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Obama won. Clearly he was the best candidate in the field and the American people realized that. Why am I disappointed? I'm disappointed because women are still running behind. I'm disappointed because the parties persist in putting forward women who have no quality. I'm disappointed because I will very likely die before a woman is elected President.

If the parties continue to put forward the likes of Hilary and Sarah, a woman may never be elected President.

I'm disappointed because the parties think mediocre men are better than stellar women and they refuse to even recognize the best women.

Obama is not mediocre. The Democrats recognized and nominated an outstanding candidate who happened to be African-American. You'd think one of the parties could find an outstanding candidate who happened to be a woman.

damn we should have found a black woman to be the first black president.

Who, in your opinion, is an outstanding potential woman president?

Politics ain't affirmative action.

Who, in your opinion, is an outstanding potential woman president?

You know that woman dancing next to 50cent?

Yeah, that one ;)

Who, in your opinion, is an outstanding potential woman president?

ditto. I'd be interested to know, since Hillary and Pelosi are the only big name woman politicians I know of, Pelosi having about zero chance I think of winning, thought if she made it by nomination she might have won this election... I don't see why you assume Hillary sucks so much, she almost won the nomination.

Politics ain't affirmative action.

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I think Condie would make a good president

ditto. I'd be interested to know, since Hillary and Pelosi are the only big name woman politicians I know of, Pelosi having about zero chance I think of winning, thought if she made it by nomination she might have won this election... I don't see why you assume Hillary sucks so much, she almost won the nomination.

what about Condoleezza Rice ??

what about Condoleezza Rice ??

Was a Bush aide. Zero credibility. And a lap dog.


Not a chance.

Was a Bush aide. Zero credibility. And a lap dog.


Not a chance.

I was going to say Condee but than I thought of the same thing.

Obama won. Clearly he was the best candidate in the field and the American people realized that. Why am I disappointed? I'm disappointed because women are still running behind. I'm disappointed because the parties persist in putting forward women who have no quality. I'm disappointed because I will very likely die before a woman is elected President.

If the parties continue to put forward the likes of Hilary and Sarah, a woman may never be elected President.

I'm disappointed because the parties think mediocre men are better than stellar women and they refuse to even recognize the best women.

Obama is not mediocre. The Democrats recognized and nominated an outstanding candidate who happened to be African-American. You'd think one of the parties could find an outstanding candidate who happened to be a woman.

Well, historical precident states that African American males make advances before women... If it's anything like the whole voting issue, it won't be too long (relatively speaking).

I have to disagree. For everything that Clinton got, she is a brilliant, and very strong woman. I agree with more of Obama's politics, but would have had no problem with her in the white house.

What made Clinton less than Obama, or equal to Palin, in your opinion?

obama! yay

what about Condoleezza Rice ??

not really a politician, and as others have pointed out she wouldn't meet the "good candidate" condition ASD wants.

Was a Bush aide. Zero credibility. And a lap dog.


Not a chance.

but the state Department actually tends to be the lets talk to them type as advisers to the president. And they used to be the successor to the President.

Who, in your opinion, is an outstanding potential woman president?

Jennifer Granholm. *nod*

but the state Department actually tends to be the lets talk to them type as advisers to the president. And they used to be the successor to the President.Still are, just after a few other people.

I CAN NOT believe obama won!! He is the anti-christ, he has to be.

I'm a little disappointed too. Here I was expecting us to make history by electing 44 consecutive white presidents.

Now we have to start ALL OVER.

Jennifer Granholm. *nod*

Canadian born...

I CAN NOT believe obama won!! He is the anti-christ, he has to be.
...really? I mean...seriously?

I CAN NOT believe obama won!! He is the anti-christ, he has to be.

If he was the anti-Christ, you wouldnt know it.


I dont think most Christians have read their own book.

Still are, just after a few other people.

Now state governors, Senators and former successful Generals tend to be more likely.

...really? I mean...seriously?

Dude, we have four years of this to look foward to.


Im going to love every minute of it.

Dude, we have four years of this to look foward to.


Im going to love every minute of it.

the annoying part is when they get guns...
People just get over it and reelected him or elect someone else based off of how well he does.

Dude, we have four years of this to look foward to.


Im going to love every minute of it.I can imagine the looks on people's faces tomorrow!
Oh, man. I'm going to have a fucking blast! :D

Canadian born...

:eek: :(

Yet one more hope dashed by Canada. :(

The United States will crumble and fall right before our eyes under his leadership.

The United States will crumble and fall right before our eyes under his leadership.

IT Will not. the worst that might happen is he is a Carter. The best might be he is a Reagan.

The United States will crumble and fall right before our eyes under his leadership.

Keep it coming.

:eek: :(

Yet one more hope dashed by Canada. :(

All you have to do is alter the constitution.

Just make it so that they only have to be born on land that is currently part of the USA, then invade Canada. It's the simplest solution to the problem.

well lets see what obama can do. after all since the democrates control everthing he won't have any excuse for not getting things done.

well lets see what obama can do. after all since the democrates control everthing he won't have any excuse for not getting things done.

Doesn't have a supermajority, yet.

Well im sorry i have more common sense than this country. he will be assassinated then biden will be president and what would the difference of been between biden and McCain.....everything!! I knew about McCain before the election but had never heard of Biden before the election. oh and im sorry im not old enough to know how carter or reagan did.

If he was the anti-Christ, you wouldnt know it.


I dont think most Christians have read their own book.

I'm a Messianic Jew, but I believe there is no one anti-Christ... A quick study of history shows that anti-Christs have risen and fallen since the death of Christ (namely, Caligula, Nero, etc.) The book of Revelation isn't all just going to happen, the stuff in there has already happened, the only thing yet to happen is the actual return of Christ.

You're also right, I find too many Christians don't read the Bible... If Senior Class (I think that's his name) did, he would know that leaders rise and fall by the will of God... Even if we don't like who he puts in charge.

For once we have a little bit of common ground, KoL, this is surely a sign of the end times.

but he does have a majority. besides which isn't a super majority a dictatorship?

but he does have a majority. besides which isn't a super majority a dictatorship?

The Republicans can still filibuster and blockthings that way.

And no.

Dude, we have four years of this to look foward to.


Im going to love every minute of it.

Me too! Oh, and on topic - Barbara Boxer! Let's recall the "Boxer Rebellion".

Well im sorry i have more common sense than this country/

Doubt it.

he will be assassinated then biden will be president and what would the difference of been between biden and McCain.....everything!!


Id like to think not.

I knew about McCain before the election but had never heard of Biden before the election.

Your ignorance means nothing.

oh and im sorry im not old enough to know how carter or reagan did.

Being young is not an excuse to be ignorant. Im 21, and I know how both of them did, despite not being alive during Carter or old enough to walk during Reagan.

but he does have a majority. besides which isn't a super majority a dictatorship?

close enough

you can't filibuster if you don't have enough people

close enough

you can't filibuster if you don't have enough people

22. Combined. At best. Any takers?

22. Combined. At best. Any takers?

Are we guessing age?

hey reality check....im 17 and dont really care, these are my parents view forced onto me and im just doing what i was told to....so call me whatever its your own, but get to know a person before you judge them.

hey reality check....im 17 and dont really care, these are my parents view forced onto me and im just doing what i was told to....so call me whatever its your own, but get to know a person before you judge them.

The fact that youre just parroting your (ignorant) parent's (ignorant) views, and dont bother researching and forming an opinion for yourself does not speak highly of you, nor does it excuse you.

I like how he talked about self-reliance.

well i'm a bit older than that :-)

hey reality check....im 17 and dont really care, these are my parents view forced onto me and im just doing what i was told to....so call me whatever its your own, but get to know a person before you judge them.

At 17 you should be in full blown rebellion against everything your parents stand for. What's wrong with you?

hey reality check....im 17 and dont really care, these are my parents view forced onto me and im just doing what i was told to....so call me whatever its your own, but get to know a person before you judge them.Hey, news flash. I'm seventeen, but, while I'm not the greatest arguer, researcher, or the most informed, I do put forward effort to rectify this.
Age is no excuse.

At 17 you should be in full blown rebellion against everything your parents stand for. What's wrong with you?...Something's wrong with me. :(

The fact that youre just parroting your (ignorant) parent's (ignorant) views, and dont bother researching and forming an opinion for yourself does not speak highly of you, nor does it excuse you.

You are very nieve, i do have my own opinion. BOTH OF THEM SUCK AND BOTH SHOULD FALL OVER DEAD!!!! ok all we have are liars for politicians who dont give a rats ass about us. they just want to win and then get us more in debt. they may not do it intentionaly but eveyone knows it, they just dont want to believe it. i couldnt vote is why i dont really care to voice my parents opinion. ok, anything else you want to put me down for??

hey reality check....im 17 and dont really care, these are my parents view forced onto me and im just doing what i was told to....so call me whatever its your own, but get to know a person before you judge them.

I like how he talked about self-reliance.

since when is this country about self-reliance? it's always someone elses fault and who's gonna bail me out. he's gonna be more of the same.

All you have to do is alter the constitution.

Just make it so that they only have to be born on land that is currently part of the USA, then invade Canada. It's the simplest solution to the problem.

But like a newly hatched bird imprinting on it's mother as the first thing it sees, a child must see an American Flag first so as to be a American enough to lead us. Those that are moved here at a young age by their families looking for opportunity or looking themselves and becoming an American Citizen are clearly not as patriotic as those ejected from vaginas within our borders. *nod*

nothings wrong with me but i do want a place to live. wouldnt you if they threatend to send you off all the time??

You are very nieve, i do have my own opinion. BOTH OF THEM SUCK AND BOTH SHOULD FALL OVER DEAD!!!! ok all we have are liars for politicians who dont give a rats ass about us. they just want to win and then get us more in debt. they may not do it intentionaly but eveyone knows it, they just dont want to believe it. i couldnt vote is why i dont really care to voice my parents opinion. ok, anything else you want to put me down for??

Yeah, this post. Its pathetic.

You are very nieve, i do have my own opinion. BOTH OF THEM SUCK AND BOTH SHOULD FALL OVER DEAD!!!! ok all we have are liars for politicians who dont give a rats ass about us. they just want to win and then get us more in debt. they may not do it intentionaly but eveyone knows it, they just dont want to believe it. i couldnt vote is why i dont really care to voice my parents opinion. ok, anything else you want to put me down for??

Ok, dear. Put your head between your knees and take a deep breath. That's right. Calm down. Getting emotional when someone calls you on something isn't going to help. And if you do it as a matter of course, you aren't going to last very long. You could have a long, fruitful, amusing stay here or you could burn out fast - it's up to you.

i would like a place to stay...wouldnt you if your parents were always threatening to kick you out. i dont rebel for that reason. and if i told them my opinion id be history too.

:eek: :(

Yet one more hope dashed by Canada. :(

MUAHAHAHAHA!! Canada strikes again!

*twirls mustache and then flees into the night*

this world doesn't want me anyway so why would you guys. sorry for all the trouble...bye

I have to disagree. For everything that Clinton got, she is a brilliant, and very strong woman. I agree with more of Obama's politics, but would have had no problem with her in the white house.

My feelings exactly. Putting Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin in the same category is really insulting.

IT Will not. the worst that might happen is he is a Carter. The best might be he is a Reagan.

What the fucking fuck?

But like a newly hatched bird imprinting on it's mother as the first thing it sees, a child must see an American Flag first so as to be a American enough to lead us. Those that are moved here at a young age by their families looking for opportunity or looking themselves and becoming an American Citizen are clearly not as patriotic as those ejected from vaginas within our borders. *nod*

amen

Obama is not mediocre. The Democrats recognized and nominated an outstanding candidate who happened to be African-American. You'd think one of the parties could find an outstanding candidate who happened to be a woman.

Many parties did. Some were even female AND blackskinned.
Just not the two big ones.

But would you like a party to pick an outstanding female over an outstanding male, just because she is female ?

:eek: :(

Yet one more hope dashed by Canada. :(

During her 2002 election the MIGOP's entire campaign against her consisted of "She's from Canada! She was raised in California!"

Are we guessing age?
What else

Sorry. I'm being mean. Blame my roommate for getting pissy about the election. Which I am celebrating. But not gloating. so there.
My feelings exactly. Putting Hillary Clinton and Sarah Palin in the same category is really insulting.
This. Hillary is far from a stupid or uninformed woman. I don't doubt that Palin was thrown to the sharks well before she was ready, and don't doubt that she is intelligent. Uninformed, but not unintelligent.

Many parties did. Some were even female AND blackskinned.
Just not the two big ones.

But would you like a party to pick an outstanding female over an outstanding male, just because she is female ?

Actually, the first female candidate was nominated before women had the right to vote (Victoria Woodhull ran in 1872.)

nothings wrong with me but i do want a place to live. wouldnt you if they threatend to send you off all the time??

All Hail Republican education! "I said vote for McCain damn it, or yer going off to Boarding School for yer Senior Year, Yarrr!" Made me chuckle.

As for rebelling, didn't really need to rebel against my parents: ok teens listen up, here's what you do: you learn the basics of Portfolio management from library books (not as hard as people make it, but they don't want you to not pay for an MBA - so they b/s) and manage your parents' portfolios. Let's just say I had a very nice bargaining cheap as to how late I could stay out during party nights. And Prom Nights - I didn't really need to come home. And if I was drunk (rarely happened - high alcohol tolerance) I could just call my dad to pick me up.

Edit: back to my earlier claim, what's wrong with Boxer 2016?

But not gloating. so there.

"It's not even good beer. It's Pabst Blue Ribbon. A beer for serious reflection."

"It's not even good beer. It's Pabst Blue Ribbon. A beer for serious reflection."

Shut up. It was totally bud light.




...So there.

I certainly disagree Obama was the best candidate in the field, to each his own, his democratic right. McCain was the best candidate in the field. I actually cried at John McCain's loss. I have not cried since loosing Lobo the II. Lobo-Wolf, the name sounds more natural in spanish for a dog than in english. Lobo the German Sheppard Dog, rest in peace my loyal friends, I & II.

McCain came fairly close in the national vote but not in the electoral votes which really count, sad for MCCain, no matter what you all may think or say that is my right.

IT Will not. the worst that might happen is he is a Carter. The best might be he is a Reagan.

Err..... Reagan? If he were still around I wouldn't let him touch the U.S.A economy with a 3m pole.

Obama is not mediocre. The Democrats recognized and nominated an outstanding candidate who happened to be African-American. You'd think one of the parties could find an outstanding candidate who happened to be a woman.

If Palin had Obama's views and was a Democrat, she would be President.

Clinton was not even remotely comparable to Palin. Her problem was that she came at the wrong time: the same year Barack Obama decided to make his run.

this world doesn't want me anyway so why would you guys. sorry for all the trouble...bye

Oh dear God... Teen angst. *twitch*

damn we should have found a black woman to be the first black president.

An interesting fact: A Harvard law professor who knew both Barack Obama and his wife said that he actually thought Michelle was the one who would run for a major office.

In response to the OP, I agree with some of of what you said--Palin was a horrible choice and putting out women such as she does no good--but there's no sense in feeling disappointed right now; be happy for the progress that the U.S. has just made. We cannot expect everything that should happen to happen all at once. Change is progressive, not instantaneous. If anything, the election of an African American President foreshadows future social advancement in America.

Clinton was not even remotely comparable to Palin. Her problem was that she came at the wrong time: the same year Barack Obama decided to make his run.

Agreed.