NationStates Jolt Archive


Proposition K (San Fransisco)

Smunkeeville
05-11-2008, 19:04
Can anyone tell me if this passed or not? I tried to google, my google-kung is non-existent today.
Gift-of-god
05-11-2008, 19:31
They decided not to pass it.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/elections/local/Voters_Choose_Not_to_Legalize_Prostitution_in_San_Francisco.html

I love the way that people who have never been involved in sex work get to decide how it's conducted.
Saige Dragon
05-11-2008, 19:34
This is serious business," he said. "We're trying to clean up the Tenderloin.

I had to laugh.
Smunkeeville
05-11-2008, 19:47
They decided not to pass it.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/elections/local/Voters_Choose_Not_to_Legalize_Prostitution_in_San_Francisco.html

I love the way that people who have never been involved in sex work get to decide how it's conducted.

I was under the impression that it wasn't legalizing anything, so much as not allowing funding to go to police to investigate things like human trafficking and abusive pimps.

It would be one thing if they wanted to de-criminalize voluntary prostitution, quite another to say "hey! abuse women and children! we aren't allowed to investigate that anymore!"
Gift-of-god
05-11-2008, 19:54
I was under the impression that it wasn't legalizing anything, so much as not allowing funding to go to police to investigate things like human trafficking and abusive pimps.

It would be one thing if they wanted to de-criminalize voluntary prostitution, quite another to say "hey! abuse women and children! we aren't allowed to investigate that anymore!"

And if you had read the actual proposition, you would know that the proposition would have allowed the police to continue going after human traffickers and pimps, while stopping them from investigating voluntary prostitution. The sex workers union that put it together specifically wrote it that way.

But if you don't believe me, you can read the opinion of the public defender's office:
http://www.bayswan.org/SFInitiative08/Pub_Defender_Analysi_ProstMeasure.pdf
Newer Burmecia
05-11-2008, 20:10
Ironic that the initative and referendum was brought to the USA during the progressive era.
SaintB
05-11-2008, 20:17
Ironic that the initative and referendum was brought to the USA during the progressive era.

Progressive? You funny!
Dempublicents1
05-11-2008, 21:32
I was under the impression that it wasn't legalizing anything, so much as not allowing funding to go to police to investigate things like human trafficking and abusive pimps.

It was to decriminalize prostitution. The law basically stated that no one could be investigated, arrested, or prosecuted for selling sex.

But some people argued that the only possible way the police can investigate human trafficking and abusive pimps is by investigating prostitution, and that this law would therefore make those easier. Or something.

Never mind that, in the current situation, a prostitute who is abused can't go to the police and tell them without fearing jail time for prostitution.
Smunkeeville
05-11-2008, 21:59
Never mind that, in the current situation, a prostitute who is abused can't go to the police and tell them without fearing jail time for prostitution.

I was under the impression that even after it passed they couldn't go to the police without fearing jail time for prostitution. My browser won't download the pdf Gog linked to, so all I have is knowledge from articles I've read.
Dempublicents1
05-11-2008, 22:27
I was under the impression that even after it passed they couldn't go to the police without fearing jail time for prostitution. My browser won't download the pdf Gog linked to, so all I have is knowledge from articles I've read.

No, it specifically said they could not be investigated, arrested, or prosecuted for it. It was linked in an earlier thread, but I don't remember where the link was.