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Hate.

Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 20:35
Why is everybody so anti-hate? It's stunningly underrrated these days. I'm pro-hate, I like to get my fill. I hate as many things as I possibly can.

What's wrong with hate? Why does everyone have to be so positive about everything? If greed, as Michael Douglas said, is good, why not hate?
greed and death
31-10-2008, 20:36
Hatred is illogical. Now anger that it a useful source of energy in times of need.
Zilam
31-10-2008, 20:36
Seriously?
Farflorin
31-10-2008, 20:36
Because "hate" is associated with racism and other unpleasant '-isms'.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 20:38
Because "hate" is associated with racism and other unpleasant '-isms'.

What's wrong with racism? I'm pro-white, because I am white. I don't trust other races because they're different, the same way I don't trust other religions, nations, football clubs or pretty much any other people. If you keep your "-isms" bottled up, it's unhealthy, you'll end up with really angry children.
Zilam
31-10-2008, 20:39
What's wrong with racism? I'm pro-white, because I am white. I don't trust other races because they're different, the same way I don't trust other religions, nations, football clubs or pretty much any other people. If you keep your "-isms" bottled up, it's unhealthy.


Why don't you trust them? They have the same needs, desires, hopes and wishes as you do.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 20:40
Why don't you trust them? They have the same needs, desires, hopes and wishes as you do.

Yeah, and all of those needs, desires, hopes and wishes involve trampling on mine at best, or putting me in a concentration camp at worst.
Free Soviets
31-10-2008, 20:40
If greed, as Michael Douglas said, is good, why not hate?

you seem to have missed both the point and the fictional nature of that film...
Zilam
31-10-2008, 20:40
Yeah, and all of those needs, desires, hopes and wishes involve trampling on mine.

Says who?
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 20:41
you seem to have missed both the point and the fictional nature of that film...

To be honest, I never watched it, I just saw the quote. It made sense to me.
Sdaeriji
31-10-2008, 20:42
Hate is a waste of time. It accomplishes nothing except to raise your blood pressure. If you go through your life hating a great many things, you are spending time that could be better spent doing something useful, like bettering yourself.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 20:42
Says who?

It's usually some jerkass organisation run by those guys.
Khadgar
31-10-2008, 20:43
Says who?

I find it more interesting that he believes that in a state of such conflict his own wants are automatically more valid than any others.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 20:43
Hate is a waste of time. It accomplishes nothing except to raise your blood pressure. If you go through your life hating a great many things, you are spending time that could be better spent doing something useful, like bettering yourself.

One of the things I hate is myself. I gave up on bettering myself long ago, and learnt to hate what I have now.
JuNii
31-10-2008, 20:43
Without Hate, there can be no Lust.. er... love. ;)
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 20:44
I find it more interesting that he believes that in a state of such conflict his own wants are automatically more valid than any others.

Well, since I'm me, and they're not me... yeah.
Augmark
31-10-2008, 20:45
Hate is the human condition(it sure explains alot). There will always be hate, but there will be less, as we come to understand more about each other.
Zilam
31-10-2008, 20:46
For me, anger and hate go hand in hand as no-nos. I take both what Christ said "If you have hated your brother, it is as if you have killed him" and what the stoics, such as Seneca, said which goes along the lines of Anger is illogical. I find myself a much better, happier, and healthier person because of it.
Sdaeriji
31-10-2008, 20:46
One of the things I hate is myself. I gave up on bettering myself long ago, and learnt to hate what I have now.

But what does hating get you? What's the point in hating? It accomplishes nothing. All the time and energy you waste hating could be spent getting yourself a better job or a hotter girlfriend or more toys.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 20:47
But what does hating get you? What's the point in hating? It accomplishes nothing. All the time and energy you waste hating could be spent getting yourself a better job or a hotter girlfriend or more toys.

It's a good self-defence mechanism. When you realise that there is no such thing as a trustworthy person, you'll live longer.
JuNii
31-10-2008, 20:47
I like how everyone associates Hate(red) with people.

Hatred can be used positivly. to enforce a desire to not be in certain situations or to endevor to get out of certain predicaments.

"I hate being poor"
"I hate not having a choice given to me"
"I hate Reality T.V."
"I hate to be homeless"

why automatically assume it's about people?
Sdaeriji
31-10-2008, 20:51
It's a good self-defence mechanism. When you realise that there is no such thing as a trustworthy person, you'll live longer.

There's a gulf between having a healthy amount of skepticism and hatred.
Farflorin
31-10-2008, 20:51
What's wrong with racism? I'm pro-white, because I am white. I don't trust other races because they're different, the same way I don't trust other religions, nations, football clubs or pretty much any other people. If you keep your "-isms" bottled up, it's unhealthy, you'll end up with really angry children.

If you have to ask 'what's wrong with racism', then there's little hope for you as a member of society. If you can't comprehend why it's wrong it's probably time you bone up on your history and learn just what racism does to humanity. Distrusting people because of their race is small-minded and petty; distrusting people because the person or group of persons has done something rather than simply exist is another matter entirely.

Lumping football clubs and other recreational activities in with racism and other issues shows you have little compassion and understanding of the issue because you're writing it off so readily.

Ageism, sexism, racism; just a few of the '-isms' that are fuelled by blind hatred. Don't get me wrong, however, hate isn't necessarily a bad thing; it can be healthy just like cynicism. In small moderate doses of course. It's hate that motivated by race, religion, ethnicity et cetera that's bad.

From your post, I can see you've never experienced racism, because if you actually had, you wouldn't spout such backwater nonsense.

Now if you're hating them because they're bad drivers, well, that's fine because EVERYONE hates bad drivers. ;) Or even hating everyone is fine - it's equal. But hating for reasons beyond a person's control is illogical.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
31-10-2008, 20:53
you seem to have missed both the point and the fictional nature of that film...
Pffh. The point of Wall Street was that Gordon Gekko, like every character played by Michael Douglas, was awesome, and Bud Fox, like every character played by Charlie Sheen, was an asshole and deserved to die.
Sdaeriji
31-10-2008, 20:55
Pffh. The point of Wall Street was that Gordon Gekko, like every character played by Michael Douglas, was awesome, and Bud Fox, like every character played by Charlie Sheen, was an asshole and deserved to die.

http://saraschaefer.com/ss/falling_down.jpg

Truth.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 20:56
If you have to ask 'what's wrong with racism', then there's little hope for you as a member of society. If you can't comprehend why it's wrong it's probably time you bone up on your history and learn just what racism does to humanity. Distrusting people because of their race is small-minded and petty; distrusting people because the person or group of persons has done something rather than simply exist is another matter entirely.

You don't get to choose your race, but that doesn't stop you from trying to bring down the other races. That's why I don't trust any of the others.

Lumping football clubs and other recreational activities in with racism and other issues shows you have little compassion and understanding of the issue because you're writing it off so readily.

I assume you're American, so I'll let that one slide.

From your post, I can see you've never experienced racism, because if you actually had, you wouldn't spout such backwater nonsense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wog#As_an_ethnic_reference_in_Australian

Uh-huh.
H N Fiddlebottoms VIII
31-10-2008, 20:59
http://saraschaefer.com/ss/falling_down.jpg

Truth.
Exactly what I was thinking of! You, sir, are a mind reader.
Your post could only have been made more uncanny by a picture of Charlie Sheen from the abysmal Two and A Half Men.
Ssek
31-10-2008, 21:01
Hatred is defined in the Penguin Dictionary of Psychology as "deep, enduring, intense emotion expressing animosity, anger, and hostility towards a person, group, or object."

I don't see why this would be a good thing for a person; it's obviously stressful, draining and unhealthy.

It's a good self-defence mechanism. When you realise that there is no such thing as a trustworthy person, you'll live longer.

Sorry, no. Hatred is not a self-defence mechanism, and here you seem to be confusing hatred with paranoia. Neither is "good."

What's wrong with racism? I'm pro-white, because I am white. I don't trust other races because they're different, the same way I don't trust other religions, nations, football clubs or pretty much any other people. If you keep your "-isms" bottled up, it's unhealthy, you'll end up with really angry children.

Racism is unhealthy. And you yourself sound rather angry, and by your own definition you're paranoid. You have no credibility whatsoever on what is or isn't healthy.
Knights of Liberty
31-10-2008, 21:02
Oh Rusty, this thread just sums up why no one can take you seriously.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:07
Racism is unhealthy. And you yourself sound rather angry, and by your own definition you're paranoid. You have no credibility whatsoever on what is or isn't healthy.

What's wrong with paranoia? I'll be safe while you're working in a slave labour camp for some religious nut, oversexed warlord or smartass demigogue.
Khadgar
31-10-2008, 21:11
Oh Rusty, this thread just sums up why no one can take you seriously.

Noticed yet that he doesn't come online before 3:30 PM EDT?
Ssek
31-10-2008, 21:12
What's wrong with paranoia?

It's foolish and unhealthful.

I'll be safe while you're working in a slave labour camp for some religious nut, oversexed warlord or smartass demigogue.

No, you'll be in your cabin, huddling yourself in a fetal position, twitching and batting away imaginary insects from your eyes, until you die alone.

I'm so envious, I am.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:13
Noticed yet that he doesn't come online before 3:30 PM EDT?

Your point?
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:13
No, you'll be in your cabin, huddling yourself in a fetal position, twitching and batting away imaginary insects from your eyes, until you die alone.

I'm so envious, I am.

Have fun, slave.
Fartsniffage
31-10-2008, 21:18
Have fun, slave.

What do you mean, slave?

You're a different race from me so it'll be my jackboot grinding your face into the ground.
Ssek
31-10-2008, 21:19
Have fun, slave.

You've shown that you're racist, paranoid and hateful. But you haven't shown how your problems mean I'll become a sweat shop slave; you can't, because there is no way your symptoms even relate to my life at all.

And if your ability to argue is any evidence, I'd say you were the poster boy of why racism, paranoia and hatred are unhealthful and foolish.
Dorksonian
31-10-2008, 21:21
Now I've seen it all.
Knights of Liberty
31-10-2008, 21:22
Noticed yet that he doesn't come online before 3:30 PM EDT?

I dont get the relevence...
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:23
What do you mean, slave?

You're a different race from me so it'll be my jackboot grinding your face into the ground.

Not unless I shoot you first.

You've shown that you're racist, paranoid and hateful. But you haven't shown how your problems mean I'll become a sweat shop slave; you can't, because there is no way your symptoms even relate to my life at all.

If you're that naive, you'll end up on the losing end of a psychotic regime, and to be fair, you probably deserve it.
Shilah
31-10-2008, 21:25
Why is everybody so anti-hate? It's stunningly underrrated these days. I'm pro-hate, I like to get my fill. I hate as many things as I possibly can.

What's wrong with hate? Why does everyone have to be so positive about everything? If greed, as Michael Douglas said, is good, why not hate?

Who's anti-hate? As far as I'm aware it's alive and kickin'!
Fartsniffage
31-10-2008, 21:25
Not unless I shoot you first.

Nah, the guns I know how to use outrange yours.
Yootopia
31-10-2008, 21:25
I am a hate-hater!

Wait... shit...
JuNii
31-10-2008, 21:26
I am a hate-hater!

Wait... shit...

you hateist you! :mad: :p
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:27
Who's anti-hate? As far as I'm aware it's alive and kickin'!

Yes, aren't the Neo-Nazis brilliant? I can't say I like or trust them, but in the greater scheme of things, they're closer allies than anybody else on this Earth.
Fartsniffage
31-10-2008, 21:29
There is a great quote from Rocky III pertaining to your world view Rusty.

Paulie: [referring to African-Americans ] I don't like these people.
Rocky Balboa: You don't like em'? Well maybe they don't like you either Paulie.
Paulie: [in awe] What'd I ever do to them?
Rocky Balboa: [looks at Adrian] And they call ME "Punchy"
Ssek
31-10-2008, 21:31
If you're that naive

I'm not. I'm right. Your mental dysfunction is in no way an argument in favor of me becoming anyone's slave. Period.

, you'll end up on the losing end of a psychotic regime, and to be fair, you probably deserve it.

Now you're just plain trolling.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:31
There is a great quote from Rocky III pertaining to your world view Rusty.

That sums it up pretty well. They don't like me, I don't like them. Or, more aptly, I don't like them because they don't like me.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:32
Now you're just plain trolling.

I'm just saying, you run around with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears, who's fault is it when you get hit by a bus?
Fartsniffage
31-10-2008, 21:35
That sums it up pretty well. They don't like me, I don't like them. Or, more aptly, I don't like them because they don't like me.

You're reading it backwards. ;)
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:36
I'm not. I'm right. Your mental dysfunction is in no way an argument in favor of me becoming anyone's slave. Period.

Hey, what if I am crazy, PC boy? What about my freedom to be crazy, huh?
Ssek
31-10-2008, 21:37
I'm just saying, you run around with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears, who's fault is it when you get hit by a bus?

No, you're saying, "I'm a racist, paranoid bigot, and anyone who disagrees with me is naive and deserves enslavement. Everyone look at me!"

I am not going to feed you anymore.
Knights of Liberty
31-10-2008, 21:38
What about my freedom to be crazy, huh?

Doesnt exist.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:38
No, you're saying, "I'm a racist, paranoid bigot, and anyone who disagrees with me is naive and deserves enslavement. Everyone look at me!"

I am not going to feed you anymore.

Whatever suits you.
Tau-53
31-10-2008, 21:38
Hey, what if I am crazy, PC boy? What about my freedom to be crazy, huh?

Well in this society you're free to be anything as long as you aren't crazy or something-ist... That's why society sucks =[
Sdaeriji
31-10-2008, 21:39
I'm just saying, you run around with your eyes closed and your fingers in your ears, who's fault is it when you get hit by a bus?

The bus driver. Analogy fails.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:39
Doesnt exist.

Maybe in your country. I don't subscribe to your nation. I don't even like your nation.
No Names Left Damn It
31-10-2008, 21:39
Yeah, and all of those needs, desires, hopes and wishes involve trampling on mine at best, or putting me in a concentration camp at worst.

I see.
Knights of Liberty
31-10-2008, 21:40
Maybe in your country. I don't subscribe to your nation. I don't even like your nation.

You dont get the right to be crazy here is what I mean.
Ferrous Oxide
31-10-2008, 21:43
You dont get the right to be crazy here is what I mean.

You assume I'm the crazy one. Maybe I'm the only sane one?

I'm going to bed. If I'm still feeling like this tomorrow... then poo.
Knights of Liberty
31-10-2008, 21:43
You assume I'm the crazy one. Maybe I'm the only sane one?

There is nothing wrong with me! Its everyone else!
Frisbeeteria
31-10-2008, 21:47
Not unless I shoot you first.

If you're that naive, you'll end up on the losing end of a psychotic regime, and to be fair, you probably deserve it.
Over the line

Hey, what if I am crazy, PC boy? What about my freedom to be crazy, huh?
Doesn't exist on this site.

You assume I'm the crazy one. Maybe I'm the only sane one?

I'm going to bed. If I'm still feeling like this tomorrow... then poo.
If you're still feeling like trolling tomorrow, pick another game to troll.

Thread closed.