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Okay. Due to the not-so-recent rash of people attacking Obama as a socialist without actually proving it, and using "socialism" to define any health care bigger than zero, I decided I might as well make up this game: We pick a random type of ideologue and assign those views to each candidate or their VPs on snippets of idiotic pseudo-evidence.

For instance:

McCain is a socialist! He wants Government to spy on people just like socialists do!

Obama's a Monarchist! He wants to be a leader and he believes in a god! And he wants his daughters to have the opportunity to be the leaders too!

So, any suggestions?

McCain is a white supremicist!

He doesn't want a black man to be President!

Obama is a black supremacist, he wants to be president.

McCain is a white supremicist!

He doesn't want a black man to be President!

NICE ONE!

Real good! :D

McCain is a sadist! He wants to whip Palin. :eek:

McCain is a sadist! He wants to whip Palin. :eek:

Don't we all.......?
















;)

Don't we all.......?

Erm, no. She scares me. Besides, there are other ladies I want to whip... :D

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Belschaft, I wanna be your prophet. I have an idea for a Haruhiism-style religion: Claiming anyone can be a god.

McCain is a communist! He dennounced America! And stayed in Communist hotels!

Whats the matter... too true?

McCain is a xenophoibic facist who doesnt know the Cold War is over.


Oh, we're supposed to say things that are jokes?

Belschaft, I wanna be your prophet. I have an idea for a Haruhiism-style religion: Claiming anyone can be a god.

What miracles have you performed recently?

McCain is clearly an extra-terrestrial. He's from Arizona, which is right next to New Mexico, which is where ROSWELL!!! is. He's also from Arizona, which is right next to Nevada, which is where AREA 51!!! is. Further, he's from Arizona, which is where the documentary Alien Invasion Arizona (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Invasion_Arizona) occurs. Finally, according to this CNN article (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/12/22/immigrants.leave.ap/index.html), Arizona is currently having problems with aliens, which, as you may or may not know, is where McCain is from.

I rest my case.

Obama is the Anti-Christ because he is of unknown middle-eastern decent, he wishes to withdrawal all US forces and negotiate with terrorist governments, will bring down the Empire from within, has received financial campaign contributions from Palestine, draws record global support from a speech in Berlin as nothing more than a canidate, and is on the brink of being President based soley on his Charismatic influence, regardless of the fact that we truly know NOTHING about him!

Oh wait... I was supposed to make a joke...

References: Bible - Book of Revelations

Oh wait... I was supposed to make a joke...

Don't worry, you did.

Obama is the Anti-Christ because he is of unknown middle-eastern decent, he wishes to withdrawal all US forces and negotiate with terrorist governments, will bring down the Empire from within, has received financial campaign contributions from Palestine, draws record global support from a speech in Berlin as nothing more than a canidate, and is on the brink of being President based soley on his Charismatic influence, [bregardless of the fact that we truly know NOTHING about him![/b]

Oh wait... I was supposed to make a joke...

References: Bible - Book of Revelations


Ok, bolded first. See, if you really know nothing about him, youve been living in a fucking cave for the past year. Hes been all over the media and has two books.

If you really want to correct your terrifying ignorance (and I suspect you dont) read up jr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Now to your main "claim". If Obama was the anti-Christ, all you Christian wing-nuts would love him. In fact, everyone is supposed to love him. Thats whats supposidly so scary about the anti-Christ. No one knows who he is. If you think someone is the anti-Christ, hes not.

You fail. GTFO.

Now to your main "claim". If Obama was the anti-Christ, all you Christian wing-nuts would love him. In fact, everyone is supposed to love him. Thats whats supposidly so scary about the anti-Christ. No one knows who he is. If you think someone is the anti-Christ, hes not.

You fail. GTFO.

Alternatively, only God is supposed to know the time and manner of the onset of the events of Revelations (if I remember correctly). Ergo, Slaffnevik Empires (and all the others who are on to Obama) are God.

So either they're wrong because they don't actually know, or they're God because they actually do know. I can't decide which is more likely. :rolleyes:

Now to your main "claim". If Obama was the anti-Christ, all you Christian wing-nuts would love him. In fact, everyone is supposed to love him. Thats whats supposidly so scary about the anti-Christ. No one knows who he is. If you think someone is the anti-Christ, hes not.


So that means that Palin's the anti-Christ? Because you either like or ideology or want to do "naughty things" to her, or both whatever...

So that means that Palin's the anti-Christ? Because you either like or ideology or want to do "naughty things" to her, or both whatever...

The vast majority of people are supposed to like the anti-Christ (and most people hate Palin) and its supposed to be someone no one supsects.


It was pobably Regan.

psshhhh its allabout bristol palin!

McCain is a xenophoibic facist who doesnt know the Cold War is over.

The perfect representative for the American people, then?

Palin is a Stalinist, she can see Russia from her window!

*cough* Reverend Wright *cough* *cough* oh man something horribly loony was stuck in my throat, man, anything is even related to that phlegm must be just as bad. HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS ARE MORONS!!! HE SUPPORTED HIM FOR 20 YEARS!!!

Ok, bolded first. See, if you really know nothing about him, youve been living in a fucking cave for the past year. Hes been all over the media and has two books.

If you really want to correct your terrifying ignorance (and I suspect you dont) read up jr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Now to your main "claim". If Obama was the anti-Christ, all you Christian wing-nuts would love him. In fact, everyone is supposed to love him. Thats whats supposidly so scary about the anti-Christ. No one knows who he is. If you think someone is the anti-Christ, hes not.

You fail. GTFO.

Get 'em killer

*cough* Reverend Wright *cough* *cough* oh man something horribly loony was stuck in my throat, man, anything is even related to that phlegm must be just as bad. HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS ARE MORONS!!! HE SUPPORTED HIM FOR 20 YEARS!!!

Wow, such an on topic post. If you really want to get your ass handed to you and all your points utterly destroyed, we have a whole different thread for that, the General Election thread.

But, Ill leave you with the guy McCain supported: http://www.jhm.org/ME2/Default.asp

The guy who called for the extermination of Islam and said that Hitler was doing God's will.

And then there is Palin's minister: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0utkTp7DTw

So, I wouldnt be calling other people morons kid.

*cough* Reverend Wright *cough* *cough* oh man something horribly loony was stuck in my throat, man, anything is even related to that phlegm must be just as bad. HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS ARE MORONS!!! HE SUPPORTED HIM FOR 20 YEARS!!!


Palin is now protected from Witchcraft (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg)

Before you respond with "WELL THE WITCHES WILL CURSE HER HOLY CHRISTIAN BODY!"

I'd like to redirect you to the Wiccan reede.

http://www.freewebs.com/tuulikkiwicca/rede2.gif

I'm just saying that some guy who supports a "kill whitey and damn America" nut case and then cuts ties when it is convenient is pretty blatant. Come on, why are we even voting for someone who wants to "damn America" even more. And to top this off I *know* that I'll get killed on posts because I don't spend hours arguing with people that I can't even see. And no, I don't believe in any crazy Wiccan beliefs in any shape or form.

I'm just saying that some guy who supports a "kill whitey and damn America" nut case and then cuts ties when it is convenient is pretty blatant. Come on, why are we even voting for someone who wants to "damn America" even more. And to top this off I *know* that I'll get killed on posts because I don't spend hours arguing with people that I can't even see. And no, I don't believe in any crazy Wiccan beliefs in any shape or form.

You utterly missed the point of Rev. Wrights sermons (which all indication shows that those sermons were a minority), as well as my post and Wilgroves.


Plus, if you dont understand Rev. Wrights anger, you dont understand history and race relations.

But, this has all been said...several times.

Okay. Due to the not-so-recent rash of people attacking Obama as a socialist without actually proving it, and using "socialism" to define any health care bigger than zero, I decided I might as well make up this game: We pick a random type of ideologue and assign those views to each candidate or their VPs on snippets of idiotic pseudo-evidence.

For instance:

McCain is a socialist! He wants Government to spy on people just like socialists do!

Obama's a Monarchist! He wants to be a leader and he believes in a god! And he wants his daughters to have the opportunity to be the leaders too!

So, any suggestions?
If that's the rational for calling Obama a socialist, then it's wrong. If we accept that a tenet of socialism is the concept that promotes equal distribution of wealth by eliminating private property, we have a winner. Both of them are socialists. We also see that both buy into the idea that it is proper for government to own and tightly control businesses, e.g. the "bailout".

Neither has repudiated the idea that our property belongs to us and not to the government. Neither has called for fewer government programs that now exist. The only difference is in how fast they want to expand the concept.

If that's the rational for calling Obama a socialist, then it's wrong. If we accept that a tenet of socialism is the concept that promotes equal distribution of wealth by eliminating private property, we have a winner.

See, I havent heard Obama call for the elimination of private property.


But, you know, that darn reality...

And then there is Palin's minister: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0utkTp7DTw

So, I wouldnt be calling other people morons kid.

And don't forget her other political party: http://www.akip.org/conv08.html

That's the one founded by Joe "I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." Vogler...

I'm just saying that some guy who supports a "kill whitey and damn America" nut case and then cuts ties when it is convenient is pretty blatant. Come on, why are we even voting for someone who wants to "damn America" even more. And to top this off I *know* that I'll get killed on posts because I don't spend hours arguing with people that I can't even see. And no, I don't believe in any crazy Wiccan beliefs in any shape or form.

I'd answer but really this was barely worth my time to read. One single point. BACK IT UP. If your going to make bullshit claims (like that one) then at least TRY to find some sort of evidence to back up your opinion. Your not gonna be able too cause it doesn't exist but even that might tip you off to the fact that your idea might not be so right after all. (yes I know I said I wasn't gonna waste my time but if it saves you from posting spurious nonsense down the road then all well and good.)

McCain is raging sexist as he hasn't stepped down to let Palin take over his candidacy. and so is Obama cos he didn't let Clinton win.

References: Bible - Book of Revelations

My word counts more than the Bible.

My word counts more than the Bible.

Suuure. :p

GOP operatives are desperately trying to suppress the spreading rumors that Republican presidential candidate John McCain is the agent of a foreign power. Could John McCain really be a "Manchurian candidate" for the government of Australia? His middle name is Sidney, after all. Or is that Sydney?
The similarity between McCain's middle name and the name of the Australian port city may seem like a coincidence, an accident of birth like the name Barack Hussein Obama, but maybe not. Could John McCain's middle name actually be a clue to shadowy and arcane forces covertly working through the senator from Arizona to manipulate world affairs?

Let's start with what we know and then move to what we surmise.

A Navy Cover-Up?

John Sidney McCain III was born in 1936 in the Panama Canal Zone at the U.S. military hospital where chief petty officer Popeye Bluto Hornblower was in charge of the records section. Hornblower was ordered to walk the plank in 1943 after he violated war secrecy laws by revealing that personnel records were falsified by order of an unknown admiral inside the Pentagon.

The relevant information is found on page 835 in Hornblower's largely forgotten Pulitzer-prize winning memoir, I Was a Paper Pusher for the USN, published posthumously. In a passing reference to how he begrudged the drudgery of his work, Hornblower recalled a tedious assignment to retype every copy of all naval records (in triplicate) pertaining to the newborn son, father and grandfather of a naval family with a Scottish surname, a name he does not give in the book.

"I was told that there was a misspelling in the middle name shared by the grandfather, father and son," he wrote, "so I spent the next 16 weeks under top-secret orders going through boxes and boxes of files shipped to me from Washington and changing all the medical and service records to correct the name of these three males from 'John Sydney' to 'John Sidney.' I was bored to tears. Why would anybody care about something so silly?"

Why indeed? If the child in question was John S. McCain III, which seems likely, why would the descendents of Scottish King Robert Bruce not want the family to be associated in the public mind with the great harbor on the southeastern coast of Australia? Why the apparent cover up?

The Australian Connection

Beyond guesswork, we have ample evidence that the adult John Sydney McCain feels a deep connection to the land down under.

"John McCain is seen as a great friend of Australia," an Australian government official told the Australian Associated Press (AAP) in a January 2008 story that ran in the Sydney Morning Herald (http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/mccains-win-welcomed-in-australia/2008/01/11/1199988538664.html). The source asked not to be named because of the "sensitivity" of commenting about the hotly contested US political race.

"McCain is openly fond of Australia," reported the Herald (http://www.smh.com.au/news/us-election/mccains-win-welcomed-in-australia/2008/01/11/1199988538664.html) in that same news story. "He was courted by former Australian prime minister John Howard and, according to the government sources, has a cordial relationship with new Prime Minister Kevin Rudd."

Hints about the extent of the relationship were revealed when Sen. John Sydney McCain met with Prime Minister Rudd at a media conference in Boston last April. "John McCain has given the thumbs up to Australia's push for closer regional co-operation in the Asia Pacific," reported Radio Australia (http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/programguide/stories/200806/s2273602.htm), which noted that McCain's naval officer father, John S. "Jack" McCain, Jr., "spent a lot of time in Perth during World War Two."

McCain's family ties to Australia actually go back to the early 20th century. The Republican candidate's grandfather, John S. "Slew" McCain Sr., visited Australia in 1908 as part of the "Great White Fleet," the 16-battleship armada sent out by President Theodore Roosevelt to cruise around the world to display American sea power. Perhaps this explains why Teddy Roosevelt is a personal hero of presidential candidate John Sydney McCain.

Do you need even more evidence of a generational plot between Australia's government and the McCain clan to shape world affairs behind the scenes?

According to a document obtained from the Australian Government Department of Defence (http://www.minister.defence.gov.au/Fitzgibbontpl.cfm?CurrentId=8086), Australia was visited August 20, 2008, by the USS John S. McCain, an Arleigh Burke Class Destroyer named after the father and grandfather of the Republican presidential candidate. Ostensibly sent there to commemorate the centenary for the Great White Fleet, the USS John S. McCain docked at Sydney, Melbourne, and Albany. Was maritime history the only purpose of the visit?

Undisputable True Facts

And this is only be beginning of the basis for completely justifiable suspicions about the alleged unAmerican loyalties of John Sydney McCain. Consider these undisputably true facts:

* John Sydney McCain, according to Mywildspeculations.com, has covertly arranged for Melbourne Cup Day in Australia to be held the same day as the U.S. election on Tuesday, November 4.

* John Sydney McCain was recently spotted at a private fundraiser in Texas eating giant shrimps grilled on the barby by a former executive assitant understudy flunky sous chef at the Outback Steak House.

* John Sydney McCain was overheard in the Senate cloak room (moments before the Wall Street bailout vote) saying that he thinks Koala bears are cute.

* John Sydney McCain allegedly wrote the now infamous "secret" email to major GOP financial backers (days after the Republican National Convention) urging supporters to help him "tie me kangaroo down, sport."

* John Sydney McCain is a known associate of the fith cousin twice removed of the terrorist Djoguayers Djagiwalilala, accused in the 1860s of planting a proto-digital pipe bomb inside the didgeridoo given as a lethal gift to the Australian deputy prime minister for aboriginal affairs. (Some consider Djagiwalilala as a hero for his amazing ability to predict the weather from underground.)

* John Sydney McCain's campaign has hurled unfounded personal attacks at Democratic presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama that have had a dangerous boomerang effect.

Foreign Threat

As if all this was not bad enough, we need to delve deeper into the staggering foreign threat posed to the American way of life by John Sydney McCain.

Anyone who has ever been to Australia knows the Australians themselves often refer to their continent as "Oz." However, my investigators in Canberra have uncovered the lowdown until now know only to a few people in high places.

Australia actually is called "Oz" because 144 kilometers north of Perth is one of only two spots on earth (the other is in Kansas) were one can ride a tornado over the rainbow to the Land of Oz. Unconfirmed reports prove without question and beyond doubt that the candidate's father, John Jr., took this trip during World War II to form a clandestine alliance with the Wizard of Oz.

According to my totally reliable sources, John Sydney McCain's father carried with him on that journey to the Emerald City a top-secret military intelligence dossier that he personally handed to the Wizard. More than 15 Munchkinlanders died trying to smuggle out a photograph of this private meeting, I've been told, but the photo tragically was destroyed by the Tik-Tok mechanical man.

Consequently, all we know for certain is that soon after Jack McCain returned from Oz, the Wizard dispatched a top operative code-named Dorothy to lead a mercenary death squad disguised as a lion, a scarecrow and a tin woodsman. The elite squad subsequently obtained for the Wizard a vital security alliance with the Winkies by assassinating the Wicked Witch of the West.

If you still have doubts, brace yourself for the final devastating revelation:

Consider that John Sydney McCain is the senator from Arizona. Hidden in the center of the word "Arizona" are the letters "z" and "o" -- an anagram for "Oz." This absolutely prooves McCain is an agent for the Land of Oz.

So, now the truth has been exposed, at last.

We can only guess at what sinister spell the Australian-Oz-McCain cabal would cast upon America if enough gullable citizens are bamboozled into voting for John Sydney McCain III as the next president of the United States. Will the Emerald City rule the White House? You have been warned, my pretty.

© 2008 by Judah Freed (http://www.examiner.com/x-775-Political-Issues-Examiner~y2008m10d10-John-Sydney-McCain-exposed-as-a-secret-agent-for-Australia)

Suuure. :p

Well, people accept the reasoning "The Bible says the Bible is true", so I get to apply it as well.

Well, people accept the reasoning "The Bible says the Bible is true", so I get to apply it as well.

No, the silly redneck Americans say the Bible is true.

No, the silly redneck Americans say the Bible is true.

And I, the megalomaniac Brazilian, say I am God in order to make a point. :p

And I, the megalomaniac Brazilian, say I am God in order to make a point. :p

Go back to the beach, beachboy!

*SNIP*


Oh dear gods!!!! It's so obvious now it's been clearly explained!!!! Yet another reason why Obama must win!!!!

Go back to the beach, beachboy!

I live in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais state, a capital at the center of a big, landlocked state. Do you think Brazil is but one big stretch of seaside? :p

I live in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais state, a capital at the center of a big, landlocked state. Do you think Brazil is but one big stretch of seaside? :p

You're like 300 km from the ocean.

Ok, bolded first. See, if you really know nothing about him, youve been living in a fucking cave for the past year. Hes been all over the media and has two books.

If you really want to correct your terrifying ignorance (and I suspect you dont) read up jr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

Now to your main "claim". If Obama was the anti-Christ, all you Christian wing-nuts would love him. In fact, everyone is supposed to love him. Thats whats supposidly so scary about the anti-Christ. No one knows who he is. If you think someone is the anti-Christ, hes not.

You fail. GTFO. Nicely done. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Both McCain and Obama are corporate stooge fascists. They both voted to bail out the bankers and screw the people with more debt and inflation. Furthermore, "Mr. Change" got more Wall Street money than McCain the Traitor of 'Nam.

Obama will spend so much money in his campaign as soon as he stops the economy will collapse.

I live in Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais state, a capital at the center of a big, landlocked state. Do you think Brazil is but one big stretch of seaside? :p

Yes, it's perpetually sunny as well, all the men have 8 packs and all the women are stunning. Then there's Amazon Brazil, where monkeys and Indians and scary chainsaw men live.

What miracles have you performed recently?

He was once involved in the Miracle of Birth.

What miracles have you performed recently?I can turn wine into water!

I can turn wine into water!

I can turn water into funk!

See, I havent heard Obama call for the elimination of private property.


But, you know, that darn reality...
Son, you need to figure out when you don't know what's going on...

When Obama opined that the USSC was poorly equipped to dispense economic justice, he certainly made it clear who owned our property, in the form of wages... Further when he declared that he would raise taxes -- not because the government needed money, but because fairness demanded it, he confirmed his belief in the redistribution of wealth as a government responsibility. But he finally underlined it when he told Joe that spreading the wealth was good for everyone. There it is in words even you can understand... Our property (wealth) is the governments. The government is supposed to distribute it properly. That, one could claim, is a tenet of socialism.

Now, McCain is just not as obvious. You have to look at his votes on the matter.

Son, you need to figure out when you don't know what's going on...

When Obama opined that the USSC was poorly equipped to dispense economic justice, he certainly made it clear who owned our property, in the form of wages... Further when he declared that he would raise taxes -- not because the government needed money, but because fairness demanded it, he confirmed his belief in the redistribution of wealth as a government responsibility. But he finally underlined it when he told Joe that spreading the wealth was good for everyone. There it is in words even you can understand... Our property (wealth) is the governments. The government is supposed to distribute it properly. That, one could claim, is a tenet of socialism.

Now, McCain is just not as obvious. You have to look at his votes on the matter.

'Wealth' is currency, and it IS the government's...

I just don't know what to believe anymore.

I mean, I read somewhere that Obama fathered two black children on a married woman....

I can turn wine into water!

I take it your after the prophet job?

You're like 300 km from the ocean.

Actually, more.

That, one could claim, is a tenet of socialism.

So is "All men are created equal", and yet America is not socialist, Myrmi. I KNOW you can argue better than that; for your sake and our entertainment, do!

I can turn water into funk!

I can turn funk into boredom

I just don't know what to believe anymore.

I mean, I read somewhere that Obama fathered two black children on a married woman....

It's actually been confirmed. :eek2:

I just don't understand why the republicans haven't added it to their smear campaign though.
:tongue:

Son, you need to figure out when you don't know what's going on...




I seem to know whats going on far better than you do, on a fairly regular basis.


So if Im clueless, what does that make you?

It's actually been confirmed. :eek2:

I just don't understand why the republicans haven't added it to their smear campaign though.
:tongue:

Well, thats obvious. Because it's true. :)

I can turn wine into water!

I can turn wine into relaxed inhibitions and a sense of well-being.

The vast majority of people are supposed to like the anti-Christ (and most people hate Palin) and its supposed to be someone no one supsects.


It was pobably Regan.

Former Treasury Secretary Donald Regan was the Anti-Christ?:eek:

Obama's a Monarchist! He wants to be a leader and he believes in a god! And he wants his daughters to have the opportunity to be the leaders too!

So, any suggestions?

Say what?

How do you make that as Monarchist?

Maybe if you said he had some blue blood in him then yeah but...

Screw it don't answer I see where your going with this

*Take notes don't try to interpret sarcasm after having a long lunch down at the pup*

Lemme play, Lemme Play.

Obama is a patriot because he wants to keep jobs in America with his protectionist stance.

McCain is anti American because he wants to continue moving jobs off shore.

Obama is a corrupt politician, let me list the reasons,

He's from Chicago (need I say more)
His some of his first ever campaigne donations, came from Tony Rezko, convicted of fraud and bribery relating to political corruption.
He's an Illinois Democrat, just for fun, let's take a look at some of his colleagues,
Rod R. Blagojevich, Illinois Governor, with a 13% approval rating, the lowest in state history, currently under investigation by the FBI. Blissfully ignorant of his current situation, by saying that the 13% approval rating is because of the Failing economy and not him and the way he has done his job.
Mayor Richard M. Daily, Chicago Mayor, part of the Daily Dynasty. Has been mayor of Chicago for 19 years, only a few years shorter of his fathers run, of 21 years, that only ended because he died.
He's an Illinois Democrat, this one should be enough proof on it's own that he can't be trusted.

And finally, the most important, Obama is an Illinois Democrat, and the only way he could have reached the position he currently holds, is to grease the wheels of corruption, as they say in Chicago, "vote early, vote often." I rest my case.

Obama is a corrupt politician, let me list the reasons...

He's an elected politician.
+ He's in the USA.
= He's corrupt.

Obama is a corrupt politician, let me list the reasons,

He's from Chicago (need I say more)
His some of his first ever campaigne donations, came from Tony Rezko, convicted of fraud and bribery relating to political corruption.
He's an Illinois Democrat, just for fun, let's take a look at some of his colleagues,
Rod R. Blagojevich, Illinois Governor, with a 13% approval rating, the lowest in state history, currently under investigation by the FBI. Blissfully ignorant of his current situation, by saying that the 13% approval rating is because of the Failing economy and not him and the way he has done his job.
Mayor Richard M. Daily, Chicago Mayor, part of the Daily Dynasty. Has been mayor of Chicago for 19 years, only a few years shorter of his fathers run, of 21 years, that only ended because he died.
He's an Illinois Democrat, this one should be enough proof on it's own that he can't be trusted.

And finally, the most important, Obama is an Illinois Democrat, and the only way he could have reached the position he currently holds, is to grease the wheels of corruption, as they say in Chicago, "vote early, vote often." I rest my case.

As opposed to IL Republicans, who have given my state such great, upstanding governors like George fucking Ryan, who arent corrup at all.


Get real.

I just don't know what to believe anymore.

I mean, I read somewhere that Obama fathered two black children on a married woman....

Well, a wife of a person is generally married with that person, isn't she? :P

Well, a wife of a person is generally married with that person, isn't she? :P

Bless. I see at least one's person sarcasm filter was set to zero overnight.


Anyway, I conclusively proved in another thread John McCain's close personal links with anti-American communist torturers (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=14073472&postcount=374).

I can turn funk into boredom

That's unpossible! None may corrupt our Lord and Savior George Clinton's gift to Humanity like that!

Obama is the Anti-Christ because he is of unknown middle-eastern decent, he wishes to withdrawal all US forces and negotiate with terrorist governments, will bring down the Empire from within, has received financial campaign contributions from Palestine, draws record global support from a speech in Berlin as nothing more than a canidate, and is on the brink of being President based soley on his Charismatic influence, regardless of the fact that we truly know NOTHING about him!

Oh wait... I was supposed to make a joke...

References: Bible - Book of Revelations

REVELATION! You ignorant! Not Revelations!
It's your holy book and you cannot even quote the title of the last chapter right!
Go and read it instead of repeating blaspheme nonsense and lies! You might learn something, maybe this:

Exodus 20:16: Thou shalt not bear false witness.
Exodus 23:1: Thou shalt not raise a false report.
Exodus 23:7: Keep thee far from a false matter

[/end :soap:]

REVELATION! You ignorant! Not Revelations!
<snip>

Please allow this Orthodox (Moscow Patriarchate) churchgoer to roundly disown Velka Morava as what we might colloquially refer to as a 'nutter'.

I think that's something that most people on NSG can safely agree on, whatever their religious persuasion or lack thereof.

Obama is a corrupt politician, let me list the reasons,

He's from Chicago (need I say more)
His some of his first ever campaigne donations, came from Tony Rezko, convicted of fraud and bribery relating to political corruption.
He's an Illinois Democrat, just for fun, let's take a look at some of his colleagues,
Rod R. Blagojevich, Illinois Governor, with a 13% approval rating, the lowest in state history, currently under investigation by the FBI. Blissfully ignorant of his current situation, by saying that the 13% approval rating is because of the Failing economy and not him and the way he has done his job.
Mayor Richard M. Daily, Chicago Mayor, part of the Daily Dynasty. Has been mayor of Chicago for 19 years, only a few years shorter of his fathers run, of 21 years, that only ended because he died.
He's an Illinois Democrat, this one should be enough proof on it's own that he can't be trusted.

And finally, the most important, Obama is an Illinois Democrat, and the only way he could have reached the position he currently holds, is to grease the wheels of corruption, as they say in Chicago, "vote early, vote often." I rest my case.

Regardless of the (not real) truth or (blatant) falsehood of these statements:

...and you'll spend four to eight years of your life with him as your leader. Ain't that swell?

McCain is a without dought a liberal conservative! I hate his immigration policies and his health plan does not work. Obama is a social democrat and that is why i am supporting him, his policies work!

I can turn water into funk!

Aquaboogie FTW!!!

'Wealth' is currency, and it IS the government's...
How wrong you are... My time was spent in obtaining that wealth. It's mine.

So is "All men are created equal", and yet America is not socialist, Myrmi. I KNOW you can argue better than that; for your sake and our entertainment, do!
You are mixing government and economics, which I believe was the mistake in the OP. Socialism is not a system of government and ensuring equality under the law is not the same as ensuring equal distribution of wealth.

If you're going to keep up, you need to understand the subtleties.

You are mixing government and economics, which I believe was the mistake in the OP. Socialism is not a system of government and ensuring equality under the law is not the same as ensuring equal distribution of wealth.

If you're going to keep up, you need to understand the subtleties.

And yet one of the principles of Socialism is the same as one of the principles of your government system. Regardless, at this point you seem to be claiming that a Socialist democracy is possible, seeing as economic and political systems are "different".

Given that you're voting for McCain, who you also defined as "Socialist", I have to ask, in order to update my dear friend Joe's list:

Are you a socialist?

'Wealth' is currency, and it IS the government's...

Wealth is property, and property is the physical representation of time and labor. Wealth is not created by legislation, and the Federal Reserve Note is a very poor representation of wealth what with the inflation and lack of physical backing.

If your wealth belongs to the government, that means that your time and labor belong to the government. That means you are a slave. I will not be a slave. That is why I will not vote for either Obama or McCain - at some level they both believe that the government owns and controls the people when it ought to be precisely the other way around.

McCain and Obama are BOTH TRYANTS! Gasp! Seriously, when'll you people learn that they are?

Also, down with America's corporately owned and controlled gov't. BOB BARR 08!!!!

As opposed to IL Republicans, who have given my state such great, upstanding governors like George fucking Ryan, who arent corrup at all.


Get real.

Okay, it should say, he's an Illinois Politician, therefor he is corrupt. Can you name the last Illinois Governor who didn't end up in jail? And really can you say that Rod R. Blagojevich is any better than George Ryan? Other than open road tolling, which is great, what has he done for the state that has made it any better?

Haha, people honestly think it matters who gets elected?

How wrong you are... My time was spent in obtaining that wealth. It's mine.

How wrong you are. If your employer, or wherever you get your money - were paying you in pigs, perhaps - but I very much doubt that you accrued whatever funds you may have through barter.

Instead, you almost certainly used the legal tender, or a digital transfer of it - which is a mechanism of promisary notes generated by, and guaranteed by, the government.

It's their money. They let you use it.

Wealth is property, and property is the physical representation of time and labor. Wealth is not created by legislation, and the Federal Reserve Note is a very poor representation of wealth what with the inflation and lack of physical backing.

If your wealth belongs to the government, that means that your time and labor belong to the government. That means you are a slave. I will not be a slave. That is why I will not vote for either Obama or McCain - at some level they both believe that the government owns and controls the people when it ought to be precisely the other way around.

The federal reserve note is an indicator. It shows a link to an index which the government does own. When you buy and sell with your federal money, you are trading assurances that the bearer has ability to command a certain value in gold wealth - which YOU don't own.

Wealth is not property - although it can be expressed in property values. Property is not the physical representation of time and labour - although it can be expressed in those values. Wealth is a link to an index - one currently owned by our government. And if you honestly believe that voting for a third party will change THAT, then you should probably abstain from voting.

Your wealth belongs to the government, but that doesn't make you a slave. Being OWNED makes you a slave, and your appeal to emotion is ridiculous, and insulting. There are still people in this world who really ARE slaves, and you pretending that 'having to use a recognised currency' makes you one of them? It's a joke, and not a very funny one.

Okay, it should say, he's an Illinois Politician, therefor he is corrupt. Can you name the last Illinois Governor who didn't end up in jail? And really can you say that Rod R. Blagojevich is any better than George Ryan? Other than open road tolling, which is great, what has he done for the state that has made it any better?

Its more like what he hasnt done. Like handing out drivers liscense for bribes that get people killed.


George Ryan is an abomination.

And your arguement that IL politician = corrupt is absurd. There are plenty of IL politicians who ARENT in jail. Tell me, did you thin Denny Hastert was corrupt? I just want to see if you think the right wing in IL is innocent.

Its more like what he hasnt done. Like handing out drivers liscense for bribes that get people killed.


George Ryan is an abomination.

And your arguement that IL politician = corrupt is absurd. There are plenty of IL politicians who ARENT in jail. Tell me, did you thin Denny Hastert was corrupt? I just want to see if you think the right wing in IL is innocent.

First of all, this is a joke thread, I don't know if you happened to notice that. It was meant as a joke. Second, I don't believe that George Ryan was left wing.

And yet one of the principles of Socialism is the same as one of the principles of your government system. Regardless, at this point you seem to be claiming that a Socialist democracy is possible, seeing as economic and political systems are "different".

Given that you're voting for McCain, who you also defined as "Socialist", I have to ask, in order to update my dear friend Joe's list:

Are you a socialist?
Where was it "given" that I was voting for McCain? Get your facts straight. In fact, I did allude to a choice, as well as an indirect effect in a post to you not long ago?

Socialist democracies exist. Fact.