes, chalices, swords etc. - your pagan friends will know what to do. When they complain, and they will, show them your permit, then cite freedom of religion.

Given the nature of this forum I highly doubt it.

Forgive us for not wanting to be part of a zombie cannibal suicide cult.

Depends. If it's at 9 PM, then just wear earplugs, but if it's like at 3AM, then something needs to happen. The best solution is to go into the church (not during a service) and ask them nicely to turn the music down a few decibels.

In my city, it's no noise violations after 10 p.m. on a workday. I imagine that would include revivals, and you can bet your ass I'd keep calling emergency as often as necessary.

In my city, it's no noise violations after 10 p.m. on a workday. I imagine that would include revivals, and you can bet your ass I'd keep calling emergency as often as necessary.

The permit covered noise for all hours.
And they are not a cult just regular southern Baptist. okay maybe a cult.
no need to tie up emergency lines when i get them to explain it to me on non emergency lines.

Did anyone else notice the get rid of evil spirits add on this thread ???

Clearly, you should burn their church down, those inconsiderate bastards.

Or pull a prank. Like, sneak into the building, do a bit of rewiring, and, in the middle of one of their songs, cut to "Closer" by Nine Inch Nails. (Or any other suitable song). That way you don't have to pay for the gas to start the fire.
Missed you. :)
How about "Country Boner" from Puscifer, "Girls of Porn" from Mr. Bungle (well, that and "None of Them Knew They Were Robots") and "Song of Joy" from Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds?

Missed you. :)
How about "Country Boner" from Puscifer, "Girls of Porn" from Mr. Bungle (well, that and "None of Them Knew They Were Robots") and "Song of Joy" from Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds?

Gwar - Meat Sandwich (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXOpQxL5f0)

You are correct.
They have their loud speakers up so loud they are vibrating my windows. not even the redneck in the diesel dually.
And the conversation with the police was they have a permit so they can ignore normal noise standards in a residential zone.

The worst part is their permit is apparently valid for 3 days and 3 nights and i got work in 5 hours.

http://tao.ca/~limpfist/images/summer4.jpg

I know what you would say to this: "F****n Dykes.." But would you complain about it on here after it caused you to be late?


BTW I have nothing against gays.

Gwar - Meat Sandwich (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXOpQxL5f0)

Ooh yes, GWAR!
:hail:
Forgive us for not wanting to be part of a zombie cannibal suicide cult. Splitter! :(

I have difficulty believing that a legitimate permit allows noise ordinance violations too long after the usual hour (commonly 10-11pm) in a residential neighborhood. I'd start there.

We have not yet established whether or not the group in question is a cult, what more for a zombie cannibal suicide one.

Okay, they worship a man who rose from the dead, AKA a zombie. They symbolically eat his flesh and drink is blood. Last time I checked, that's cannibalism in spirit. And, in this impure world of sin, the best thing a Christian can hope for is to die. Every Sunday, they pray themselves closer to their reunion with their beloved zombie. Ergo, it's a suicide cult as well.

well my apartment is next to a sort of mega church. I say sort of because it is a mega church for the small town i am in. And they are having a revival country music is blaring with the occasional speech about Jeeeeesssssuuusss.
they are keeping me awake. I called the non emergency number for the police and apparently they have a permit.


My question is where does the right for me to get a goods night sleep begin and the right to public demonstration begin (because of permit)

SHow up in a suit covered with dirt and shout, "Jesus sent me! He resurrected me and told me to come here! He has a message for you from Heaven! He says dial it down, you're disturbing the neighbors! That is all." Then leave.

Okay, they worship a man who rose from the dead, AKA a zombie. They symbolically eat his flesh and drink is blood. Last time I checked, that's cannibalism in spirit.
Then you need to check again, because there is no such thing as "cannibalism in spirit." There's cannibalism, and then there's eating things that aren't human. (Besides which, Jesus wasn't "a man who rose from the dead," he was "a deity," which makes eating him every bit as kosher as eating whale or gorilla).

For dearest greed, there are these wonderful things nowadays called ear plugs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ear_plugs), or, if that's not your style, headphones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headphones). Just because someone makes noise, that doesn't mean you have to listen.

well my apartment is next to a sort of mega church. I say sort of because it is a mega church for the small town i am in. And they are having a revival country music is blaring with the occasional speech about Jeeeeesssssuuusss.
they are keeping me awake. I called the non emergency number for the police and apparently they have a permit.


My question is where does the right for me to get a goods night sleep begin and the right to public demonstration begin (because of permit)

What time is it?

well my apartment is next to a sort of mega church. I say sort of because it is a mega church for the small town i am in. And they are having a revival country music is blaring with the occasional speech about Jeeeeesssssuuusss.
they are keeping me awake. I called the non emergency number for the police and apparently they have a permit.


My question is where does the right for me to get a goods night sleep begin and the right to public demonstration begin (because of permit)

So the establishment across the street has one shin dig that makes a bit of noise and you're there calling the police, get a grip.

We all have to endure a little disturbance for the joy of others in this world it's called give and take.

Also if this the kind of thing that happens fairy often and it bothers you, MOVE and let a country music loving jesus fanatic move in!

Bose noise reduction headphones
http://www.bose.co.uk/GB/en/home-entertainment/personal-audio/headphones/acoustic-noise-cancelling-headphones/index.jsp

then again the Mayor is a regular customer at my restaurant maybe if i bring it up with him next time he comes in.

Depending on how well you know him, sounds like the best idea.

Do you have Pagan friends? If so, get them together, go to whereever you go to get permits. Get a permit for a gathering in a public area as close to the Church and do a nice Pagan ritual. Go heavy on the black robes, chalices, swords etc. - your pagan friends will know what to do. When they complain, and they will, show them your permit, then cite freedom of religion.
SHow up in a suit covered with dirt and shout, "Jesus sent me! He resurrected me and told me to come here! He has a message for you from Heaven! He says dial it down, you're disturbing the neighbors! That is all." Then leave.

Less practical, but more fun ideas. :D

And they are not a cult just regular southern Baptist. okay maybe a cult.

Indeed.

Did anyone else notice the get rid of evil spirits add on this thread ???

Heh. Adblock FTW. :wink: (Actually that typo first had me wondering about what one could add onto the forums to protect oneself from evil spirits...)

Also if this the kind of thing that happens fairy often and it bothers you, MOVE and let a country music loving jesus fanatic move in!

Be nice and don't call the closet cases fairies...

Bose noise reduction headphones
http://www.bose.co.uk/GB/en/home-entertainment/personal-audio/headphones/acoustic-noise-cancelling-headphones/index.jsp

275 pounds is a bit high. You can buy several speakers and a lot of death metal music to blast at them for that.

SHow up in a suit covered with dirt and shout, "Jesus sent me! He resurrected me and told me to come here! He has a message for you from Heaven! He says dial it down, you're disturbing the neighbors! That is all." Then leave.
Show up dressed like a zombie, saying Jesus sent you and told you to go there. The noise is waking up the dead and waking up the dead is his and only his job and he's not very happy with them right now.

For dearest greed, there are these wonderful things nowadays called ear plugs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ear_plugs), or, if that's not your style, headphones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headphones). Just because someone makes noise, that doesn't mean you have to listen.Why don't they wear headphones, so that other people don't have to be bothered with their noise. They're the ones being the nuisance, why do the victims have to pay and accommodate?

Walk in, reel off some random Bible quotes, announce yourself to be the Second Coming, and then command them to shut up because you're trying to give the reincarnated Mary Magdalene some heavenly lovin', and the racket they are making is killing your holy boner.

well my apartment is next to a sort of mega church. I say sort of because it is a mega church for the small town i am in. And they are having a revival country music is blaring with the occasional speech about Jeeeeesssssuuusss.
they are keeping me awake. I called the non emergency number for the police and apparently they have a permit.


My question is where does the right for me to get a goods night sleep begin and the right to public demonstration begin (because of permit)

Earplugs. INvest in Earplugs. I live across the street from a church, and work nights. Since I'm not a christian, it's annoying, so I use those neat little soft-foamy earplugs.

Incidentally, I have tried my idea before. (The music one, not the arson. :p)

There were some campus preachers at my university plaza, and one of them had set up some speakers playing some sort of gospel music to play in the background while the head preacher yelled at everybody.

So I took out my iPod, hooked it into the input jack, and played "Closer," starting right at "I wanna fuck you like an animal."

Needless to say, they were not amused, but everybody else was.

Made of win.

What time is it?

3 am and still going.

3 am and still going.

why not tell them a Gay parade is about to attack their meeting? or if worst comes to worst throw rotten eggs at them.

Earplugs. INvest in Earplugs. I live across the street from a church, and work nights. Since I'm not a christian, it's annoying, so I use those neat little soft-foamy earplugs.

tried the vibrations from the music too strong to sleep.
Talk to other residents in my apartments and we sent a person to talk to the church today.
They agreed to move the stage farther away from our apartments and turn down the volume. for the next two nights.

speaking of earplugs anyone know a good pair for swimming?
I used some spongy ones that claimed they were water resistant, but they eventually failed and they often fell out.
anyone?

Why don't they wear headphones, so that other people don't have to be bothered with their noise. They're the ones being the nuisance, why do the victims have to pay and accommodate?
Because it is easier for one person to get a pair of headphones than it is for a huge group to get them and somehow figure out how to hook them up? Because he can control only himself, and not them, thus making questions about fairness rather a waste of time?

The permit covered noise for all hours.
And they are not a cult just regular southern Baptist. okay maybe a cult.
no need to tie up emergency lines when i get them to explain it to me on non emergency lines.

I didn't say they were a cult. I know it's a big church. They shouldn't be allowed to violate noise rules just because they've got the holy spirit in them. I don't want an "explanation", I want quiet. There's absolutely no reason they can't go home and invite Christ back into their lives the next day.

Play Numa Numa on your own loud speakers back at them. That should get their goat to start dancing.

http://tao.ca/~limpfist/images/summer4.jpg

I know what you would say to this: "F****n Dykes.." But would you complain about it on here after it caused you to be late?


BTW I have nothing against gays.

Yes. Yes I would.

Wow, you guys have really good ideas, lol. I'm definatly coming here when I have a problem!

...

oh wow

You could get tons of speakers the next day, put them outside the church and play some obscene heavy metal outside the church during morning prayers.

Oh, and get a permit if you need to do that.

1- Find where the pastor lives.
2- Buy tons of fireworks.
3- Get a permit.
4- ?????
5- PROFIT!

get your own permitt
and play your musiclouder
:D

Depends. If it's at 9 PM, then just wear earplugs, but if it's like at 3AM, then something needs to happen.
Indeed, back here getting a noise permit after midnight requires a VERY serious reason, ie. it does not happen.

The policy is so strict certain nightclubs near other residences can't book live acts after midnight and no open air concert near other people can go on after midnight.

There are exceptions, like new year's eve, and ultimately it's mostly under local council's authority not general legislation.


Getting back to the topic...

Assuming this is America, I'd sue the church for pollution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_pollution) hazardous to your health.

Here's the wiki quote:
Human health effects
Main article: sound health effects

Noise health effects are both health and behavioural in nature. The unwanted sound is called noise. This unwanted sound can damage physiological and psychological health. Noise pollution can cause annoyance and aggression, hypertension, high stress levels, tinnitus, hearing loss, sleep disturbances, and other harmful effects.[4][5][6] Furthermore, stress and hypertension are the leading causes to health problems, whereas tinnitus can lead to forgetfulness, severe depression and at times panic attacks.[5][7]

If that's not cause for a court case in the Grand Ol' USA then nothing is.

Heck, for that matter, I'd sue the council or whatever instance that gave the permit as well for acting out irresponsibly.

well my apartment is next to a sort of mega church. I say sort of because it is a mega church for the small town i am in. And they are having a revival country music is blaring with the occasional speech about Jeeeeesssssuuusss.
they are keeping me awake. I called the non emergency number for the police and apparently they have a permit.
My question is where does the right for me to get a goods night sleep begin and the right to public demonstration begin (because of permit)

you could sue the church for existential damage (unsure of the translation of the term). here in italy some churches have been sentenced to silence their bells, because of people living nearby getting stressed (you know, bells ringing at 7 in the morning even on sundays and things like that).

well my apartment is next to a sort of mega church.

I live across the street from a tabernacle.

I say sort of because it is a mega church for the small town i am in. And they are having a revival country music is blaring with the occasional speech about Jeeeeesssssuuusss.
they are keeping me awake. I called the non emergency number for the police and apparently they have a permit.


My group leaves their door open ("You can't shut-out God!")

My question is where does the right for me to get a goods night sleep begin and the right to public demonstration begin (because of permit)

My group: "God knows no curfew!"

you could sue the church for existential damage (unsure of the translation of the term). here in italy some churches have been sentenced to silence their bells, because of people living nearby getting stressed (you know, bells ringing at 7 in the morning even on sundays and things like that).
Thoughts for the very obvious:

If you don't want to hear church bells at 7am on Sunday morning, don't move near a church. If you don't want to hear airplanes roaring overhead, don't move into a flight path. If you don't want to hear fire engine sirens screaming all all hours, don't move next to a fire station.

That said -- this music blaring all night is ridiculous and unnecessary.

Some of my friends have this problem. Husband works graveyard and the people nextdoor to them have a band that plays music in their garage. Although they put in insulation and wooden boards to block out the noise. They still can hear the noise. They do the most practical thing. They call the police and complain. It's probably the only option you have at this time.

Start your own church right next door. Have a competition to see who can be louder. The End.

What time is it?Hey hippie, how 'bout you? You want a watch?
*Oh, no thanks. I'm not into time.
*Well if you had a watch, you'd know that it's nighttime. And nighttime ain't no time to be in this here neighborhood!

Sums it up.

Burn down their church. The end.


EDIT: Better yet, while theyre all there partying and keeping you up, go rob their houses.

Burn down their church. The end.


EDIT: Better yet, while theyre all there partying and keeping you up, go rob their houses.
I have to snicker a bit with this for some reason.

If anybody makes excessive noise in a residential area at 3 A.M., people get pissed. However, I doubt, say, a political group would have been granted the permit to allow them to do what the Christians were doing in this case.

Enough with your persecution complex already.

What possible evidence can you present that other groups that get permits to make lots of noise late into the night do not get complaints?

Your assertion is nonsense. It just so happens that this particular instance is about a church that just happens to be Christian. I live and have lived near plenty of churches of many denominations who got permits for bands to perform for all kinds of holidays and events, yet somehow every one of them managed to wrap up the noise by a decent hour, in keeping with both local noise ordinance and with being good neighbors. So what's THIS church's problem, hm?


You're just intolerant of Christianity!!!111

What possible evidence can you present that other groups that get permits to make lots of noise late into the night do not get complaints?

Your assertion is nonsense. It just so happens that this particular instance is about a church that just happens to be Christian. I live and have lived near plenty of churches of many denominations who got permits for bands to perform for all kinds of holidays and events, yet somehow every one of them managed to wrap up the noise by a decent hour, in keeping with both local noise ordinance and with being good neighbors. So what's THIS church's problem, hm?

I never said they don't get complaints, I merely asserted that they're not posted here.

I like the idea of sneaking into their church and putting in a death metal CD.

You're really looking too deep into this, as if something must absolutely be blamed for something. Seriously. I doubt the original poster meant this as something against the entirety of Christianity in general. If you can see the title, and manage to read his post, you can see that what you're saying is clearly not the case.Beat you to that, as well. ;)

Beat you to that, as well. ;)

Damn you and your faster typing!


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Damn you and your faster typing!


:$...Sorry? :( :fluffle:

What are you talking about, and who do you mean to be saying it to? Because, to the extent the above makes any sense, it seems to have nothing at all to do with anything I've said here.

I think its supposed to be directed at me. To be fair, I picked the fight, you didnt.

I think its supposed to be directed at me. To be fair, I picked the fight, you didnt.
You started it, but he is trying to escalate it by trying to lure people into flamebaiting others who are not part of the conversation. I wonder if he intends to get back to the topic ever.

In the interest of getting back to the topic:

You are correct.
They have their loud speakers up so loud they are vibrating my windows. not even the redneck in the diesel dually.
And the conversation with the police was they have a permit so they can ignore normal noise standards in a residential zone.

The worst part is their permit is apparently valid for 3 days and 3 nights and i got work in 5 hours.
This was vaguely bothering me. I don't know where G&D is, but I have a hard time believing that a permit that covers an event that runs for 3 days/nights actually allows the celebrants to maintain the same noise level for that entire time, including over night, in a residential neighborhood.

I have a sneaking suspicion that this is a case of G&D calling the police non-emergency number and having an idiot pick up his call -- someone who just saw "permit" and shut off his brain at that point.

G&D might want to double check with his city or town hall what the rules about such permits actually are, and if it turns out the church was supposed to abide by night time noise ordinances, make sure his local police precinct understands that.

You are correct.
They have their loud speakers up so loud they are vibrating my windows. not even the redneck in the diesel dually.
And the conversation with the police was they have a permit so they can ignore normal noise standards in a residential zone.

The worst part is their permit is apparently valid for 3 days and 3 nights and i got work in 5 hours.

Think about it this way. If you were part of a group that got a permit for some kind of get-together that made noise and all of a sudden, halfway through they shut you down because some crotchety old man was complaining about the noise. How would you like having the town go back on its word that what you were doing was legally permissible?

I feel for ya, I really do--I used to work graveyard shift hours (11pm to 7am) and NO public gathering near my residence was a good idea during the day or I'd never get any sleep, so I have an idea where you're coming from.

That said, it's too late to shut these guys down. Way too late. But you can still take steps to make sure you have advance warning next time. That's all you can do that would be in any way fair to them because, going back to the graveyard shift thing, even if you got them to quit their noise at night, they'd keep some poor schmuck awake during the day.

But what you do is get a bunch of people together to write to the city council and say, Hey, we need notice next time you give some group a permit to be noisy. People are trying to sleep out here. We have to go to work, you know. We need at least this much notice before the next big noisy event so we can arrange for different hours or time off at work.

The worst they can do is ignore you. But maybe they won't. It's worth a try. Barring that, get earplugs.

Think about it this way. If you were part of a group that got a permit for some kind of get-together that made noise and all of a sudden, halfway through they shut you down because some crotchety old man was complaining about the noise. How would you like having the town go back on its word that what you were doing was legally permissible?

I feel for ya, I really do--I used to work graveyard shift hours (11pm to 7am) and NO public gathering near my residence was a good idea during the day or I'd never get any sleep, so I have an idea where you're coming from.
Yeah, but your sleep hours were during the times that everybody else was allowed to be noisey by law, without needing a permit.

I'm still not 100% certain that permit was being used properly.

Hehe, the forum ads I'm seeing are for a Vedic ritual service that will clear evil and negativity out of my surroundings -- "Is Evil Spirit or Wrong Aura Haunting Your House?" -- and for such things as "ghost quizzes."

Guess I know what the forum thinks of this noisy neighbor thing. ;)

The permit covered noise for all hours.
And they are not a cult just regular southern Baptist. okay maybe a cult.
no need to tie up emergency lines when i get them to explain it to me on non emergency lines.
A Southern Baptist Megachurch... Who saw that one.

Counter with heavy metal when the preacher is yelling at everyone.

And now, back to the topic of THIS church being mega-selfish and keeping people up at all hours.

The more I think about this... (I have issues with noisy neighbors, but I only get woken up at 4am by private citizen assholes.)

You could write a letter to the church pastor, politely explaining the problem and asking them to tone down the volume after 11pm for future events. Be sure to keep a copy of that letter. And mail it from the post office -- wait in line to hand it to a human and get your copy of it date stamped as proof of when you mailed it.

Who knows? They might surprise you and change their habits. And if they don't then you've initiated the on-paper record of your attempts to deal with them in a friendly manner for purposes of future complaints.

I don't think that you should have to put up with this. 3 A.M. is way too late to be kept up by those people. The best thing to do would probably be to talk to the pastor, because most pastors care about things like that. However pastors are only people too, so hopefully you guys didn't get stuck with a jerk. Can't they start worshipping god earlier so that everyone is happy, or do they have to wait until everyone is trying to sleep?

I don't think that you should have to put up with this. 3 A.M. is way too late to be kept up by those people. The best thing to do would probably be to talk to the pastor, because most pastors care about things like that. However pastors are only people too, so hopefully you guys didn't get stuck with a jerk. Can't they start worshipping god earlier so that everyone is happy, or do they have to wait until everyone is trying to sleep?

They have to weight until the full moon is high in the sky and the planet Mars can been seen low in the horizon.

The only time to do this is late at night, if people are trying to sleep well that's just to bad.

Hehe, the forum ads I'm seeing are for a Vedic ritual service that will clear evil and negativity out of my surroundings -- "Is Evil Spirit or Wrong Aura Haunting Your House?" -- and for such things as "ghost quizzes."

Guess I know what the forum thinks of this noisy neighbor thing. ;)

Wanna hear something funny? Our household (it being an indian household) subscribes to the Indian channels on Cablevision. Every maybe half hour or so you'll see a commercial for something like that. Anti-"Black Magic" commercials, Astrology commercials.

...*sighs*

Now I'm seeing Christian Networking ads. Okay, the irony is getting a little much. At what point does the forum itself get done for trolling? :D

Now I'm seeing Christian Networking ads. Okay, the irony is getting a little much. At what point does the forum itself get done for trolling? :D...I have no ads. o_0
...Where did they go?

Now I'm seeing Christian Networking ads. Okay, the irony is getting a little much. At what point does the forum itself get done for trolling? :D

I have "Learn Hebrew Online"

Luckily, that sort of thing has never happened to me. I am a highly old fashioned Christian (like, 16th century old fashioned, aside from killing people from other religions and the like), so I'd probably do something to heckle those evengelicals and their annoying contemporary Jesus rock.

Now I'm seeing Christian Networking ads. Okay, the irony is getting a little much. At what point does the forum itself get done for trolling? :D

I am getting the story of Satan ads, and how you can learn about it for free.

I have "Learn Hebrew Online"

Me too.

so theres a permit for cause loud noise. prehaps you should organize a rock concert and play the "devil's music" as loud as you can over a sunday morning service. Is there a near by park at which this could occur?

Go over and party with them. Eat, drink, and praaaaaaaise Jesus!

How about playing "thank you for the music" by Abba? (there's a metal variant of it too)

Or you could just ask them to be less loud. Christians are supposed to do unto others as they would want others to do to them, right?

complain about the children could be another approach. the little ones need sleep and the music stops them from sleeping. That may be a more emotive way to change the churches mind. All you need is a 5 year old child who can put on a sad face and say they didnt sleep well due to the music

Go over and party with them. Eat, drink, and praaaaaaaise Bacchus!Fixed?
I could see myself performing a Borat, of sorts. If i had the time. I certainly have the inclination, and have done as much before.

All you need is a 5 year old child who can put on a sad face and say they didnt sleep well due to the musicGOOD idea. *bows*