NationStates Jolt Archive


What idiot is in charge of "updating" web stuff these days?

The_pantless_hero
06-11-2008, 02:13
Yahoo changes it's profiles such that they don't convey information at all, and that is if people actually do the transfer of information that Yahoo doesn't do automatically even though it should.

Facebook reorganizes its site to "improve readability" and reduces ease of use by several tens of arbitrary percents.

And now MSN "updates" the design of Hotmail so that it looks god awful and less user friendly compared to what it was.

I wasn't aware that a major tenant of Web 2.0 was "decrease in user friendliness of websites."
Barringtonia
06-11-2008, 02:14
I guess some people just aren't ready for change.
Vojvodina-Nihon
06-11-2008, 02:15
Why do you hate progress? WHY?
The_pantless_hero
06-11-2008, 02:17
Why do you hate progress? WHY?

If progress looks like crap, it's regress.
Pure Metal
06-11-2008, 02:18
is that why hotmail continually refused to load for me earlier today?
Maraque
06-11-2008, 02:19
I noticed this awful trend also.
Lord Tothe
06-11-2008, 02:20
Change for the sake of change is bad. Change needs to actually make an improvement to be worthwhile. That's why I don't like most of the change pushed on me these days (including Obama :P)

I agree that the new Hotmail is not good looking. I don't know if it also brings the claimed performance improvements. I'll need to check it from a dial-up connection soon.
Vojvodina-Nihon
06-11-2008, 02:28
If progress looks like crap, it's regress.

Nonsense. The only way you can tell it's bona-fide progress is if it looks less advanced than the previous version. After all, that obviously means it's much more functional, and they simply haven't had time to add the little comfort touches to make it look pretty. If you don't believe me, go watch some sci-fi. Star Wars has FTL travel and moon-sized space stations, but just look at their holograms!
Muravyets
06-11-2008, 05:05
I call this "freshness-itis." It's a condition that causes companies to update their packaging and/or appearance rather than improving their product, usually in a way that either causes confusion or actually really does lower functionality. They do this because some junior-league jackass with a degree in "marketing" charged them $20,000 to tell them that the consumer likes stuff to be "fresh." So they make these changes every so often to make their product/service look fresh, feel fresh, seem fresh, in order to boost sales/new sign-ups, and they will keep doing it -- and do it more as their business drops off due to customer annoyance -- until they go bankrupt.
Barringtonia
06-11-2008, 05:09
I remember all the whining when OMAC took over, new fonts, new emoticons, new etc.,

Does it really bother anyone now?

Not really.

Although I do miss time warps, I miss the opportunity to steal a thread.

I'm someone who likes constant change though, horses, courses, geese and ganders.
Wilgrove
06-11-2008, 05:14
I actually had a problem with all the updates the major sites have done.
Muravyets
06-11-2008, 05:32
I remember all the whining when OMAC took over, new fonts, new emoticons, new etc.,

Does it really bother anyone now?

Not really.

Although I do miss time warps, I miss the opportunity to steal a thread.

I'm someone who likes constant change though, horses, courses, geese and ganders.
I don't like having to spend as much time figuring out how to use my services as I spend actually using my services. I do not find mere cosmetic changes amusing, engaging, or "fresh." I find them a waste of my time and attention. Having my time and attention wasted does not endear me to a service provider. If they do it too often, I look for a different provider.

It's like the time I yelled at a Verizon rep "How did I get into a relationship with you people? I don't love you!" because of all the time and annoyance involved in just signing up for long distance service (several days including the follow-up survey I was told I had to participate in). I switched service providers soon afterwards just because I so wanted to stop having to think about Verizon.
Yootopia
06-11-2008, 05:33
Quite like the Facebook changes. Don't like the Hotmail ones at all.
Barringtonia
06-11-2008, 05:43
I don't like having to spend as much time figuring out how to use my services as I spend actually using my services. I do not find mere cosmetic changes amusing, engaging, or "fresh." I find them a waste of my time and attention. Having my time and attention wasted does not endear me to a service provider. If they do it too often, I look for a different provider.

It's like the time I yelled at a Verizon rep "How did I get into a relationship with you people? I don't love you!" because of all the time and annoyance involved in just signing up for long distance service (several days including the follow-up survey I was told I had to participate in). I switched service providers soon afterwards just because I so wanted to stop having to think about Verizon.

Monk Muravyets

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHX-SjgQvQ&feature=related
Intangelon
06-11-2008, 05:49
Possibility: they make the "new" worse so that you'll pay for the "premium" which will be the "old". Okay, probably not true, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Muravyets
06-11-2008, 05:53
Monk Muravyets

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pQHX-SjgQvQ&feature=related
Good one. :D

I especially liked the part where the medieval IT guy admits they hadn't thought of the "problem" with the user's manual. :tongue:

Anyway, in response: *looks for very simple primitive weapon that hasn't been updated in a long time; finds a big rock that has not been given a fresh, new, focus-group-approved look; beats Barringtonia over the head with it until he stops talking about how much fun new shit is; gets on with day* :)